My online slots videos (plus UK AWPs)

PMKFRUITPRO

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Can I have a gold star for watching all of that latest video? Bonanza Megaways, well II think I'd rather take a cheese grater to my balls than sacrifice that much RTP to what is essentially eye candy for 99.9% of players. During the entire video I only saw the lowest JP won a handful of times - maybe 4/5 times of 2.5hrs? Even taking into consideration you can't win a jackpot on each trigger, there still must have been a healthy enough player base across the board to give you an idea how rare the JP hit frequency's can be. Compare that to how often the minor triggers on Mega Moolah and I know which one I would be playing.
I just don't think they've got this one right, particularly with a game that the fans and seasoned players know inside out. Oh, and in your add on in free play where you do actually trigger the feature, why on earth are they using what looks like a picture of the Bellagio Hotel in Las Vegas in the final screen? What the heck has that do to with a Gold Rush themed slot - I wonder whether they had to seek permission to use it.

On Paddy Power the mega was dropping every 10 mins and for some reason seeding back below 300k
 

ChopleyIOM

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Can I have a gold star for watching all of that latest video? Bonanza Megaways, well II think I'd rather take a cheese grater to my balls than sacrifice that much RTP to what is essentially eye candy for 99.9% of players. During the entire video I only saw the lowest JP won a handful of times - maybe 4/5 times of 2.5hrs? Even taking into consideration you can't win a jackpot on each trigger, there still must have been a healthy enough player base across the board to give you an idea how rare the JP hit frequency's can be. Compare that to how often the minor triggers on Mega Moolah and I know which one I would be playing.
I just don't think they've got this one right, particularly with a game that the fans and seasoned players know inside out. Oh, and in your add on in free play where you do actually trigger the feature, why on earth are they using what looks like a picture of the Bellagio Hotel in Las Vegas in the final screen? What the heck has that do to with a Gold Rush themed slot - I wonder whether they had to seek permission to use it.

Yeah as I conclude in the video, it fails at being Bonanza and it fails at being a progressive.

No idea who it's ultimately aimed at TBH.
 

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Was out at the pub with some friends yesterday, had a punt on the random £500 jackpot machine in the pool room.

That video reminds me of why in nearly 2 decades a coin has not passed from me to a AWP or £500 machine in the UK.
 

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That video reminds me of why in nearly 2 decades a coin has not passed from me to a AWP or £500 machine in the UK.

It played like an absolute bag of spanners there unfortunately, didn't even get to see a feature.

It's basically just an online slot though, albeit one with a very modest 250x stake top prize.

I don't think you can really draw any equivalence between compensated AWPs and random machines though, and even though I was able to consistently profit on AWPs (post-2001), I can't say I'm sorry to see the back of them, random games give everyone a fair crack of the whip.
 

PMKFRUITPRO

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Not much of a fair crack of the whip at £1 stake on 80% with a max prize of £100 like in most UK pubs.

That sort of garbage has killed the AWP market not just for professionals but for casuals as well. I mean have u actually played some of the filth they’re putting out? It’s a fucking disgrace. Even Mr Addict would have to think twice.
 

ChopleyIOM

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We don't have any of the £100 UK style random machines here, they're all £500ers and the lowest RTP I've seen them set to is 88%, generally speaking they're 90% or 92%, the highest I've seen is 94%.

TBH I still think a random game on a low RTP is a better bet for the average punter than any sort of compensated AWP (which lest we forget are generally set to 74/76/78%). How much of a game do you think was left for anyone on an Alien that players were on top of :)
 

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one question, just curiosity, please don't look any irony or sarcasm in it, I am from a diferent Country and from a different culture.

I am just trying to understand :)

when you see on such a machine written "RTP 94%" or when you see on a online casino declared "RTP 96%" or such, do you REALLY believe it ?

if yes, do you belive it because you think that these Companies have an ethic ? or because you know that there is some Governative Compamy which is REALLY checking them ? or for whatever other reason ?
 

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We don't have any of the £100 UK style random machines here, they're all £500ers and the lowest RTP I've seen them set to is 88%, generally speaking they're 90% or 92%, the highest I've seen is 94%.

TBH I still think a random game on a low RTP is a better bet for the average punter than any sort of compensated AWP (which lest we forget are generally set to 74/76/78%). How much of a game do you think was left for anyone on an Alien that players were on top of :)
Unless that game had a huge chunk of RTP allocated to the three features, then it didn't seem like 94% to me. I didn't count exactly, but each £20 seemed to give you 35-40 spins so your RTP for the £80 was something like 50%

I tried to emulate your (admittedly very short and limited) RTP in the rtp calculator:

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I got quite near trying 50%

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Fucking dreadful performance, this video should deter all but the most determined headcases from playing those slots!
 

ChopleyIOM

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There's an awful lot of RTP in those three features, if you don't hit the features then it will take you to pieces.

That said I once hit a full screen of sharks for 250x stake (top prize), and I had five bombs which paid 150x last year.

Base game hits are generally what you see in the video, 0.5x-5x stake.
 

Reelsoffun

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Unless that game had a huge chunk of RTP allocated to the three features, then it didn't seem like 94% to me. I didn't count exactly, but each £20 seemed to give you 35-40 spins so your RTP for the £80 was something like 50%

I tried to emulate your (admittedly very short and limited) RTP in the rtp calculator:

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I got quite near trying 50%

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Fucking dreadful performance, this video should deter all but the most determined headcases from playing those slots!

Well, firstly there is two versions of this game ( Hard or Soft ) and the player will have no idea which one they are playing, as the 3 features hit rate stay identical.

As with with any game when your not hitting features you're effectively playing a much lower RTP so as he didn't hit any features he was effectively playing with a 67% RTP on this game.

Hardly a surprising result from the small sample of spins he had from the over 10 billion unique reel outcomes.
 

ChopleyIOM

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I have the par sheets :) But for obvious reasons I can't share exact stats.

I didn't realise they had hard and soft profiles, there are still loads of these around here (Ocean's Eleven and Knight's Tale which seems like a clone/semi-clone maths wise), although if the feature frequency remains the same that seems like a strange way to do the profiles.

Either way, if you're not hitting the features, they are harsh games to play!
 

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Whilst you're about @ChopleyIOM ,

Not signed up to Desert Island Fruits (yet) but wanted to ask, does a dedicated section on there sell 'physical' AWP's or old Club machines?

Looked on e-bay over the years but never seen much of a selection, plus I'd also want original ROMS rather than re-chips.

Used to have 4 when I lived with parents but they were very old and long gone now.
 

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Whilst you're about @ChopleyIOM ,

Not signed up to Desert Island Fruits (yet) but wanted to ask, does a dedicated section on there sell 'physical' AWP's or old Club machines?

Looked on e-bay over the years but never seen much of a selection, plus I'd also want original ROMS rather than re-chips.

Used to have 4 when I lived with parents but they were very old and long gone now.

Hi Jono there's both a 'Real Fruit Machines' and a 'Buy & Sell' forum over at Desert Island Fruits, and even if you can't find what you're after there will be people there you can get in touch with who have access to real machines for sale.

That said however, getting hold of machines with early ROMs in them will be pretty hard work, because of course most real machines out in the wild would have been rechipped back in the day.

TBH if you're wanting to play early ROMs on machines then your best bet is the emulator, as over the years quite a few 'holy grail' early ROM sets have been unearthed and made available to the entire fruit machine emulation scene, which of course can then be loaded into a layout quite easily, rather than trying to get them dumped back out to a physical ROM set that can be put into a real machine.
 
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