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here is a story about a mom who has cancer and has lost her madicaid just click on the link if not goggle it "Regime Drops Cancer Victim's Medicaid, Sentences Her to Death ...
Apr 13, 2010 ... Regime Drops Cancer Victim's Medicaid, Sentences Her to Death. Government-run health care drops a sick mom. ...

i thought everyone was going to get healthcare?
 
OK I googled those words and every website was a flaming "righty" site, so I did not bother opening. So I scrolled down and at least found AARP which I thought would be unbiased, here is what they have posted-

Diana Smith has gone through six months of radiation and chemotherapy -- one week out of every month. She is in remission and had a donor for a transplant; being in remission is a prerequisite for the transplant. But her hopes of receiving the transplant were dashed in March, when she says, the Social Security Administration contacted her -- without her soliciting it -- and told her that her three-year-old son was entitled to receive Social Security disability payments. Even though she didn't ask for it, she signed the form and received her son's first check check [sic]. In April, Medicaid canceled her universal health care policy because her income level had risen with her son's payments -- making her ineligible for the insurance program."

My friends, the largest insurance company in the United States, the United States government and its CEO Obama, tricked a woman! They tricked a woman out of getting off her medical coverage. Since when does the Social Security Administration start soliciting?


To me this seems to be just some bullshit bureaucracy and not really anything to do with the new health care. Will read up a little more since this isn't enough detail for me and I am not bothering unless I can find a legitimate news source.
 
Well she is getting help-
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Which is good to hear.

I could not find any more real legit detail but I did find this comment in response to the story which makes it a little clearer (for me), I edited out the posters bad words and insults, in case anyone else sees this when googling, lol.-

"First -Medicaid is a state run program for low income patients. It's been around for decades and has nothing to do with the recent reform legislation.

Secondly, the reason she was dropped is because her income increased unexpectedly and, therefore, surpassed the income limitations.

Ironically, this puts her exactly into the group for which the healthcare reform legislation is designed to provide assistance, ie: people who make too much to qualify for Medicare and too little to afford insurance premiums - about 30 million people in this country.

So, actually, this story is a about the merits of the reform legislation, not about the failure of reform."


In all reality this stuff happened BEFORE healthcare reform and it will probably continue for long after. I am sure everyone has a horror story about a friend, relative, whatever who has run into this kind of situation when dealing with our healthcare/government system. ~Redandi
 
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here is a story about a mom who has cancer and has lost her madicaid just click on the link if not goggle it "Regime Drops Cancer Victim's Medicaid, Sentences Her to Death ...
Apr 13, 2010 ... Regime Drops Cancer Victim's Medicaid, Sentences Her to Death. Government-run health care drops a sick mom. ...

i thought everyone was going to get healthcare?

:lolup: kauphy!!! We've already heard these jokes, c'mon!
 
:lolup: kauphy!!! We've already heard these jokes, c'mon!
for one thing its not a joke. and one of my friends wanted to post this on here but could,nt so i will.

Now this is more like it. Don't mess with us "old folks"!!!




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Seriously kauphy, do you really think that's funny? You've got Beck and Limpballs and the Talibunny and Bachmann calling for "rebellion" and putting Democrats, gays, free thinking women, and everyone who isn't that certain extra special crispy recipe Christian in CROSSHAIRS fer chrissakes. It's NOT funny, it's become freaking REALITY.
Yeah, I know...if I don't like it, don't look at it.
 
I was saying there's gonna be a revolution back in 2004.

its here baby!

you forgot Sarah Palin, oh she was here in boston yesterday, sorry I missed it. :rolleyes:
 
I was saying there's gonna be a revolution back in 2004.

its here baby!

you forgot Sarah Palin, oh she was here in boston yesterday, sorry I missed it. :rolleyes:

Talibunny is Palin. I should have said Caribou Barbie.:lolup:

And to the putz who emailed me calling me a hypocrite because of my avatar...if you can't see the irony of Betty White with a gun...then there is no hope for you.
 
Seriously kauphy, do you really think that's funny? You've got Beck and Limpballs and the Talibunny and Bachmann calling for "rebellion" and putting Democrats, gays, free thinking women, and everyone who isn't that certain extra special crispy recipe Christian in CROSSHAIRS fer chrissakes. It's NOT funny, it's become freaking REALITY.
Yeah, I know...if I don't like it, don't look at it.

gezz swampwitch lighten up one of my friends wanted to put that on there and did,nt know how so i did it for her. i do hope we all rise up and take r country back. how we do it i don,t know i hope it does,nt come down to war here in the u.s but listening to some people and how they r blind to whats going on i think that is where this will lead.
 
You tell me to lighten up while spouting "rise up and take our country back" in the same sentence. Sickening.

I don't have a problem with ignorant people...I have a problem with ignorant on purpose.
 
You tell me to lighten up while spouting "rise up and take our country back" in the same sentence. Sickening.

I don't have a problem with ignorant people...I have a problem with ignorant on purpose.

i,m glad you don,t have a promble with urself. the way i look at it with all these sheelps is u just can,t fix stupid oh wait that goes for mr. obama 2
 
OK, you win. I bow to your intelligence, political expertise, and moral superiority.:notworthy

you know its the way i look at things. we all see things diffdently and we will always agree to disagree. but it seems to me whenever i post something the same people come after me and have to get nasty about things and try to put me down on things that i post. its not weather you agree or disagree. the things i post r to me inportant and there r like minded people on here that do get things from my post other then a chance to make themself feel good by putting someone eles down or make themself feel smarter by trying to make someone eles sound dumb. the only good thing is no one on here can stop a person from posting other then max and the big guy. so if you don,t like what one is saying then don,t read it. that being said i will bow out of this one caz after this i,m sure there will be nothing said worth coming back to. and as i said before if you don,t like it don,t read it.:D
 
I think this article here in todays Washington Examiner purdy much sums it all up....



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By: Chris Stirewalt
Political Editor
April 15, 2010


Three years ago, the Republican establishment piled scorn on the presidential candidacy of Ron Paul.

Today, he is in a statistical tie with President Obama in 2012 polling. His son, an ophthalmologist who has never run for elective office, is well ahead of not only the GOP's handpicked candidate for Senate in Kentucky but also both Democratic contenders -- all statewide officeholders.

What happened? Did America suddenly develop an insatiable appetite for 74-year-old, cranky congressmen from Texas? Is the gold standard catching on?

Paul will not likely be the next president. And his son still faces the most arduous part of his journey as Democrats spend millions to paint him as soft on defense, lax on drug enforcement and too radical on welfare programs.

But there's no doubt that hating the government and the powerful interests that pull Washington's strings has gone from the radical precincts of the Right and Left to the mainstream.

It turns out that watching Goldman Sachs, the United Auto Workers, public employee unions and a raft of other vampires drain the treasury at America's weakest moment in a generation will make a person pretty hacked off.

After Barack Obama's election, Democrats assumed that the American people were battered, bruised and ready for a morphine drip of European-style socialism. Republicans, shocked by their stunning reversals, figured the Democrats were right and started looking for technocrats of their own.

And in a political system fueled by special-interest money, it was hard for the leaders of major parties to imagine anything other than an activist government. After all, if you pay for someone to get elected, you don't expect him to just sit there.

Just 18 months ago the leaders of both parties were quite sure that Obama would be the popular, transformative president he aspires to be. The Republicans who emerged from the wreckage of November were certain to look a lot more like Charlie Crist and Mitt Romney than Marco Rubio and Ron Paul.

But Crist's embrace of Obamanomics seems to have utterly destroyed his chances at a Senate seat that was once his for the taking. Romney, considered a near lock for the 2012 Republican nomination, has seen his candidacy badly damaged by a populist revolt against the passage of a national health care plan that looks like the one he designed for Massachusetts.

Obama, who said that passage of his health plan proved that Washington could still do big things, finds himself deeply at odds with an electorate that is not confident of government's ability to do anything at all.

His election has turned out to be not the result of a national lurch toward government intervention but his own skill at disguising his policies, the failures of the Republican Party and the bursting of the lending bubble.

A year ago, the tea parties caught most everyone by surprise.

It was a conservative flash mob and hundreds of thousands of Americans took to the streets.

Republicans scrambled to get to the head of the parade and Democrats claimed that it was all a put-up job by their enemies in the special interest wars. The press tried to treat what had been a spontaneous outburst as if it were a traditional political party and asked all the questions they teach in journalism school: Who's in charge? Who are they opposed to? Is it racist?

This year, the political parties and the press will not be caught off guard. Republican politicians will address tea party rallies, Democrats will denounce the supposed puppeteers of the movement and the press will look for hate speech.

But few will glean the real meaning of the protests or the booming support for Ron and Rand Paul.

It's not about the Pauls themselves or the guys with the "Don't tread on me" flags It's about the people at home who might not be willing to march in the park or join the next Paul money bomb, but who don't blame the folks who do.

Libertarian sentiment has finally gone mainstream.

A movement that said that people should do whatever they wanted as long as it didn't hurt anyone else couldn't compete during the culture wars that began in the 1960s.

But after two wars, a $12 trillion debt, a financial crisis and the most politically tone-deaf president in modern history, Americans may have finally given up on big government.

Chris Stirewalt is the political editor of the Washington Examiner. He can be reached at [email protected].



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for one thing its not a joke. and one of my friends wanted to post this on here but could,nt so i will.

Now this is more like it. Don't mess with us "old folks"!!!




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:thumbsup: Now THAT I like!!! XLNT post, sir! And the rhetorical circles you've so effortlessly run around those misdirected posters foolish enough to be at odds with you? Stunning!
 
But you had to get the mean out first didn't you. I gotta wonder why someone so quick to lash out against another's beliefs is so full of hate and discontentment. Maybe your way isn't really working for you at all.

I don't have a problem with anyone's beliefs. I have a problem when those beliefs are based on the hate and fear-mongering talking points that come from Faux "News" infotainers and other lying liars who lie. All kauphy does is parrot what he's told by people in whose best interest it is to keep a status quo of the rich get richer, the whites get whiter, the poor get poorer, and the different go to jail or are exterminated for their differences. Kauphy's not stupid, but he refuses to believe that maybe, just maybe, it might be a good idea to check Snopes or Factcheck.org once in awhile.

I'll cop to being mean, but he got off the first salvos with every post where he accuses pretty much everyone who doesn't agree with him of being "sheeple".
 
I, too, owe an apology and a correction of my last post. Apparently, "XLNT post, sir!" should of read, "XLNT post, madam!" An honest mistake as I rarely attribute such fine and delicate turns of phrase, especially when laced with such high and indefensible darts of wit, to women, a deficit of chauvinism mine, alone, to bear. :o
 
his words not mine but i agree.





Subject: Fw: We've figured him out by Ben Stein












"What's Happened is that WE'VE FIGURED HIM OUT "



WE'VE FIGURED HIM OUT! By Ben Stein


Why is President Barack Obama in such a hurry to get his socialized medicine bill passed?

Because he and his cunning circle realize some basic truths:

The American people in their unimaginable kindness and trust voted for a pig in a poke in 2008. Pig in a poke means: an offering or deal that is foolishly accepted without being examined first. A poke means sack.

They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith.

They ignored his anti-white writings in his books.

They ignored his quiet acceptance of hysterical anti-American diatribes by his minister, Jeremiah Wright..

They ignored his refusal to explain years at a time of his life as a student.

They ignored his ultra-left record as a "community organizer," Illinois state legislator, and Senator.

The American people ignored his total zero of an academic record as a student and teacher, his complete lack of scholarship when he was being touted as a scholar.

Now, the American people are starting to wake up to the truth. Barack Obama is a super likeable super leftist, not a fan of this country. The American people have already awakened to the truth that the stimulus bill -- a great idea in theory -- was really an immense bribe to Democrat interest groups, and in no way helped all Americans.

The American people already know that Mr.. Obama's plan to lower health costs while expanding coverage and bureaucracy is a myth, a promise of something that never was and never can be --
"a bureaucracy lowering costs in a free society." Either the costs go up or the free society goes away... a historical truth.

These are perilous times.. Mrs. Hillary Clinton, our Secretary of State, has given Iran the go-ahead to have nuclear weapons, an unqualified betrayal of the nation. Now, we face a devastating loss of freedom at home in health care. It will be joined by controls on our lives to "protect us "from global warming, itself largely a fraud if believed to be caused by man."

Mr. Obama knows Americans are getting wise and will stop him if he delays at all in taking away our freedoms. There is his urgency and our opportunity. Once freedom is lost, America is lost. Wake up, beloved America .

Ben Stein is a writer, economist, and lawyer living in Beverly Hills and Malibu . He writes "Ben Stein's Diary" for every issue of The American Spectator..
 
There have been a few low blows swung here by folks who seem to be using personal criticism as an extension of their differing political opinions and implied moral superiority, and I hope this trend is not going to continue, because it pretty much destroys any hope of a useful conversation.

Politics is always going to be an emotive subject, especially among Americans where the divide between Republicans and Democrats just seems to get wider and meaner due to the efforts of followers on both sides who clearly have passionate views on the superiority of their beliefs and even morals.

The temptation to lash out is considerable, but really not productive imo.
 
I don't have a problem with anyone's beliefs. I have a problem when those beliefs are based on the hate and fear-mongering talking points that come from Faux "News" infotainers and other lying liars who lie. All kauphy does is parrot what he's told by people in whose best interest it is to keep a status quo of the rich get richer, the whites get whiter, the poor get poorer, and the different go to jail or are exterminated for their differences. Kauphy's not stupid, but he refuses to believe that maybe, just maybe, it might be a good idea to check Snopes or Factcheck.org once in awhile.

I'll cop to being mean, but he got off the first salvos with every post where he accuses pretty much everyone who doesn't agree with him of being "sheeple".

o.k for one i,m not a guy for number 2 i don,t check snopes caz it is just a wife and her husband who surf the inter net and read things. if you did,nt know they had a big write up on them and alot of the facts that they think r facts were not. number 3 show me where i post something nasty unless someone says something to me frist and then they really got to get nasty with me before i get nasty back. number 4 i did not call you a sheeply i said with all these sheeply not aimed at u unless you took it that way. number 5 i have a son who some would love to see gone caz they think he is no good for anything caz he is diffdent and i have a girl who is gay and i,m also a very outspoken women and on top of all of that i also belive in God. let me ask you something where do u get all ur info from? no its not something that is told to me just like most of you guys on here i find it on the internet or it is sent to me by one of my groups. and why is it everything i post is wrong with you caz i don,t kiss the goverment s ass? so that makes me wrong? and i don,t care if ur black or white or rich or poor or anything like that. swampwitch you might be shocked at the things i belive in and do not post on here. geee it might just match some of ur own belifes. god forebid. i don,t know why u got mad at the word sheeply i did,nt get mad at the word ignorant. you did,nt aim that at me did you just like i did,nt aim sheeply at you. rant done.
 
There have been a few low blows swung here by folks who seem to be using personal criticism as an extension of their differing political opinions and implied moral superiority, and I hope this trend is not going to continue, because it pretty much destroys any hope of a useful conversation.

Politics is always going to be an emotive subject, especially among Americans where the divide between Republicans and Democrats just seems to get wider and meaner due to the efforts of followers on both sides who clearly have passionate views on the superiority of their beliefs and even morals.

The temptation to lash out is considerable, but really not productive imo.

you r so right. but i really don,t like eather side and wish we could get the whole lot of them out. but u r right and i will stop now.
 
You don't like either side...BS...you've had nothing positive to say about democrats or Obama but I've not heard you criticize one GOP member. Give me a break and then you post that garbage from a actor/economist like his words carry a lot of weight or any weight at all. I surmise that it's pointless talkin to you bc all you want to do is divide and persuade and it's not workiing.
 
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you r so right. but i really don,t like eather side and wish we could get the whole lot of them out. but u r right and i will stop now.

You don't like either side...BS...you've had nothing positive to say about democrats or Obama but I've not heard you criticize one GOP member. Give me a break and then you post that garbage from a actor/economist like his words carry a lot of weight or any weight at all. I surmise that it's pointless talkin to you bc all you want to do is divide and persuade and it's not workiing.

I have never made it a secret that im a strong GOP supporter and that i dont like the over spending and the back room dealing that is going on right now with the current admin.

Kauphy has my respect as well as Gloria and alot of other posters that have different political veiws from mine, it would suck if we all agreed 100% of the time on everything that is going on within our country and world.

I read all the political rants as i want to know what others are thinking whether they be Republican, Democrat, Tea Party or Left Wingers, its in the best interest of us as a nation to see all points and draw our own conclusions from it.

We should all agree that the economy is in a mess here at home and abroad and needs to be the first thought on every World Leaders mind daily, we elect them to office in a "free Democratic society", so when they dont do what they promised, we have the rights as a people of free voice as our Constitution dictates to make our concerns known...............Thats Freedom of Speech and all are entitled, its been payed for by many generations of those who have put their lives on the line so that we have that right and its not just those in the military, its our Police, Firefighters, Doctors and Nurses and Teachers, Moms and Dads, it is US !!!!!!

Laurie
 
Laurie,

I have no problem at all with what you just stated. I have a very strong democratic background but I have voted republican when I thought that was the best candidate for the job. I don't let my party affliation get in the way of my country. I respect you for it and we will certainly not agree on some of the points that you make but they are your beliefs and I respect that.

What I don't like is the constant lies being told about the healthcare bill and Obama. I don't like Bush but when he was in the white house I respected him and what I'm seeing from GOP members is total disrespect and not even listening to what Obama or anybody else is saying.

The only way for this country to get back out of this recession is for everyone to work together. If country is first then your party should be second.
 
Laurie,

I have no problem at all with what you just stated. I have a very strong democratic background but I have voted republican when I thought that was the best candidate for the job. I don't let my party affliation get in the way of my country. I respect you for it and we will certainly not agree on some of the points that you make but they are your beliefs and I respect that.

What I don't like is the constant lies being told about the healthcare bill and Obama. I don't like Bush but when he was in the white house I respected him and what I'm seeing from GOP members is total disrespect and not even listening to what Obama or anybody else is saying.

The only way for this country to get back out of this recession is for everyone to work together. If country is first then your party should be second.


Great post Gloria and this is what i like to read in this section, everyones thoughts.


I still have hopes in President Obama but i just have high concerns that he is being influenced by some who think that they can re write the constitution on a whim and spend money that our great grandchildren will never be able to payback, thats a tax buden on our future generations.

I have concerns over China owning so many IOU's by our goverment .

I have concerns over keeping more jobs here at home and not shipping them overseas.

I have concerns over stopping 2 wars and bringing home our troops.

I have concerns about illegals from Mexico and the drug wars going on at the boarder and spreading into places in Arizona and Texas, where people are being butchered.

These are major items that need attention now not later from our President and his Admin as they are the ruling party in the Congress and Senate.

I just want to see the Change that was promised, to much time was spent on a health bill that clearly most Americans dont want. We do need health care reform and that i agree on, but if the economy doesnt shift and jobs brought back and countries that are plotting to nuke their neighbor isnt stopped we will all cease to exist from this earth and wont have the need for health care at all imo.


Laurie
 
Great post Gloria and this is what i like to read in this section, everyones thoughts.


I still have hopes in President Obama but i just have high concerns that he is being influenced by some who think that they can re write the constitution on a whim and spend money that our great grandchildren will never be able to payback, thats a tax buden on our future generations.

In order for us to have dug ourselves somewhat out of the hole that we're 1/3 of the way out of money had to be spent to shore up banks, unemployment, housing, food stamps, etc...when you just read about the big bank bail out they fail to mention all the over sections that had to be helped by our government so that we did not go into a recession...I didn't just get that from democrats but I listened to economic shows and other sites like factcheck.org and political sites plus CNN..

I have concerns over China owning so many IOU's by our goverment .

That's been going on for years and probably will continue to go on. I was listening to NBC nightly news and Wolf Blitzer about this very same thing. China needs us as much as we need them. One of the reason we're so lop-sided with China is bc they have devalued their dollar thus making it cheap for us to do business in China but expensive to export. To get the gist of what I'm saying try googling China and the USA's economic disparity. This is one of the things that Obama is focusing on once we're more stabilized financially.

I have concerns over keeping more jobs here at home and not shipping them overseas.

Good luck with that. Greed is the number one reason why the jobs left in the first place

I have concerns over stopping 2 wars and bringing home our troops.

If all goes as planned Iraq in 2011 I believe or is it Afghanistan. I'm not sure so will have to look at CNN again.

I have concerns about illegals from Mexico and the drug wars going on at the boarder and spreading into places in Arizona and Texas, where people are being butchered.

Americans are causing the drug wars with their need for drugs. If there was a campaign or ads on TV explaining this to the American people it might help. They need to put up that highly proclaimed fence that Bush was talking about but then again you're going to have corrupt people manning the fence so who knows what to do about that.


These are major items that need attention now not later from our President and his Admin as they are the ruling party in the Congress and Senate.

I just want to see the Change that was promised, to much time was spent on a health bill that clearly most Americans dont want. We do need health care reform and that i agree on, but if the economy doesnt shift and jobs brought back and countries that are plotting to nuke their neighbor isnt stopped we will all cease to exist from this earth and wont have the need for health care at all imo.

Laurie in all honesty how much change can be expected in one year? Obama took office at the worse time possible and he has focused on most of the things that you have mentioned but all everyone has talked about is the healthcare bill.
If you go to the whitehouse.org you will see what's been done and what's being concentrated on. It's a lot more than you think...sorry this was a bit long but I wanted to address some of your issues and let you know that I don't blindly follow someone as I also expect them to live up to their promises.


Laurie



Ok, I'm done for now...heheheh
 
There have been a few low blows swung here by folks who seem to be using personal criticism as an extension of their differing political opinions and implied moral superiority, and I hope this trend is not going to continue, because it pretty much destroys any hope of a useful conversation.

Politics is always going to be an emotive subject, especially among Americans where the divide between Republicans and Democrats just seems to get wider and meaner due to the efforts of followers on both sides who clearly have passionate views on the superiority of their beliefs and even morals.

The temptation to lash out is considerable, but really not productive imo.

And this is why, people, I "don't do politics!" Aren't you all glad? :p
 
Laurie,

I have no problem at all with what you just stated. I have a very strong democratic background but I have voted republican when I thought that was the best candidate for the job. I don't let my party affliation get in the way of my country. I respect you for it and we will certainly not agree on some of the points that you make but they are your beliefs and I respect that.

What I don't like is the constant lies being told about the healthcare bill and Obama. I don't like Bush but when he was in the white house I respected him and what I'm seeing from GOP members is total disrespect and not even listening to what Obama or anybody else is saying.

The only way for this country to get back out of this recession is for everyone to work together. If country is first then your party should be second.
i really don,t like eather party i like you vote for who i think will do the best job. i,am not rep or dem never have been but i guess i get under alot of peoples skin. yes ur right i don,t like obama and i did,nt like bush when he was in. i think he started that war caz he could,nt catch the guys who hit us on r own land and he did,nt want to look bad. reamber this is just the way i see things so anybody who liked bush don,t start jumping on me caz i said i did,nt like him. i think the last good prez we had in was j.f.k but again thats just me. right now what it seems to me is there is a power game going on with both the rep and dem and obama and when the rep get back in as they will then they r going to do the samething the dems r doing and not listen but whats really bad is nobody is listening to the american people. i have never seen this much anger on here and everywhere eles as i have latly.i agree that we all have to work together to get back on track but as for that happening is anybody guess. and about me getting mad if people don,t see it my way i don,t it seems that more people get mad at me caz i don,t see things their way and i don,t like who they think i should like. we r who we r and will never see things the same but thats a good thing as i see it.
 
Crabass is two words.

After doing some online research, I stumbled across the Urban Dictionary.

It may interest you that there are two seperate entries posted in this online authority, one spelled "crab ass" and one spelled "Crabass". I quote:

"crab ass - 1 definition - someone who does nonstop bitching and belly aching.

Crabass - 1 definition - One who is being a complete retard for no apparent reason, also quite similar to [asshat]."

It seems that, while I probably fit within the parameters of both definitions, the second is a little better fit.

I rest my case. :nod:
 

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