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I believe you are all a victim of a firehose of falsehood created by other streamers and affiliates to destroy his reputation for their own financial gain.

Let me explain what I know about Roshtein and why I believe this to be the case.

When Roshtein started streaming his channel really stood out and appealed to many because he was very talented with graphics design. This meant he could create unique content to that of all other streamers and he quickly became popular. For example, he could edit himself into the slot machine to dance along during a bonus. He used animations and special effects making his content visually appealing. It was particularly appealing to the younger generation who were getting bored of the much older streamers.

Roshtein channel grew fast and is now the most popular. At the time, other streamers would say they were happy for him as they understood what a great achievement it was. As time goes on his channel becomes more and more popular and this is when things start to go wrong.

Other streamers were noticing that their viewer count would plummet the moment he started steaming as people would flock over to his channel. Many would even advertise “Roshtein’s streaming!!!!” in the chat before leaving. Obviously the other streamers were becoming annoyed by this as they felt Roshtein is stealing their viewers leaving behind only the most loyal fans of their channel.

Naturally, the conversation in chat is now all about Roshtein and discussed among those who were not fans of his style. This is when the first allegations started. They couldn’t understand why people enjoyed his content and started accusing him of using view bots. The streamers quickly jumped on this idea and soon enough started openly accusing him of this. They now see him as an enemy and many start to ban him from their own channels to make this point. Fans of Roshtein now feel unwelcome in these other channels causing arguments in chat about Roshtein using view bots.

Around this time; for many channels, gambling is no longer financially sustainable. Some of these streamers lost all their savings trying to compete with the other streamers. It felt like there was a race on to see who can get the biggest wins and bet the highest. Many lost everything and some of the younger streamers had to even move back home to live with their parents.

These failed channels had been trying hard to promote and had many social media accounts across the gambling community. With these accounts no longer having any use, the streamers used them to vent their anger. They don’t want to feel like a failure so accuse the streaming community of being frauds working with the casinos. This again adds more fuel to the accusations against Roshtein.

Despite all this, people are still enjoying Roshtein’s streams and he has now become very experienced and creating better content than ever before. He is pulling in serious numbers and now in a position to start making lucrative exclusivity deals with casinos. With this added wealth he can now afford to comfortably play at larger stakes than any other streamer.

And so here we go again. Now Roshtein is accused by the other streamers of using fake money and the whole idea that Roshtein is a fraud is reenforced. People who have never even watched Roshtein now accept he’s a fraud and there is evidence of that in this very thread.

The firehosing technique is so powerful that no amount of evidence could convince them otherwise but instead they will look for confirmation bias. It is the same technique used by politicians on Twitter were by if you repeat a false statement enough times, people will accept it as the truth and defend it.

That is what I believe has happened with Roshtein. He is now becoming one of the most popular streamers on all of twitch and has attracted a new generation to online casinos. His streams are getting 100,000 of hits which no one ever believed possible. He is now even getting his very own slot machine in what must be a very lucrative business deal.

The real reason none of you here like Roshtein is because Casinomeister is a dinosaur and you’re all old as shit. A site that has for too many years rested on its laurels and failed to utilise social media to attract younger member. You are not suppose to like Roshtein in the same way a young person doesn’t enjoy political debates.

You need to ask yourselves, why should anyone even care about @Casinomeister opinion anyway? Where’s the credibility? This is a site that gave Roshtein an award for being “fake fake fake”.


We live in a world of entertainment with smartphones, gaming and social media. Who would ever want to come to this forum? It’s become a place for old friends to hang out and members are on first name terms with one another. The whole place feels like it needs a major injection of viagra to bring it back to life.

As an older generation your job should be to help protect the younger generation from the dangers of gambling and that includes Roshtein himself. It is a valid argument that he might cause harm to both himself and others as they haven’t learnt the lessons you have. But no young person would visit a site like this because there’s nothing fun about it. Someone comes along that dared to have an opinion outside of the hive mind and gets attacked by aggressive posts from a mod.

I imagine Roshtein is simply too busy and enjoying life to care what the OAPs over at Casinomeister think of him.

@dunover
@goatwack
@ChopleyIOM
 

dunover

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I believe you are all a victim of a firehose of falsehood created by other streamers and affiliates to destroy his reputation for their own financial gain.

Let me explain what I know about Roshtein and why I believe this to be the case.

When Roshtein started streaming his channel really stood out and appealed to many because he was very talented with graphics design. This meant he could create unique content to that of all other streamers and he quickly became popular. For example, he could edit himself into the slot machine to dance along during a bonus. He used animations and special effects making his content visually appealing. It was particularly appealing to the younger generation who were getting bored of the much older streamers.

Roshtein channel grew fast and is now the most popular. At the time, other streamers would say they were happy for him as they understood what a great achievement it was. As time goes on his channel becomes more and more popular and this is when things start to go wrong.

Other streamers were noticing that their viewer count would plummet the moment he started steaming as people would flock over to his channel. Many would even advertise “Roshtein’s streaming!!!!” in the chat before leaving. Obviously the other streamers were becoming annoyed by this as they felt Roshtein is stealing their viewers leaving behind only the most loyal fans of their channel.

Naturally, the conversation in chat is now all about Roshtein and discussed among those who were not fans of his style. This is when the first allegations started. They couldn’t understand why people enjoyed his content and started accusing him of using view bots. The streamers quickly jumped on this idea and soon enough started openly accusing him of this. They now see him as an enemy and many start to ban him from their own channels to make this point. Fans of Roshtein now feel unwelcome in these other channels causing arguments in chat about Roshtein using view bots.

Around this time; for many channels, gambling is no longer financially sustainable. Some of these streamers lost all their savings trying to compete with the other streamers. It felt like there was a race on to see who can get the biggest wins and bet the highest. Many lost everything and some of the younger streamers had to even move back home to live with their parents.

These failed channels had been trying hard to promote and had many social media accounts across the gambling community. With these accounts no longer having any use, the streamers used them to vent their anger. They don’t want to feel like a failure so accuse the streaming community of being frauds working with the casinos. This again adds more fuel to the accusations against Roshtein.

Despite all this, people are still enjoying Roshtein’s streams and he has now become very experienced and creating better content than ever before. He is pulling in serious numbers and now in a position to start making lucrative exclusivity deals with casinos. With this added wealth he can now afford to comfortably play at larger stakes than any other streamer.

And so here we go again. Now Roshtein is accused by the other streamers of using fake money and the whole idea that Roshtein is a fraud is reenforced. People who have never even watched Roshtein now accept he’s a fraud and there is evidence of that in this very thread.

The firehosing technique is so powerful that no amount of evidence could convince them otherwise but instead they will look for confirmation bias. It is the same technique used by politicians on Twitter were by if you repeat a false statement enough times, people will accept it as the truth and defend it.

That is what I believe has happened with Roshtein. He is now becoming one of the most popular streamers on all of twitch and has attracted a new generation to online casinos. His streams are getting 100,000 of hits which no one ever believed possible. He is now even getting his very own slot machine in what must be a very lucrative business deal.

The real reason none of you here like Roshtein is because Casinomeister is a dinosaur and you’re all old as shit. A site that has for too many years rested on its laurels and failed to utilise social media to attract younger member. You are not suppose to like Roshtein in the same way a young person doesn’t enjoy political debates.

You need to ask yourselves, why should anyone even care about @Casinomeister opinion anyway? Where’s the credibility? This is a site that gave Roshtein an award for being “fake fake fake”.


We live in a world of entertainment with smartphones, gaming and social media. Who would ever want to come to this forum? It’s become a place for old friends to hang out and members are on first name terms with one another. The whole place feels like it needs a major injection of viagra to bring it back to life.

As an older generation your job should be to help protect the younger generation from the dangers of gambling and that includes Roshtein himself. It is a valid argument that he might cause harm to both himself and others as they haven’t learnt the lessons you have. But no young person would visit a site like this because there’s nothing fun about it. Someone comes along that dared to have an opinion outside of the hive mind and gets attacked by aggressive posts from a mod.

I imagine Roshtein is simply too busy and enjoying life to care what the OAPs over at Casinomeister think of him.

@dunover
@goatwack
@ChopleyIOM
Well, it appears BTG didn't want the game associated with him too much, so it has been changed:

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:) :)
 

Nate

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I believe you are all a victim of a firehose of falsehood created by other streamers and affiliates to destroy his reputation for their own financial gain.

Let me explain what I know about Roshtein and why I believe this to be the case.

When Roshtein started streaming his channel really stood out and appealed to many because he was very talented with graphics design. This meant he could create unique content to that of all other streamers and he quickly became popular. For example, he could edit himself into the slot machine to dance along during a bonus. He used animations and special effects making his content visually appealing. It was particularly appealing to the younger generation who were getting bored of the much older streamers.

Roshtein channel grew fast and is now the most popular. At the time, other streamers would say they were happy for him as they understood what a great achievement it was. As time goes on his channel becomes more and more popular and this is when things start to go wrong.

Other streamers were noticing that their viewer count would plummet the moment he started steaming as people would flock over to his channel. Many would even advertise “Roshtein’s streaming!!!!” in the chat before leaving. Obviously the other streamers were becoming annoyed by this as they felt Roshtein is stealing their viewers leaving behind only the most loyal fans of their channel.

Naturally, the conversation in chat is now all about Roshtein and discussed among those who were not fans of his style. This is when the first allegations started. They couldn’t understand why people enjoyed his content and started accusing him of using view bots. The streamers quickly jumped on this idea and soon enough started openly accusing him of this. They now see him as an enemy and many start to ban him from their own channels to make this point. Fans of Roshtein now feel unwelcome in these other channels causing arguments in chat about Roshtein using view bots.

Around this time; for many channels, gambling is no longer financially sustainable. Some of these streamers lost all their savings trying to compete with the other streamers. It felt like there was a race on to see who can get the biggest wins and bet the highest. Many lost everything and some of the younger streamers had to even move back home to live with their parents.

These failed channels had been trying hard to promote and had many social media accounts across the gambling community. With these accounts no longer having any use, the streamers used them to vent their anger. They don’t want to feel like a failure so accuse the streaming community of being frauds working with the casinos. This again adds more fuel to the accusations against Roshtein.

Despite all this, people are still enjoying Roshtein’s streams and he has now become very experienced and creating better content than ever before. He is pulling in serious numbers and now in a position to start making lucrative exclusivity deals with casinos. With this added wealth he can now afford to comfortably play at larger stakes than any other streamer.

And so here we go again. Now Roshtein is accused by the other streamers of using fake money and the whole idea that Roshtein is a fraud is reenforced. People who have never even watched Roshtein now accept he’s a fraud and there is evidence of that in this very thread.

The firehosing technique is so powerful that no amount of evidence could convince them otherwise but instead they will look for confirmation bias. It is the same technique used by politicians on Twitter were by if you repeat a false statement enough times, people will accept it as the truth and defend it.

That is what I believe has happened with Roshtein. He is now becoming one of the most popular streamers on all of twitch and has attracted a new generation to online casinos. His streams are getting 100,000 of hits which no one ever believed possible. He is now even getting his very own slot machine in what must be a very lucrative business deal.

The real reason none of you here like Roshtein is because Casinomeister is a dinosaur and you’re all old as shit. A site that has for too many years rested on its laurels and failed to utilise social media to attract younger member. You are not suppose to like Roshtein in the same way a young person doesn’t enjoy political debates.

You need to ask yourselves, why should anyone even care about @Casinomeister opinion anyway? Where’s the credibility? This is a site that gave Roshtein an award for being “fake fake fake”.


We live in a world of entertainment with smartphones, gaming and social media. Who would ever want to come to this forum? It’s become a place for old friends to hang out and members are on first name terms with one another. The whole place feels like it needs a major injection of viagra to bring it back to life.

As an older generation your job should be to help protect the younger generation from the dangers of gambling and that includes Roshtein himself. It is a valid argument that he might cause harm to both himself and others as they haven’t learnt the lessons you have. But no young person would visit a site like this because there’s nothing fun about it. Someone comes along that dared to have an opinion outside of the hive mind and gets attacked by aggressive posts from a mod.

I imagine Roshtein is simply too busy and enjoying life to care what the OAPs over at Casinomeister think of him.

@dunover
@goatwack
@ChopleyIOM
Are you the PR department for Rosh?

Calling us old as shit and CM a dinosaur is not cool. Irrespective what you think about CM and its reach - You found it didn't you?

Nate
 

Nate

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Hey!! How'd I get dragged into this! :laugh:


And anyway, don't know about the other two. I'm innocent! Plus 41 is a fine age, I'm in my prime!
Hey - I am a Paleo Meister (Means REALLY REALLY OLD) - Thanks CM...

You're an old goat too man... You have no social media presence. You don't even have an account on that place (with the blue bird) where people tweep each other... What's it called? Flipper or something?

Nate
 

goatwack

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Hey - I am a Paleo Meister (Means REALLY REALLY OLD) - Thanks CM...

You're an old goat too man... You have no social media presence. You don't even have an account on that place (with the blue bird) where people tweep each other... What's it called? Flipper or something?

Nate
I still strut down the high street in my flares with my beat-box, like all the cool cats
 

irish-ranger

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I believe you are all a victim of a firehose of falsehood created by other streamers and affiliates to destroy his reputation for their own financial gain.

Let me explain what I know about Roshtein and why I believe this to be the case.

When Roshtein started streaming his channel really stood out and appealed to many because he was very talented with graphics design. This meant he could create unique content to that of all other streamers and he quickly became popular. For example, he could edit himself into the slot machine to dance along during a bonus. He used animations and special effects making his content visually appealing. It was particularly appealing to the younger generation who were getting bored of the much older streamers.

Roshtein channel grew fast and is now the most popular. At the time, other streamers would say they were happy for him as they understood what a great achievement it was. As time goes on his channel becomes more and more popular and this is when things start to go wrong.

Other streamers were noticing that their viewer count would plummet the moment he started steaming as people would flock over to his channel. Many would even advertise “Roshtein’s streaming!!!!” in the chat before leaving. Obviously the other streamers were becoming annoyed by this as they felt Roshtein is stealing their viewers leaving behind only the most loyal fans of their channel.

Naturally, the conversation in chat is now all about Roshtein and discussed among those who were not fans of his style. This is when the first allegations started. They couldn’t understand why people enjoyed his content and started accusing him of using view bots. The streamers quickly jumped on this idea and soon enough started openly accusing him of this. They now see him as an enemy and many start to ban him from their own channels to make this point. Fans of Roshtein now feel unwelcome in these other channels causing arguments in chat about Roshtein using view bots.

Around this time; for many channels, gambling is no longer financially sustainable. Some of these streamers lost all their savings trying to compete with the other streamers. It felt like there was a race on to see who can get the biggest wins and bet the highest. Many lost everything and some of the younger streamers had to even move back home to live with their parents.

These failed channels had been trying hard to promote and had many social media accounts across the gambling community. With these accounts no longer having any use, the streamers used them to vent their anger. They don’t want to feel like a failure so accuse the streaming community of being frauds working with the casinos. This again adds more fuel to the accusations against Roshtein.

Despite all this, people are still enjoying Roshtein’s streams and he has now become very experienced and creating better content than ever before. He is pulling in serious numbers and now in a position to start making lucrative exclusivity deals with casinos. With this added wealth he can now afford to comfortably play at larger stakes than any other streamer.

And so here we go again. Now Roshtein is accused by the other streamers of using fake money and the whole idea that Roshtein is a fraud is reenforced. People who have never even watched Roshtein now accept he’s a fraud and there is evidence of that in this very thread.

The firehosing technique is so powerful that no amount of evidence could convince them otherwise but instead they will look for confirmation bias. It is the same technique used by politicians on Twitter were by if you repeat a false statement enough times, people will accept it as the truth and defend it.

That is what I believe has happened with Roshtein. He is now becoming one of the most popular streamers on all of twitch and has attracted a new generation to online casinos. His streams are getting 100,000 of hits which no one ever believed possible. He is now even getting his very own slot machine in what must be a very lucrative business deal.

The real reason none of you here like Roshtein is because Casinomeister is a dinosaur and you’re all old as shit. A site that has for too many years rested on its laurels and failed to utilise social media to attract younger member. You are not suppose to like Roshtein in the same way a young person doesn’t enjoy political debates.

You need to ask yourselves, why should anyone even care about @Casinomeister opinion anyway? Where’s the credibility? This is a site that gave Roshtein an award for being “fake fake fake”.


We live in a world of entertainment with smartphones, gaming and social media. Who would ever want to come to this forum? It’s become a place for old friends to hang out and members are on first name terms with one another. The whole place feels like it needs a major injection of viagra to bring it back to life.

As an older generation your job should be to help protect the younger generation from the dangers of gambling and that includes Roshtein himself. It is a valid argument that he might cause harm to both himself and others as they haven’t learnt the lessons you have. But no young person would visit a site like this because there’s nothing fun about it. Someone comes along that dared to have an opinion outside of the hive mind and gets attacked by aggressive posts from a mod.

I imagine Roshtein is simply too busy and enjoying life to care what the OAPs over at Casinomeister think of him.

@dunover
@goatwack
@ChopleyIOM
You are a complete and utter prat if u think any of us care what rosh-mong thinks of us the man is an idiot and a fraud and it’s pricks like you feeding his ego which prolongs the torture of threads like this.
Run along groupie your hero is spinning some fake cash..
 

ChopleyIOM

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As a man of 46 whose YouTube channel has garnered fewer than 2000 subscribers in nearly three years, and whose videos often struggle to reach 1000 views, and who routinely makes content covering obscure compensated UK fruit machines released in 1992, or playing low volatility slots on 20p stakes - I find the suggestion that there's any mystery around my lack of success extremely offensive.

Anyway, time for my afternoon cup of Ovaltine and a chocolate digestive biscuit.
 

Cardio1979

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It often baffles me how someone can write so much about some random guy on the internet.
I got absolutely nothing against Roshstein, I think his streams are fun. Real or fake, who cares.

Having said that I would never go on other platforms sucking his D and insulting an entire user base.
 

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