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If I start paying attention to them that's all I hear so I've to turn it off. I'm not sure what they were thinking!

It's funny you should mention that, as in the past I've tried filtering the sounds on my equalizer to seek hidden messages. All I've deciphered thus far is someone being offered a champagne drink, and what suspiciously sounds like 'lose you p!ssers!' in a lispy female voice. Strange.
 
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Well I did nearly 2000 spins on BDBA last night at 27p per spin, and my balance ended up about £6 less than where it had started, so clearly BDBA can have those 'steady' sessions like DoA too :)

My balance was down quite a bit at one point but it kicked out a 175x bonus round to get me back in the game. No really big wins though, but no horrible dead patches either.

And you know, I'd never noticed the whispering voices until Balth pointed them out, so yeah, thanks for that :D
 
Well I did nearly 2000 spins on BDBA last night at 27p per spin, and my balance ended up about £6 less than where it had started, so clearly BDBA can have those 'steady' sessions like DoA too :)

My balance was down quite a bit at one point but it kicked out a 175x bonus round to get me back in the game. No really big wins though, but no horrible dead patches either.

And you know, I'd never noticed the whispering voices until Balth pointed them out, so yeah, thanks for that :D

Good for the league tables then......

As for the noises, when I play a I have a pair of Bluetooth headphones on which mean much better sound definition than crappy laptop speakers. I have often concentrated on the sinister whispering and casino sounds, and indeed did try and decipher them with a mutli-freq equalizer programme I have. She is almost certainly posting subliminal messages, and 'lose, you pissers' is there - listen out for it.
 
Its so difficult to hit any on the picture symbols in the Free Spins on BDBA. I used to play it quite often and have a dabble every now and again. I've only managed the gold coins and the notes (3 times) on the Slot during all the time I have played it.

One of my biggest hits still remains the sapphires in the base game.

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I have a notes hit in the base game for about 11k somewhere....

Recently in 10's of thousands of spins I have hit the Sapphires last about 6 months ago on a $2.25 Bet. Since then it has been the Gold Bars making an appearance in the base game a few times.

DOA for me (and maybe because I play it more) has always chucked me a 1000x + bet somewhere along the line. Ofcourse the variance is much more insane and I don't think i will attempt to try it on a $9 stake. I have been as far up as 7.20 Euro and saw my ass :D - I am much more 'scared' to play DOA on bigger bets, but I'll waste my money on CFTBL or friggin Reel Rush at bets of 3 Euro and more. Sometimes my own logic defies me.

Nate
 
Strange session for me on DOA took 1150 spins to see a bonus round . Seen another 3 by the time I finished play at 1700 spins but not any decent wins or close to 5 extra spins or 5 wilds.But after 1700 spins and a lack of bonuses it would be fair to think I had lost a good bit of cash, but no.

Start Balance- £30
End Balance - £22
Bet size 0.18
Peak balance- £46
Lowest Balance- £12
5 Sheriff badges (£20) -3 times
5 guns(£15)-5 times
5 Hats (£8)-8 times

I got the high paying symbols a lot,5 sheriff badges are rare, but unfortunately I only ever got them when my balance was low.It felt like a totally different slot tonight compared to the high variance monster that gave me a mauling at the weekend. One thing has remained constant every time I have played it in the past week at some point I have went 600+ spins without a bonus. So I have decide to give it no more than 300 spins just for a bit of interest every now and then to try my luck. No point trying to chase 5 wilds/scatters, it may never happen and the base game is monotonous to look at anyway.
 
Here is my final DoA stats update:

I still play DoA, i just wont be logging the results of the free spins anymore, it's just too tedious doing it manually,
besides kktmd have logged millions of spins and posted his results so there really is no point in me doing this anymore :)



Dead or Alive: 5150 features

5 extra spins: 117 times
5 wilds on a line: 29 times
5 scatters: 3 times


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Wins over 1000xBet: (all bet and win amounts are in NOK, 8.4NOK= 1€)

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Here is the spreadsheet: View attachment DoA Real Play.xls
 
When I see your statistics I realize how lucky I was to have already hit 3800X bet recently, although altogether I have played no more than I guess 50-60 features. My second biggest win was about 900X bet...
 
Ty for the statistics!

Do you know your overall profit/loss? If so you wish to share? :)

I do keep records of my total profits/losses at casinos, unfortunately this is the total of all my gambling, and not just DoA. So i don't know how much i am up on DoA alone.
I know that the numbers for redbet and 32red is not my lifetime stats, as i was unable to get them when i started keeping records, so my total profits might be somewhat lower. The rest of the numbers should be correct.


Left hand side numbers in NOK, right hand side in € to make it easier to see.
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I still can't get past 200-300 ish x bet...
Tonight a session on Guts and I played the slot for quite some time...
One feature it lined up 4 wild perfectly on reels 1,2,3,5 and had 6 spins left for the 5th wild to land,it just does not drop for me...Every time I get in this particular situation in FS mode I am thinking,this is the one!!!
I don't lose a lot on this slot either as it always gives me a lot of playtime on €0.45 and €0.54 bets but I just cannot crack the sucker...
2 x 4 scatters seen tonight as well with 1 trigger where first 4 scatters landed and I always get so excited then hoping to see that 5th lol...

I defo want to join the DOA club,but when?????????
Maybe in the year 2025? :rolleyes:;)
 
Am I wasting time?

My bet is always 4.50-9 canadian dollars?

Am I like wasting my time? Free spins, paid 0 2/5 times.

I never get free spins. Only once it paid 600 or so.

I find thisnyear to be an awful payer.

Is it because I am wagering over 4.50 per spin?
 
Yup, I'd say that's pretty much it Johnny. Some of the favourites you talk about are low or medium variance, DOA is definitely high, although there seem to be enough smaller wins in base game to keep you ticking for a bit, not dozens of dead spins in a row.

Quite recently a member won just short of a grand on 18 cents (or whatever currency).

I am not a member of the DOA club either, but I do keep trying.
 
My bet is always 4.50-9 canadian dollars?

Am I like wasting my time? Free spins, paid 0 2/5 times.

I never get free spins. Only once it paid 600 or so.

I find thisnyear to be an awful payer.

Is it because I am wagering over 4.50 per spin?

The slot doesn't act differently because you bet more. The thing is, unless you've got over 1M dollars in your bank account and make extremely large deposits then it's probably because of that. You bet high, which means that you lose faster.

This is a slot where you have to sacrifice bet size for more spins. In other words, keep your bets under $1 and you'll get more spins (so more bonus rounds) for your money. More bonus rounds = a better chance to get a good one.
 
Yup, I'd say that's pretty much it Johnny. Some of the favourites you talk about are low or medium variance, DOA is definitely high, although there seem to be enough smaller wins in base game to keep you ticking for a bit, not dozens of dead spins in a row.

Quite recently a member won just short of a grand on 18 cents (or whatever currency).

I am not a member of the DOA club either, but I do keep trying.

My brother won over £1100 on 18p spins recently. It was something like 6200 x bet, jammy git :mad:
Best I've done is £1850 on 45p spins which, although is more money, he and I challenge each other on the x bet factor and he's way ahead.

A quick calculation shows his was 6227 x bet, £1120 :eek:
 
Hey guys,

I just asked for my stats of this slot on Guts.
So thank you very much for the stats Ben,much appreciated for your swift response as always.
I do realise maybe just over 10k spins is not much for this slot but looking at the stats and the stats Blathaon posted I should be getting something bigger then 200x stake in a bonusround?
That is the biggest win I had on Guts in all these spins on all bonus rounds.

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I play this slot on other casino's too so multiply 10k spins with maybe a factor 6 which makes 60k spins and in all those spins my record win is still only a 400-450x stake win on Redbet on my first ever bonus on this game long time ago.

So compared to others I find my stats very poor on this slot...

DOA DOA DOA why are you doing this to me!!!!! :-) ^^
 
Hey guys,

I just asked for my stats of this slot on Guts.
So thank you very much for the stats Ben,much appreciated for your swift response as always.
I do realise maybe just over 10k spins is not much for this slot but looking at the stats and the stats Blathaon posted I should be getting something bigger then 200x stake in a bonusround?
That is the biggest win I had on Guts in all these spins on all bonus rounds.

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I play this slot on other casino's too so multiply 10k spins with maybe a factor 6 which makes 60k spins and in all those spins my record win is still only a 400-450x stake win on Redbet on my first ever bonus on this game long time ago.

So compared to others I find my stats very poor on this slot...

DOA DOA DOA why are you doing this to me!!!!! :-) ^^


I would say that you have been somewhat unlucky, but looking at my stats for 1628 unsorted features i have had runs just as bad. First 10K spins is just around 67 features and 200x max for that number of features is quite normal, i have had loads of runs like that.

If we take the total of 60K spins which would be around 400 features then we are talking about a bad run of luck but it can and do happen, amongst the 1628 unsorted features in my spreadsheet it happened twice!

According to kktmd's DOA data (17590 features) you can expect a 1000x+ win every 195 features on average. My average for the 5150 features that i logged the results for is a 1000x+ win every 143 features.

I'm not sure why i never uploaded the unsorted data as it is part of my original run of 5150 features, had i thought about it from the beginning i should have kept two spreadsheets one sorted and one unsorted but i didn't think about that until later so that's why i only have 1628 unsorted features.

Unsorted DOA features:View attachment DOA unsorted stats.xls
 
I had a run of hitting wildline(s) once a week for a while. Maybe around every 100th feature or so. Then culuminating in a 10000x stake win, but since then i must have had 200+ features without a wildline. But several wins in the 500x bet range(4 wilds on a line) I have never hit 5 scatters tough and im not sure but i must have had close to if not over 1000 features.

I have started playing this slot exclusivly. Been dabbeling in some MG games latley resulting in over 1000 euros in losses. Maybe its better to play DOA exclusivley. Since all things concidered im waaaaay up on this slot in terms of wins vs losses. Even if i deduct my 10000x stake win im still up on DOA.

Some days i hate this slot, but it seams if winning and not entertainment is the goal this is THE HV slot to play, seams to hit waaaay more often than other HV slots. Iv prolly done more spins on IR and never hit 1000x or above. But on DOA hit 1000x+ over 10 times and ive only been playing this slot the last 5-6 months.

Also if i deposited 100 euros and bet 0.45 almost every session i get to see close to 10 or above 10 features. Not many slots are this generous with features!

Think ive made up my mind only DOA from now on!
 
I had a run of hitting wildline(s) once a week for a while. Maybe around every 100th feature or so. Then culuminating in a 10000x stake win, but since then i must have had 200+ features without a wildline. But several wins in the 500x bet range(4 wilds on a line) I have never hit 5 scatters tough and im not sure but i must have had close to if not over 1000 features.

I have started playing this slot exclusivly. Been dabbeling in some MG games latley resulting in over 1000 euros in losses. Maybe its better to play DOA exclusivley. Since all things concidered im waaaaay up on this slot in terms of wins vs losses. Even if i deduct my 10000x stake win im still up on DOA.

Some days i hate this slot, but it seams if winning and not entertainment is the goal this is THE HV slot to play, seams to hit waaaay more often than other HV slots. Iv prolly done more spins on IR and never hit 1000x or above. But on DOA hit 1000x+ over 10 times and ive only been playing this slot the last 5-6 months.

Also if i deposited 100 euros and bet 0.45 almost every session i get to see close to 10 or above 10 features. Not many slots are this generous with features!

Think ive made up my mind only DOA from now on!

I would just like to once again congratulate you on your freaking unbelieveable DOA win :notworthy:notworthy

The odds of hitting 5 scatters on DOA is around 1 in 150 000 spins.

That's the thing it doesn't just "seem" that way it IS that way, you are around NINE times more likely to hit a 1000x+ win on DOA compared to IR. The odds of a 1000x+ win on DOA is around 1 in 30 000 spins, and on IR it is around 1 in 272 000 spins.

Links to kktmd's posts with the numbers:DOA - IR

I have yet to hit a 1000x+ win on IR and i doubt i ever will, my best was 877x on a 4 reel wild desire(the worst possible 4 reel wild desire result :p)

BTW the odds of getting a 4 reel wild desire is about the same as the odds of getting 5 scatters on DOA (1 in 150 000 spins). A 4 reel wild desire will pay anywhere from 877x to 3510x, but 5 scatters on DOA always pay 2500x.
 
I would just like to once again congratulate you on your freaking unbelieveable DOA win :notworthy:notworthy

The odds of hitting 5 scatters on DOA is around 1 in 150 000 spins.

That's the thing it doesn't just "seem" that way it IS that way, you are around NINE times more likely to hit a 1000x+ win on DOA compared to IR. The odds of a 1000x+ win on DOA is around 1 in 30 000 spins, and on IR it is around 1 in 272 000 spins.

Links to kktmd's posts with the numbers:DOA - IR

I have yet to hit a 1000x+ win on IR and i doubt i ever will, my best was 877x on a 4 reel wild desire(the worst possible 4 reel wild desire result :p)

BTW the odds of getting a 4 reel wild desire is about the same as the odds of getting 5 scatters on DOA (1 in 150 000 spins). A four reel wild desire will pay anywhere from 877x to 3510x, but 5 scatters on DOA always pay 2500x.

Thanks, that win was insaaaane, i even forgot i had the 5 extra spins in the joy of winning what i tought was 50 000 ish NOK haha.. Should have seen the look on my face when i realized i had 5 more spins to go :lolup:

So from these stats it seams DOA is THE best slot to play if you are looking for a proffit? This may explain why i find MG slots to be so damn tight all the time.. Basicly its very hard to hit on DOA but still it happens regularly. And even on a losing session i find i get alot of playtime for my money. While MG slots may eat up 100 on 0.30-0.60 bets in litterally 10 min if you are unlucky.

My guess is that these odds also apply to the newer 243 ways slots? Think these numbers are the nail in the coffin for me. Im done playing MG! There is really no point if the odds are this much better on DOA.
 
This may also explain my insane bad runs on Videoslots and Betat.. Playing mostly MG slots....... I wassent even aware the odds where that bad.
Lost around 1000 on betat since i reopened my account according to CS mostly on JP and IR. Didd very little DOA...

If their rep can give a a deposit bonus i will do a DOA session tomorrow :cool:
 
Thanks, that win was insaaaane, i even forgot i had the 5 extra spins in the joy of winning what i tought was 50 000 ish NOK haha.. Should have seen the look on my face when i realized i had 5 more spins to go :lolup:

So from these stats it seams DOA is THE best slot to play if you are looking for a proffit? This may explain why i find MG slots to be so damn tight all the time.. Basicly its very hard to hit on DOA but still it happens regularly. And even on a losing session i find i get alot of playtime for my money. While MG slots may eat up 100 on 0.30-0.60 bets in litterally 10 min if you are unlucky.

My guess is that these odds also apply to the newer 243 ways slots? Think these numbers are the nail in the coffin for me. Im done playing MG! There is really no point if the odds are this much better on DOA.


hehe i imagine it looked something like this :D

Yes nothing compares to DOA when it comes to the frequency of big wins, of course talking about slots and profits in the same sentence really only makes sense if you are running a casino :p

I would say that DOA with reasonable bonuses (WR of 40x Bonus or less) is the way to go if you are looking for "profits" in slots. Of course as i am sure you are aware since slots have an RTP of less than 100%, play long enough and you will lose. In the short run though, say months or even years it is possible to stay ahead and be in profit.

I don't know how the win distribution differs between the different MG 243 way slots, but they are probably fairly similar.

It would be interesting to see some stats from Jurassic Park as i feel that that slot is different to the other 243 way slots.
 
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Similar to Break the Bank Again, small bets so you can make more spins to hit the rarer, larger paying wins.

I was making that exact point with regards to DoA a few days ago and had somebody cracking jokes about how the game is for 'penny players' and the like... nonsense obviously, if I'm hoping for a serious DoA session I'll try and deposit enough for at least 1000 spins.... Dropping £300 into this game then playing at £4.50 per spin is total insanity - some people just don't understand variance though.
 
This may also explain my insane bad runs on Videoslots and Betat.. Playing mostly MG slots....... I wassent even aware the odds where that bad.
Lost around 1000 on betat since i reopened my account according to CS mostly on JP and IR. Didd very little DOA...

If their rep can give a a deposit bonus i will do a DOA session tomorrow :cool:

Maybe but you have to remember that while the odds of getting the massive wins on DOA is better than any other slots, the odds of doubling or tripling your starting balance is probably better on other games and all of these slots have an RTP of 96-97%. I have had some nice wins on Jurassic Park in the past week. I would personally stay clear of IR though, it's usually a disaster whenever i play that slot.

So it depends on what you are looking for in a slot, the average slot player doesn't hammer a slot for hours on end like many CM members do, the average player is probably someone who sits down a few times a month or maybe once or twice a week and is looking for some quick fun on the slots for an hour or so, and i doubt that DOA is the first choice then :lolup:

Unfortunately DOA only counts 50% towards the WR at Betat :( so i wouldn't recommend taking a bonus there to play DOA.
 
What's the odd of hitting 4 scatter on DOA?

I don't know sorry, maybe kktmd can dig it out from his database? I'm not sure why you want to know though? since 4 scatters only pay 25x, if we just look at the pay difference between 4 and 5 scatters then i would guess that you might see 50-100 4 scatters for every 5 scatters.
 
This is what I get:
Starts off very promising and then no wild on reel 2,or even a chance for a 5 wild line.... :mad::D:cool:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!! :o

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That is still a decent win and it buys you more spins :D

That screenshot really illustrates the "problem" with DOA compared to other slots, on most slots I'm guessing you would be happy with a win like that? but since it's DOA it's all or nothing, and only a 1000x+ win will cut it(i feel the same way when playing it:o)

Expect a handful of frustrating situations like this for every one that do line up, at least they often pay a nice amount even when they don't line up.

DoA 219x.webpDoA 862x.webp
DoA 635x.webpDOA 427x.webp
 
Omg that is some harsh screenshots... :D
Well my session isn't bad tonight...
About 1000 spins and had a few 50-150x bet bonusses,so from €100.00 now nearly up to €300.00...
Tempted to cash out and try again later on this week... :rolleyes:
 
Omg that is some harsh screenshots... :D
Well my session isn't bad tonight...
About 1000 spins and had a few 50-150x bet bonusses,so from €100.00 now nearly up to €300.00...
Tempted to cash out and try again later on this week... :rolleyes:

:D plenty more where they came from :p

DOA so close....webp

Nice that's not bad at all :thumbsup:. It's always hard to know when to cash out, feels good when you stay and win and not so good when you stay and lose :rolleyes:
 
9 times more likely? Im 486 bonus rounds in with no wild line ever and got my 5 scatter at round 223.

Thats how messed up the variance is on this.

I would just like to once again congratulate you on your freaking unbelieveable DOA win :notworthy:notworthy

The odds of hitting 5 scatters on DOA is around 1 in 150 000 spins.

That's the thing it doesn't just "seem" that way it IS that way, you are around NINE times more likely to hit a 1000x+ win on DOA compared to IR. The odds of a 1000x+ win on DOA is around 1 in 30 000 spins, and on IR it is around 1 in 272 000 spins.

Links to kktmd's posts with the numbers:DOA - IR

I have yet to hit a 1000x+ win on IR and i doubt i ever will, my best was 877x on a 4 reel wild desire(the worst possible 4 reel wild desire result :p)

BTW the odds of getting a 4 reel wild desire is about the same as the odds of getting 5 scatters on DOA (1 in 150 000 spins). A 4 reel wild desire will pay anywhere from 877x to 3510x, but 5 scatters on DOA always pay 2500x.
 
I don't know sorry, maybe kktmd can dig it out from his database? I'm not sure why you want to know though? since 4 scatters only pay 25x, if we just look at the pay difference between 4 and 5 scatters then i would guess that you might see 50-100 4 scatters for every 5 scatters.
I'm interested because it happened me only twice and in the same casino where i've completed the same pt, bet 0.09 (heypoker) and i'd like to know if i had been lucky or not (i don't play often even if sometimes i'm tempted to play more reading this kind of topics).
 
It must be said that i am well in profit on DoA, so i assume that the real chances are lower. And i know that one time it took 300 features to get a 1000x+win. and two days in the past week i had two mega wins on the same day with only around 50 features between them.

So in the end it is totally random, glad you found the data to be interesting :).

If i had thought about it before, i should have kept two spreadsheets, one unsorted and one sorted so that i could have seen the distribution of the wins. Too late now though.


I dont know for a fact that it is 1 in 150. last time i posted stats from free play i said that i thought it might be somewhere in the region of 1 in 150-200. and then someone else said that it was 1 in 151. So it might not be correct, but it is a fair assumption.

of course you are.. you are from Scandinavia ... i just wonder why you didnt had already 2 big million jackpots under your belt :)
 
This game was so so good to me when I first started to play it, only ever 3 wild lines but plenty of 'so closes' which amounted to plenty of low rolling profit at 0.18p and 0.27p bets

This year I cannot seem to land more than one or two wilds during the BR and can't even remember last time I left the game with even a small profit.

Beauty is you can play at 9p to get some extra play time and also to try and 'rescue' balance, that been said Imagine the amount of spins generated for minimal outlay.

I genuinely feel from a business point of view it is Netent's best ever release. For every Rolaston, Blathaon or Nate, there are 1,000 jonminchers :p
 
spins -21000 just checked with support,

extra spins = 0
wildline = 0
5 scatters = 0
4 scatters = 7

Well hopefully i will get my luck turned around soon
thats rubbish and i thought my run at casumo was crap couple of days ill post results when i hit 100 features got chewed about 70 euro on 9 cent bets biggest win about 100 to 150 times. i think its been cleaned out lol give it a couple of days after a bad run to try again :)
 
thats rubbish and i thought my run at casumo was crap couple of days ill post results when i hit 100 features got chewed about 70 euro on 9 cent bets biggest win about 100 to 150 times. i think its been cleaned out lol give it a couple of days after a bad run to try again :)

thats rough

i had 240 in whitebet, played down to 90 on 0.27 - 0.45 bets n thn to 30 on 0.54 - 0.9bets n thn to 0 on 1.35 n atlast 2 bonus rounds which paid 1x - 2x

so giving it a break for a few days

had 110 at casumo n played to 0 on 0.27-0.36 bets
 
I am also getting anialated on this slot at the moment, played last five days three casinos 50 euros each on 18p bets. Best win 400x. Extra spins once. Guts today - £25 on 9p spins. Think the feature came 3 times. Actually beginning to forget what a wild line looks like
 
ive got a bonus match 100% up to 50 at 35 im going to take up going to run it at 9c spins just to see if i can anything on a $100 start ill post how i go
 
deposited $150 got 100% match...

played all DOA at 27 cent bets


Hit 4 features highest payout was 8x bet.

Base game highest was a line of cowboy hats so whatever that paid I forget

Lost count of the spins cause I got busy on the phone but it was in the thousands as usual.

Looks like the casinos sent this game back to the software providers to really tighten it up after they advertised some big wins publicly
 
Definitely not I got five scatters AND a wildline on Saturday at Stan James - I got my last wild line there too actually.

Finished up cashing out 570 on a 20 deposit. Dont give up!!
 

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