New Slot Announcement WOW! Laser Fruit by Red Tiger

[interlog]

yeah, I was sure I'd seen a max win, then when Balthazar mentioned it I couldn't be sure then I couldn't find it. So my instinct was right, I HAD seen a max win. I can't remember where though....

It is in your video, you even mentioned it. Max win of 10,000x in a single spin you said.

 

[Balthazar]

Trouble is I've read numerous times (and briefly experienced) that RT slots are like buckets, IE they have to be filled up (and individually) before they "spill over" Would put me off this fact alone until it can be proven its another tin foil moment??

One thing that I've learned on CM over the years is people from the UK got bent over for so long with compensated fruit machines that they always suspect that slots are compensated. It's like a 2nd nature for you guys.

 

[TheAddict]

One thing that I've learned on CM over the years is people from the UK got bent over for so long with compensated fruit machines that they always suspect that slots are compensated. It's like a 2nd nature for you guys.

Its the opposite tbh. For so long there were many great compensated games all over the country that anyone had half a chance of winning on even with little knowledge of hiw to play it, and could have fun at the same time.
It is only more recently that the unsuspecting punter is getting bent over by the majortiy of the compensated fruit machines available and having any of the fun taken out and promptly shoved up their arse ;p

 

[Jono777]

One thing that I've learned on CM over the years is people from the UK got bent over for so long with compensated fruit machines that they always suspect that slots are compensated. It's like a 2nd nature for you guys.

Its the opposite tbh. For so long there were many great compensated games all over the country that anyone had half a chance of winning on even with little knowledge of hiw to play it, and could have fun at the same time.
It is only more recently that the unsuspecting punter is getting bent over by the majortiy of the compensated fruit machines available and having any of the fun taken out and promptly shoved up their arse ;p

Strangely enough, I can agree with both of these points.

Not going to start foil hatting (again) but in all these years and despite all this "proof" and people in the know, I still find it VERY hard to believe that by design their is a big difference between programs/coding for land based machines Vs online slots.

Guess I'm a stubborn old fool who will never be truly convinced, that being said, I shall still be sat here when that "I told you so" day comes along

 

[dunover]

It is in your video, you even mentioned it. Max win of 10,000x in a single spin you said.

I did record it a while ago before I got permission to post it guys!

 

[TheAddict]

@jono . Well yeah, i was just pointing out they were generally fair up until 3-5 years ago and the royal bending over is more a recent thing with newer games (netent would probably acknowledge this with a slimey grin). Just need to sit in a wetherspoons for a day and watch every random person lose on pretty much anything they play. Or go in an arcade and find an old game that you used to play now with a lower % and half of the things that it once did what made many a unique and enjoyable experience entirely removed from its programming.

Though i know what he meant with that it might seem ingrained into the mind for some of us lol, its just the long period of getting bent over i didnt agree with.



Never put a cent in red tiger but might give this a few 20 pences, maybe even as much as id given bonanza and try 2-3quid! Definately looks interesting

 

[Mouche12]

So, there is a cap of 10,000x in a single win and for the bonus, or not? That would be disappointing, given the potential 60,000,000 ways.

 

[goatwack]

Well I guess designers have cottoned on that punters get bamboozled by huge megaways numbers, so what better way than to say '60 million ways to win'

People are going to lap it up, even if the paytable isn't that great. It's the illusion isn't it.......

60 million ways to win but several billion ways to have a non- paying combination, is what I fear might happen

Just glad something, anything, has diverted attention away from a certain other provider.............

 

[TheAddict]

Yeah goat. Wonder if a few from btg woke up and could be heard shouting 'sons a bitches!!!' While spitting cornflakes over the microwave when seeing this.
Suprised it hadnt been done much sooner tbh. Tbh.

 

[goatwack]

Yeah goat. Wonder if a few from btg woke up and could be heard shouting 'sons a bitches!!!' While spitting cornflakes over the microwave when seeing this.
Suprised it hadnt been done much sooner tbh. Tbh.

Seems news spreads fast. Here's the CEO of Big Time Gaming upon discovering Laser Fruit has 60 million ways

 

[TheAddict]

Hopefully he'll take some time to cool off by going outside and finding somewhere to print a few tshirts.

 

[dunover]

Seems news spreads fast. Here's the CEO of Big Time Gaming upon discovering Laser Fruit has 60 million ways

He's only copying me after my 5th. consecutive Bonus Guarantee on Rhino....

 

[shadow123]

Looks better than the recent new crap at VS, never had such rubbish play

 

[trancemonkey]

Interesting. That means that the slot is operating on a random reel stop basis and is capable of paying more. Is that in the help file or you heard that through the grapevine?

As opposed to what? A non-random one?!

 

[trancemonkey]

Seems news spreads fast. Here's the CEO of Big Time Gaming upon discovering Laser Fruit has 60 million ways

The funniest thing I heard was Nik trying to tell me they had patented Megaways at the Meister meet....

They may have trademarked the word... they certainly can't patent ways, mega or not... And they also can't patent the way they change the number of symbols shown on a reel (Except in the US and possibly AUS... but certainly not in Europe...)

EDIT: there goes my job prospects at BTG

 

[goatwack]

The funniest thing I heard was Nik trying to tell me they had patented Megaways at the Meister meet....

They may have trademarked the word... they certainly can't patent ways, mega or not... And they also can't patent the way they change the number of symbols shown on a reel (Except in the US and possibly AUS... but certainly not in Europe...)

EDIT: there goes my job prospects at BTG

Megaways isn't really a word, so no wonder they were greenlit for that particular one

Funny how companies try and claim other things too if allowed. I remember a certain video game developer attempting to trademark the word 'cyberpunk', from recollection.

Obviously, didn't work

 

[Mouche12]

Still, Bonanza has the potential to pay out much, much more than 10,000 (although I've only seen one of 14,000x so far), unless the casino has decided to cap winnings to $200K.

 

[Balthazar]

As opposed to what? A non-random one?!

There are various ways to use a RNG on a random slot, having random reel stops is one of them.

 

[Harry_BKK]

When Bonanza was released with then unseen 117K ways, I wondered when we will have one with 1Mio ways. I see that RT has gone way, way, way beyond that. Interesting concept and certainly worth a few spins but just imagine how low those base game pays must be for a single 5OAK to avoid the slot paying out $1 million in a single spin in the bonus round.

The question is now, how often will we see the 60Mio lines, less or more often than the 117K ways in Free Spins on Bonanza?

 

[trancemonkey]

There are various ways to use a RNG on a random slot, having random reel stops is one of them.

Interesting... what are the other ways?

 

[Sonict]

I don't play Red Tiger Games often, but I did like Esqueleto Mariachi so a game like this one looks awesome. I will be giving it a go once it hits casinos! great review, Dunover.

 

[trancemonkey]

When Bonanza was released with then unseen 117K ways, I wondered when we will see 1Mio lines. I see RT has gone way, way, way beyond that. Interesting concept and certainly worth a few spins but just imaging how low those base game pays must be for a single 5OAK to avoid the slot paying out $1 million in a single spin in the bonus round.

The question is now, how often will we see the 60Mio lines, less or more often than the 117K ways in Free Spins on Bonanza?

My guess is never... unless you're a popular steamer... then I guess it will be the first attempt

 

[Harry_BKK]

My guess is never... unless you're a popular steamer... then I guess it will be the first attempt

You could be right. Never is the most probable answer.

IIRC, the chance to have 117K ways in Free Spins on Bonanza is about 1:10 Million, the 60 Mio ways on this one is probably much less. On top, you need then to score a decent win.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Interesting... what are the other ways?

(I think) What Balthazar is getting at is that the RNG can be entirely fair behind the scenes but what you're shown on screen is sort of a 'show' version of what the RNG has produced. Certainly on some WMS slots (I did a video on it back in the day) what was shown scrolling past on the reels bore no relation whatsoever to the real chances of the symbols actually landing, the stacked wilds on the Star Trek slots were particularly obvious.

Another one that springs to mind is the progressive MG slot 'Tunzamunni' which drops the winning progressive combination above or below the winline with tedious regularity, it's clearly for show and to invoke a 'near miss' sensation in the player. So behind the scenes the RNG has produced a non-winning combination, but the slot displays a 'near miss' for show purposes.

 

[interlog]

So, there is a cap of 10,000x in a single win and for the bonus, or not? That would be disappointing, given the potential 60,000,000 ways.

Well if it is 10,000 for a single spin then you can have multiple ones of these during the bonus round........... on paper of course. Reality is probably totally different.