New Slot Announcement WOW! Laser Fruit by Red Tiger

[steveh35]

I love this game i think it could already be my favourite game.

 

[shadow123]

Talk about low to high to low,playing on auto at 60p, totally dead, got free spins eventually then
saw that somehow the stake was £4, never play as high as that..Gave 40 spins, £ signs in eyes.retriggers with 24 spins.
grand total for the feature . . . 100x.wish it was the 1500 x I got the other day.

 

[slotmaster]

Has shadow seen the light already?

 

[goatwack]

Has shadow seen the light already?

Not bad. I'd rate that a solid 7/ 10

 

[lotusch]

Played it on V&J few days ago and to my surprise I got the free spins quite quickly,within 30 spins or so on a €1.00 bet.
Never ever had a feature so quickly on a Red Tiger game.
Got 40 FS!!!! but the result was to cry for.. 71.6x stake and no retriggers..
I had God knows how many multiways but all wins I got were cherries,oranges and some lemons..

So hmmmm...Left the game right after as I was very disappointed to get 71.6x in 40 FS..

Another big mouth (look how much you can win) slot with a gazillion ways, but no connectors on the first 3 reels even (many dead spins in FS round).

Inventive slot, but I think I will pass in the future..

 

[dave1888]

Played it on V&J few days ago and to my surprise I got the free spins quite quickly,within 30 spins or so on a €1.00 bet.
Never ever had a feature so quickly on a Red Tiger game.
Got 40 FS!!!! but the result was to cry for.. 71.6x stake and no retriggers..
I had God knows how many multiways but all wins I got were cherries,oranges and some lemons..

So hmmmm...Left the game right after as I was very disappointed to get 71.6x in 40 FS..

Another big mouth (look how much you can win) slot with a gazillion ways, but no connectors on the first 3 reels even (many dead spins in FS round).

Inventive slot, but I think I will pass in the future..

Has potential thought definitely...Someone posted a +5400x win on Bandits website

 

[Greigssy]

I've played this quite a lot had around 20 bonuses but only one with a re-trigger.

Maybe I'm just unlucky,but I always get the standard 10 to 25x bet bonus win that seems to be on every Red Tiger slot, no matter how many ways, winning lines or wilds there are.

 

[SlotGrinder]

Played it on V&J few days ago and to my surprise I got the free spins quite quickly,within 30 spins or so on a €1.00 bet.
Never ever had a feature so quickly on a Red Tiger game.
Got 40 FS!!!! but the result was to cry for.. 71.6x stake and no retriggers..
I had God knows how many multiways but all wins I got were cherries,oranges and some lemons..

So hmmmm...Left the game right after as I was very disappointed to get 71.6x in 40 FS..

Another big mouth (look how much you can win) slot with a gazillion ways, but no connectors on the first 3 reels even (many dead spins in FS round).

Inventive slot, but I think I will pass in the future..

True but it's difficult to make a slot which makes money (for the casino) yet has huge potential and doesn't take 1000s of spins to trigger a bonus . Obviously 60 million ways sounds amazing but it's never going to give you wins in the same proportion as the basegame pays or it would break the casinos. The reels for the 60 million ways can't just be a continuation of the reels for the 243 ways. So yeh in a way it is gimmicky and an illusion because obviously there are 1 line slots which can pay huge . It all depends on the pays and the reels

 

[BrianGhattas]

Had a better result earlier today, getting 40 free spins and a 135x bonus from it.

 

[Balthazar]

Reading this thread is a bit depressing TBH. People want high volatility slots but if they don't win 1000x during their first 2 sessions the slot is shit/rigged.

Also they don't want a bonus that's difficult to get, but they don't want a bad bonus either. So bonus must come frequently, must pay great and the base game must be kind. Well, that's ridiculous.

High volatility = you have the chance to win big in exchange for a very little chance to win at all. When you lose, it's normal. If you don't like the slot because you think it's a bad design, fine. However if you don't like the slot because you didn't win you may need help.

 

[dbl88]

One thing i dont get is why the reason to make the game up to 60 million ways if max win is 10 000x, ?

 

[Balthazar]

One thing i dont get is why the reason to make the game up to 60 million ways if max win is 10 000x, ?

Like @ChopleyIOM mentioned earlier in the thread, we don't know if there's a hard cap at 10,000x (per spin or per bonus?) or if it's simply not possible to win more than that on a single spin due to reel configuration (eg: if all the 7's show up on the screen = 400 ways of 7's = 10,000x). If it's the latter then it's not really capped, it's just how the reels are designed and I don't have any issue with that.

 

[lockinlove]

Reading this thread is a bit depressing TBH. People want high volatility slots but if they don't win 1000x during their first 2 sessions the slot is shit/rigged.

Also they don't want a bonus that's difficult to get, but they don't want a bad bonus either. So bonus must come frequently, must pay great and the base game must be kind. Well, that's ridiculous.

High volatility = you have the chance to win big in exchange for a very little chance to win at all. When you lose, it's normal. If you don't like the slot because you think it's a bad design, fine. However if you don't like the slot because you didn't win you may need help.

Sounds pretty judgemental. Whats the big deal if people complain about a slot treating them like shit? You may be on the wrong forum if you dont like it. Make sure not to visit the bonanza thread or you might really be outraged. And dont watch any dunover youtube videos either because you will be really stressed if you dont like anyone complaining about slots.

Insinuating someone has a problem because they complain about cold slots is hyperbole and disrespectful. I complain when someone hands be a warm beer, I like them cold. Am I an alcoholic then?

 

[dunover]

Sounds pretty judgemental. Whats the big deal if people complain about a slot treating them like shit? You may be on the wrong forum if you dont like it. Make sure not to visit the bonanza thread or you might really be outraged. And dont watch any dunover youtube videos either because you will be really stressed if you dont like anyone complaining about slots.

Insinuating someone has a problem because they complain about cold slots is hyperbole and disrespectful. I complain when someone hands be a warm beer, I like them cold. Am I an alcoholic then?

When have you ever heard me complain, accuse them of being rigged or swear about them???

 

[lockinlove]

When have you ever heard me complain, accuse them of being rigged or swear about them???

Well if we are judging people by how much they complain, I would imagine you have a room rented out at GA

 

[Balthazar]

Sounds pretty judgemental. Whats the big deal if people complain about a slot treating them like shit? You may be on the wrong forum if you dont like it. Make sure not to visit the bonanza thread or you might really be outraged. And dont watch any dunover youtube videos either because you will be really stressed if you dont like anyone complaining about slots.

Insinuating someone has a problem because they complain about cold slots is hyperbole and disrespectful. I complain when someone hands be a warm beer, I like them cold. Am I an alcoholic then?

I watch most of his videos actually. There's a difference between tongue-in-cheek complaint and being mad because you lose vs people who genuinely believe that something is rigged when it acts like it's supposed to. This forum is full of people and resources that can explain the mechanic of slot machines, why not use them? Saying a slot is rigged here is the online equivalent of the annoying guy in a B&M casino who hits his machine because he's losing.

PS: Yeah I refuse to read the Bonanza thread.

 

[lockinlove]

I watch most of his videos actually. There's a difference between tongue-in-cheek complaint and being mad because you lose vs people who genuinely believe that something is rigged when it acts like it's supposed to. This forum is full of people and resources that can explain the mechanic of slot machines, why not use them? Saying a slot is rigged here is the online equivalent of the annoying guy in a B&M casino who hits his machine because he's losing.

PS: Yeah I refuse to read the Bonanza thread.

I can assure you there is some not so tongue in cheek comments by many members here including dunover but it doesnt mean they have a problem. He has been visibly upset and calling the slots rigged because of it. Go watch his bad streak on trada. Whether everyone means it or not or its the heat of the moment remains the same really.

I watched a little bit of interlogs stream this morning and he was getting pissed off at some BTG slots with the feature buy and calling it scripted. I think its just how people vent when a slot isnt being so nice. Because I dont think he has a problem either.

I think there is a big difference by saying rigged slot out of frustration and hitting a slot machine. The same would be hitting your laptop or the table you are playing on or throwing something to hitting a slot machine in a B&M.

Unless Im missing it I see alot of the posters saying the slot sucks or is shit which I dont really see out of the ordinary.

And btw I agree with your post just not when you suggested people who act like that have a problem. HV can be the devil and people should expect variance and alot of bad bonuses and disappointments. So yes I can understand why the complaining would get to some people.

 

[Balthazar]

I can assure you there is some not so tongue in cheek comments by many members here including dunover but it doesnt mean they have a problem. He has been visibly upset and calling the slots rigged because of it. Go watch his bad streak on trada. Whether everyone means it or not or its the heat of the moment remains the same really.

I watched a little bit of interlogs stream this morning and he was getting pissed off at some BTG slots with the feature buy and calling it scripted. I think its just how people vent when a slot isnt being so nice. Because I dont think he has a problem either.

I think there is a big difference by saying rigged slot out of frustration and hitting a slot machine. The same would be hitting your laptop or the table you are playing on or throwing something to hitting a slot machine in a B&M.

Unless Im missing it I see alot of the posters saying the slot sucks or is shit which I dont really see out of the ordinary.

And btw I agree with your post just not when you suggested people who act like that have a problem. HV can be the devil and people should expect variance and alot of bad bonuses and disappointments. So yes I can understand why the complaining would get to some people.

Fair enough.

 

[interlog]

I can assure you there is some not so tongue in cheek comments by many members here including dunover but it doesnt mean they have a problem. He has been visibly upset and calling the slots rigged because of it. Go watch his bad streak on trada. Whether everyone means it or not or its the heat of the moment remains the same really.

I watched a little bit of interlogs stream this morning and he was getting pissed off at some BTG slots with the feature buy and calling it scripted. I think its just how people vent when a slot isnt being so nice. Because I dont think he has a problem either.

I think there is a big difference by saying rigged slot out of frustration and hitting a slot machine. The same would be hitting your laptop or the table you are playing on or throwing something to hitting a slot machine in a B&M.

Unless Im missing it I see alot of the posters saying the slot sucks or is shit which I dont really see out of the ordinary.

And btw I agree with your post just not when you suggested people who act like that have a problem. HV can be the devil and people should expect variance and alot of bad bonuses and disappointments. So yes I can understand why the complaining would get to some people.

Those comments I made were indeed very genuine. It does feel at times on these feature buy slots that it is all scripted and predetermined the minute you buy that bonus. It happens most of the times. You set off with lots of mega ways on White Rabbit as an example and quelle surprise - no cup cakes to be seen. You need one more cup cake for the retrigger with quite a few spins to go - what a bleeding surprise, it suddenly doesn't hit on the reel with the 11 positions.

I only played these feature buys because I already made a nice profit of £400. So it wasn't a case of being a sore loser.

 

[steveh35]

I don't get why people don't like this game the potential is there as I know from personal experience (see the winning screen shot I posted in the other thread) and thre graphics and design are excellent but I can also see that some bonuses are 40+ dead spins as I had last night with the first two reels going high but the rest of the reels stayed static.

It is a red tiger game if so if you play it you know how volatile it is but when it pays it can be a monster, Red Tiger should be pleased with themselves for out playing BTG and going head to head with Extra Chilli and from the Videoslots front page it is generating more plays now than Chilli and Bonanza.

 

[lockinlove]

Those comments I made were indeed very genuine. It does feel at times on these feature buy slots that it is all scripted and predetermined the minute you buy that bonus. It happens most of the times. You set off with lots of mega ways on White Rabbit as an example and quelle surprise - no cup cakes to be seen. You need one more cup cake for the retrigger with quite a few spins to go - what a bleeding surprise, it suddenly doesn't hit on the reel with the 11 positions.

I only played these feature buys because I already made a nice profit of £400. So it wasn't a case of being a sore loser.

Has BTG commented on this? I always figured their bonuses were pre determined. Especially the way white rabbit plays I see no way it isnt.

 

[Lemon]

Those comments I made were indeed very genuine. It does feel at times on these feature buy slots that it is all scripted and predetermined the minute you buy that bonus. It happens most of the times. You set off with lots of mega ways on White Rabbit as an example and quelle surprise - no cup cakes to be seen. You need one more cup cake for the retrigger with quite a few spins to go - what a bleeding surprise, it suddenly doesn't hit on the reel with the 11 positions.

I only played these feature buys because I already made a nice profit of £400. So it wasn't a case of being a sore loser.

It's possible that they've done a massive simulation of the bonus, filled a database with the results and then when you buy the feature they just pull one out. You could go one step further and filter out all of the 'presentations' that look contrived in some way, just to improve the experience for the player. Or they could be random after all, and maybe you've just been a bit unlucky with the way the action has unfolded (hence the 'rigged' feeling), in the small sample of bonuses you've played?

There's no way the reels don't change depending on how far you've got or how many cupcakes you need I'll give you that, and I absolutely hate games that do this with a passion. I don't mind subtle differences that you might notice after a period of time, but some of the adjustments to the reels as you progress through a bonus are so severe it's ridiculous.

I played that Hartwell game a few weeks back and the Free Games bonus was atrocious; retrigger more free spins, add another upgrade to the reels such as 4x multiplier and watch those wilds and high-paying symbols suddenly fuck off from the reels for the remainder of the feature. Absolutely no need for it. If you can't afford to pay something without vastly altering the reels, don't fucking do it. VS had a promotion on their site where the person who played the most spins on that game last month won a trip to Vegas to see Hartwell play live. I don't know what is worse; having to play tens of thousands of games on a slot like that, or standing shoulder-to-shoulder in a packed club listening to his dreadful music. Maybe I'm getting old

 

[shadow123]

high-paying symbols suddenly fuck off from the reels for the remainder of the feature

LOL love it

 

[SlotGrinder]

It feels like you should have a fair chance but it's not really fair because the rtp is less than 100%... even just a 4% edge with the 96% rtp means that a lot more often than not you are going to be losing . Of course we all know this but I feel like sometimes our brains are programmed to expect a 100% rtp and anything worse than that feels like we "lost" . Even though if you lost a little bit you probably had average luck since you are supposed to lose a little . And if you ended breakeven for the session .. well you actually got lucky

 

[sufferinsilence]

Anyone who has played slots for a while thought that spins and bonuses weren't predetermined then?

 

[Tourettesguy]

Good slot except when you watch the 50+ predetermined free spin feature you have to restart the slot when it times out waiting for you to press spin button. If you happen to hate watching free spins(?) you can restart the slot after hitting the triggered scatters and the total feature win is already added to balance. Sad most or not all slots work this way but only discuise it more or less good...

 

[trancemonkey]

Anyone who has played slots for a while thought that spins and bonuses weren't predetermined then?

Oh Jeez... another rigged thread. Yay!

 

[SlotGrinder]

Anyone who has played slots for a while thought that spins and bonuses weren't predetermined then?

When you say predetermined , if a slot say has 10 freespins and then quickly simulates those 10 spins and then replays them slowly for the viewer . What is the difference ? I'm not sure of the mechanics how it works ? Does it come up with a total figure and then calculate spins to reach that figure ? Or does it merely simulate the spins internally and then present those spins ?

Picking bonuses where it knows what you are going to win before you pick . I mean , I guess if you believe that you have psychic picking powers then it makes a difference but otherwise , no
We're always at the mercy of what the slot decides to pay us really . The graphics and game are just there for show/entertainment

 

[trancemonkey]

When you say predetermined , if a slot say has 10 freespins and then quickly simulates those 10 spins and then replays them slowly for the viewer . What is the difference ? I'm not sure of the mechanics how it works ? Does it come up with a total figure and then calculate spins to reach that figure ? Or does it merely simulate the spins internally and then present those spins ?

Picking bonuses where it knows what you are going to win before you pick . I mean , I guess if you believe that you have psychic picking powers then it makes a difference but otherwise , no
We're always at the mercy of what the slot decides to pay us really . The graphics and game are just there for show/entertainment

Some providers "determine" the free spins at the point they are won... QuickSpin do this, Blueprint, etc.. They are almost certainly not "picking a value and getting to it" - they are just determining the outcome of all the free games in one go, which makes game recovery much easier.

 

[Gambulaah]

Predetermined slot wins = You're seeing a replay of something that is already decided, even though YOU are seeing it for the first time.

Rigged = Something that is set to screw someone over for the benefit of the casino/different players

Red Tiger has Predetermined slot wins, they do not have rigged slots

 

[trancemonkey]

Predetermined slot wins = You're seeing a replay of something that is already decided, even though YOU are seeing it for the first time.

Rigged = Something that is set to screw someone over for the benefit of the casino/different players

Red Tiger has Predetermined slot wins, they do not have rigged slots

And only in the free games are the spins predetermined.... it's the ONLY place the rules allow it to happen as long as they are determined at the point that they are won, if my understanding is correct

 

[theoldbaker]

Well, tried this for the first time tonight. 140 spins for the first bonus to give me the grand total of x12. 1680 ways. First impressions are if you get this right you'll get a monster pay out but it'll be the usual buh bye bank balance.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Some real money play and my thoughts on this slot:

 

[AnnaTS]

I have tried this slot a few times now in between playing other slots, I have triggered the free spins about 7 - 8 times and only once did the free spins not trigger in the first 100 spins, The bonus that took the longest to trigger actually paid the most and it took about 300 spins and £80 to trigger, All the others have paid 100x or less.

I haven't really played it a lot i usually play until i get one bonus then come off, This is the best result i have had from the free spins.

 

[mack341]

typical of red tiger to do a mega ways style game but strip away the potential for medium to big wins, playing it at coral tonight on 20p and got the bonus, 50 free spins, thought to myself this should be good!

And the end result was £5.60. I know Bonanza has done many evil deeds but I think a 50 spin bonus would give you a lot more than £5.60, also there were no retriggers in 50 spins.

 

[theapple]

no new posts in a while and i dont really see (m)any streamers playing it either. Maybe it wasnt a hit despite its 662095888239 ways to lose?

after playingit a few times i think they made a few big mistakes

1) too many dead spins in free spins
2) too many dead spins in general
3) random features pay around 2x on average
4) too many dead spins in free spins

unlocking 60m ways should pretty much guarantee you a decent win. its just off putting when there are 60m ways to win and you have 18 dead spins followed by 2x wins. Id much rather have 5-10 spins retriggers that are 1 in 2 to hit than 50 spins that are 1 in 20.

tldr: it has 60 millions ways to win, and often gives 100+ free spins with retriggers and yet i feel i have higher chances of winning big on 5 lines merkur slot. It just feels wrong, so to speak

edit: just watched Chopleys video its pretty much spot on and it perfectly reflects my feelings towards this one. its boring. thats it. To make things worse it comes with (in)famous redtiger variance so you arent getting much, if any help from base game either.

 

[shadow123]

Pretty sure this slot has been tweaked, I got a 1500x hit first day and quite a few others posted decent wins
for a few days.Now it seems much harder to get free spins, the 50 spins dont happen and there are
far too many losing free spins.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Pretty sure this slot has been tweaked, I got a 1500x hit first day and quite a few others posted decent wins
for a few days.Now it seems much harder to get free spins, the 50 spins dont happen and there are
far too many losing free spins.

If you ask people, nearly all of the big wins happened on the first play or first few plays without a hit and then since the hit its crap, but its totally random..............and any similarities to compensated games are completely coincidental...........as all online slots are random.

Yeah i know big wooden spoon and tin foil hat time again.......but I can only comment on the pattern i have seen with over 20 players data of this slot.

 

[mack341]

I've just made an executive decision today never to play another red tiger game again, had a nice balance courtesy of raging rhino and opened a new slot called wild diamond, upon the game loading I saw the red tiger logo appear, 'Oh dear' I thought, I'll just try a few spins at 20p. The game took £15 with an rtp of about 25% if that, I shut the game down and thought I know I'll go back to rhino and try to recover the £15. Big mistake, I lost the lot, it was robbing me faster than wild diamond and laser fruit combined .

But overall I blame red tiger more than the rhino, they are worse than netent, probably the reason why all the casinos are flooding their sites with red tiger games

 

[Lemon]

They've rushed it out without playing it enough and getting the gameplay right; the evidence is there for all to see. When you consider the amount of time it would have taken to develop a slot like that it's a real pity. It's possible that they panicked when they found out that Blueprint are getting BTG's Megaways, so hurried it out too quickly. Given the time and effort that they seem to put into the rest of their slots it's really unfortunate that they haven't done this concept the justice it deserves.

 

[Reelsoffun]

I've just made an executive decision today never to play another red tiger game again, had a nice balance courtesy of raging rhino and opened a new slot called wild diamond, upon the game loading I saw the red tiger logo appear, 'Oh dear' I thought, I'll just try a few spins at 20p. The game took £15 with an rtp of about 25% if that, I shut the game down and thought I know I'll go back to rhino and try to recover the £15. Big mistake, I lost the lot, it was robbing me faster than wild diamond and laser fruit combined .

But overall I blame red tiger more than the rhino, they are worse than netent, probably the reason why all the casinos are flooding their sites with red tiger games

Why on earth would you go back to rhino?? I have never understood that, I have played online slots for years and not once and i truly mean that have i ever hit 2 big hits in a row on any game where my RTP has been near to or above the expected RTP ever, so sorry, random my arse! And dont get me started on red tiger games lol

 

[mack341]

Why on earth would you go back to rhino?? I have never understood that, I have played online slots for years and not once and i truly mean that have i ever hit 2 big hits in a row on any game where my RTP has been near to or above the expected RTP ever, so sorry, random my arse! And dont get me started on red tiger games lol

Well I thought I'll just do a few spins and see if I can get a quick bonus, I was being silly trying to get back to my peak balance of £129 [from a £15 deposit]. It made me so angry with myself, I logged out and chased my losses elsewhere, of course this just lead to more losses. So with reluctance I took a step back logged out from the casinos and thank goodness came back on casinomeister, read a post by harry_bkk and regained my sanity. Otherwise things could have gone from bad to worse for me tonight as I would have carried on chasing losses.

 

[shadow123]

Certainly is a potentially good game wasted

 

[sufferinsilence]

Pretty sure this slot has been tweaked, I got a 1500x hit first day and quite a few others posted decent wins
for a few days.Now it seems much harder to get free spins, the 50 spins dont happen and there are
far too many losing free spins.

A rep from Red Tiger came into a streamchat a while ago and said that the first day of the release of this slot they had made a loss on a slot. Says it all I guess

 

[shadow123]

A rep from Red Tiger came into a streamchat a while ago and said that the first day of the release of this slot they had made a loss on a slot. Says it all I guess

Wow for once I might be right

 

[AnnaTS]

I just gave it another go about an hour ago, I was only doing 20p a spin because i only deposited £20, I did get a bonus within the first 100 spins like most of my previous bonuses, Got 50 spins, Then a re trigger for 20, But didn't pay much just over 60 x i got, Most of the time when the expansion things went across the reels they missed, So i didn't get many ways open.

I would say it's still worth a try, Playing in between slots, But i don't usually stay on a slot long, Either i will do 50 - 200 spins or come after getting a bonus which ever happens first, Then move to another Slot.

 

[AnnaTS]

I got another nice bonus on this on Friday and just uploaded it, I did start with a £60 balance and was doing 40p a spin, But when my balance dropped to £20 i changed the bet to 20p a spin, But it's still a nice win, Sorry for the length of the video, I was talking too someone during the free spins and didn't click to stop some of the win count ups.

 

[slotter999]

A rep from Red Tiger came into a streamchat a while ago and said that the first day of the release of this slot they had made a loss on a slot. Says it all I guess

This post puzzles me. How can a provider make a loss on the first day of operation? Sure a casino could....but how so a provider? Please can you explain. Cheers

 

[sufferinsilence]

This post puzzles me. How can a provider make a loss on the first day of operation? Sure a casino could....but how so a provider? Please can you explain. Cheers

I was just quoting what the guy said. But my logical guess is they just saw a "positive RTP" in the stats of the game Which would mean that all casino's offering Red Tiger games combined had made a loss on this slot on the day of release of this particular slot.

 

[mack341]

having played and wasted too much money on the kim and trump rocket men slot at ladbrokes I want to officially rename them brown tiger

The games look polished enough but the base games/paytable are rancid.