New Slot Announcement Roshtein Megaways by GameArt

[L&L-Jan]

What I originally said was “for the rep it’s job done and they fuck off back to their regular duties. The only reps remaining are those abusing the forum for self-advertising.“

The true form of self-advertising can be found here:
How would you react

Yes, I'm around all over and reply to any topic. Sometimes with sarcasm, often just to help the OP or even the casino who is not able to reply. Sometimes I use the opportunity to market the services we provide. Again, that WE provide. It is not a one man show here.

But besides that, I'm pretty sure I'm in the position where I can say whatever I want. As a rep, as a person and as a employee of L&L. All in one. Without any contract being terminated.

Btw. my responses were not aimed to start another discussion. It was my view on the case in a simple comment.

 

[dunover]

The true form of self-advertising can be found here:
How would you react

Yes, I'm around all over and reply to any topic. Sometimes with sarcasm, often just to help the OP or even the casino who is not able to reply. Sometimes I use the opportunity to market the services we provide. Again, that WE provide. It is not a one man show here.

But besides that, I'm pretty sure I'm in the position where I can say whatever I want. As a rep, as a person and as a employee of L&L. All in one. Without any contract being terminated.

Btw. my responses were not aimed to start another discussion. It was my view on the case in a simple comment.

Don't worry about it. He threw barbs at Bryan, elicited a response, the same for me and now you. That's all it is. Trolling in its simplest form. He hates us all, yet comes back time after time because he gets a free meal. He's done enough to be booted, but I think that like me, some revel in the entertainment.

 

[Davey86]

8 pages long about a streamer and playford is no where to be seen which is a shame he would of probably liked the D’s business advice :machinegunner:

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Its just all blur now to me these words, after catching up on this thread, Ive got a headache

 

[dunover]

Its just all blur now to me these words, after catching up on this thread, Ive got a headache

The long and short of it is that TheD contends I am the Dominic Cummings of Casinomeister. Bryan is a puppet and I influence all his decisions. Apparently the Rotshine award was at my behest.

 

[interlog]

I feel left out.... I asked a question of @TheD but didn't get a reply....

 

[dunover]

I feel left out.... I asked a question of @TheD but didn't get a reply....

Probably because you are one of the dinosaurs like many of us, also a streamer so you might put him right on a few things.

 

[TheD]

1. You mention 'harm come to him' (Casinomeister). What an odd way to talk. Perhaps the YT hitmen are on their way.

I’m obviously referring to financial harm.

You must be aware that you have your own army of haters due to your openly racist and homophobic comments in your videos. They try to teach little kids at school how their behaviour online can follow them around possibly forever. You’re a grown ass man that should know better. You can have those opinions privately, but once you make them public then you can have no argument about damage to your reputation.

On this forum you are their beloved flatulator and everyone’s got your back. I can understand that in such a PC world someone like you is a breath of fresh air. A guy who doesn’t give a shit and speaks his mind. But in the business world you must behave professionally and I’m not sure you can and as such will always be a liability.

And no I don’t hate anyone here and it’s fine if you want to go crying to “Daddy” to have me banned.

 

[TheD]

One question for him: what more (if anything) has this Roshtein ever done for the casino industry that Bryan hasn't done.

I honestly don’t understand the question or comparison, what do you mean exactly?

 

[dunover]

I’m obviously referring to financial harm.

You must be aware that you have your own army of haters due to your openly racist and homophobic comments in your videos. They try to teach little kids at school how their behaviour online can follow them around possibly forever. You’re a grown ass man that should know better. You can have those opinions privately, but once you make them public then you can have no argument about damage to your reputation.

On this forum you are their beloved flatulator and everyone’s got your back. I can understand that in such a PC world someone like you is a breath of fresh air. A guy who doesn’t give a shit and speaks his mind. But in the business world you must behave professionally and I’m not sure you can and as such will always be a liability.

And no I don’t hate anyone here and it’s fine if you want to go crying to “Daddy” to have me banned.

Why would I go crying to 'Daddy' when apparently I pull his strings anyway? Your divide-and-conquer strategy here has been telegraphed from a mile away. It's pathetic.
I am not however, disingenuous. You stated earlier that you would use a mental image of me getting a 'handjob from my missus' as an anti-erection strategy when facing intimate examination at the doctor's. We have that in common.

 

[geordiecolin]

TheD.

I am struggling to see why you are directing so much diatribe towards so many posters in this thread? Is it simply because they are posters in this forum?
Given your very limited presence in this forum and as you state your limited involvement with Roshtein it can't be emotion driven on his behalf. It seems indiscriminate carpet bombing under the pretence of being measured and rational.
Is seems to me as if you just want to get your rocks off at the expense off all those involved with Casinomeister.
Have you not already made all of the points you wanted to make?

 

[dunover]

I honestly don’t understand the question or comparison, what do you mean exactly?

Oh, come on! You were a social media expert a few posts back. It's a simple enough question. I'll help you along - think player disputes, exposing rogue casinos, establishing dialogue with casinos, providing news, expertise from numerous members and the overall concept of CM.

 

[Davey86]

So who are you really the d? Very uncanny resemblance to someone who thought they made it but never did!

 

[TheD]

Oh, come on! You were a social media expert a few posts back. It's a simple enough question. I'll help you along - think player disputes, exposing rogue casinos, establishing dialogue with casinos, providing news, expertise from numerous members and the overall concept of CM.

What has this got to do with anything? I thought I made it clear the good work Bryan has done over the years and that he deserves all the praise he gets. It’s not a popularity competition but a simple matter of right and wrong.

Was Bryan right to publicly convict another casino affiliate of fraud? The fact he removed the award shows he thought better of it In which case this whole thing could be resolved with a simple apology to Roshtein.

With no apology, then it affects the integrity of CM and people should ask questions.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

What has this got to do with anything? I thought I made it clear the good work Bryan has done over the years and that he deserves all the praise he gets. It’s not a popularity competition but a simple matter of right and wrong.

Was Bryan right to publicly convict another casino affiliate of fraud? The fact he removed the award shows he thought better of it In which case this whole thing could be resolved with a simple apology to Roshtein.

With no apology, then it affects the integrity of CM and people should ask questions.

Should Rosh apologise then to all the people he has probably tempted to go on and lose everything through gambling? Or all the people he has probably tempted to bet more than they can afford in a bid to emulate his antics? Or how about apologising for likely exposing kids from that big gaming streamer (who was hosting rosh) to gambling at £40 a pop?

When you've got casino reps saying he's irresponsible, it's probably safe to assume he's irresponsible.

 

[Davey86]

To whom this may concern
We are sorry for all the horrible fraudulent ACCURATE things we said

 

[irish-ranger]

To whom this may concern
We are sorry for all the horrible fraudulent ACCURATE things we said

Fuck sake man don't encourage him he's not gonna stop till he has us all in a coma from reading his dribble

 

[Sunflytoy]

TheD: maybe if Roshtein didn't lend his name to a slots supplier that is linked to some seriously shady people, people would be more inclined to listen to your posts about how Casinomeister has supposedly gotten it wrong.

 

[dunover]

Fuck sake man don't encourage him he's not gonna stop till he has us all in a coma from reading his dribble

Careful what you say, he'll sue you:

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[ThomasMT]

Careful what you say, he'll sue you:

Another popular UK streamer said at the end of his latest video that his legal team met last week and are now requesting the IP addresses of all negative posts on this forum and others.

What happened to freedom of speech.

 

[irish-ranger]

Careful what you say, he'll sue you:

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Fuck him mate he can sue away

 

[dunover]

Another popular UK streamer said at the end of his latest video that his legal team met last week and are now requesting the IP addresses of all negative posts on this forum and others.

What happened to freedom of speech.

Crikey, if I did this to all the trolls on my channel, I'd either be broke or rich. I know you can request DPA for criminal investigations but I'm not sure that a site could give that out without a court order, assuming it was within a jurisdiction that was responsive. Even then, with VPN IP addresses are moot anyway. Sounds like a load of crap to me. No way would CM compromise the integrity of its members unless absolutely forced to do so. They can 'request' all they like, but the request would have to meet certain criteria, i.e. demonstrable and quantifiable loss of money or reputation which would elicit a court order to do so.
If it's a case of not liking what somebody has said, their opinions or version of facts then good luck to this 'legal team' as it will be laughed down the road. In the UK, the crossbar is set very high in order for the Police or courts to get involved in social media. If someone in the UK posts something along the lines "I really don't like (ethnic group, sexuality or whatever) and they should be (deported, legally sanctioned or whatever) and I would be happier" do you think the Police or courts would get involved?

It may surprise you to know, definitely not. If that example changed to incite or project violence against them, yes. I actually saw all this a couple of years ago when there were a few documentaries on trolling and social media and the Police and lawyers were commenting on what would be considered unlawful. I was quite surprised when watching at the magnitude of stuff that actually is allowed.

The simple answer is to do what the Bandito bloke does - turn off comments. I've also been hearing that numerous streamers still provide direct links to specific casino offers, often worded to disguise the page you are directed to. This was banned 2 years ago, I used to do it along with everyone else and got sanctioned like them. You are supposed to get a strike for this, then 2 more strikes and you're out. The whole YT thing is a mess.

 

[irish-ranger]

Another popular UK streamer said at the end of his latest video that his legal team met last week and are now requesting the IP addresses of all negative posts on this forum and others.

What happened to freedom of speech.

Bunch of pre Madonnas the lot of them the bandit claims that he would fight any 1 yet turns the comments off on his YT channel as they were up setting him Pfffffff fanny..

 

[colinsunderland]

Another popular UK streamer said at the end of his latest video that his legal team met last week and are now requesting the IP addresses of all negative posts on this forum and others.

What happened to freedom of speech.

which one? I hope they are coming after me, it's been a while since I destroyed someone in court
I've had two very big companies threaten me over the past few years for posts I've made on here, neither have taken it further. For example, GIG I'm still waiting for your legal action you threatened me with from a couple of years ago

 

[colinsunderland]

Crikey, if I did this to all the trolls on my channel, I'd either be broke or rich. I know you can request DPA for criminal investigations but I'm not sure that a site could give that out without a court order, assuming it was within a jurisdiction that was responsive. Even then, with VPN IP addresses are moot anyway. Sounds like a load of crap to me.

It would have to be with a court order for a civil claim, a criminal one is a bit more complicated, but I've not seen a post on here ever that would give a streamer cause to file a criminal complaint, and it would be the CPS more than his solicitors who would take that decision.
On the civil side, they had better be sure there is a case to answer, as getting someone's personal details by misleading a court to grant an order (not going to give the exact type of order in case it gives anyone ideas) won't be looked at very favorably.

 

[ThomasMT]

Crikey, if I did this to all the trolls on my channel, I'd either be broke or rich. I know you can request DPA for criminal investigations but I'm not sure that a site could give that out without a court order, assuming it was within a jurisdiction that was responsive. Even then, with VPN IP addresses are moot anyway. Sounds like a load of crap to me.

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Totally fair if he is getting abusive or threatening emails, but posting on a public forum with screenshots showing proof of no affy codes and other suspicious dealings is certainly valid for public discussion in my opinion.

 

[Kroffe]

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Totally fair if he is getting abusive or threatening emails, but posting on a public forum with screenshots showing proof of no affy codes and other suspicious dealings is certainly valid for public discussion in my opinion.

Crap...I never should have posted that picture of him on the train video.
Time to go underground.

 

[colinsunderland]

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Totally fair if he is getting abusive or threatening emails, but posting on a public forum with screenshots showing proof of no affy codes and other suspicious dealings is certainly valid for public discussion in my opinion.

So he states he has all the the information about him now, all the details he needs, but then says he has only just applied for the court order to get the IP address for him. If thats the case then how has he already got all the information before a court has issued the order?

Ben, if you are reading this, if you get any legal papers send them over, I'll defend any action against you completely free of charge.

Chip, you are a disgrace to the affiliate industry with your constant rule breaking, for example, using your daughter to promote casinos, including Casumo which you stated in public never happened, non compliant website etc.

 

[colinsunderland]

How come affiliates are still streaming on Twitch, I thought it was against the rules from 1st October?

 

[dunover]

How come affiliates are still streaming on Twitch, I thought it was against the rules from 1st October?

Probably an uploaded video of a stream, as opposed to a live one.

 

[colinsunderland]

Probably an uploaded video of a stream, as opposed to a live one.

Chipmonkzslotz last streamed 13 hours ago

 

[dunover]

Chipmonkzslotz last streamed 13 hours ago

But what - Pokemon or slots?

If the latter, then he is breaching the LCCP as all affiliates for UKGC licensed sites have received edition 6 of this which expressly forbids Twitch for promoting to UK players.

 

[colinsunderland]

Just had a look at the regulations

YouTube users will also have to use age-verified accounts before they can view gambling ads, guaranteeing that they cannot be seen by under-18s.

Funnily enough I've just checked 3 large UK streamers from a clean browser, not signed in to any google or other services, and could see them all without a single bit of age verification.

 

[colinsunderland]

But what - Pokemon or slots?

If the latter, then he is breaching the LCCP as all affiliates for UKGC licensed sites have received edition 6 of this which expressly forbids Twitch for promoting to UK players.

@L&L-Jan why are you allowing him to advertise you on youtube with no age gating?

Thats a clean browser and you can see I'm not logged in. I wasn't asked any age questions before starting the video.

As usual he doesn't give a fuck about regulations, and wonders why he gets shit from people. I await your legal teams contact Mr Monkz.

 

[dealer wins]

I know its wrong, but I really want to have a go on this slot lol

 

[dunover]

But what - Pokemon or slots?

Just had a look at the regulations

YouTube users will also have to use age-verified accounts before they can view gambling ads, guaranteeing that they cannot be seen by under-18s.

Funnily enough I've just checked 3 large UK streamers from a clean browser, not signed in to any google or other services, and could see them all without a single bit of age verification.

Yes, YT is permitted under certain circumstances (pre-approval form your aff manager, age verification) but 'users' could mean YT in general won't let gambling ads be visible to under-18's via their own verification of users, or the individual channel owner has to verify them?

Whichever, Twitch should've stopped.

 

[Davey86]

You can always rely on others on the Casinomeister forum

 

[dunover]

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@L&L-Jan why are you allowing him to advertise you on youtube with no age gating?

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Thats a clean browser and you can see I'm not logged in. I wasn't asked any age questions before starting the video.

As usual he doesn't give a fuck about regulations, and wonders why he gets shit from people. I await your legal teams contact Mr Monkz.

Well, it looks like some affiliates really don't give a fuck. Now wonder we all suffer a poor reputation, even those who spend time and effort staying fully compliant.

I am afraid this is what happens when greed takes over the industry, follow the money as they say.....

 

[colinsunderland]

Yes, YT is permitted under certain circumstances (pre-approval form your aff manager, age verification) but 'users' could mean YT in general won't let gambling ads be visible to under-18's via their own verification of users, or the individual channel owner has to verify them?

Whichever, Twitch should've stopped.

Yes, but the point is, there is no age verification, heres what a couple of affiliate programs have stated

• Streaming platforms (YouTube, Twitch, etc) channels and content must be age-gated to 18+ (pokerstars)
· YouTube affiliates are approved on an exception-basis only, and are required to continue age-gating. If you wish to start using YouTube as a promotional source, please reach out to your affiliate manager first for prior approval (WHG)

 

[Davey86]

Yes, but the point is, there is no age verification, heres what a couple of affiliate programs have stated

• Streaming platforms (YouTube, Twitch, etc) channels and content must be age-gated to 18+ (pokerstars)
· YouTube affiliates are approved on an exception-basis only, and are required to continue age-gating. If you wish to start using YouTube as a promotional source, please reach out to your affiliate manager first for prior approval (WHG)

Sad thing is mate he reads the threads on here as a guest and all of a sudden either content removed or follows the law from your post and quickly

 

[Davey86]

I remember messaging the casino during lockdown is it ok to use someone else’s casino account they asked what I meant I said
So if my full name is ........ and the casino account I’m using from home during lockdown is from ......... is that ok? Low and behold ‘ah shit quickly’ sorted

 

[dunover]

It's also worth pointing out that the casino is in breach of LCCP (6) if advertising on Twitch via an affiliate post 30/9, therefore should not accept players from that affiliate nor pay them for those players.
I'm sure the UKGC would be dismayed that their latest code of conduct has been ignored.

 

[colinsunderland]

Sad thing is mate he reads the threads on here as a guest and all of a sudden either content removed or follows the law from your post and quickly

Which is why they have been downloaded and screenshotted, as I did with his Casumo one, as he decided to lie to them about it too.
Paints himself as whiter than white, threatening people with legal action, when he is in breach of so many regulations himself. People in glass houses and all that.
Go crying to your legal team about that Chip, then message me and I'll save you the money and give you my IP address without the need for a court order.

 

[Davey86]

Which is why they have been downloaded and screenshotted, as I did with his Casumo one, as he decided to lie to them about it too.
Paints himself as whiter than white, threatening people with legal action, when he is in breach of so many regulations himself. People in glass houses and all that.
Go crying to your legal team about that Chip, then message me and I'll save you the money and give you my IP address without the need for a court order.

I like how the defence team gathers on Twitter on Twitter for fucks sake of course your social media will agree with you court of law not so much

 

[ThomasMT]

Underage gambling is an serious issue in the UK so there should be no reason why any streamer wouldn't want to age-restrict content unless they wanted to look the other way.

Researchers at the University of Stirling and Ipsos Mori

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that 96% of young people had seen gambling marketing material in the past 30 days and were more likely to bet as a result.

The report estimated that 41,000 UK followers of gambling-related accounts were likely to be under 16 and 6% of followers of “traditional” gambling accounts were found to be children.

The figure increased to 17% when looking specifically at gambling accounts dedicated to eSports, competitive video gaming.

“It’s even more terrifying at this current time, the only source of entertainment for some young people is streaming sites like YouTube and gaming realm Twitch.”

 

[dunover]

Sad thing is mate he reads the threads on here as a guest and all of a sudden either content removed or follows the law from your post and quickly

LOL...vanished quicker than Corbyn's voters in 2019. Bit late what with ahem.. downloads and screenshots. The irony is, he made a Tw@tter post last month stating he cannot do it. The worrying thing is that he states 'not all casinos are enforcing it' !! I'm afraid that EVERY casino with a UKGC license HAS to enforce it or they are in breach. The Twitch colin showed has Jungle Spins - A UKGC licensed casino, so that's a massive breach.

 

[TheD]

Crikey, if I did this to all the trolls on my channel, I'd either be broke or rich. I know you can request DPA for criminal investigations but I'm not sure that a site could give that out without a court order, assuming it was within a jurisdiction that was responsive. Even then, with VPN IP addresses are moot anyway. Sounds like a load of crap to me.

It is a load of crap and nothing but a scare tactic. Defamation isn’t even a crime in many countries and people are free to say what they like for the most part. IP addresses are inadmissible and not worth the cost of investigating unless tied to an organisation or related to serious crime.

With Roshtein it’s a little bit different as he believes the attacks are racially motivated and created by those who seek to gain financially from his demise.

@dunover I’m definitely not a social media expert, but I’m required to take bi annual 4 hour courses. I would recommend you take those and that is not to belittle you. I feel you would understand why I say your behaviour is risky if you had attended the same courses and been shown examples and the consequences.

Either way I no longer care about any of this so I’m outa here and I wish you all the best of luck In whatever you do.

 

[colinsunderland]

LOL...vanished quicker than Corbyn's voters in 2019. Bit late what with ahem.. downloads and screenshots. The irony is, he made a Tw@tter post last month stating he cannot do it. The worrying thing is that he states 'not all casinos are enforcing it' !! I'm afraid that EVERY casino with a UKGC license HAS to enforce it or they are in breach. The Twitch colin showed has Jungle Spins - A UKGC licensed casino, so that's a massive breach.

Just shows what a fucking muppet he is.

It is a clear breach of their LCCP, notably 5.1.8 which states that "Licensees should also follow any relevant industry code of practice on advertising, notably the Gambling Industry Code for Socially Responsible Advertising."

Perhaps billy big bollocks who doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about, could tell us why that is wrong?

 

[dunover]

It is a load of crap and nothing but a scare tactic. Defamation isn’t even a crime in many countries and people are free to say what they like for the most part. IP addresses are inadmissible and not worth the cost of investigating unless tied to an organisation or related to serious crime.

With Roshtein it’s a little bit different as he believes the attacks are racially motivated and created by those who seek to gain financially from his demise.

@dunover I’m definitely not a social media expert, but I’m required to take bi annual 4 hour courses. I would recommend you take those and that is not to belittle you. I feel you would understand why I say your behaviour is risky if you had attended the same courses and been shown examples and the consequences.

Either way I no longer care about any of this so I’m outa here and I wish you all the best of luck In whatever you do.

Don't worry, you couldn't belittle anybody. Could I sit in the corner of the class with a traffic cone on my head?

 

[irish-ranger]

It is a load of crap and nothing but a scare tactic. Defamation isn’t even a crime in many countries and people are free to say what they like for the most part. IP addresses are inadmissible and not worth the cost of investigating unless tied to an organisation or related to serious crime.

With Roshtein it’s a little bit different as he believes the attacks are racially motivated and created by those who seek to gain financially from his demise.

@dunover I’m definitely not a social media expert, but I’m required to take bi annual 4 hour courses. I would recommend you take those and that is not to belittle you. I feel you would understand why I say your behaviour is risky if you had attended the same courses and been shown examples and the consequences.

Either way I no longer care about any of this so I’m outa here and I wish you all the best of luck In whatever you do.

Oooo you'll be back just like Arnie ffs..