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Good slot except when you watch the 50+ predetermined free spin feature you have to restart the slot when it times out waiting for you to press spin button. If you happen to hate watching free spins(?) you can restart the slot after hitting the triggered scatters and the total feature win is already added to balance. Sad most or not all slots work this way but only discuise it more or less good...
 
Anyone who has played slots for a while thought that spins and bonuses weren't predetermined then? ;)

When you say predetermined , if a slot say has 10 freespins and then quickly simulates those 10 spins and then replays them slowly for the viewer . What is the difference ? I'm not sure of the mechanics how it works ? Does it come up with a total figure and then calculate spins to reach that figure ? Or does it merely simulate the spins internally and then present those spins ?

Picking bonuses where it knows what you are going to win before you pick . I mean , I guess if you believe that you have psychic picking powers then it makes a difference but otherwise , no
We're always at the mercy of what the slot decides to pay us really . The graphics and game are just there for show/entertainment
 
When you say predetermined , if a slot say has 10 freespins and then quickly simulates those 10 spins and then replays them slowly for the viewer . What is the difference ? I'm not sure of the mechanics how it works ? Does it come up with a total figure and then calculate spins to reach that figure ? Or does it merely simulate the spins internally and then present those spins ?

Picking bonuses where it knows what you are going to win before you pick . I mean , I guess if you believe that you have psychic picking powers then it makes a difference but otherwise , no
We're always at the mercy of what the slot decides to pay us really . The graphics and game are just there for show/entertainment

Some providers "determine" the free spins at the point they are won... QuickSpin do this, Blueprint, etc.. They are almost certainly not "picking a value and getting to it" - they are just determining the outcome of all the free games in one go, which makes game recovery much easier.
 
Predetermined slot wins = You're seeing a replay of something that is already decided, even though YOU are seeing it for the first time.

Rigged = Something that is set to screw someone over for the benefit of the casino/different players

Red Tiger has Predetermined slot wins, they do not have rigged slots
 
Predetermined slot wins = You're seeing a replay of something that is already decided, even though YOU are seeing it for the first time.

Rigged = Something that is set to screw someone over for the benefit of the casino/different players

Red Tiger has Predetermined slot wins, they do not have rigged slots

And only in the free games are the spins predetermined.... it's the ONLY place the rules allow it to happen as long as they are determined at the point that they are won, if my understanding is correct
 
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Well, tried this for the first time tonight. 140 spins for the first bonus to give me the grand total of x12. 1680 ways. First impressions are if you get this right you'll get a monster pay out but it'll be the usual buh bye bank balance.
 
I have tried this slot a few times now in between playing other slots, I have triggered the free spins about 7 - 8 times and only once did the free spins not trigger in the first 100 spins, The bonus that took the longest to trigger actually paid the most and it took about 300 spins and £80 to trigger, All the others have paid 100x or less.

I haven't really played it a lot i usually play until i get one bonus then come off, This is the best result i have had from the free spins.

 
typical of red tiger to do a mega ways style game but strip away the potential for medium to big wins, playing it at coral tonight on 20p and got the bonus, 50 free spins, thought to myself this should be good!

And the end result was £5.60. :mad: I know Bonanza has done many evil deeds but I think a 50 spin bonus would give you a lot more than £5.60, also there were no retriggers in 50 spins. :rolleyes:
 
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no new posts in a while and i dont really see (m)any streamers playing it either. Maybe it wasnt a hit despite its 662095888239 ways to lose?

after playingit a few times i think they made a few big mistakes

1) too many dead spins in free spins
2) too many dead spins in general
3) random features pay around 2x on average
4) too many dead spins in free spins

unlocking 60m ways should pretty much guarantee you a decent win. its just off putting when there are 60m ways to win and you have 18 dead spins followed by 2x wins. Id much rather have 5-10 spins retriggers that are 1 in 2 to hit than 50 spins that are 1 in 20.

tldr: it has 60 millions ways to win, and often gives 100+ free spins with retriggers and yet i feel i have higher chances of winning big on 5 lines merkur slot. It just feels wrong, so to speak :)

edit: just watched Chopleys video its pretty much spot on and it perfectly reflects my feelings towards this one. its boring. thats it. To make things worse it comes with (in)famous redtiger variance so you arent getting much, if any help from base game either.
 
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Pretty sure this slot has been tweaked, I got a 1500x hit first day and quite a few others posted decent wins
for a few days.Now it seems much harder to get free spins, the 50 spins dont happen and there are
far too many losing free spins.
 
Pretty sure this slot has been tweaked, I got a 1500x hit first day and quite a few others posted decent wins
for a few days.Now it seems much harder to get free spins, the 50 spins dont happen and there are
far too many losing free spins.

If you ask people, nearly all of the big wins happened on the first play or first few plays without a hit and then since the hit its crap, but its totally random..............and any similarities to compensated games are completely coincidental...........as all online slots are random.

Yeah i know big wooden spoon and tin foil hat time again.......but I can only comment on the pattern i have seen with over 20 players data of this slot.
 
I've just made an executive decision today never to play another red tiger game again, had a nice balance courtesy of raging rhino and opened a new slot called wild diamond, upon the game loading I saw the red tiger logo appear, 'Oh dear' I thought, I'll just try a few spins at 20p. The game took £15 with an rtp of about 25% if that, I shut the game down and thought I know I'll go back to rhino and try to recover the £15. Big mistake, I lost the lot, it was robbing me faster than wild diamond and laser fruit combined :mad:.

But overall I blame red tiger more than the rhino, they are worse than netent, probably the reason why all the casinos are flooding their sites with red tiger games :eek2::mad::(:mad::mad::mad:
 
They've rushed it out without playing it enough and getting the gameplay right; the evidence is there for all to see. When you consider the amount of time it would have taken to develop a slot like that it's a real pity. It's possible that they panicked when they found out that Blueprint are getting BTG's Megaways, so hurried it out too quickly. Given the time and effort that they seem to put into the rest of their slots it's really unfortunate that they haven't done this concept the justice it deserves.
 
I've just made an executive decision today never to play another red tiger game again, had a nice balance courtesy of raging rhino and opened a new slot called wild diamond, upon the game loading I saw the red tiger logo appear, 'Oh dear' I thought, I'll just try a few spins at 20p. The game took £15 with an rtp of about 25% if that, I shut the game down and thought I know I'll go back to rhino and try to recover the £15. Big mistake, I lost the lot, it was robbing me faster than wild diamond and laser fruit combined :mad:.

But overall I blame red tiger more than the rhino, they are worse than netent, probably the reason why all the casinos are flooding their sites with red tiger games :eek2::mad::(:mad::mad::mad:


Why on earth would you go back to rhino?? I have never understood that, I have played online slots for years and not once and i truly mean that have i ever hit 2 big hits in a row on any game where my RTP has been near to or above the expected RTP ever, so sorry, random my arse! And dont get me started on red tiger games lol
 
Why on earth would you go back to rhino?? I have never understood that, I have played online slots for years and not once and i truly mean that have i ever hit 2 big hits in a row on any game where my RTP has been near to or above the expected RTP ever, so sorry, random my arse! And dont get me started on red tiger games lol

Well I thought I'll just do a few spins and see if I can get a quick bonus, I was being silly trying to get back to my peak balance of £129 [from a £15 deposit]. It made me so angry with myself, I logged out and chased my losses elsewhere, of course this just lead to more losses. So with reluctance I took a step back logged out from the casinos and thank goodness came back on casinomeister, read a post by harry_bkk and regained my sanity. Otherwise things could have gone from bad to worse for me tonight as I would have carried on chasing losses.
 
Pretty sure this slot has been tweaked, I got a 1500x hit first day and quite a few others posted decent wins
for a few days.Now it seems much harder to get free spins, the 50 spins dont happen and there are
far too many losing free spins.

A rep from Red Tiger came into a streamchat a while ago and said that the first day of the release of this slot they had made a loss on a slot. Says it all I guess :D
 
I just gave it another go about an hour ago, I was only doing 20p a spin because i only deposited £20, I did get a bonus within the first 100 spins like most of my previous bonuses, Got 50 spins, Then a re trigger for 20, But didn't pay much just over 60 x i got, Most of the time when the expansion things went across the reels they missed, So i didn't get many ways open.

I would say it's still worth a try, Playing in between slots, But i don't usually stay on a slot long, Either i will do 50 - 200 spins or come after getting a bonus which ever happens first, Then move to another Slot.
 
I got another nice bonus on this on Friday and just uploaded it, I did start with a £60 balance and was doing 40p a spin, But when my balance dropped to £20 i changed the bet to 20p a spin, But it's still a nice win, Sorry for the length of the video, I was talking too someone during the free spins and didn't click to stop some of the win count ups.


 
A rep from Red Tiger came into a streamchat a while ago and said that the first day of the release of this slot they had made a loss on a slot. Says it all I guess :D

This post puzzles me. How can a provider make a loss on the first day of operation? Sure a casino could....but how so a provider? Please can you explain. Cheers
 
This post puzzles me. How can a provider make a loss on the first day of operation? Sure a casino could....but how so a provider? Please can you explain. Cheers

I was just quoting what the guy said. But my logical guess is they just saw a "positive RTP" in the stats of the game :p Which would mean that all casino's offering Red Tiger games combined had made a loss on this slot on the day of release of this particular slot.
 

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