Worst slots? (2023 Update)

[jasonuk]

I.mean I don't work for PlayNGo so can't say with 100% authority. But you can see the pre-scripting in the individual rounds. Seasoned players will know the 2 ppssible outcomes of a particular spin before the Princess has performed her in-game enhancement.

The reason why I believe everythjng is tightly scripted from the moment the spin button is pressed, to the Trinity, to the Bonus round, is because the game keeps so tightly to 1000x or less. Never any 'random" outliers for 2500x, for example.

It's a fair assumption - for some of their more elaborate grid slots I assume it'll be scripted from start to end - possibly as a decision tree rather than a linear path, but there's no "clean break" scenarios as there is with Rise of Olympus and Moon Princess... so perhaps it's force of habit for them to script it start to end here also.

Regarding your last point, that's why I considered it in the other direction - before multiplication, five mixed premiums pays 5x, five premiums pay 10x and five wilds pays 50x - for a potential 100x, 200x and 1000x maximum.

Therefore to get to the dizzy heights of 5000x, you would be looking at multiple wild lines or a significant number of five premiums (a full screen would pay 1000-2000x, so you'd need two or three). Two or three lines of premiums happens with some regularity (which is where the 250-750x hits come from), but you would need to witness a jackpot screen at a decent multiplier to get above that.

 

[justdoit]

PlayNGo slots are 100% pre-scripted so, in the example of the infamous Moon Priincess 5000x claim, there will be a jackpot script to award 5000x existing in the tombola.

The issue is that, as PlayNGo state in the docs, it's a billions upon billions to 1 chance. And that there is also virtually nothing in the win plan between 1000x and 5000x, either.

PlayNGo have really lost their way lately. A lot of the 2023 stuff are just unplayable unenjoyable bankroll drainers even on 96% RTP.

And now Pragmatic are jumping on the bandwagon of "100" re-releases started by PlayNGo, so Gates and Starlight Princess are getting 15000x win cap makeovers. Just another way to.empry bankrolls faster.

I like PNG even they script, no extra bets on their slots no bonus buy, I think they only provider fair play for everyone

 

[johnnymcc1966]

I like PNG even they script, no extra bets on their slots no bonus buy, I think they only provider fair play for everyone

Not when they aren't at full RTP. Here in the UK they can be anything from 88% to 96%(increasingly rare.)

 

[jasonuk]

They were one of the front-runners when it came to multiple models - offering 96, 94, 91, 87 and 84. As the head of sales for PnG said in an interview with BigWinBoard shortly after the release of Holiday Spirits (which was late 2020):

For the lower RTP variants (91% and below), if operators use this, it’s usually because they have promotional material or jackpots added on to this. The lowering of RTP won’t impact the gameplay of a slot, and when we do adjust to a lower RTP, we try to do so in a way that will not impact player experience – putting the focus on entertainment and making sure it’s still enjoyable for the player.

Perhaps that's where all the casinos got it from, if a provider will openly mislead about lower RTPs impacting gameplay (it has to impact gameplay by definition - otherwise it would be the same identical game) then the casino can just point to that as expert testimony!

 

[satchnz]

They were one of the front-runners when it came to multiple models - offering 96, 94, 91, 87 and 84. As the head of sales for PnG said in an interview with BigWinBoard shortly after the release of Holiday Spirits (which was late 2020):

Perhaps that's where all the casinos got it from, if a provider will openly mislead about lower RTPs impacting gameplay (it has to impact gameplay by definition - otherwise it would be the same identical game) then the casino can just point to that as expert testimony!

I wonder what their definition of “gameplay” is??

 

[Lemon]

They might be saying that the overall hit rate is exactly the same across all RTP% options (and hence, the 'gameplay') but the win values are smaller when you get them. Easily done by switching symbols around on a reelset, like swapping all instances of A for K and vice-versa, assuming each symbol has a different award value and distribution, and therefore percentage contribution. Or have two reelsets with the exactly the same hit rate but wildly different RTP% and change the weighting between the two.

Either way it's a pretty ridiculous statement to make.

 

[electronictonic]

Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.

 

[satchnz]

Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.

Not to forget their RTP model on all new games is 94% only. Terrible industry precedent to set for us players…

 

[jasonuk]

Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.

Agreed, I liked some of their earlier stuff (it didn't feel particularly scripted, even if it was) but while their latest offerings look really good, they are particularly unappetising in playstyle - far too blatant "just missed" behaviour. Funny enough, I could say the same about NLC - I loved Wixx, yet their modern stuff makes paint drying look enjoyable (because you have to play them as bonus buys).

If you go to their website, you can play with x-citer (should see xdm=1 in the URL) and it's surprising how flat those super bonuses can be - talk about 10000x, 25000x or 50000x and in one hundred super bonuses you might be lucky to see 5x (=2500x base) once.

 

[Sirbigwin]

Every slot sucks when they've turned the switches off. They've been diabolical last few weeks!

If we're talking generally though... Max Megaways 2 is one of the most boring rinsers i've played

 

[flyerskyangle]

All slots games sucks, all sh”t nowadays became games providers, PragramticPlay,PlayNgo,Relax,etc, 10000 spins to get 10x bonus, absolutely they win.

 

[Savatage79]

Well what's amazing about reading these posts is that I have dabbled with alot of the aforementioned slots and I agree.... Absolute fn garbage, all of them.. But the irony is this... People poke fun and laugh at US measly offerings of RTG slots and I gotta say I cash thousands fairly regularly. just the last few weeks won a jackpot for 6700, won another 1500, won 1200 last night, earlier in the month cashed 3000 a few times, hit for almost 9000 about 2 months ago... I take screens all the time of all my big cashouts and hits. And while I don't have some mega 30 to 40k hit.. I've cashed well over 6 figures in recent years.

So I guess it isn't so bad playing RTG.

I put in alot at stake and it's bad when a big hit is 5 bucks. I sit and always think how the sites that cater to US players typically get no love, they end up being pretty fun and lucrative.

I have tried with the money train games, moon princess, a ton of the no limit city games, pragmatic, hacksaw... I think once I cashed when chaos crew hit for me a bit but that was it.

What sucks Is theyre good looking games and have fun bonus rounds but they all do nothing. I'll toss a few screens of recent wins tho. The one with the 7s was an 8000+ hit didn't get the actual number when it popped up.

But yea these are just a few in the last couple months, and it's been this way for years for me... Sometimes it goes a little dry for a couple weeks but it's pretty consistent.

 

[dave1888]

Anything by Red Tiger, Elk, Quickspin to name just a few.

Most post 2020.

The trick to red tiger is avoid the jackpot versions. As for quickspin Eastern Emeralds, ticket to the stars and Mayana are all fairly decent. Quite old slots now but, saw them all payout.

 

[dave1888]

Lol because on the odd chance when they are on....They are on ! To bad the casino host wasn't On top of there game but old news now

375£ spins if they can afford to bet that 33 grand won’t be much to them.

 

[Minxxx]

375£ spins if they can afford to bet that 33 grand won’t be much to them.

This has never ever happened to me the entire time I've been playing at online casinos It wasn't a flat out $375 bet I worked my way upto this on a game I was playing. It almost seemed like there was a glitch or something wrong with the game to be fair or maybe it was just luck who knows but my end balance $150.000 got confiscated put it that way

 

[Minxxx]

375£ spins if they can afford to bet that 33 grand won’t be much to them.

This has never ever happened to me the entire time I've been playing at online casinos It wasn't a flat out $375 bet I worked my way upto this on a game I was playing. It almost seemed like there was a glitch or something wrong with the game to be fair or maybe it was just luck who knows but my end balance $150.000 got confiscated put it that way

 

[flyerskyangle]

Any

Well what's amazing about reading these posts is that I have dabbled with alot of the aforementioned slots and I agree.... Absolute fn garbage, all of them.. But the irony is this... People poke fun and laugh at US measly offerings of RTG slots and I gotta say I cash thousands fairly regularly. just the last few weeks won a jackpot for 6700, won another 1500, won 1200 last night, earlier in the month cashed 3000 a few times, hit for almost 9000 about 2 months ago... I take screens all the time of all my big cashouts and hits. And while I don't have some mega 30 to 40k hit.. I've cashed well over 6 figures in recent years.

So I guess it isn't so bad playing RTG.

I put in alot at stake and it's bad when a big hit is 5 bucks. I sit and always think how the sites that cater to US players typically get no love, they end up being pretty fun and lucrative.

I have tried with the money train games, moon princess, a ton of the no limit city games, pragmatic, hacksaw... I think once I cashed when chaos crew hit for me a bit but that was it.

What sucks Is theyre good looking games and have fun bonus rounds but they all do nothing. I'll toss a few screens of recent wins tho. The one with the 7s was an 8000+ hit didn't get the actual number when it popped up.

But yea these are just a few in the last couple months, and it's been this way for years for me... Sometimes it goes a little dry for a couple weeks but it's pretty consistent.

Any RTG Casinos recommend? Maybe give it a try.

Not everyone laugh at RTG, I think who guys laughed at games were either fuxking poor affiliate men or shlt providers because we lose they win. We real money players only care win or lose.

As nowadays tons of streamers promote shit games and providers on YouTube or any other sites.

We real money players all know that.

 

[Chesslover27]

Am not a fan at all

 

[Savatage79]

Any

Any RTG Casinos recommend? Maybe give it a try.

Not everyone laugh at RTG, I think who guys laughed at games were either fuxking poor affiliate men or shlt providers because we lose they win. We real money players only care win or lose.

As nowadays tons of streamers promote shit games and providers on YouTube or any other sites.

We real money players all know that.

For me honestly it's slotocash. I have won there I sometimes feel like they might tell me to get lost lol no lie... The games just do well overall. The thing is it's not like they just hit on command but when you sorta feel the games out u can know when a bonus is coming, they don't go super long without bonus rounds.

That's what I don't like about when I play anything on stake... I can't feel those games out for anything. You can easily go hundreds of spins without a bonus round and rtg slots are much better in that regard.

Whats funny is literally about a day or so after I made that post above I did this...

Nova 7s is one of the best games ever imo for consistency.

When I posted above that goldbeard jackpot, that was about 2 weeks ago. Since then I have won a total of about 15,000.


Earlier in the year I won a 13k jackpot, and a day later 6000 on novas again. And many many 1500 to 3k cashouts in between.

Its good to see not everyone laughs at rtg tho, they have some good games... Like I said I haven't hit for no 40k on a feature but I'll happily take a more consistent run on these types of cashouts. I do pretty well overall, endless screenshots of these type of hits had many down moments also but overall it's positive.

 

[Axlthomas79]

Dynamite riches ! Awful slot. Was having a few (too many) drinks one night, about a year ago. I slapped a tenner on for low stakes, and it was one of those nights when every slot I went on was being generous with bonuses or decent base hits. I got up to £300 and then found this game. I saw that collecting wilds unlocked special features and got carried away, kept spinning and spinning then suddenly noticed I only had £11 left . Never got the free spins. I’ve tried it a few times since and still never had them.

 

[jasonuk]

Dynamite riches ! Awful slot.

Red Tiger are notoriously lumpy with their slots, and many of them - as you've discovered - have some stored value trap or hook to keep you playing (including the Daily Jackpot mechanic - many of their slots are deployed at 90-91% base RTP)

A particular annoyance for me given they seem to be destroying the NetEnt catalogue with ill-conceived megaways reboots, I would say I've seen one that I would consider faithful to the original! So you have this weird abyss where you have rebooted slots that have increased the maximum prize 10x, 25x, 50x or more, for game designs that can't handle that level of variance without fundamentally breaking the original game design (which is what they did) and have to be controlled to excess which makes them even lumpier and less playable.

Furthermore, operators are using this as cover to start removing the original (and higher RTP) versions from their sites - WH have been doing this by the hundred, but I've noticed LeoVegas have started doing the same

 

[slot_zombie]

Talking of Red Tiger, I cannot forgive that awful Bloodsuckers reboot they did a few months ago - +97% RTP at max settings, and a total dog to play, even at that % payout.

The original was such an iconic and fun (albeit simple) game. I still load it up from time to time and try it on higher stakes.

 

[Chesslover27]

Winnings plenty

 

[EkJR]

Gigajar its a tilt machine put 50 spins through with the extra bet and didn't see the second jar once considering it often doesn't hit anything after that either is rather shite.

Oh and Tome of Madness how they state the max win is 2000x I have no idea seems like a 1 in a 10 trillion event for that to happen. I've had a 800x on it and never seen evidence of anything higher than 1000x.

Tome of Madness...wow...one of the most tilting games in history. Need one hit have books down and the extra books, puts each one in corners where you can't win. It does this a hundred times over. Most I have ever seen from the game is 420X. No idea how you can even get 1000X

 

[Gavashy]

Btg are shocking imo and that new game wild unicorns is shocking.