The Joy of UK gaming

[shadow123]

Got 3 accounts, Lottomart,365 and pokerstars
Lottomart is ok except I have reached my deposit limit,
365 suspended my account weeks ago and every contact I have made with them just results in
your account is under review and we cant give you a time frame.
Pokerstars have just suspended my account and are asking for docs which I will not supply.
Whats the f*****g point, I tinkered with the idea of going crypto but it would not be sensible to dive into
something I know nothing about and using casinos with no protection.
Getting too old for all this shit, I could open another UK account but the same thing will only happen again.
Always said it was a bad day when the UKGC started regulating casinos but even I didnt think it would be this
bad, with more to come.Think the banks will be soon be prevented from crypto transactions that are linked to
gambling so we will all have shot it.

Thursday rant over , off to walk the dog

Accredited UK Casinos:

• Kwiff Casino
• PlayOJO
• Unibet
• Casumo
• Rizk Casino

 

[shady]

I wouldn't use Pokerstars again, some time ago I ran a fair chunk of change through that site and not a single bonus feature on £2 spins when spending around x2000, I can understand the variables but something doesn't sit right after that.

No documents asked for in that time but I'm sure if a withdrawal would have come into play it would have been prompted.

Lottoland and Lottogo seem ok for what it's worth, both require documents of course but wouldn't expect anything else now.

 

[pinnit2014]

Was never a fan of PS myself - i played there more when they had the 96's for PNG etc but i found their site clunky and not particularly user friendly.

Lottomart are good but also too are the Gamesys sites like Megaways - what i like about them, for now anyway, is they reward your play: and you don't even need to be putting 1000s through. Our house plays there a lot (typically) and you get random Boxes with cash amounts - the one today was a weird £64.56 and that's not even having deposited in 10 days. Limited games but offer the 96's etc as well.

 

[CasinoNinja]

I've been limited with ridicilous low net limit deposits everywhere, it's really stupid especially where they have a NET limit AND a depsoit limit which makes no sense, so if I'm withdrawing the deposit limit is not increased.

The good thing this has resulted is that I've now discovered other UK casinos, and it seems to be Betfred is doing well so far, had many deposits and withdraws which comes back to your account within 2 hours, no questions asked, and I've deposited a few grand in the last 2 days (from winnings!).

To my suprise, they seem to be almost running max RTP on all their slots except for their odd microgaming slots (some not all), lack of Play and go though

 

[slot_zombie]

There is no "joy" in UK gaming, it is akin to chinese water torture, rather than a fun leisure activity.

 

[shady]

I've been limited with ridicilous low net limit deposits everywhere, it's really stupid especially where they have a NET limit AND a depsoit limit which makes no sense, so if I'm withdrawing the deposit limit is not increased.

The good thing this has resulted is that I've now discovered other UK casinos, and it seems to be Betfred is doing well so far, had many deposits and withdraws which comes back to your account within 2 hours, no questions asked, and I've deposited a few grand in the last 2 days (from winnings!).

To my suprise, they seem to be almost running max RTP on all their slots except for their odd microgaming slots (some not all), lack of Play and go though

Curious about Betfred they don't show the rtp in the game info like many others do but they have a list.

betfred.com/rtp-games

Are those max?

 

[dunover]

I've been limited with ridicilous low net limit deposits everywhere, it's really stupid especially where they have a NET limit AND a depsoit limit which makes no sense, so if I'm withdrawing the deposit limit is not increased.

The good thing this has resulted is that I've now discovered other UK casinos, and it seems to be Betfred is doing well so far, had many deposits and withdraws which comes back to your account within 2 hours, no questions asked, and I've deposited a few grand in the last 2 days (from winnings!).

To my suprise, they seem to be almost running max RTP on all their slots except for their odd microgaming slots (some not all), lack of Play and go though

That's EXACTLY how it should be - a real deposit limit as opposed to a LOSS limit, a totally different thing.

The amount of times in the past I have criticized casinos (not UK bookies ones but UKGC-licensed overseas ones) for offering deposit limits which were actually de facto loss limits, misdescribed deliberately to ensure you could spunk back winnings until you hit the loss limit and not walk away with their money until the end of the week/month due to not being able to deposit your profits back.....

A deposit limit is exactly that - whether you lose for example your £100 limit or deposit it and withdraw £30k from it....

 

[L&L-Jan]

yeah but guys common wtf! We had exactly such a limit in place. Net deposit limit. And all we got was complaints and complaints. We amended - and now you state we need to amend it back? WTF! Serious!

Im sure there are even forum topics here regarding how that limit used to work!

 

[09237653]

Hardly anywhere left due to the RTP thing, I want to play certan games and if i cannot find them at 96% I wont bother, can only play so much BTG before my brain starts turning into swiss cheese..

 

[pinnit2014]

Hardly anywhere left due to the RTP thing, I want to play certan games and if i cannot find them at 96% I wont bother, can only play so much BTG before my brain starts turning into swiss cheese..

You like PNG? Gamesy's and Mr Q both have the non- Poundstretcher versions.

Ditto Boylesports

 

[09237653]

You like PNG? Gamesy's and Mr Q both have the non- Poundstretcher versions.

Ditto Boylesports

yes know of mrQ but they dont have many, they did recently get viking runecraft though so there is that. will check out Gamesy, not heard of them before .

21casino and sister site playgrand have many older png at 96% but anything newer than legend of the ice dragon is 94% mostly playing there at the moment, good fast instant cashout as well.

 

[Jono777]

You like PNG? Gamesy's and Mr Q both have the non- Poundstretcher versions.

Ditto Boylesports

Any idea mate what these are like with KYC/SoW etc

Would maybe throw £10-£20 in once or twice a week max.

 

[pinnit2014]

Any idea mate what these are like with KYC/SoW etc

Would maybe throw £10-£20 in once or twice a week max.

*touch wood

Megaways - gamesys - haven't even asked for a copy of the card used, let alone ID (presume background) - played there quite a bit, deposits well in excess of 10k (L and L would SOW you 5 times ) so, touch wood, no issues.I like them cos of their freebies as well: these are all very random loyalty offers they have gave out over the last month, so no complaints (it can be erratic when they come - played more there in Jan/Feb and was probably getting 300 quid plus - seems based on wagering as did ok withdrawal wise here)Probably will disappear soon but nice perks nonetheless

Boylesports -3k maybe?They might have asked for a card picture but that was it - but they do send RG emails so may be teetering on asking for SOW etc.

Mr Q have never asked for SOW and that's with about 20k plus of depos probably...only downside, their selection of games is erratic as Mr Number user name points out

 

[09237653]

mr Q have forced a 500/month deposit limit on me but no SOW requests as of yet but its only recently I have started playing more there due to virgin games changing RTP on gigantoonz and other pngs so that may change, did 180 in 2 days a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Jono777]

Have to do something.

Not going to moan in their thread, pointless but there is more than wheel and battle cut backs going on at VS.

Ain't a sore loser but also don't like having the piss taken out of me. last 20+ deposits of £10-£20 over last month, maybe longer have all bust in record time and not even got ahead a £1 all of these times, to me that is neither random, nor gambling at all.

Playtime on each and every occasion has been none existent, WB about 0.10p/0.20p max and the whole point is to cull my boredom after work.

No foil hats either as we win some, lose some but not this much in a row surely?

 

[bamberfishcake]

Have to do something.

Not going to moan in their thread, pointless but there is more than wheel and battle cut backs going on at VS.

Ain't a sore loser but also don't like having the piss taken out of me. last 20+ deposits of £10-£20 over last month, maybe longer have all bust in record time and not even got ahead a £1 all of these times, to me that is neither random, nor gambling at all.

Playtime on each and every occasion has been none existent, WB about 0.10p/0.20p max and the whole point is to cull my boredom after work.

No foil hats either as we win some, lose some but not this much in a row surely?

Mate, I have the same with Unibet. To the point where I am spinning with negative thoughts of busting out early. I guess, preparing myself for a lost depo, so I dont depo there as much anymore.

Switch sites. Put your money somewhere new. No point in flogging a dead horse.

 

[CasinoNinja]

That's EXACTLY how it should be - a real deposit limit as opposed to a LOSS limit, a totally different thing.

The amount of times in the past I have criticized casinos (not UK bookies ones but UKGC-licensed overseas ones) for offering deposit limits which were actually de facto loss limits, misdescribed deliberately to ensure you could spunk back winnings until you hit the loss limit and not walk away with their money until the end of the week/month due to not being able to deposit your profits back.....

A deposit limit is exactly that - whether you lose for example your £100 limit or deposit it and withdraw £30k from it....

Well I disagree that we need a deposit limit as well as a .net limit. In some casinos they have limited me to say £500, if I win £4k, I want to come back at somepoint and try again. Not to be nannied over what winnings I could lose. .NET lose limit is what is important to most if you think about responsible gambling.

 

[CasinoNinja]

Curious about Betfred they don't show the rtp in the game info like many others do but they have a list.

betfred.com/rtp-games

Are those max?

Prag is max, most of microgaming, red tiger is mid, and the others are max I think. Think that list is correct

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Well I disagree that we need a deposit limit as well as a .net limit. In some casinos they have limited me to say £500, if I win £4k, I want to come back at somepoint and try again. Not to be nannied over what winnings I could lose. .NET lose limit is what is important to most if you think about responsible gambling.

Exactly, if a person has a £50 a week budget and manage to win 5k, that 5k then becomes part of the gambling budget.

If they can afford to gamble the initial £50 then they can certainly afford to gamble the 5k. That’s the essence of gambling…some people will take the 5k win and buy nice things and others will play back into slots- nothing wrong with that, it’s called free choice…something that’s appears to be being eroded.

 

[snorky510238]

Have to do something.

Not going to moan in their thread, pointless but there is more than wheel and battle cut backs going on at VS.

Ain't a sore loser but also don't like having the piss taken out of me. last 20+ deposits of £10-£20 over last month, maybe longer have all bust in record time and not even got ahead a £1 all of these times, to me that is neither random, nor gambling at all.

Playtime on each and every occasion has been none existent, WB about 0.10p/0.20p max and the whole point is to cull my boredom after work.

No foil hats either as we win some, lose some but not this much in a row surely?

I have been saying this about Videoslots for a while now. Something definitely wrong there. I have had exactly the same thing happen. Made around 60 consecutive losing deposits (unbelievable). Got a win for a couple of hundred quid, thought that must be a one off but nope, almost exactly the same happened again and again.

They are definitely running an even more bent version of Bonanza than other Casinos because I have played the game for long enough to know when something is amiss. I’ll PM you with the the telling factor. They are also running watered down versions of Netent games. DOA and Wtb to mention a few. Possibly the most bent Casino on the market, although there is some stiff competition.

@bamberfishcake, I have definitely noticed a decline regarding Unibet too. Not as bad as Videoslots but nowhere near as good as they used to be. Something definitely changed that’s for sure.

 

[justdoit]

I am still ok with UK casinos I drop my stake to 20p 40p, 90% of my play is doa 09p 18p try to avoid talking to casinos, before u start playing crypto do u research lot of bad crypto casinos with fake slots

 

[shadow123]

Net loss limits are the the only sensible way to go, many casino are imposing deposit limits of only a few 100 a month,which equates
to probably 10 pounds a day or less which is is totally useless, gives you 2 options, deposit in small amounts and get zero gameplay or
or make a couple of larger deposit in the hope of building up a decent balance,if you win and and want to continue playing you cant
really withdraw.
Either way, the casinos will probably win, pure deposit limits do not reflect the actual cost to the player but its probably the only
thing the UKGC understand.
Step by step, the industry is being destroyed by people who have zero knowledge of the implications of the effect of all the shit regs
they are churning out and cannot see the bigger picture.

 

[Mark_Lottomart]

Net loss limits are the the only sensible way to go, many casino are imposing deposit limits of only a few 100 a month,which equates
to probably 10 pounds a day or less which is is totally useless, gives you 2 options, deposit in small amounts and get zero gameplay or
or make a couple of larger deposit in the hope of building up a decent balance,if you win and and want to continue playing you cant
really withdraw.
Either way, the casinos will probably win, pure deposit limits do not reflect the actual cost to the player but its probably the only
thing the UKGC understand.
Step by step, the industry is being destroyed by people who have zero knowledge of the implications of the effect of all the shit regs
they are churning out and cannot see the bigger picture.

FYI: We’re not too far away from releasing net loss limits to players as an alternative to deposit limits. Should be next week hopefully.

 

[justdoit]

Net loss limits are the the only sensible way to go, many casino are imposing deposit limits of only a few 100 a month,which equates
to probably 10 pounds a day or less which is is totally useless, gives you 2 options, deposit in small amounts and get zero gameplay or
or make a couple of larger deposit in the hope of building up a decent balance,if you win and and want to continue playing you cant
really withdraw.
Either way, the casinos will probably win, pure deposit limits do not reflect the actual cost to the player but its probably the only
thing the UKGC understand.
Step by step, the industry is being destroyed by people who have zero knowledge of the implications of the effect of all the shit regs
they are churning out and cannot see the bigger picture.

I have £200 lose limit in one of the casino, last week I won £1200 my lose limit jump from £200 to £1200,

 

[Mark_Lottomart]

I have £200 lose limit in one of the casino, last week I won £1200 my lose limit jump from £200 to £1200,

Sorry if I’ve misunderstood, but that’s exactly how it works. If it’s a deposit limit of £200 you can’t deposit more. If you’ve got a loss limit of £200 and you win, the loss limit will increase as you are in profit… for example you can’t lose?

I put a loss limit on my accounts. If it was £10 a month (it’s not) then if I won £1000 I’m £1000 in profit and therefore could spend that back.

It’s why deposit limits and loss limits should be used in combination.

Mark