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Just a shout out that I stand by my Ukrainian members in their time of trouble. What a freaking mess - it's really a despicable situation. My thoughts are with you - I really support these folks who desire sovereignty and a democratic nation over a iron-fisted dictatorship.

Putin is clearly on the wrong side of history with this one. What a f*&^twat.
 

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You mean, and here is a video explaining why Putin is justified invading a sovereign country because that is how it sounded to me. It is akin to saying let's go and gas some people because Hitler did it so there you have it.
 

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I don't think he is trying to justify anything but that video has a lot of very valid points and all our western leaders are just as dodgy if not dodgier themselves (the past 2 years of COVID and not giving a crap about their own populations should wake a lot of people up).

In the end its just a big game to the elite who will profit from it while the rest of us human beings around the world suffer the consequences :mad:
 

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Mad Vlad is nothing but a deluded, paranoid bully. One can only hope that some of his inner circle have the courage to empty their Makarovs into his head. There are no winners in this situation.
 

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Why watch a youtube wannabe video about Putin invading Ukraine? :puke:

Just watch real news media, or even read about it.
The news media pushing propaganda to whip folk into a fear and hate frenzy?

Staged. She is not a journalist

The below lady is a World Economic Forum Young Leader Just as Putin,Trudeau and Macron are and she was used in the Biden political campaign.








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Rarely is there justification for any sort of military incursions, these things often hinge on the decisions of a few idealists and their skewed worldview, and because they've convinced themselves their actions are justifiable.

But apart from the needless bloodshed and resultant years of suffering this has brought about, is the incessant propaganda pieces flung about by the world's media, it's actually aggravating at this point.

Take for example the 'Ghost of Kyiv', who supposedly shot down about six Russian fighters, but turns out to be taken from a video game? :what:

Or the 13 soldiers stationed on Snake Island, that told a Russian warship to "Go f*** themselves" before dying a 'heroic' death and be given full honours, only to be, as it turned out, not killed, but captured?

Or the bloodied and bandaged woman paraded in front of a crumpled tower block to the world, only to find out that was from years prior?

The Russian soldier writing his mum a poignant farewell note, stating that that they've been ordered to take out schools, hospitals and 'even the civilians'? Badly translated? Who writes like that?

Hard to glean any semblance of what's truly going on, unless one was to actually be there in the thick of it. Our media seems to run with every story for cheap sensationalism, but then that's just what they do, after all....
 

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Rarely is there justification for any sort of military incursions, these things often hinge on the decisions of a few idealists and their skewed worldview, and because they've convinced themselves their actions are justifiable.

But apart from the needless bloodshed and resultant years of suffering this has brought about, is the incessant propaganda pieces flung about by the world's media, it's actually aggravating at this point.

Take for example the 'Ghost of Kyiv', who supposedly shot down about six Russian fighters, but turns out to be taken from a video game? :what:

Or the 13 soldiers stationed on Snake Island, that told a Russian warship to "Go f*** themselves" before dying a 'heroic' death and be given full honours, only to be, as it turned out, not killed, but captured?

Or the bloodied and bandaged woman paraded in front of a crumpled tower block to the world, only to find out that was from years prior?

The Russian soldier writing his mum a poignant farewell note, stating that that they've been ordered to take out schools, hospitals and 'even the civilians'? Badly translated? Who writes like that?

Hard to glean any semblance of what's truly going on, unless one was to actually be there in the thick of it. Our media seems to run with every story for cheap sensationalism, but then that's just what they do, after all....
I truly feel for all of the Ukranian's effected by this conflict but the truth is that the media are asking folk to pick a side and if your not of their point of view you deserve to be demonized. Two choices only. Whereas the truth is somewhere in the middle.
For example NATO promised Gorbachev that they will not encroach on Russia with weapons yet Russia is surrounded by NATO weapons along its boarders. How did America react back in the 60's with Cuba?
 

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I truly feel for all of the Ukranian's effected by this conflict but the truth is that the media are asking folk to pick a side and if your not of their point of view you deserve to be demonized. Two choices only. Whereas the truth is somewhere in the middle.
For example NATO promised Gorbachev that they will not encroach on Russia with weapons yet Russia is surrounded by NATO weapons along its boarders. How did America react back in the 60's with Cuba?
I think you'd be hard- pressed not to find people supporting and empathizing with Ukraine's plight in this conflict, and why wouldn't they?

But as you say, it's been debased into absolutes, so much so that anything even remotely Russian is now being demonized?

Oligarchs and their direct ties to Putin, business leaders in cahoots with him - sure, by all means. Ordinary people? Athletes? Businesses?

You now have celebs directly calling out others for not vocalizing their pro- Ukraine stance on Social Media. You have sports people/ teams being purged from competitions despite not having anything to do with this.

And then you have local shopkeepers and businesses removing sale of vodka from their shelves, amongst dozens more examples. At least direct your ire at Putin, not cease selling Smirnoff Ice because it suddenly offends your sensibilities and gets you Brownie points on Twitter. Because you can be sure that in a few months' time people will be trading with Russia, and people will be consuming their goods.

Also worth noting that we still buy $1 Billion's worth of oil daily from Russia even as we speak!
 

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I think you'd be hard- pressed not to find people supporting and empathizing with Ukraine's plight in this conflict, and why wouldn't they?

But as you say, it's been debased into absolutes, so much so that anything even remotely Russian is now being demonized?

Oligarchs and their direct ties to Putin, business leaders in cahoots with him - sure, by all means. Ordinary people? Athletes? Businesses?

You now have celebs directly calling out others for not vocalizing their pro- Ukraine stance on Social Media. You have sports people/ teams being purged from competitions despite not having anything to do with this.

And then you have local shopkeepers and businesses removing sale of vodka from their shelves, amongst dozens more examples. At least direct your ire at Putin, not cease selling Smirnoff Ice because it suddenly offends your sensibilities and gets you Brownie points on Twitter. Because you can be sure that in a few months' time people will be trading with Russia, and people will be consuming their goods.

Also worth noting that we still buy $1 Billion's worth of oil daily from Russia even as we speak!
It sure didn't take Shaun Penn long to organise a film crew and be in the Ukraine filming a documentary. Poor old Oscar the Meerkat has been canceled and I hear that the Ukrainians,who are 30% jabbed need to show a vaccine passport before they enter a bunker!

Here is the agreement that NATO tore up. Not to mention the 8 bio labs funded by America in the Ukraine. If another virus breaks out......

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A reminder of Joe Biden bribing Ukraine with 1 billion Dollars into firing the guy investigating his and his son's dealings in the Ukraine



And an incite into George Soros

 

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Just a small note, both Donald Trump and Nigel Farage have chosen their sides (hint: it's not Ukraine), so if you still support either of these men now you need to take a good look at yourself.
 

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A reminder of Joe Biden bribing Ukraine with 1 billion Dollars into firing the guy investigating his and his son's dealings in the Ukraine



And an incite into George Soros


Still peddling this nonsense? No proof, taken straight from RT and the usually conspiracy theory sites. People in Ukraine getting murdered by Putin and you still peddle the same conspiracy theory shite.
Real people are dying, not because of some unfounded rumour about Hunter or Joe Biden, more will die today, tomorrow and the next day trying to defend their country from a Russian mobster who wants to rattle his sabre. Not a conspiracy but pure fact.
 

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Please do not troll others with these unnecessary and insulting comments. Not cool.
Still peddling this nonsense? No proof, taken straight from RT and the usually conspiracy theory sites. People in Ukraine getting murdered by Putin and you still peddle the same conspiracy theory shite.
Real people are dying, not because of some unfounded rumour about Hunter or Joe Biden, more will die today, tomorrow and the next day trying to defend their country from a Russian mobster who wants to rattle his sabre. Not a conspiracy but pure fact.
Ouchy! You hurt my feels! :p

The proof is all there on the internet and in the past I have provided the receipts. Sorry I said sumin bad about your Joe :thumbsup:
 

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Ouchy! You hurt my feels! :p

The proof is all there on the internet and in the past I have provided the receipts. Sorry I said sumin bad about your Joe :thumbsup:
The proof like the famous video you posted that proofed without a doubt that 5G caused the Covid outbreak? You have yet to provide one iota of proof to any of the complete and utter shite that you post, and this time you are sinking to a new low placing the blame of Putin's invasion at the hands of Joe Biden, Nato, Ukraine, the Nazi's, the EU and everyone except the man sitting in Moscow who is controlling it all.
As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes, and there are plenty of those on here....
 

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The proof like the famous video you posted that proofed without a doubt that 5G caused the Covid outbreak? You have yet to provide one iota of proof to any of the complete and utter shite that you post, and this time you are sinking to a new low placing the blame of Putin's invasion at the hands of Joe Biden, Nato, Ukraine, the Nazi's, the EU and everyone except the man sitting in Moscow who is controlling it all.
As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes, and there are plenty of those on here....
Ha ha ha. The effects of 5g are yet to be determined. As for most other stuff I provide the receipts.
Here some up to date stuff on hunter
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And he gets help



 
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Unfortunately mainstream media has lost all respect to be believed because they repeatedly lie about anything that doesn't fit their narrative including dismissing any of the COVID mandates protests being "a few thousand people" while watching independent media shows that it is at least 10 times that figure just by seeing it with your own eyes.

I used to also have a Serbian friend (obviously here in Australia) who quite a long time ago told me that in the Yugoslav wars he was watching mainstream media over here showing footage of a building being bombed and being blamed on Serbia yet he recognized the building because it was from the city he came from before he came to Australia and ironically it was a Serbian building being bombed by the other side.

Mainstream media will only tell you what they want you to believe. There is always 3 sides to a story, the side of mainstream media, the side of the opposition and the real truth which is usually neither of the first 2.
 

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Unfortunately mainstream media has lost all respect to be believed because they repeatedly lie about anything that doesn't fit their narrative including dismissing any of the COVID mandates protests being "a few thousand people" while watching independent media shows that it is at least 10 times that figure just by seeing it with your own eyes.

I used to also have a Serbian friend (obviously here in Australia) who quite a long time ago told me that in the Yugoslav wars he was watching mainstream media over here showing footage of a building being bombed and being blamed on Serbia yet he recognized the building because it was from the city he came from before he came to Australia and ironically it was a Serbian building being bombed by the other side.

Mainstream media will only tell you what they want you to believe. There is always 3 sides to a story, the side of mainstream media, the side of the opposition and the real truth which is usually neither of the first 2.
The American legacy media has lost most of its viewers because the public no longer have any faith in them. If it was not for dealing with the likes of airports and the like CCN would have gone bust. And look at Biden's approval ratings.
A recent protester was asked his opinion on the conflict and he said he didn't have an answer because this is a protest about covid mandates. In the background of the protest where two Ukraine flags that where probably planted :)
 

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