New Slot Announcement New 3Dice slot - 'DICE FUSION', 3Dice does Reactoonz

[KasinoKing]

lol...If you walk along the pavement and see a 500g medium-brown walnut whip-shaped dog turd and knowingly ignore it, then 10 paces further along see a 500g dark brown walnut whip-shaped dog turd with some sweetcorn embedded in it, would you pick it up in your hand because it looked different to the first turd?

I don't understand what your problem is - neither of them are bad games. I've had some amazing wins on Reactoonz
Yes, they look sort of medium variance but are actually pretty high variance in my opinion. (A bit TOO high for my liking - I can hardly bare to play Reactoonz any more)
OK, so you are VERY unlikely to get x1000+ but you can still get some very decent hits.

KK

 

[incrediblestuff]

I don't understand what your problem is - neither of them are bad games. I've had some amazing wins on Reactoonz
Yes, they look sort of medium variance but are actually pretty high variance in my opinion. (A bit TOO high for my liking - I can hardly bare to play Reactoonz any more)
OK, so you are VERY unlikely to get x1000+ but you can still get some very decent hits.

KK

Same for me! Still love the game in a way, but can hardly stand to play it these days.
And Dunover's prob is just being a grumpy 'ole sourpuss (j/k buddy i love ya)

I do get why a lot of people hate Reactoonz and the likes, though. The sense of riggedness and the teasing are strong in this one! Same for it's clones and 'nephews'.....

@1000x - Fun thing is, that holds less true for Dice Fusion @KasinoKing and it has already been chucking out several 3K+ hits since launch. Obviously, having a comparatively much smaller playerbase then say Reactoonz would have had on launch, and counting results over the years, i ask you how many 1000x + screenies and vid's have you even seen on that game up til now? And i'm saying that as a fan Which would mean that over this little test-phase, if you will, the Dice game already blasts the OG out of the park, in terms of delivering it's max potential/

Side note: Iirc - i even get you hooked on the predecessor back in the day, Energoonz, and i've played all those grid games that came before and after, with gusto, so to speak. I think i can count the 1000x's combined over all clones, nephews and the OG on one hand

Just saying, despite loving Reactoonz, i already feel this Fusion game outdoes the game it was obviously inspired by,- by a mile! The enhancements are better, the teases are less annoying (that's of course just a matter of taste ) the max win is more achievable, and overall it just feels and plays better, i.m.o.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'll lob this in here rather than start another thread, throughout the Christmas/New Year period 3Dice run a load of extra promos, and they're really quite good. Your regular VIP bonuses are boosted a bit and may even end up with no WR. On top of that, any deposit in a 24 hour period enters you into the daily sweepstake draws (of which there are three), and if your name turns up on the SPINNY WHEEL OF PRIZES you get, well obviously, a prize.

(This in on top of a load of other stuff where they add achievement thingies into a variety of their slots whereby you also win cash for getting the most/least of a whole host of different events/results based on various parameters, longest winning streak, longest losing streak, most retriggers, highest consecutive number of free spins etc.)

Anyway, this is the first year my name has come in on one of the draws, and y'know, it's really pretty good, a £150 bonus award with a wagering requirement of..... zero.

This is why I stay playing at 3Dice, even when a new game of theirs like Dice Fusion pisses me off (you can see I'm just back playing Enchanted Spins in the background here), when was the last time a casino gave you a £150 bonus completely wager free? (i.e Withdrawable funds.)

I am still undecided as to whether or not I want to take on Dice Fusion again, even with the £150 of free money.....

 

[The Viking]

I'll lob this in here rather than start another thread, throughout the Christmas/New Year period 3Dice run a load of extra promos, and they're really quite good. Your regular VIP bonuses are boosted a bit and may even end up with no WR. On top of that, any deposit in a 24 hour period enters you into the daily sweepstake draws (of which there are three), and if your name turns up on the SPINNY WHEEL OF PRIZES you get, well obviously, a prize.

(This in on top of a load of other stuff where they add achievement thingies into a variety of their slots whereby you also win cash for getting the most/least of a whole host of different events/results based on various parameters, longest winning streak, longest losing streak, most retriggers, highest consecutive number of free spins etc.)

Anyway, this is the first year my name has come in on one of the draws, and y'know, it's really pretty good, a £150 bonus award with a wagering requirement of..... zero.

This is why I stay playing at 3Dice, even when a new game of theirs like Dice Fusion pisses me off (you can see I'm just back playing Enchanted Spins in the background here), when was the last time a casino gave you a £150 bonus completely wager free? (i.e Withdrawable funds.)

I am still undecided as to whether or not I want to take on Dice Fusion again, even with the £150 of free money.....

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Very nice
Remember about 3 years ago before they took all my deposit options away i won around 1000 bux in one of thos holiday random jackpots ?
Was playing Tut with about $2 bux left when one of thos scrolling reels pops up and landed on my name ?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Even free money can't tempt me back to give Dice Fusion another try with real funds, so instead I've kept it lumping away in demo play with a 100x stop trigger, WHICH IT RARELY HITS. (For my actual real money play, I've returned to old favourites such as Enchanted Spins and Berrini's Fortune.)

It still hasn't done a 1000x or better win either, I just don't get the volatility profile/win distribution on this slot at all, unlike something such as Enchanted Spins, which can sort of go on 'streaks' if you catch it right and recover a surprising amount of damage with a nice cluster of mid-sized wins, Dice Fusion doesn't seem capable of it, once you get a few hundred times stake down, that's kind of it really, you almost certainly ain't recovering that position.

I'd be interested to know what the maximum win it's capable of is, 3Dice will obviously have the numbers, and in the past they've been forthcoming with them when I've asked. Maybe there are some monster hits in there to help account for the horrible balance draining it seems to do most of the time.

Anyway, at least it's only getting pretend money off me now

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So I've switched to real money play for the evening and fired up Gemini, 13 minutes in and it throws out 259x, I've had Dice Fusion running all day in fun money mode and it hasn't managed that.

I also hate the contrived sequences that Dice Fusion (Reactoonz) employs, you're obviously just watching computer generated sequences of results that have been picked out of a bag of RNG numbers, rather than an actual slot with, y'know, actual reels.

So yeah, not a fan, you can probably tell.

 

[rena35]

I got a nice 600 bucks on a 40 cent bet playing Dice Fusion. I lost a bit trying it when it first was released. I am not a big fan of it. I might give it a few spins but nothing more. I don't like Legion game at all but i have seen some nice wins. Way to go on the sweepstakes win. I tried to win it but found i deposited way more then it was worth. My luck has always been a one hit wonder . Everyones game play is differet so you never know .

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I am still lumping away at Dice Fusion in demo play mode. Still no 1000x win. I have done lots of spins on it in demo play. Lots.

You get $100 of free money when loading up a slot in demo play at 3Dice, so what usually happens is I load the slot up, and slowly lose the $100 on 20c spins. And then I do it again. And again. And again. Sometimes my balance goes up a bit to start with, but it always ends up at zero.

I have it set to a 100x stop trigger, and it very rarely hits that.

TBH if I'd had any idea that the pay profile on this game was so whack I'd never have even remotely chucked as much real money into it as I did.

Sometimes lessons need to be learned the hard way!

 

[dunover]

I am still lumping away at Dice Fusion in demo play mode. Still no 1000x win. I have done lots of spins on it in demo play. Lots.

You get $100 of free money when loading up a slot in demo play at 3Dice, so what usually happens is I load the slot up, and slowly lose the $100 on 20c spins. And then I do it again. And again. And again. Sometimes my balance goes up a bit to start with, but it always ends up at zero.

I have it set to a 100x stop trigger, and it very rarely hits that.

TBH if I'd had any idea that the pay profile on this game was so whack I'd never have even remotely chucked as much real money into it as I did.

Sometimes lessons need to be learned the hard way!

Seems like Gnatent must've designed the game...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

New high score!

867x so alas still not the fabled 1000x or better which I seek, and yes I am in demo play, I am not spending any more real money on this game.

Still, in fairness, this is with a starting balance of $100 and on 20c spins my balance has increased to $287. (This is probably about the best I've ever seen it play, it's hit a few other decent wins too this session.)

I've also realised that I completely hate these reaction/tumble style games from a fundamental design perspective, as you're clearly just watching pre-scripted sequences that play out based on what the RNG has picked out of a bag, so a 'lottery' style game like Jammin' Jars, basically.

I like games with proper reels, although I appreciate I am a bit of an old fuddy-duddy in that regard.

Now on the other hand, I really like Enchanted Spin's bonus round, even though I know I am watching a result that has already been generated server-side just play out, but unlike the contrived nonsense that Dice Fusion/Reactoonz shows you, at least with Enchanted Spins you're watching the results of a set of random picks.

 

[Kroffe]

New high score!

867x so alas still not the fabled 1000x or better which I seek, and yes I am in demo play, I am not spending any more real money on this game.

Still, in fairness, this is with a starting balance of $100 and on 20c spins my balance has increased to $287. (This is probably about the best I've ever seen it play, it's hit a few other decent wins too this session.)

I've also realised that I completely hate these reaction/tumble style games from a fundamental design perspective, as you're clearly just watching pre-scripted sequences that play out based on what the RNG has picked out of a bag, so a 'lottery' style game like Jammin' Jars, basically.

I like games with proper reels, although I appreciate I am a bit of an old fuddy-duddy in that regard.

Now on the other hand, I really like Enchanted Spin's bonus round, even though I know I am watching a result that has already been generated server-side just play out, but unlike the contrived nonsense that Dice Fusion/Reactoonz shows you, at least with Enchanted Spins you're watching the results of a set of random picks.

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Speaking of RNG, have you played 'Slay the spire'?
A pretty fun card game that is similar to Hearthstone in some ways.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This is the other problem with this game, I'm surprised 3Dice copied it directly from Reactoonz (because it's really skanky), and it explains why it can be so miserable to play sometimes, unless you're hitting those big wins right up at the top end, there's really nothing else on the paytable to give you a balance boost or even a solid win.

Hitting the 750x is really hard, and even the next one down at 300x is pretty bloody rare. (It is possible to get multipliers on the wins but which ones can actually be multiplied? I don't know because we're looking at nonsense sound and light shows rather than proper reels, do they exist on the paytable? Who knows, who can tell? Can the 750x get a 2x multiplier? Flip a coin!)

Also there's some RTP missing here, as the original PnG version (at max RTP at least) was 96.4% or thereabouts, whereas 3Dice have knocked it down to 95.2%, so clearly some wins have been taken out of the results.

Overall this game has got one of those really weird PnG volatility profiles whereby the max wins aren't that big, but with such a dependence on those mid-biggish range wins that are rare, catch it on a downswing and it'll slowly dismantle as much money as you care to throw at it.

4/10 - would not Dice Fusion again with real money.

 

[goatwack]

Can't believe it. No, not Dice Fusion's shady returns, but the fact that we're witnessing the conscious uncoupling of Chopley and 3Dice in real-time!!

 

[KasinoKing]

I've also realised that I completely hate these reaction/tumble style games from a fundamental design perspective, as you're clearly just watching pre-scripted sequences that play out based on what the RNG has picked out of a bag, so a 'lottery' style game like Jammin' Jars, basically.

I like games with proper reels, although I appreciate I am a bit of an old fuddy-duddy in that regard.

I have come to suspect that ALL slots these days work on the "lottery-style" principle - basically they are all just scratchcards with very fancy graphics to reveal whatever size win got picked out of the hat.
Even slots like the good old MG 9-liners have probably been reprogrammed this way, when they were "upgraded" to HTML5

Jammin' Jams was just very sloppily done, which allowed the mechanics to be spotted fairly easily.

At the end of the day - does it REALLY make any difference?
I don't like to admit it, but NO it doesn't. The RTP is the RTP, no matter how exactly it is arrived at.

KK

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Can't believe it. No, not Dice Fusion's shady returns, but the fact that we're witnessing the conscious uncoupling of Chopley and 3Dice in real-time!!

I'll rebrand myself to GwynethIOM

In all seriousness though, I'm not uncritical of 3Dice and never have been, I just think they get a lot of stuff right when it comes to what you'd want from an online casino, and report my opinions on that basis. (And get accused of 'shilling' for my trouble.....)

I genuinely think they've dropped the ball with this game though, and don't really understand why they chose to clone this game as a new release.

(I could be completely wrong of course, perhaps it's doing banging numbers for them and everyone else who plays at 3Dice loves it!)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I have come to suspect that ALL slots these days work on the "lottery-style" principle - basically they are all just scratchcards with very fancy graphics to reveal whatever size win got picked out of the hat.
Even slots like the good old MG 9-liners have probably been reprogrammed this way, when they were "upgraded" to HTML5

Jammin' Jams was just very sloppily done, which allowed the mechanics to be spotted fairly easily.

At the end of the day - does it REALLY make any difference?
I don't like to admit it, but NO it doesn't. The RTP is the RTP, no matter how exactly it is arrived at.

KK

For me KK, I think it does matter, because what these style of games represent is a total disconnect between the 'backend' and the 'frontend'. We had a big debate about Jammin' Jars back in 2018 and my problem with Reactoonz/Dice Fusion is kind of the same, it creates false expectation on the player's part, because the game shows you 'possibilities' that simply don't exist. I've seen some screens on Dice Fusion where in the Gargantoon round there was a monster pay on offer if it'd landed in the right place, but there's no randomness in where it's going to land, it's just a pre-scripted sequence playing out.

I appreciate this isn't unique either, Twin Spin (and Gemini does the same at 3Dice) famously makes it look like it can land five full reels of diamonds when it's doing the reel locks, but those who know the game, know it doesn't exist on the paytable.

I saw someone post a screenshot from Gemini in the chat at 3Dice last year, it was full strips of diamonds on 2-3-4-5 with a comment along the lines of 'So close, just needed reel 1 as well!' and other players commiserating with them, and I'm just thinking 'that's an impossible hit, it doesn't exist'.

This is why I tend to stick to older, simpler games, where I can see what's going on with the reels.

I do see your point though, you absolutely can take the line that as long as the original RNG call that kicks the sequence off is entirely random at all times, from the entire result set, then it doesn't ultimately make much difference. (Which in the strictest mathematical sense, is true!)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Back in real money play, and it's a new high score that's fallen just short of my 1000x target - but I'll definitely settle for it!

I haven't deposited any money to play here, but I got my 21st of the month VIP bonus which is £25 of funds on a 15xWR, so £375 to wager from £25.

I figured since it was sort of free money, I'd lob it at Dice Fusion, not expecting great results, and yet with a mere £6.73p left in the tank, it did this.....

That's a nice potential landing zone for a Gargantoon.....



And it actually landed in the perfect spot!




Round finished at 944x stake.

So that makes finishing wagering on this pretty much a slam dunk, getting the remainder of £375 done from a balance of just shy of £200 is going to happen, but I've moved over to Enchanted Spins for that

Honestly, this doesn't change my opinion about Dice Fusion or any of my previous comments about it, I was only playing it this evening as I had bonus funds to do so with, but sure, I won't moan about a 944x stake win

 

[pokerdan]

Took me forever to win on it. But I finally got some big wins on Fusion. In that second picture I had a chance for an even bigger win. if the orb would have landed to left and connected the other 3dice symbols it would have been 3-4 more dice symbols I think.

 

[dave1888]

Anyway, your TLDR on this is 3Dice now have a dice-themed Reactoonz on their books with a better RTP than you're likely to find Reactoonz at these days.....

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Reactoonz is 96% for UK on the White hat group(casilando,reel island etc) I think it might be decent RTP on Sporting bet and Party too would need to check..

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Took me forever to win on it. But I finally got some big wins on Fusion. In that second picture I had a chance for an even bigger win. if the orb would have landed to left and connected the other 3dice symbols it would have been 3-4 more dice symbols I think.

So that first hit there appears to have breached the fabled 1000x win threshold, and indeed by quite some margin, coming in at 1548x!

Once you get to 15 3Dice symbols in a cluster it doesn't matter how many more are in it, you're at the maximum 750x at that point, the only thing that can make the win bigger is if you get a 2x2 of the 3Dice symbol somewhere in the cluster, which will double it, or a second 2x2 which will quadruple it. i.e. 750x, 1500x, or 3000x.

To get 1548x suggests you had a 2x2 of the 3Dice symbols as part of the big win, do you remember if that's what happened or not?

For example in this reaction here, the presence of the 2x2 block means it pays 600x (£60x2) in instead of 300x.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I have no idea how this happened, I have had this game running in demo play a lot. Like, A LOT.

Came back from a walk to the shops to find this, 3054x stake.

Alas it's demo play, but it shows it can hit big!

I'd love to understand what set of circumstances can actually lead to this sort of win - maybe @3Dice can help? (As the biggest single win according to the paytable is 750x for the top paying cluster, so there must have been multiple big reactions with multipliers going on.)

I don't suppose 3Dice log demo play so could replay the round?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Oh for absolute flip's sake Chopley you numbnuts moomin.....

I've just realised you can click on the little arrows to look at the win history on the current round, oh well, that's long gone now for the win shown above!

Piffle!

 

[incrediblestuff]

Lol, i did note earlier that this one's 'max potential' at least seems to show up a ton - which is why i asked how often you, and anyone else here, have seena 1000x plus win on Reactoonz? Including you, there are at least 7 3Dice players that have hit the 3000x so far, which in comparison is 10000 times as much as Reactoonz delivered, i'm sure

Granted i'm sucking those numbers from Play'n GO out of my arse, but i think i'm spot on!
I don't even think the 3000x is max, but it's basically possible to hit that in one spin, if i undrstand it correctly, and in the bonus you could theoretically then get it on all three wild feature hits, plus the stuff leading up to it? Which would make a 10.000x possible?

Questionmarks instead of exclamation, since i'm not sure it's a one spin hit. If not, a 5000x would seem more on target, as max-ish win.
Obviously would love to find out whilst playing

I gave it a little break, because just as Reactoonz, it does my fckn head in with all the teases, and 20p is also a little over my preferred betsize ^.^
Hope you hit it in real mate!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I landed a decent hit on Lycantropics, documented here - New 3Dice Slot - 'LYCANTROPICS' - Yes that is what they called it - Page 2 - Casinomeister Forum

Still got nearly all the wagering to do on the deposit, and I'm in a favourable position. So much against my better judgement, this bastard can have another crack of the whip.

COME ON BABY, EVERYTHING'S COMING UP CHOPLEY TONIGHT.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well it clearly can't go wrong at this point, but the more I can finish with the better!

I do like having an old-fashioned WR to target.