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Talk about low to high to low,playing on auto at 60p, totally dead, got free spins eventually then
saw that somehow the stake was £4, never play as high as that..Gave 40 spins, £ signs in eyes.retriggers with 24 spins.
grand total for the feature . . . 100x.wish it was the 1500 x I got the other day.
 
Played it on V&J few days ago and to my surprise I got the free spins quite quickly,within 30 spins or so on a €1.00 bet.
Never ever had a feature so quickly on a Red Tiger game.
Got 40 FS!!!! but the result was to cry for.. 71.6x stake and no retriggers..
I had God knows how many multiways but all wins I got were cherries,oranges and some lemons..

So hmmmm...Left the game right after as I was very disappointed to get 71.6x in 40 FS..

Another big mouth (look how much you can win) slot with a gazillion ways, but no connectors on the first 3 reels even (many dead spins in FS round).

Inventive slot, but I think I will pass in the future..;)
 
Played it on V&J few days ago and to my surprise I got the free spins quite quickly,within 30 spins or so on a €1.00 bet.
Never ever had a feature so quickly on a Red Tiger game.
Got 40 FS!!!! but the result was to cry for.. 71.6x stake and no retriggers..
I had God knows how many multiways but all wins I got were cherries,oranges and some lemons..

So hmmmm...Left the game right after as I was very disappointed to get 71.6x in 40 FS..

Another big mouth (look how much you can win) slot with a gazillion ways, but no connectors on the first 3 reels even (many dead spins in FS round).

Inventive slot, but I think I will pass in the future..;)

Has potential thought definitely...Someone posted a +5400x win on Bandits website :)
 
I've played this quite a lot had around 20 bonuses but only one with a re-trigger.

Maybe I'm just unlucky,but I always get the standard 10 to 25x bet bonus win that seems to be on every Red Tiger slot, no matter how many ways, winning lines or wilds there are.
 
Played it on V&J few days ago and to my surprise I got the free spins quite quickly,within 30 spins or so on a €1.00 bet.
Never ever had a feature so quickly on a Red Tiger game.
Got 40 FS!!!! but the result was to cry for.. 71.6x stake and no retriggers..
I had God knows how many multiways but all wins I got were cherries,oranges and some lemons..

So hmmmm...Left the game right after as I was very disappointed to get 71.6x in 40 FS..

Another big mouth (look how much you can win) slot with a gazillion ways, but no connectors on the first 3 reels even (many dead spins in FS round).

Inventive slot, but I think I will pass in the future..;)

True but it's difficult to make a slot which makes money (for the casino) yet has huge potential and doesn't take 1000s of spins to trigger a bonus . Obviously 60 million ways sounds amazing but it's never going to give you wins in the same proportion as the basegame pays or it would break the casinos. The reels for the 60 million ways can't just be a continuation of the reels for the 243 ways. So yeh in a way it is gimmicky and an illusion because obviously there are 1 line slots which can pay huge . It all depends on the pays and the reels
 
Reading this thread is a bit depressing TBH. People want high volatility slots but if they don't win 1000x during their first 2 sessions the slot is shit/rigged.

Also they don't want a bonus that's difficult to get, but they don't want a bad bonus either. So bonus must come frequently, must pay great and the base game must be kind. Well, that's ridiculous.

High volatility = you have the chance to win big in exchange for a very little chance to win at all. When you lose, it's normal. If you don't like the slot because you think it's a bad design, fine. However if you don't like the slot because you didn't win you may need help.
 
One thing i dont get is why the reason to make the game up to 60 million ways if max win is 10 000x, ?

Like @ChopleyIOM mentioned earlier in the thread, we don't know if there's a hard cap at 10,000x (per spin or per bonus?) or if it's simply not possible to win more than that on a single spin due to reel configuration (eg: if all the 7's show up on the screen = 400 ways of 7's = 10,000x). If it's the latter then it's not really capped, it's just how the reels are designed and I don't have any issue with that.
 
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Reading this thread is a bit depressing TBH. People want high volatility slots but if they don't win 1000x during their first 2 sessions the slot is shit/rigged.

Also they don't want a bonus that's difficult to get, but they don't want a bad bonus either. So bonus must come frequently, must pay great and the base game must be kind. Well, that's ridiculous.

High volatility = you have the chance to win big in exchange for a very little chance to win at all. When you lose, it's normal. If you don't like the slot because you think it's a bad design, fine. However if you don't like the slot because you didn't win you may need help.

Sounds pretty judgemental. Whats the big deal if people complain about a slot treating them like shit? You may be on the wrong forum if you dont like it. Make sure not to visit the bonanza thread or you might really be outraged. And dont watch any dunover youtube videos either because you will be really stressed if you dont like anyone complaining about slots.

Insinuating someone has a problem because they complain about cold slots is hyperbole and disrespectful. I complain when someone hands be a warm beer, I like them cold. Am I an alcoholic then?
 
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Sounds pretty judgemental. Whats the big deal if people complain about a slot treating them like shit? You may be on the wrong forum if you dont like it. Make sure not to visit the bonanza thread or you might really be outraged. And dont watch any dunover youtube videos either because you will be really stressed if you dont like anyone complaining about slots.

Insinuating someone has a problem because they complain about cold slots is hyperbole and disrespectful. I complain when someone hands be a warm beer, I like them cold. Am I an alcoholic then?


When have you ever heard me complain, accuse them of being rigged or swear about them??? :p
 
Sounds pretty judgemental. Whats the big deal if people complain about a slot treating them like shit? You may be on the wrong forum if you dont like it. Make sure not to visit the bonanza thread or you might really be outraged. And dont watch any dunover youtube videos either because you will be really stressed if you dont like anyone complaining about slots.

Insinuating someone has a problem because they complain about cold slots is hyperbole and disrespectful. I complain when someone hands be a warm beer, I like them cold. Am I an alcoholic then?

I watch most of his videos actually. There's a difference between tongue-in-cheek complaint and being mad because you lose vs people who genuinely believe that something is rigged when it acts like it's supposed to. This forum is full of people and resources that can explain the mechanic of slot machines, why not use them? Saying a slot is rigged here is the online equivalent of the annoying guy in a B&M casino who hits his machine because he's losing.

PS: Yeah I refuse to read the Bonanza thread.
 
I watch most of his videos actually. There's a difference between tongue-in-cheek complaint and being mad because you lose vs people who genuinely believe that something is rigged when it acts like it's supposed to. This forum is full of people and resources that can explain the mechanic of slot machines, why not use them? Saying a slot is rigged here is the online equivalent of the annoying guy in a B&M casino who hits his machine because he's losing.

PS: Yeah I refuse to read the Bonanza thread.

I can assure you there is some not so tongue in cheek comments by many members here including dunover but it doesnt mean they have a problem. He has been visibly upset and calling the slots rigged because of it. Go watch his bad streak on trada. Whether everyone means it or not or its the heat of the moment remains the same really.

I watched a little bit of interlogs stream this morning and he was getting pissed off at some BTG slots with the feature buy and calling it scripted. I think its just how people vent when a slot isnt being so nice. Because I dont think he has a problem either.

I think there is a big difference by saying rigged slot out of frustration and hitting a slot machine. The same would be hitting your laptop or the table you are playing on or throwing something to hitting a slot machine in a B&M.

Unless Im missing it I see alot of the posters saying the slot sucks or is shit which I dont really see out of the ordinary.

And btw I agree with your post just not when you suggested people who act like that have a problem. HV can be the devil and people should expect variance and alot of bad bonuses and disappointments. So yes I can understand why the complaining would get to some people.
 
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I can assure you there is some not so tongue in cheek comments by many members here including dunover but it doesnt mean they have a problem. He has been visibly upset and calling the slots rigged because of it. Go watch his bad streak on trada. Whether everyone means it or not or its the heat of the moment remains the same really.

I watched a little bit of interlogs stream this morning and he was getting pissed off at some BTG slots with the feature buy and calling it scripted. I think its just how people vent when a slot isnt being so nice. Because I dont think he has a problem either.

I think there is a big difference by saying rigged slot out of frustration and hitting a slot machine. The same would be hitting your laptop or the table you are playing on or throwing something to hitting a slot machine in a B&M.

Unless Im missing it I see alot of the posters saying the slot sucks or is shit which I dont really see out of the ordinary.

And btw I agree with your post just not when you suggested people who act like that have a problem. HV can be the devil and people should expect variance and alot of bad bonuses and disappointments. So yes I can understand why the complaining would get to some people.

Fair enough.
 
I can assure you there is some not so tongue in cheek comments by many members here including dunover but it doesnt mean they have a problem. He has been visibly upset and calling the slots rigged because of it. Go watch his bad streak on trada. Whether everyone means it or not or its the heat of the moment remains the same really.

I watched a little bit of interlogs stream this morning and he was getting pissed off at some BTG slots with the feature buy and calling it scripted. I think its just how people vent when a slot isnt being so nice. Because I dont think he has a problem either.

I think there is a big difference by saying rigged slot out of frustration and hitting a slot machine. The same would be hitting your laptop or the table you are playing on or throwing something to hitting a slot machine in a B&M.

Unless Im missing it I see alot of the posters saying the slot sucks or is shit which I dont really see out of the ordinary.

And btw I agree with your post just not when you suggested people who act like that have a problem. HV can be the devil and people should expect variance and alot of bad bonuses and disappointments. So yes I can understand why the complaining would get to some people.

Those comments I made were indeed very genuine. It does feel at times on these feature buy slots that it is all scripted and predetermined the minute you buy that bonus. It happens most of the times. You set off with lots of mega ways on White Rabbit as an example and quelle surprise - no cup cakes to be seen. You need one more cup cake for the retrigger with quite a few spins to go - what a bleeding surprise, it suddenly doesn't hit on the reel with the 11 positions.

I only played these feature buys because I already made a nice profit of £400. So it wasn't a case of being a sore loser.
 
I don't get why people don't like this game the potential is there as I know from personal experience (see the winning screen shot I posted in the other thread) and thre graphics and design are excellent but I can also see that some bonuses are 40+ dead spins as I had last night with the first two reels going high but the rest of the reels stayed static.

It is a red tiger game if so if you play it you know how volatile it is but when it pays it can be a monster, Red Tiger should be pleased with themselves for out playing BTG and going head to head with Extra Chilli and from the Videoslots front page it is generating more plays now than Chilli and Bonanza.
 
Those comments I made were indeed very genuine. It does feel at times on these feature buy slots that it is all scripted and predetermined the minute you buy that bonus. It happens most of the times. You set off with lots of mega ways on White Rabbit as an example and quelle surprise - no cup cakes to be seen. You need one more cup cake for the retrigger with quite a few spins to go - what a bleeding surprise, it suddenly doesn't hit on the reel with the 11 positions.

I only played these feature buys because I already made a nice profit of £400. So it wasn't a case of being a sore loser.

Has BTG commented on this? I always figured their bonuses were pre determined. Especially the way white rabbit plays I see no way it isnt.
 
Those comments I made were indeed very genuine. It does feel at times on these feature buy slots that it is all scripted and predetermined the minute you buy that bonus. It happens most of the times. You set off with lots of mega ways on White Rabbit as an example and quelle surprise - no cup cakes to be seen. You need one more cup cake for the retrigger with quite a few spins to go - what a bleeding surprise, it suddenly doesn't hit on the reel with the 11 positions.

I only played these feature buys because I already made a nice profit of £400. So it wasn't a case of being a sore loser.

It's possible that they've done a massive simulation of the bonus, filled a database with the results and then when you buy the feature they just pull one out. You could go one step further and filter out all of the 'presentations' that look contrived in some way, just to improve the experience for the player. Or they could be random after all, and maybe you've just been a bit unlucky with the way the action has unfolded (hence the 'rigged' feeling), in the small sample of bonuses you've played?

There's no way the reels don't change depending on how far you've got or how many cupcakes you need I'll give you that, and I absolutely hate games that do this with a passion. I don't mind subtle differences that you might notice after a period of time, but some of the adjustments to the reels as you progress through a bonus are so severe it's ridiculous.

I played that Hartwell game a few weeks back and the Free Games bonus was atrocious; retrigger more free spins, add another upgrade to the reels such as 4x multiplier and watch those wilds and high-paying symbols suddenly fuck off from the reels for the remainder of the feature. Absolutely no need for it. If you can't afford to pay something without vastly altering the reels, don't fucking do it. VS had a promotion on their site where the person who played the most spins on that game last month won a trip to Vegas to see Hartwell play live. I don't know what is worse; having to play tens of thousands of games on a slot like that, or standing shoulder-to-shoulder in a packed club listening to his dreadful music. Maybe I'm getting old :laugh:
 
It feels like you should have a fair chance but it's not really fair because the rtp is less than 100%... even just a 4% edge with the 96% rtp means that a lot more often than not you are going to be losing . Of course we all know this but I feel like sometimes our brains are programmed to expect a 100% rtp and anything worse than that feels like we "lost" . Even though if you lost a little bit you probably had average luck since you are supposed to lose a little . And if you ended breakeven for the session .. well you actually got lucky
 

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