DOA not available to Canadians at Videoslots now???

[hoff1985]

Thank God Switzerland is not there.... I really need NetEnt )

 

[funnymunny]

Hi Lucas,

Thanks for the reply & does help re you stating there's no deadline, however I am still somewhat confused...

The countries I gave/where I am able to continue playing NetEnt games (Isle of Man & Gibraltar) are crown dependencies of the UK. Yes they are both also a jurisdiction that issues gaming licenses, but these licenses aren't required in order to allow a site to accept players from those locations. E.g. Stan James & BetVictor are both licensed in Gib, Unibet & Betsson are licensed in Malta & SkyVegas is Licensed in Alderney. None of these sites hold a specific Isle of Man gaming license (complete list of licensees

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), but all of these sites still offer players on the Isle of Man access to NetEnt Games.

There was a previous thread started by ChopleyIOM when Sky Vegas appeared to have a wobble with players (click here), however this appears to have only been a short-lived issue (as it was resolved within a few hours & as per above, I can certainly access Net Ent games on their 'Vegas' site today).

I would recommend seeking clarity on the situation from NetEnt, as there may be some misinterpretation somewhere along the way(?).

 

[VS_Lucas]

Hi funnymunny,

You're welcome.

The brands who are not licensed within these regulated markets are risking having their agreements revoked should they not apply this update.

who offers NetEnt and doesn't not comply with these regulations which were added from NetEnt themselves, then they will never be able to enter these markets with NetEnt later on. (given that they are yet to be licensed in the countries in question of course.)

Kind Regards,
Lucas

 

[bigjohn]

We have seen this before here in the US.

When the ax dropped here Cryptologic/Intercasino pulled out of the US immediately when requested to do so and became one of the first suppliers welcomed back in the newly regulated US/New Jersey market and their games have been available from day one at the Caesars on line casino. Microgaming pulled out a little slower and lingered around for a while with a slightly different look and as a result, nearly a year after regulation began we still have no Microgaming games available here.

Aside from the immediate inconvenience to affected players, by complying with NetEnt, VideoSlots are assuring they will be welcomed into any regulated markets as they become available.

 

[funnymunny]

I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make, so apologies if it was unclear...

Denmark, Italy, Belgium, Spain & France (as well as Estonia) all have implemented restrictions requiring anyone offering games to residents of those countries to hold a gaming license from that country. US Virgin Islands & United States of America have stated that (with a few exceptions), online gambling is not allowed. Canada (as far as I'm aware) hasn't stated that a specific license is needed, or that online gambling is not allowed. I have absolutely no idea about the state of play in North Korea (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea), or Iran.

Isle of Man (and as far as I'm aware Gibraltar & Alderney) are still 'open' in terms of online gambling. I.e. As long as an Operator holds a valid gaming license from an approved jurisdiction, you can offer your games to residents.

I would hazard a guess that the sites mentioned in my previous post (especially those which are publicly traded) have significant resources to research changing regulations & contracts, and aren't likely to jeopardise their relationship with a major software provider (as well as their revenues from the games from all other countries) just to eek out the last few coins from a few players in the crown dependencies. (I would imagine it would also be a share-price disaster if any of the PLC's were found to be acting in contravention of their gaming licenses and/or licensing agreements with software providers).

I am happy to be proved wrong, but to the best of my knowledge you're the only site who's now blocking NetEnt games for players in the Isle of Man, hence suggesting getting clarity on the situation from them. If I'm right, you can open-up your games again (and make more money). If I'm wrong, then you may be the only site left offering NetEnt games to anyone (so again, will make more money). Could be a win/win situation for you

 

[VS_Lucas]

Hi funnymunny,

As said earlier, offering countries the ability to play on the software in question which Netent has specifically asked us to block is a risk which we are not willing to take.

If other companies want to take that risk, it's their call. And if Canada was open for gambling, Skrill and other payment solutions wouldn't have blocked gaming transactions in that region either.

Kind Regards,
Lucas

 

[funnymunny]

Hi funnymunny,

As said earlier, offering countries the ability to play on the software in question which Netent has specifically asked us to block is a risk which we are not willing to take.

If other companies want to take that risk, it's their call. And if Canada was open for gambling, Skrill and other payment solutions wouldn't have blocked gaming transactions in that region either.

Kind Regards,
Lucas

I didn't say Canada was open for Gambling, and I also didn't say you should take risks. What I said (or suggested) was that you seek clarity from NetEnt about Isle of Man, Gibraltar, and Alderney.

Clearly we're going to have to agree to disagree. As a resident of both IoM & Gib, and someone who's worked with casinos, software providers, and Regulators in both jurisdictions I thought I would try to offer some friendly advice from someone 'on the ground'. No worries if it's not required.