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Worst slots? (2023 Update)

I.mean I don't work for PlayNGo so can't say with 100% authority. But you can see the pre-scripting in the individual rounds. Seasoned players will know the 2 ppssible outcomes of a particular spin before the Princess has performed her in-game enhancement.

The reason why I believe everythjng is tightly scripted from the moment the spin button is pressed, to the Trinity, to the Bonus round, is because the game keeps so tightly to 1000x or less. Never any 'random" outliers for 2500x, for example.
It's a fair assumption - for some of their more elaborate grid slots I assume it'll be scripted from start to end - possibly as a decision tree rather than a linear path, but there's no "clean break" scenarios as there is with Rise of Olympus and Moon Princess... so perhaps it's force of habit for them to script it start to end here also.

Regarding your last point, that's why I considered it in the other direction - before multiplication, five mixed premiums pays 5x, five premiums pay 10x and five wilds pays 50x - for a potential 100x, 200x and 1000x maximum.

Therefore to get to the dizzy heights of 5000x, you would be looking at multiple wild lines or a significant number of five premiums (a full screen would pay 1000-2000x, so you'd need two or three). Two or three lines of premiums happens with some regularity (which is where the 250-750x hits come from), but you would need to witness a jackpot screen at a decent multiplier to get above that.
 
PlayNGo slots are 100% pre-scripted so, in the example of the infamous Moon Priincess 5000x claim, there will be a jackpot script to award 5000x existing in the tombola.

The issue is that, as PlayNGo state in the docs, it's a billions upon billions to 1 chance. And that there is also virtually nothing in the win plan between 1000x and 5000x, either.

PlayNGo have really lost their way lately. A lot of the 2023 stuff are just unplayable unenjoyable bankroll drainers even on 96% RTP.

And now Pragmatic are jumping on the bandwagon of "100" re-releases started by PlayNGo, so Gates and Starlight Princess are getting 15000x win cap makeovers. Just another way to.empry bankrolls faster.
I like PNG even they script, no extra bets on their slots no bonus buy, I think they only provider fair play for everyone
 
They were one of the front-runners when it came to multiple models - offering 96, 94, 91, 87 and 84. As the head of sales for PnG said in an interview with BigWinBoard shortly after the release of Holiday Spirits (which was late 2020):
For the lower RTP variants (91% and below), if operators use this, it’s usually because they have promotional material or jackpots added on to this. The lowering of RTP won’t impact the gameplay of a slot, and when we do adjust to a lower RTP, we try to do so in a way that will not impact player experience – putting the focus on entertainment and making sure it’s still enjoyable for the player.
Perhaps that's where all the casinos got it from, if a provider will openly mislead about lower RTPs impacting gameplay (it has to impact gameplay by definition - otherwise it would be the same identical game) then the casino can just point to that as expert testimony!
 
They were one of the front-runners when it came to multiple models - offering 96, 94, 91, 87 and 84. As the head of sales for PnG said in an interview with BigWinBoard shortly after the release of Holiday Spirits (which was late 2020):

Perhaps that's where all the casinos got it from, if a provider will openly mislead about lower RTPs impacting gameplay (it has to impact gameplay by definition - otherwise it would be the same identical game) then the casino can just point to that as expert testimony!
I wonder what their definition of “gameplay” is??
 
They might be saying that the overall hit rate is exactly the same across all RTP% options (and hence, the 'gameplay') but the win values are smaller when you get them. Easily done by switching symbols around on a reelset, like swapping all instances of A for K and vice-versa, assuming each symbol has a different award value and distribution, and therefore percentage contribution. Or have two reelsets with the exactly the same hit rate but wildly different RTP% and change the weighting between the two.

Either way it's a pretty ridiculous statement to make.
 
Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.
 
Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.
Not to forget their RTP model on all new games is 94% only. Terrible industry precedent to set for us players…
 
Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.
Agreed, I liked some of their earlier stuff (it didn't feel particularly scripted, even if it was) but while their latest offerings look really good, they are particularly unappetising in playstyle - far too blatant "just missed" behaviour. Funny enough, I could say the same about NLC - I loved Wixx, yet their modern stuff makes paint drying look enjoyable (because you have to play them as bonus buys).

If you go to their website, you can play with x-citer (should see xdm=1 in the URL) and it's surprising how flat those super bonuses can be - talk about 10000x, 25000x or 50000x and in one hundred super bonuses you might be lucky to see 5x (=2500x base) once.
 
All slots games sucks, all sh”t nowadays became games providers, PragramticPlay,PlayNgo,Relax,etc, 10000 spins to get 10x bonus, absolutely they win.
 
Well what's amazing about reading these posts is that I have dabbled with alot of the aforementioned slots and I agree.... Absolute fn garbage, all of them.. But the irony is this... People poke fun and laugh at US measly offerings of RTG slots and I gotta say I cash thousands fairly regularly. just the last few weeks won a jackpot for 6700, won another 1500, won 1200 last night, earlier in the month cashed 3000 a few times, hit for almost 9000 about 2 months ago... I take screens all the time of all my big cashouts and hits. And while I don't have some mega 30 to 40k hit.. I've cashed well over 6 figures in recent years.

So I guess it isn't so bad playing RTG.

I put in alot at stake and it's bad when a big hit is 5 bucks. I sit and always think how the sites that cater to US players typically get no love, they end up being pretty fun and lucrative.

I have tried with the money train games, moon princess, a ton of the no limit city games, pragmatic, hacksaw... I think once I cashed when chaos crew hit for me a bit but that was it.

What sucks Is theyre good looking games and have fun bonus rounds but they all do nothing. I'll toss a few screens of recent wins tho. The one with the 7s was an 8000+ hit didn't get the actual number when it popped up.

But yea these are just a few in the last couple months, and it's been this way for years for me... Sometimes it goes a little dry for a couple weeks but it's pretty consistent.
 

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375£ spins ? if they can afford to bet that 33 grand won’t be much to them.
This has never ever happened to me the entire time I've been playing at online casinos It wasn't a flat out $375 bet I worked my way upto this on a game I was playing. It almost seemed like there was a glitch or something wrong with the game to be fair or maybe it was just luck who knows but my end balance $150.000 got confiscated put it that way
 
375£ spins ? if they can afford to bet that 33 grand won’t be much to them.
This has never ever happened to me the entire time I've been playing at online casinos It wasn't a flat out $375 bet I worked my way upto this on a game I was playing. It almost seemed like there was a glitch or something wrong with the game to be fair or maybe it was just luck who knows but my end balance $150.000 got confiscated put it that way
 
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Well what's amazing about reading these posts is that I have dabbled with alot of the aforementioned slots and I agree.... Absolute fn garbage, all of them.. But the irony is this... People poke fun and laugh at US measly offerings of RTG slots and I gotta say I cash thousands fairly regularly. just the last few weeks won a jackpot for 6700, won another 1500, won 1200 last night, earlier in the month cashed 3000 a few times, hit for almost 9000 about 2 months ago... I take screens all the time of all my big cashouts and hits. And while I don't have some mega 30 to 40k hit.. I've cashed well over 6 figures in recent years.

So I guess it isn't so bad playing RTG.

I put in alot at stake and it's bad when a big hit is 5 bucks. I sit and always think how the sites that cater to US players typically get no love, they end up being pretty fun and lucrative.

I have tried with the money train games, moon princess, a ton of the no limit city games, pragmatic, hacksaw... I think once I cashed when chaos crew hit for me a bit but that was it.

What sucks Is theyre good looking games and have fun bonus rounds but they all do nothing. I'll toss a few screens of recent wins tho. The one with the 7s was an 8000+ hit didn't get the actual number when it popped up.

But yea these are just a few in the last couple months, and it's been this way for years for me... Sometimes it goes a little dry for a couple weeks but it's pretty consistent.
Any RTG Casinos recommend? Maybe give it a try.

Not everyone laugh at RTG, I think who guys laughed at games were either fuxking poor affiliate men or shlt providers because we lose they win. We real money players only care win or lose.

As nowadays tons of streamers promote shit games and providers on YouTube or any other sites.

We real money players all know that.
 
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Any RTG Casinos recommend? Maybe give it a try.

Not everyone laugh at RTG, I think who guys laughed at games were either fuxking poor affiliate men or shlt providers because we lose they win. We real money players only care win or lose.

As nowadays tons of streamers promote shit games and providers on YouTube or any other sites.

We real money players all know that.
For me honestly it's slotocash. I have won there I sometimes feel like they might tell me to get lost lol no lie... The games just do well overall. The thing is it's not like they just hit on command but when you sorta feel the games out u can know when a bonus is coming, they don't go super long without bonus rounds.

That's what I don't like about when I play anything on stake... I can't feel those games out for anything. You can easily go hundreds of spins without a bonus round and rtg slots are much better in that regard.

Whats funny is literally about a day or so after I made that post above I did this...

Nova 7s is one of the best games ever imo for consistency.

When I posted above that goldbeard jackpot, that was about 2 weeks ago. Since then I have won a total of about 15,000.


Earlier in the year I won a 13k jackpot, and a day later 6000 on novas again. And many many 1500 to 3k cashouts in between.

Its good to see not everyone laughs at rtg tho, they have some good games... Like I said I haven't hit for no 40k on a feature but I'll happily take a more consistent run on these types of cashouts. I do pretty well overall, endless screenshots of these type of hits ? had many down moments also but overall it's positive.
 

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Dynamite riches ! Awful slot. Was having a few (too many) drinks one night, about a year ago. I slapped a tenner on for low stakes, and it was one of those nights when every slot I went on was being generous with bonuses or decent base hits. I got up to £300 and then found this game. I saw that collecting wilds unlocked special features and got carried away, kept spinning and spinning then suddenly noticed I only had £11 left ?????. Never got the free spins. I’ve tried it a few times since and still never had them.
 
Dynamite riches ! Awful slot.
Red Tiger are notoriously lumpy with their slots, and many of them - as you've discovered - have some stored value trap or hook to keep you playing (including the Daily Jackpot mechanic - many of their slots are deployed at 90-91% base RTP)

A particular annoyance for me given they seem to be destroying the NetEnt catalogue with ill-conceived megaways reboots, I would say I've seen one that I would consider faithful to the original! So you have this weird abyss where you have rebooted slots that have increased the maximum prize 10x, 25x, 50x or more, for game designs that can't handle that level of variance without fundamentally breaking the original game design (which is what they did) and have to be controlled to excess which makes them even lumpier and less playable.

Furthermore, operators are using this as cover to start removing the original (and higher RTP) versions from their sites - WH have been doing this by the hundred, but I've noticed LeoVegas have started doing the same ?
 
Gigajar its a tilt machine put 50 spins through with the extra bet and didn't see the second jar once considering it often doesn't hit anything after that either is rather shite.

Oh and Tome of Madness how they state the max win is 2000x I have no idea seems like a 1 in a 10 trillion event for that to happen. I've had a 800x on it and never seen evidence of anything higher than 1000x.
Tome of Madness...wow...one of the most tilting games in history. Need one hit have books down and the extra books, puts each one in corners where you can't win. It does this a hundred times over. Most I have ever seen from the game is 420X. No idea how you can even get 1000X
 
Any of those fricking stupid "Slice" games... :mad:

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These ? paid me handsomely a few weeks back. Very start of October. If you grind it at low stakes then raise when it hits a few in a row often ? its streaky have to time it well..
 

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Not that uncommon with only 50 game rounds on a high variance slot.
I was thinking the same - I've seen 50 dead spins on ultra-high variance slots as well.

I guess people have to appreciate what the slot is intended for, if it's heavily focused on bonus buys then the base game is essentially window dressing as a pre-gamble... I doubt we'd have an answer but I wonder what the worst slot for that is... e.g. 10% RTP in the base, 85% in the bonus.

The problem is they can't follow the FOBTs with the pre-gamble (premium play) because it makes it far too obvious how bad the game really is - those can munch £300 or more for one trigger (worth £50, and more than capable of paying close to nothing) and seeing "bonus: 1 in 1000 spins" would rightly make people run a mile...
 
My surprise is from it only paying 7p out of £10 worth of spins.

I guess part of the issue is the dream drop which they seem intent on merging into their older games it contributes 8% of the RTP.

While this game is 94% -8% I'm playing a 86% game with a terrible base so I probably deserved it haha.
 
Mega Moolah - despite the hefty 8% contributions - got it right because the base games were medium to high variance (the now retired The Dark Knight probably the spiciest of the lot, and that was more than capable of rinsing a balance). When they nerfed it, they left the base games alone and dropped the JP from 8% to 5% instead (so now 88+5%).

Very high and extreme volatility games will happily give you a kicking at 96%, so it's scary to think what they'll be like at 84-86%... given how the jackpots are designed you're playing essentially a 90% game most of the time unless you are somewhere near the must-drop for either of the big jackpots... which makes it prime value hunting for the monopoly money streamers and genuine high rollers.

I don't think they publish the RTP distribution of the Dream Drop (although it has been quoted as high as 12% for newer games), so unfortunately we don't have those details to hand.
 
Not often do I feel compelled to tarnish the forum with my game complaints nowadays but this one had me less than impressed in so many ways.

Besides the classic film being one of my favourites, along with Gene Wilder, this abomination from Light & Wonder feels cheap and uncheerful. Has anyone else suffered it yet?

The game is not fluid, the reel motion is clunky, and the animated Oompah Loompas seem strangely out of proportion to the background (yes, I know they are small :D ).

For such a legendary conversion, the game doesn't feel polished or well-executed. The base game features are bland and the paytable is weak unless you get a completely full screen of premium symbols across its kazillion reels.

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The game is not fluid, the reel motion is clunky, and the animated Oompah Loompas seem strangely out of proportion to the background (yes, I know they are small :D ).

For such a legendary conversion, the game doesn't feel polished or well-executed. The base game features are bland and the paytable is weak unless you get a completely full screen of premium symbols across its kazillion reels.

This was a slot I was genuinely interested to see launch, given it's a highly-regarded Vegas slot.

Sadly that enthusiasm quickly vanished as LnW have blundered it once again - the ongoing problems with clunky spins (remembering how well WMS slots flowed back in the day... it's incredible how they continue to get this so wrong), some of the poorly integrated graphics, and then the biggest problems are that the features from the Vegas version are missing, or completely trashed:
  • The chocolate river is entirely pre-determined (as mentioned in the rules), there is no notion of "volatility" or picking.
  • The expanded reels is disgusting because it actually tricks you - in the Vegas version if the game expands to 10 reels it'll give you 3 arrays of 6 (spanning 1-6, 3-8 and 4-10), however in this version the arrays shrink and they don't overlap at all (so you get 2 arrays of 5, or 3 arrays of 4). Additionally it offers a fixed multiplier of 2x rather than 1-10x.
    • So a mythical full screen of wilds on all 3 arrays, you would be expecting 3 arrays x 25 lines x 2 multiplier x Six Wilds (2x) - a respectable 300x for a modest variance slot, however you'll be somewhat confused when you only see 75x credited (Four Wilds paying 0.5x instead).
  • The golden ticket seems underwhelming - I don't expect it to be a significant amount of RTP, but 500x seems like another blunder when the Vegas version is $5000 flat.
I don't actually mind lower pays on the reels (the best 6OAK is only 2x though - which is extremely low; on the Vegas version I think it's even lower?) because the features are supposed to be frequent and wild-heavy - sadly something else that seems to have been lost in this conversion.

[edit: correction to payouts - mistakenly claimed Six Wilds pays 8x, when it pays 2x]
 
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This was a slot I was genuinely interested to see launch, given it's a highly-regarded Vegas slot.

Sadly that enthusiasm quickly vanished as LnW have blundered it once again - the ongoing problems with clunky spins (remembering how well WMS slots flowed back in the day... it's incredible how they continue to get this so wrong), some of the poorly integrated graphics, and then the biggest problems are that the features from the Vegas version are missing, or completely trashed:
  • The chocolate river is entirely pre-determined (as mentioned in the rules), there is no notion of "volatility" or picking.
  • The expanded reels is disgusting because it actually tricks you - in the Vegas version if the game expands to 10 reels it'll give you 3 arrays of 6 (spanning 1-6, 3-8 and 4-10), however in this version the arrays shrink and they don't overlap at all (so you get 2 arrays of 5, or 3 arrays of 4). Additionally it offers a fixed multiplier of 2x rather than 1-10x.
    • So a mythical full screen of wilds on all 3 arrays, you would be expecting 3 arrays x 25 lines x 2 multiplier x Six Wilds (2x) - a respectable 300x for a modest variance slot, however you'll be somewhat confused when you only see 75x credited (Four Wilds paying 0.5x instead).
  • The golden ticket seems underwhelming - I don't expect it to be a significant amount of RTP, but 500x seems like another blunder when the Vegas version is $5000 flat.
I don't actually mind lower pays on the reels (the best 6OAK is only 2x though - which is extremely low; on the Vegas version I think it's even lower?) because the features are supposed to be frequent and wild-heavy - sadly something else that seems to have been lost in this conversion.

[edit: correction to payouts - mistakenly claimed Six Wilds pays 8x, when it pays 2x]

Didn't know there was a machine version. Sounds better. Interesting comparison. Needless to say, I won't be touching it again.
 
It's a real shame because the Vegas version did so well they've made at least one sequel.

Handily I found a video that shows the World of Wonka WMS help (over many many pages) and that suggests that the best result would be 4 arrays x 6 high (35 lines?) x 10x multiplier x 6 Wonkas (2.0x) for 2800x...

So you can imagine people will be pissed when they get that dream scenario (3 arrays rather than 4, and doesn't expand vertically), and it's not even 280x, but 75x...

I wonder if it is hard-capped at 500x (from the Golden Ticket) - basically a Wonder Blunder 500 slot but without the name tag.
 
I too was interested in Wonka because it's quite a long time (to my knowledge) that L&W have attempted a conversion of one of their Vegas slots.

God forbid they would ever design to convert any of the remaining (extensive) classic WMS back catalogue.. gripe gripe.

They really need to scrap their game engine and start again from scratch, even the low tier providers are mostly hitting the bar of smooth gameplay and animation in 2023. Take a leaf out of Pragmatic's book perhaps.

The game data states the max win possible is 1030.5x so it's completely pointless even dissecting the gameplay any further. A complete waste of bandwidth. They haven't got a clue.

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They really need to scrap their game engine and start again from scratch, even the low tier providers are mostly hitting the bar of smooth gameplay and animation in 2023. Take a leaf out of Pragmatic's book perhaps.
Well, Pragmatic got autoplay banned... so perhaps not that book ? It is bizarre how many headline providers struggled with the conversion though - SG/LnW continue to have extensive problems, Microgaming required multiple shots at it, NetEnt abandoned half of their catalogue instead - Playtech or IGT is the closest I can think of to a smooth experience, with some caveats.

The game data states the max win possible is 1030.5x so it's completely pointless even dissecting the gameplay any further. A complete waste of bandwidth. They haven't got a clue.
Thanks for that... so the maximum pay is a fraction of the land-based version, which is already modest variance given the target audience. It makes no sense to tone it down even further? Even worse is having looked at the pay table I think 100x wins are going to be unusually rare... I respect SG/LnW haven't followed everyone else pushing insane variance, but making Starburst look volatile is equally bad! ?
 
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Eye of Horus-only played it because of free spins on William Hill. Chased the bonus with my own money like an idiot-and lost about £300 total on £1 spins, VERY quickly.

Just went and had another go and actually got a bonus round super quick on a £2 stake, it paid out wait for it...£7 :mad: Don't even understand how the bonus works tbh, doesn't seem to pay out much over the base game?
 
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Eye of Horus is basically a clone of Pharaoh's Tomb (from Novomatic).

In the bonus, the objective is to get expanding wilds - which will upgrade the symbols (left to right, one per wild) and award extra spins (1 spin for one, 3 spins for two and 5 spins for three). Additionally you can retrigger with 3 scatters for a further 12 spins.

It can get spicy if you get to the top level with a number of spins remaining (pays 50x per full line, 500x for the full screen; and enjoyable with the Novomatic music) - but of course if the wilds aren't landing, you could end up with peanuts or even zero because you are relying on the base mathematics of the game with few or no upgrades.

Or you can be me a few years ago... 9 spins for the top level and paid nothing on those spins ?- but that is the nature of the game, can't argue with the mathematics.
 
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Eye of Horus is basically a clone of Pharaoh's Tomb (from Novomatic).
Or vica versa? Never really managed to find out but my gut feeling says that pharaoh's tomb is a copy of eye of horus.
 
Or vica versa? Never really managed to find out but my gut feeling says that pharaoh's tomb is a copy of eye of horus.
Admittedly it's easy to get confused when so many reviews get it wrong - including the one on CM which refers to Eye of Horus as "one of the pioneers of the genre" which it isn't.

Pharaoh's Tomb (Novomatic) predates the original Eye of Horus by more than six years - June 2010 vs September 2016. The paytable is identical but the RTP of the clone can be slightly higher - 95.08% for the original, up to 96.31% for the clone.

Similar to Book of Ra, other providers (PlayNGo in that case, Blueprint in this case) made more of the opportunity by pushing it in territories that Novomatic didn't operate in. While Aristocrat is likely the most cloned provider out there, I reckon Novomatic is second.
 
Pharaoh's Tomb (Novomatic) predates the original Eye of Horus by more than six years - June 2010 vs September 2016. The paytable is identical but the RTP of the clone can be slightly higher - 95.08% for the original, up to 96.31% for the clone.
That's cabinets right or interactive?
 
That's cabinets right or interactive?
The dates were for online release.

We were still seeing the transition from AWPs to Randoms so it's unlikely that Blueprint would have had a big enough cabinet footprint to justify a physical-only release six years prior. Similarly Novomatic had a substantial cabinet footprint so it's possible the game was released there prior to 2010 (but can't find any information to confirm or deny)
 
Blueprint would have had a big enough cabinet footprint to justify
Think we need to have a look at merkur in that case, pretty sure merkur rolled out this game WAY before Blueprint was even in the picture. But im not on topic atm ;) I know the creative director for landbased at Novo, going to ask him if he knows and will PM you later.
 
Think we need to have a look at merkur in that case, pretty sure merkur rolled out this game WAY before Blueprint was even in the picture. But im not on topic atm ;) I know the creative director for landbased at Novo, going to ask him if he knows and will PM you later.
Yeah, but Blueprint and Merkur are both Gauselmann group companies so there will be overlap with games.
 
Not often do I feel compelled to tarnish the forum with my game complaints nowadays but this one had me less than impressed in so many ways.

Besides the classic film being one of my favourites, along with Gene Wilder, this abomination from Light & Wonder feels cheap and uncheerful. Has anyone else suffered it yet?

The game is not fluid, the reel motion is clunky, and the animated Oompah Loompas seem strangely out of proportion to the background (yes, I know they are small :D ).

For such a legendary conversion, the game doesn't feel polished or well-executed. The base game features are bland and the paytable is weak unless you get a completely full screen of premium symbols across its kazillion reels.

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I played this and was like 'yeah, ok - this is low variance drizzle just for nostalgia sake with maybe one or two good hits on the paytable..probably never see it, but decided to go for this wild feature in your screenshot..played it for hours, and finally got a decent one (or so i thought) which honestly had the first 5 reels filled with all wilds... barely breached 100x

Theres a lot of drizzle on the market these days, for sure, but that is nothing new, of course: my biggest pet peeve it with all the extra bet BS and also the ones where you have to basically gamble the bonus to upgrade to full potential...

Not all of them, but some feel like there's no chance of max win without using those options? Which i dont like.
 
Eye of Horus is basically a clone of Pharaoh's Tomb (from Novomatic).

In the bonus, the objective is to get expanding wilds - which will upgrade the symbols (left to right, one per wild) and award extra spins (1 spin for one, 3 spins for two and 5 spins for three). Additionally you can retrigger with 3 scatters for a further 12 spins.

It can get spicy if you get to the top level with a number of spins remaining (pays 50x per full line, 500x for the full screen; and enjoyable with the Novomatic music) - but of course if the wilds aren't landing, you could end up with peanuts or even zero because you are relying on the base mathematics of the game with few or no upgrades.

Or you can be me a few years ago... 9 spins for the top level and paid nothing on those spins ?- but that is the nature of the game, can't argue with the mathematics.
Ahh ok, I think I did get it I just haven't hit a good bonus round yet so I'm just like "is that it?" every time. Gonna have another go on it again, but only on the demo version cos I do tend to chase bonuses and it looks like they're not that often in this game. I should give it a chance, but it was eating my balance quicker than anything the other night lol.
 
Anything by Elk the most scripted bonuses of any provider, the same 99.9% of the time,10 spins the first 5 or 6 dead spins 1 average hit that pays something then another 3 dead spins, the last spin is always a dead one, 5 spin bonus Pirots etc 3 or 4 dead spins in a row 1 hit and done.
Pirots is the most scripted bonus of any of the slots I’ve ever played. Elk bonuses are pretty much all the same, but that one takes the piss
 
Which slots are you considering shit? And will never touch again?
Myself decided to try some Money Cart 3.

It payed sooo badly. Pretty easy to get into a bonus, but they pay like 2-8 X all the time. And usually takes 15 spins + to get into.
You might think as i did in the beginning that it would pay in X during the bonus game. But no... it payed in coins.
Got a persistant symbol one time, it payed 188 coins in total after that round. which gave me around 3 dollars(bet 0.2 Euro).

When bonus round was finnished i had 55 dead spins before next bonus.

Have anyone actually won anything on this slot?
I've demo played it aswell ALOOOT, and it never gives anything but eating balance. never gone plus on it even on demo mode.

This is my shit slot for now, will never touch it again. I think going for the real money train 3 is a better option.
STAY AWAY!
 

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