New Slot Announcement Roshtein Megaways by GameArt

[dunover]

This is worrying because all affiliates will ultimately be screwed by this attitude. As well as their partners, the casinos, getting huge fines and then dropping the compliant UK affiliates afterwards. What baffles me is that he states 'certain casinos cannot be used on twitch' then proceeds to stream a UKGC licensed casino after the Sep 30 deadline. I don't really want to get involved in all this, but this is going to ruin it for us all, not just him and casino he promoted via a breach of the LLCP. The irony is, Rotshine doesn't breach any UKGC codes because he doesn't promote UKGC sites as far as I know, but grey market ones.

 

[Davey86]

What a surprise and then one says he leaves I’ve heard and read that same post over the years

 

[TamingTheBeast]

Personally, I've seen much worse exposure to gambling to minors through video games (CS:GO is a great example) and not enough has been done to it compared to Slots streaming it's quite baffling.

 

[L&L-Jan]

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@L&L-Jan why are you allowing him to advertise you on youtube with no age gating?

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I passed this to our relevant team mate but ryan replied to you in another topic. These stuff its better to tag Ryan. Everything else can be me

Kr. Jan

 

[CasinoNinja]

I wonder if Letsgiveitaspin is affected by this too even if he lives in Malta? He did promote Leovegas the other day, and Daskelele also promotes sites like Mr.Green

 

[colinsunderland]

I passed this to our relevant team mate but ryan replied to you in another topic. These stuff its better to tag Ryan. Everything else can be me

Kr. Jan

pffft passing the buck as usual
only kidding, yes I spoke with Ryan earlier, thanks mate

 

[dunover]

I wonder if Letsgiveitaspin is affected by this too even if he lives in Malta? He did promote Leovegas the other day, and Daskelele also promotes sites like Mr.Green

I can only assume he won't be permitted to sign UK players - how this will be enforced by LV Affs is another matter, maybe a separate campaign code to make sure UK can only sign-up through the website?

 

[colinsunderland]

So after telling everyone he wasn't going to follow the rules, now, suddenly after these posts, its for the best as he doesn't want people watching who shouldn't be. So youtube will be age gated and no more streams on Twitch. Funny how he didn't give a shit a few days ago, and, as predicted, when called out about about his dodgy practices, suddenly starts following them. He is either thick as fuck and can't read basic rules for advertising, or thinks he is so big they don't actually apply to him. He is a disgrace to the affiliate industry.




Of course he hasn't done it properly, and is still in breach of the advertising rules, lets see if you can work out what I found in about 2 minutes Chip, see if you fix that in the next day or so

 

[Davey86]

So after telling everyone he wasn't going to follow the rules, now, suddenly after these posts, its for the best as he doesn't want people watching who shouldn't be. So youtube will be age gated and no more streams on Twitch. Funny how he didn't give a shit a few days ago, and, as predicted, when called out about about his dodgy practices, suddenly starts following them. He is either thick as fuck and can't read basic rules for advertising, or thinks he is so big they don't actually apply to him. He is a disgrace to the affiliate industry.




Of course he hasn't done it properly, and is still in breach of the advertising rules, lets see if you can work out what I found in about 2 minutes Chip, see if you fix that in the next day or so

Think an affiliate manager has had word?

 

[colinsunderland]

Think an affiliate manager has had word?

I couldn't comment on that, but he will be reading the thread anyway

 

[dunover]

I couldn't comment on that, but he will be reading the thread anyway

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I took the new LCCP-6 update from 01/10 to mean the on YT any UK-facing casino advertising would only be visible to people who were age-verified on YT as 18+, because the mere act of subscribing does NOT 'age-gate' the subscribers at all? My definition of 'age-gating' by the way is YT subs/viewers who have already verified with YT themselves as over 18.

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[colinsunderland]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I took the new LCCP-6 update from 01/10 to mean the on YT any UK-facing casino advertising would only be visible to people who were age-verified on YT as 18+, because the mere act of subscribing does NOT 'age-gate' the subscribers at all? My definition of 'age-gating' by the way is YT subs/viewers who have already verified with YT themselves as over 18.

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exactly right.

 

[dunover]

exactly right.

Well that's fucked the UK-facing streamers then, as I bet about 1-5% of their viewers and subs are YT verified as 18+

 

[Kroffe]

Poor streamers =(

 

[Mining Might]

What great news.

 

[geordiecolin]

Well that's fucked the UK-facing streamers then, as I bet about 1-5% of their viewers and subs are YT verified as 18+

Where is Ben when I want to see someone see one of their dreams come true? The guy looks harrowed

 

[dunover]

I did a bit of homework about this LCCP stuff and exactly what it should mean for affiliates who stream and UKGC casinos that allow or vet a YT presence. The long and short of it is, that Col's endorsement of my take a few posts ago is correct - you will only be showing this kind of content to age-verified YT account holders. As of 7 days ago. I believe they will give it until the end of the month before going after the non-compliant channels.

Here's a good drone about what I discovered and concluded.

 

[geordiecolin]

I did a bit of homework about this LCCP stuff and exactly what it should mean for affiliates who stream and UKGC casinos that allow or vet a YT presence. The long and short of it is, that Col's endorsement of my take a few posts ago is correct - you will only be showing this kind of content to age-verified YT account holders. As of 7 days ago. I believe they will give it until the end of the month before going after the non-compliant channels.

Here's a good drone about what I discovered and concluded.

I wonder how that will effect exclusive contracts between the streamer and casino's,where they have one?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Hopefully they’ll attack stupid fucking thumbnails with open mouthed expressions and pathetic titles next.

WOW.

 

[neilw]

I didn't quite get through the whole video . Does a review video, that doesn't mention or show a casino brand with no affiliate links need to be age gated?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I mean if ever a screen shot deserved a WOW it’s this one. Just look at it.

What a c**t this bloke is.

 

[Mining Might]

Guys be careful chip is consulting with his legal team.

 

[geordiecolin]

Guys be careful chip is consulting with his legal team.

The only legal team he will be consulting with soon will be concerning his recently acquired mortgage.
But to be honest I do find that sad if it is the case

 

[colinsunderland]

I did a bit of homework about this LCCP stuff and exactly what it should mean for affiliates who stream and UKGC casinos that allow or vet a YT presence. The long and short of it is, that Col's endorsement of my take a few posts ago is correct - you will only be showing this kind of content to age-verified YT account holders. As of 7 days ago. I believe they will give it until the end of the month before going after the non-compliant channels.

Here's a good drone about what I discovered and concluded.

Regarding the Leovegas example you used in the video. Firstly if they are targeting UK then they will certainly be subject to the same regulations as UK affiliates are. So if their website is solely in Euros they would possibly be ok, but if I were an affiliate manager I would be telling them to exclude the UK from being able to view the videos.
However, if they use dynamic banners that are geo targeted then they will certainly have to age gate. Same would apply if they show any sign up offers in UK£'s.

I had a very quick look earlier at a few casino channels on various platforms and not a single one was following the new rules correctly. It was a very quick look though so quite possibly some are.

 

[colinsunderland]

Guys be careful chip is consulting with his legal team.

Any individual, who isn't a multimillionaire, who states he has a legal team is a liar (but we all know Chipmonkz is a liar anyway so thats nothing new). When it is for something simple like defamation/libellous comments/cease and desist letters, which is what he is implying, then if there is a team of lawyers on the case then he is getting ripped off, as any law student should be able to do that work. I think he thinks he's in an episode of Suits the way he was banging on.
Shame he didn't consult his team of solicitors about the new changes to regulations before he made a video saying that he would just ignore them, he might not have looked like a complete arse a few days later having to completely backtrack, had he done so.

 

[geordiecolin]

The conversation between Col and Dunover is a perfect example of why this forum is worth joining and checking in regularly @TheD. I would suggest that the issue that they are discussing is not one that effects just dinosaurs at all.

 

[colinsunderland]

So I wonder how the affiliate managers will deal with this type of thing

Nickslots on this video is clearly advertising Rizk @rizkaffiliatemanager just tagging you to see if you would like to comment

There is no age gate on this video

Pretty open and shut, no age verification required, clearly advertising a casino, however, this screenshot is from a compilation video

So you can't really blame Rizk or Nickslots if someone rips the content and reposts it (if Nickslots was following the rules, which he isn't, no age gating and streaming on Twitch still).

But, the fact remains, the video clearly has an advert for Rizk on it, and is available on youtube without age verification being required. That is a clear breach of the new regulations, regardless of if it was produced by Nickslots or not. I think the UKGC will eventually take action for this, and the only way I can see round it is to take out any on screen graphics advertising.
@rizkaffiliatemanager any reason you are allowing your affiliates to stream on twitch and not age gate youtube videos?

 

[colinsunderland]

@maxd just realised this is a slot thread, the last few pages at least are all about the new affiliate advertising rules, could you split the thread please and stick it in the casino section or something, with a new title maybe?

 

[dunover]

@maxd just realised this is a slot thread, the last few pages at least are all about the new affiliate advertising rules, could you split the thread please and stick it in the casino section or something, with a new title maybe?

Yes, this has diverged a bit and they are both important threads in their own right.

 

[dunover]

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I mean if ever a screen shot deserved a WOW it’s this one. Just look at it.

What a c**t this bloke is.

Why has he got two sex toys superimposed onto his face?

 

[dunover]

I didn't quite get through the whole video . Does a review video, that doesn't mention or show a casino brand with no affiliate links need to be age gated?

No, as there is no involvement of any UKGC licensee or partner - just 18+ would suffice as with other non-advertising or non-promotional content.
There wouldn't be any affiliate links anyway as these are banned by YT and when you get reported, you would get a strike.

 

[CleanMyShoes]

I find it hilarious that Chip is utterly sh*tting himself about these rules lol

He's totally fu*ked when he's no longer allowed to do his carry ons anymore because he's a nobody streamer with no real friends in the business, they'll happily toss the turd overboard and into the north atlantic without hesitation. There's no way he's big enough to move to Malta and carry on there either.

Nicks another one I'd love to see fall foul but he's just to fooking sly and slimy that one, always seems to come out of any s*it he gets into which is annoying. And with him being high up in CasinoGrounds I can see him being offered a place in Malta from Kim anyway, he'll be just fine will that smug c*nt .

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Why has he got two sex toys superimposed onto his face?

Because of that incredibly rare and useless wild symbol you see in the base game every few spins and that huge, absolutely massive multiplier that is clearly visible in that insane screenshot.

I mean look at the arrow pointing towards that wild. Really highlighting what an astonishing sight that is.

WOW indeed.

 

[BrianGhattas]

When did Nick start wearing glasses? Is he still “gambling” to set up a trust fund for his daughter?

 

[Scott1baird]

So is anyone looking forward to playing
Roshtein Megaways by GameArt

I think it look pretty good, cant wait to play it, I wanna be a Roshteinian.

 

[CleanMyShoes]

All of the business is rancid nowadays anyway

All slots are rehashes of previous slots, megaways reskins etc, all of it needs shutting down personally

What happened to some thought going into the slot that is going to take your money? like older 3 reelers with skill stoppers etc?

 

[Mr_Slot5]

So is anyone looking forward to playing
Roshtein Megaways by GameArt

I think it look pretty good, cant wait to play it, I wanna be a Roshteinian.

I ordered you a fedora to get you on your way to greatness

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

That could be the way to defeat bonanza.

 

[neilw]

No, as there is no involvement of any UKGC licensee or partner - just 18+ would suffice as with other non-advertising or non-promotional content.
There wouldn't be any affiliate links anyway as these are banned by YT and when you get reported, you would get a strike.

That's pretty much what I thought, nice to have it confirmed.

 

[Scott1baird]

I ordered you a fedora to get you on your way to greatness

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Brilliant foes it come with free stumble?

 

[pinnit2014]

Brilliant foes it come with free Fstumble?

If you ask nicely, yes i believe*

*Covid-19 test result pending

 

[Mining Might]

I see nickslots today saying he is streaming Rizk on twitch and says casino meister members are wrong and will continue.
Also people were asking Chipmonkz about Age gating but he was just banning them all.
if possible can @rizkaffiliatemanager explain their stance on this?

 

[dunover]

I see nickslots today saying he is streaming Rizk on twitch and says casino meister members are wrong and will continue.
Also people were asking Chipmonkz about Age gating but he was just banning them all.
if possible can @rizkaffiliatemanager explain their stance on this?

Yes, the confusion lies in the fact the LCCP updates in July stated advertising must be age-gated with the third-party's own process, in this case YT's. The UKGC expects all licensees and their agents to adhere to the LCCP, so doesn't necessarily update their site every time the LCCP is changed, as licensees are expected to know this and enact those changes. So if the UKGC doesn't say it on their site directly, people think it's not happening. It is. The fact is that some licensees have picked up on the importance of this update (late!) and what it means and are now panicking to get affiliates in line when it comes to streaming/YT. As far as the UKGC is concerned, it's a case of give 'em enough rope...
The fact that not all licensees have realized the magnitude of the conditions and haven't yet contacted affiliates accordingly doesn't mean (as Chip says) that only some are enforcing it!!! ALL UK licensees must enforce it, irrespective of whether they've contacted the affiliates yet. We've seen this before, a change has been made, like for example making sure crucial terms are present in ads on affiliate websites and very few bothered. Suddenly, the UKGC jumps up and starts asking why and there's a big rush to get affiliates compliant. It's a logical step anyway, as TV and Radio advertising was targeted, then social media (some casinos simply forbade advertising on that medium as they weren't confident they'd be fully in control of the content) then it was e-mail marketing which had strict rules and again some programmes stopped affs from using regardless.

So now outstanding is YT/Twitch which as I said is the logical last step to complete the set of casino advertising mediums. If any casino here reads the July LCCP(6) edition, they will see the crucial paragraphs, like some have already and realize the big trap awaiting them. DO nothing, then the UKGC will suddenly target the matter and be rubbing their hands at the fines they can levy for not complying with the LCCP. "We didn't see it, we weren't aware" etc. simply will not wash. It's their responsibility to notice the LCCP updates. Watch this space....

 

[Mining Might]

Thanks dunover I have downloaded the LCCP July update if possible could you direct me to the paragraphs which are crucial in this respect, as it’s an 80 page document.

edit. I believe this is the relevant document link

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The Third edition of the Code added:
• A requirement that gambling operators carry the required social responsibility and age requirements on consumer-facing marketing content on their YouTube channels.

 

[colinsunderland]

Thanks dunover I have downloaded the LCCP July update if possible could you direct me to the paragraphs which are crucial in this respect, as it’s an 80 page document.

edit. I believe this is the relevant document link

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Ordinary code provision 5.1.8

Compliance with industry advertising codes

All licences

1 Licensees should follow any relevant industry code on advertising, notably the Gambling Industry Code for Socially Responsible Advertising.

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[colinsunderland]

I see nickslots today saying he is streaming Rizk on twitch and says casino meister members are wrong and will continue.
Also people were asking Chipmonkz about Age gating but he was just banning them all.
if possible can @rizkaffiliatemanager explain their stance on this?

well if thats what he said, then he's another fucking arsehole then who will create problems for other affiliates.

 

[colinsunderland]

I see nickslots today saying he is streaming Rizk on twitch and says casino meister members are wrong and will continue.
Also people were asking Chipmonkz about Age gating but he was just banning them all.
if possible can @rizkaffiliatemanager explain their stance on this?

I've just glanced through the video and didn't hear him say anything about people on here being jealous trolls, nor that we are wrong, just that Rizk haven't told him to stop so he's going to continue? Where in the video did he say those things?

While he should read up on things himself, I can say the Betsson group are one of the only ones I haven't had anything from regarding this.

 

[Mining Might]

It was in the first 45 mins of the stream he specifically targets casinomeister and mentions that chip had alerted him to this thread, and chip should not care what bitter jealous trolls think.

21 mins in he says he is not going anywhere until Rizk tell him otherwise.

37.25 mins in he talks about casinomeister.

 

[Mining Might]

Duplicate

 

[Mining Might]

Looks like Rizk have told nick off for his arrogance yesterday, he is only YT streaming now.