Slow Pay [Rogue] WinAsDealer / BeTheDealer group

Roanan

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Known rogue casino WinAsDealer has returned with a new skin and spam campaign:

The ownership isn't even in question:

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VIPBetStar.com is licensed and authorized by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles and operates under the Authority of Master Licensing and Hosting provider Cyberluck Curaao N.V. as an Information Provider legally authorized to conduct online gaming operations.

The casino is owned by White Label Partners Inc and is powered by software provider CV on Net N.V., Emancipatie Blvd 31, Curacao, Netherlands Antilles.


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WinAsDealer is licensed and authorized by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles and operates under the Authority of Master Licensing and Hosting provider Cyberluck Curaao N.V. as an Information Provider legally authorized to conduct online gaming operations.

The casino is owned by White Label Partners Inc and is powered by software provider CV on Net N.V., Emancipatie Blvd 31, Curacao, Netherlands Antilles.



The spam itself is actually coming from the casino.

Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:17:03 +0100
To: xxxxxxxxxx@telusmail.net
From: William Miller <william@vipsstar.org>
Reply-to: william@vipsstar.org
Subject: Claim $50 to try our platform

Click here to Claim Your $50 NO-DEPOSIT require to try our games platform
91.192.195.191/Browsing/welcomeVBS.htm



The IP address/affiliate link shown in the spam is: 91.192.195.191

The IP address for VipBetStar is: 91.192.195.196

The IP address for WinAsDealer is: 91.192.195.199



So of you get anything from them, send it SpamCop and run like hell.
 
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maxd

Complaints (PAB) Manager
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Location
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Just out of curiosity have you ever looked into the possible connections between WinAsDealer (WAD) and BeTheDealer (BTD)?

I started dredging around on this based on some insider info I received but got side-tracked and then very much otherwise occupied.

I thought someone of your demonstrated skills might've found, or be able to find, something interesting.
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
Joined
Oct 6, 2009
Location
Langley, BC...in Canada, eh?
Just out of curiosity have you ever looked into the possible connections between WinAsDealer (WAD) and BeTheDealer (BTD)?

I started dredging around on this based on some insider info I received but got side-tracked and then very much otherwise occupied.

Hmmm.....

What do YOU think? :rolleyes:

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BeTheDealer Casino is licensed and authorized by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles and operates under the Authority of Master Licensing and Hosting provider Cyberluck Curaao N.V. as an Information Provider legally authorized to conduct online gaming operations.

The casino is owned by CV on Net NV, Emancipatie Blvd 31, Curacao, Netherlands Antilles. The support center Casiopea Group Ltd provides customer support to the Casino.


You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

WinAsDealer is licensed and authorized by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles and operates under the Authority of Master Licensing and Hosting provider Cyberluck Curaao N.V. as an Information Provider legally authorized to conduct online gaming operations.

The casino is owned by White Label Partners Inc and is powered by software provider CV on Net N.V., Emancipatie Blvd 31, Curacao, Netherlands Antilles.


(Also notice the first paragraph is word-for-word identical.)
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
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Langley, BC...in Canada, eh?
Okay...initial investigation:

Seeing how the spam contained an IP address as the affiliate link, and that address traces back to a casino, let's start typing in more IP addresses and see what we come up with:

91.192.195.191 = cvgaming.com
91.192.195.192 = PlayAsDealerCasino.com
91.192.195.193 = StartCasinoProgram.com
91.192.195.194 = CasinoRoyaleTbilisi.com
91.192.195.195 = EuropeBetClub.com
91.192.195.196 = VipBetStar.com
91.192.195.198 = 777Dealer.com
91.192.195.199 = WinAsDealer.com


In addition, please note the following contact information for BeTheDealer:

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Contact Us:

E-mail: manager@cvgaming.com
Fax: 18667851836



That is the exact same email and fax number on the 'about us' page for EVERY SINGLE CASINO listed above.


I think that should be sufficient to show that BeTheDealer is the same outfit
 

Roanan

Banned User - abusive flamming - misogynist
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Location
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More....


If I do a search of Curacao eGaming - Cyberluck Curacao N.V.

I find:

Mr. Scott Moar, Director of Technology
scott@cyberluck.com

CONET E-COMMERCE SERVICES N.V.
Vredenburg E-zone
Willemstad - Vredenburg, Curaao 99999
Netherlands Antilles



In doing a whois search of BeTheDealer.com I find:

inetnum: 216.152.173/24
status: reallocated
owner: Conet N.V.
ownerid: AN-CONV-LACNIC
responsible: Scott Moar
address: Pletterijweg Oost, Ara Hilltop Building, A-4,
address: 00000 - Willemstad, Curacao -
country: AN
phone: +599 9 4650288 []



All of the casinos mentioned in this thread (BeTheDealer, WinAsDealer, VipBetStar, etc) have a common principle showing up: Scott Moar

I think that's sufficient proof now.
 

maxd

Complaints (PAB) Manager
Staff member
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Location
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Well done!
 
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