OK, before you all round up the posse and start making your way up to the castle with flaming torches and pitch forks - let's get a few things clear...
Alan has managed to fill out several pages of this thread by posting and continually reposting quotes of others. Unfortunately, he uses these out of all context and without any further explanation in the hope that this will aid his cause.
Instead of trying to shine a light on to this rapidly escalating thread to reveal the truth, he continues to add to the sh1t storm that actually obscures the truth and makes the whole thing more difficult for the rest of us to unravel.
I am however, eternally grateful to him for selecting the sources he did.
Lets look at his quote from Yoshiii. You can read more about him here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/kanawake-go-wackykekeke.19342/
He is now banned from this forum
Could this be the same guy who had accounts at mansion under the name Yoshimaru and Ondole and Cuong Nguyen?
Could this be the same guy who brought only 6 players to mansion, 5 of whom qualified and triggered payments (wow that's a great ratio, isn't it!?) Three of the accounts deposited via a CC in their own names. Oddly enough all three CC's had EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBER.
That's odd don't you think, Alan?
What's more, all accounts had the same IP - need I go on or shall I explain further why this guy didn't get paid by Mansion?
The issues are further confused by some suggesting that in some cases Mansion askes the Affiliate to provide ID for their players. That's simply a misunderstanding. We wouldn't ask an affilaite to do that, however we will ask the 'players' to verify their play accounts with ID and in this particular case do you know that not one of the 5 players provided
any ID to dispprove our suspicions?
The quote from Jackpot13 is a little harder for me as I'm not the greatest forum detective. Alan, can you post the URL of the thread this quote originally appeared in, please?
However, it does sound
eerily familiar to a few other cases we had around Oct/Nov last year.
You see, at the time we agreed with
a few chosen affiliates to offer $10 free to their referred players. This can invite bonus abuse, of course but is obviously a great short-cut for us
all to bring in players
but as you can imagine, a scenario where the player uses 'our' free $10 to play and trigger a much larger CPA to the affiliate without depositing, we adjusted the CPA amounts and play requirements for these few chosen affiliates.
Unfortunately,
one or two other affiliates saw this and decided to get a little 'creative' in their promotions. They started to tell people that Mansion would also give
their players a free $10. These promotions were
never agreed in advance with Mansion.
When we found out about this we made a decision to still pay the players as a goodwill gesture as they had been duped. However it was never likely that we were going to pay the affiliate a whole heap of CPA that came not from depositors but from our own money.
The issue received quite a bit of attention as you can see here:
and there is further detail here:
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Now there is no way for me to know the mansion affiliate account name of Jackpot13 or whether or not he is the one mentioned in the links above but either way they sound like one of the few who decided to get mansion to pay bonuses to their referred players without the courtesy of actually tellings us this in the first place!
Both examples mentioned are affiliates who did indeed pass the 5 QA threshold and did not get paid. The reason being that they were identified by the Mansion Risk team as 'Fraud Traffic' as defined in the mansion Affiliate T&C's.
Now whilst the first case of Yoshii may seem an open and shut case of fraud let me explain why jackpot13 falls under the same banner when it may seem a bit harsh to brand him a fraud. If you read the T&C's (Alan, I'm looking at you!) point 1.1 - right there at the top - deals with fraud traffic. The definition given for this also includes offering promotions without the express consent of mansion:
"Fraud Traffic" means transactions, deposits, withdrawals, revenues or traffic generated on the Services through illegal means or any other action committed in bad faith to defraud us
Personally I think Jackpot13 tried to be cute or maybe he misunderstood the whole thing. Anyway, unlike Yoshii we did not close the account and recover funds but we informed him of our findings and the reasons for our decision and switched his account to 40% rev share. He will be able to request withdrawals when the rev share figure generated matches the value of those CPA's triggered by an unauthorised promotion. Essentially we are asking him to pay it back. I still think that, in the circumstances, 40% rev share was a generous offer.
And finally...., YES; if Alan has a change of heart we can switch his account to 'Rev Share Only'and two more players will get him across the finish line.
I appreciate your patience with the length of this post but a number of issues had been raised that I feel I simply had to address.
Anthony
