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The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
Wow. That's unsettling.
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Wow. That's unsettling.
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just my experiences
I'm not saying that I have not had bad experiences with casinos or not been paid before or screwed around by casinos. All I can say is that in my experiences, it does not appear to me that the particular softwares in question have cheated me. Now, there is currently one rival that is trying to cheat me and withholding payments even though I have met the requirement, but that's not central to the cheating software issue.
Regarding the RTP, I believe that would be adjusted through the paytable and not through influencing third party software. That's just my opinion.
Regarding my positive posts, I try to deal with highly rated casinos and generally feel I have been treated fairly by most casinos and that many posts on this forum are very critical of these casinos that I have had positive experiences with.
I'm going to read up on the tradition vs. rival case now, thanks for the heads up.
I'm not saying that I have not had bad experiences with casinos or not been paid before or screwed around by casinos. All I can say is that in my experiences, it does not appear to me that the particular softwares in question have cheated me. Now, there is currently one rival that is trying to cheat me and withholding payments even though I have met the requirement, but that's not central to the cheating software issue.
Regarding the RTP, I believe that would be adjusted through the paytable and not through influencing third party software. That's just my opinion.
Regarding my positive posts, I try to deal with highly rated casinos and generally feel I have been treated fairly by most casinos and that many posts on this forum are very critical of these casinos that I have had positive experiences with.
I'm going to read up on the tradition vs. rival case now, thanks for the heads up.
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Are Rival licensed by anyone? Who do TiV report in to? I seriously doubt that any software that has the ability to alter RTP is licensed by any decent jurisdiction
*Edit... Curacao...should have known!
*Edit... Curacao...should have known!
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It's worth noting that I thanked his post because it was a balanced view and I totally agree with everything he said.
I have been playing online casinos virtually daily (including Rivals of course) for over 9 years and I have never seen any evidence of operators "changing RTPs on the fly" as proposed by some people here.
I'm sorry if some people have different opinions - nothing I can do about that.
KK
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I have recently been conducting a survey of remote gambling license jurisdictions, asking some very specific questions.
More on this soon but I did not contact Curacao because they are the only jurisdiction in my survey list that was not contactable by email! (Welcome to 21st century technology Curacao)
Much worse though is not only the amateurish presentation of their site (many others are nearly as bad) but the following statement they make;
Currently, CIGA does not have the capacity to handle player complaints against members, however all such complaints will be passed on to the appropriate member; who will be expected to respond in a timely manner. Please contact the member company BEFORE bringing any complaint to the attention of CIGA, to allow them the opportunity to resolve the matter privately initially.
That is truly
So what is the F'ing point of them again?
Sorry for minor derail of this fascinating thread.
I have been emailed and PMed for comment by two (concerned) members.
Seems like my comments on all the relevant subjects of this thread started in early 2008 and basically never ceased......Do not like seeing anyone beat out of a dime, but $80K is a drop in the bucket if you get my drift.
I once posted that it seemed unusual for John Wright (who I have forgiven personally but that is it) to be both the casino and affiliate manager of TIV. I suspected he actually owned and/or still owns (per se) TIV along with eventually other casinos. This may indirectly have created some of the backlash with his former colleagues.
The above is speculative but should not be hard for Bryan to elaborate on based on his Rival owner contact. The ownership of Rival as Jet and I among others have pursued is a complicated clusterfuck with the intent to deceive so who knows if Bryan is being misled!
Perhaps, just coincidence that I had continually found flaws in the Rival (i.e. BJ) software (long before JHV
) which as recently as the first of this year I was asked about via PM and my reply is spot on again
.However, I can/could not win that argument here ever as has been proven time and time again. The first 10 pages or so of The English Harbour thread or even the initial pages of The Absolute Poker thread (see Lotso's foolishness) assisted by the 2+2 forum shows most of us including moi, are not skilled enough to persist and overcome the many obvious agenda-driven fanatical obstacles. Obviously, I am no, TheLawnet or PokerAddict et al who somehow despite the know nothing agenda driven fanatics did what I can not.......Cryptic, conspirator accusations suit agendas!
SIDENOTE: The King continues to violate "forum rules" despite prior posts (granted he could have just missed those posts, lol but he seems to know the forum rules as demonstrated in many of his posts and he finally did remove Orange Gamez).
His selective memory and defense of TIV's and Rival's payment history and track record obviously ignores "Rival's designed fraudulent schemes" aka intent including those payment delays (that the King acknowledges as all the while he maintains he does not know of one player that is/was ever owed that has not been paid per the forums as Rivals et al ignore their own payment terms with no intent et al. Perhaps, the "no intent" to delay payment is fair game to the King) in order to hopefully avoid payment to players. Caveat Emptor!!
Paraphrasing, anyone The King is aware of not being paid has to be a proven fraudster, cheat ,etc.. Really????
Seems like my comments on all the relevant subjects of this thread started in early 2008 and basically never ceased......Do not like seeing anyone beat out of a dime, but $80K is a drop in the bucket if you get my drift.
I once posted that it seemed unusual for John Wright (who I have forgiven personally but that is it) to be both the casino and affiliate manager of TIV. I suspected he actually owned and/or still owns (per se) TIV along with eventually other casinos. This may indirectly have created some of the backlash with his former colleagues.
The above is speculative but should not be hard for Bryan to elaborate on based on his Rival owner contact. The ownership of Rival as Jet and I among others have pursued is a complicated clusterfuck with the intent to deceive so who knows if Bryan is being misled!
Perhaps, just coincidence that I had continually found flaws in the Rival (i.e. BJ) software (long before JHV
) which as recently as the first of this year I was asked about via PM and my reply is spot on again.However, I can/could not win that argument here ever as has been proven time and time again. The first 10 pages or so of The English Harbour thread or even the initial pages of The Absolute Poker thread (see Lotso's foolishness) assisted by the 2+2 forum shows most of us including moi, are not skilled enough to persist and overcome the many obvious agenda-driven fanatical obstacles. Obviously, I am no, TheLawnet or PokerAddict et al who somehow despite the know nothing agenda driven fanatics did what I can not.......Cryptic, conspirator accusations suit agendas!SIDENOTE: The King continues to violate "forum rules" despite prior posts (granted he could have just missed those posts, lol but he seems to know the forum rules as demonstrated in many of his posts and he finally did remove Orange Gamez).
His selective memory and defense of TIV's and Rival's payment history and track record obviously ignores "Rival's designed fraudulent schemes" aka intent including those payment delays (that the King acknowledges as all the while he maintains he does not know of one player that is/was ever owed that has not been paid per the forums as Rivals et al ignore their own payment terms with no intent et al. Perhaps, the "no intent" to delay payment is fair game to the King) in order to hopefully avoid payment to players. Caveat Emptor!!
Paraphrasing, anyone The King is aware of not being paid has to be a proven fraudster, cheat ,etc.. Really????
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Hi all,
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
Wow, just wow! I don't think I'm reading more into that comment than I am, am I?
Seems like my comments on all the relevant subjects of this thread started in early 2008 and basically never ceased......Do not like seeing anyone beat out of a dime, but $80K is a drop in the bucket if you get my drift.
I get it Nash.
I once posted that it seemed unusual for John Wright (who I have forgiven personally but that is it) to be both the casino and affiliate manager of TIV. I suspected he actually owned and/or still owns (per se) TIV along with eventually other casinos. This may indirectly have created some of the backlash with his former colleagues.
The above is speculative but should not be hard for Bryan to elaborate on based on his Rival owner contact. The ownership of Rival as Jet and I among others have pursued is a complicated clusterfuck with the intent to deceive so who knows if Bryan is being misled!
It's gonna be interesting to hear the rest of this story, that is if we do. I hope we get to hear it ALL.
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Ignoring, for the moment, the communication from 'ex-employee'...
let's just look at some of the things we know about Rival software...
We have players posting left and right about slow/no pay, players being denied legitimate wins for flaky reasons, casinos that are folding and being handed over to... who? Rival? Also, we see a software that allows (allowed? Rival said they fixed it) the casino operator to change BJ payouts without changing the felt or the game rules, and that allows the operators to change game max bet while players are playing (experienced this more than once, myself).
Now... in my way of thinking... any software that allows the operator to fiddle with the games is shoddy, unsecure, and untrustworthy. As I think I asked in another thread... what ELSE is the operator able to fiddle with? .... we don't know for sure.
All I know for sure is... my money is staying in my pocket....
let's just look at some of the things we know about Rival software...
We have players posting left and right about slow/no pay, players being denied legitimate wins for flaky reasons, casinos that are folding and being handed over to... who? Rival? Also, we see a software that allows (allowed? Rival said they fixed it) the casino operator to change BJ payouts without changing the felt or the game rules, and that allows the operators to change game max bet while players are playing (experienced this more than once, myself).
Now... in my way of thinking... any software that allows the operator to fiddle with the games is shoddy, unsecure, and untrustworthy. As I think I asked in another thread... what ELSE is the operator able to fiddle with? .... we don't know for sure.
All I know for sure is... my money is staying in my pocket....
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Hi all,
I'm just getting started on this one...
I really hate to say this, but I seriously doubt the OP will see $8 dollars worth of his $80k winnings. The writing has been on the wall for a number of months now that there are software and payment issues with Rival. They just don't seem to have the capability of paying anyone - affiliates included.
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
Casinomeister, from the sounds of your posting, it seems as though I should not be investing further valuable time in chasing this. Is that pretty much the jist of things from your point of view ? If so and you strongly believe that I would end up with less that 0.001% of what TIV owe me then i'm truly done and won't chase this further.....Congrats Rival, another casino of yours has managed to weasel out of paying a legitimate large win...I guess the longer you ignore requests, emails, bad pr, it will eventually go away..great business ethics and management......to the owners of Rival, *snip*, well you guys should know better...i would think that you're too busy addressing complaint emails flooding into your email box.
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There are facts, and there are opinions.
Fact: game rules and payouts for blackjack can be changed on the fly, on Rival software
Fact: Rival RTPs are adjustable
Fact: Reputable (according to Casinomeister) ex-employees at Rival casinos say operators manipulate game settings for high rollers at the back end.
Opinion: Knowing these facts, you would have to be a sh***, to say that you believe Rival RTPs are not adjustable "on the fly".
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I never said Rival RTPs can't be changed - though I seriously doubt they can be done "on the fly" i.e. while a customer is actually playing.
I also think it's very unlikely that the RTPs on their slots can be changed at all.
(With one possible exception, before Maphesto leaps in!
)We know this can be done on other softwares though; RTG and Wagerworks for sure have different selectable RTPs on their slots, and RTG can change the RTP of their Blackjack by adjusting the number of decks, and on Video Poker through their pay-tables.
If you have solid, indisputable evidence that Rival can change the RTP on games during play I think you should bring it out into the open as I'm sure many people, including myself, would find it very interesting reading!
Thanks.
KK
LOL.............I want to see your solid indisputable evidence for starters on your numerous posts claiming, lol , that you have been winning for years, even month after month using basically boni, money management and discipline. BTW, your claims of money management and discipline skills are gambling fallacies. That I can prove with solid indisputable evidence (in another thread whenever you are ready).I never said Rival RTPs can't be changed - though I seriously doubt they can be done "on the fly" i.e. while a customer is actually playing.
I also think it's very unlikely that the RTPs on their slots can be changed at all.
(With one possible exception, before Maphesto leaps in!
We know this can be done on other softwares though; RTG and Wagerworks for sure have different selectable RTPs on their slots, and RTG can change the RTP of their Blackjack by adjusting the number of decks, and on Video Poker through their pay-tables.
If you have solid, indisputable evidence that Rival can change the RTP on games during play I think you should bring it out into the open as I'm sure many people, including myself, would find it very interesting reading!
Thanks.
KK
Back OT, your on-going schtick on Rival is a shameful injustice. At a minimum you are aiding and abetting what has been a designed fraudulent online gambling operation for years that victimized the OP, myself, possible other high-rollers, among others it appears.
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This was proved in the Tradition vs. SamD thread. You just chose to ignore the evidence.
Blackjack RTP could not even be determined for months due to the split button malfunction. Deliberate, hell yes as all Rival BJ hand histories should have been audited and some type of fair, lol, compensation offered to the effected Rival players.
Of course as I anticipated, as far as Rival was concerned the theft of funds from BJ players never occurred even after John Wright admits I was correct and the problem prolly existed from Day One afaik.
All explained here!! https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...inos-are-rogue-all-evidence-shown-here.37010/
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I fear this is a Train getting ready to jump the tracks, anyone else see the wreck ahead or am i paranoid?
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Not sure you should give up so easily, not with that sort of money at stake.
Also fairly certain Casinomeister wont give up as easily if your case is proven and at the very least pursuing this will help others avoid such casinos, all publicity helps.
But like i say, thats if your case is proven.
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Hey Nash, I missed that thread for some reason.
I read your post and a few others and as I see it is possible that this was a programming error (incorrect hit box specification) though it is equally possible it was done deliberately (It is a hell of an oversight as setting a button hitbox is a very simple task)
You are dead right though, Rival should absolutely have compensated all losing hands where this error occurred or may have occurred - the fact they did not and went into denial mode is very much the modus operandi for Rival though.
I said a long time I ago I wouldn't touch them with a 10' bargepole along with quite a few others here (notably Pinababy) and everything I have seen since has only confirmed my misgivings.
Still all the past has mostly been swept under the carpet (The same one you keep kicking and turning over.
) and I think I will take a step back andsee what comes of these apparently very well founded allegations that the Rival software can and has been tampered with by various Casinos.Hi all,
I'm just getting started on this one...
I really hate to say this, but I seriously doubt the OP will see $8 dollars worth of his $80k winnings. The writing has been on the wall for a number of months now that there are software and payment issues with Rival. They just don't seem to have the capability of paying anyone - affiliates included
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
.........Rival affiliates (many) are currently being paid per this linked post below as well as other posts in the same thread.Link Removed (invalid URL)
That said, Bryan may have meant "400 Affiliates" (who as of present have no current posted affiliate payments that I noticed but I only read page 3 of the linked thread) but I read Bryan's post above as "all Rival affiliates". Regardless, he hopefully will clarify on the possibilities and/or confusion
Bryan, can you say who logged in y-day to the forum using the account name "thisisvegas"? Of course, this was John's before he switched to another account name for sure (RBJ) and possibly another thereafter, all in good standing at the time. I realize "thisisvegas" is currently a dormant account and have no clue of what can be accessed on the forum as a dormant account. Nevertheless, would like to know who accessed the account y-day if possible and kosher!
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Just an observation:
Notice how handily a rep from TIV has come to address this issue?
They are really "johnny on the spot" protecting their useless reputation, huh?
Notice how handily a rep from TIV has come to address this issue?
They are really "johnny on the spot" protecting their useless reputation, huh?
Great post Rusty...........You get itHey Nash, I missed that thread for some reason.
I read your post and a few others and as I see it is possible that this was a programming error (incorrect hit box specification) though it is equally possible it was done deliberately (It is a hell of an oversight as setting a button hitbox is a very simple task)
You are dead right though, Rival should absolutely have compensated all losing hands where this error occurred or may have occurred - the fact they did not and went into denial mode is very much the modus operandi for Rival though.
I said a long time I ago I wouldn't touch them with a 10' bargepole along with quite a few others here (notably Pinababy) and everything I have seen since has only confirmed my misgivings.
Still all the past has mostly been swept under the carpet (The same one you keep kicking and turning over.
...........Thanks for the thumbs up, much appreciated.........I ceased all my Rival play in Jan. 2009 (one exception to get some current BJ info. one year later in Jan.2010 only at a non-WL) for many Rival related reasons but there is a post here somewhere that I summarized all---> I no longer had any reason to TRUST Rival (based on facts et al)........paraphrasing your statement Rusty, not a damn thing has changed.......except for the worse it appears!!
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FYI, Bryan has some family issues that are going to take him out of the loop for a few days. He should be back as normal early next week.
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We've received a bunch of information related to gid88's case. Suffice it to say that there's a lot more to this issue than has been offered by the OP. [strike]I'm digesting the material now and will determine how to handle the PAB, and this thread, accordingly.[/strike]
Scratch that. Based on the nature of the evidence I've seen and the fact that Bryan has already been looking into this I think it best that we wait for him to return in a few days to make the final decisions here.
I will say this though, the OP (gid88), needs to have another look at the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ:
Obviously here I'm primarily concerned about the OP's posts __while__ the PAB is in progress.
Scratch that. Based on the nature of the evidence I've seen and the fact that Bryan has already been looking into this I think it best that we wait for him to return in a few days to make the final decisions here.
I will say this though, the OP (gid88), needs to have another look at the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ:
Obviously here I'm primarily concerned about the OP's posts __while__ the PAB is in progress.
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my apologies for not reading the "fp"..not another word from myself.
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Do you have 'indusputable' evidence of this? I'm interested to read it (thread or column?)
Thanks
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I have play logs for all my play going back to 2004 (that's 100's!), including all my totally disastrous, busting out way before WR ones.
I posted some of the better one in my CM blogs.
Are you seriously suggesting that I sat down and just invented all that data?
I am quite happy to supply you, or post any of these logs on the forum at any time.
You start the thread - ask for any casino from any month - I'll provide the evidence.
(Note: I don't have logs for some WagerWorks & Crypto play because their software did it for me, and I lost the whole of 2007 Ladbrokes' logs when I accidentally deleted the file!
)Please can you show me the exact posts in that thread where it was proved, or even suggested, that the game was changed during play?
I haven't looked, but I'm 99% sure you wont find it.
There are numerous threads going back over many years. I'm sorry but I don't have the time or the inclination to go searching for them.
I do have copies of RTG slots marketing sheets which show the different selectable RTPs.
You could ask Simmo! about WagerWorks - I'm sure he will tell you that different casinos have the same slot but set to different RTPs.
Just a general note to all; I'm not defending Rival for any other reason than I want to see fair play to all - players and casinos. I'm not saying I can prove that the casinos are NOT cheating - I really have no idea. But equally there has been no evidence that they are. I know some think that Tradition changing the paytable on Blackjack was a deliberate attempt to cheat players, but I do not. I think it was just a ludicrous cock-up by a totally incompetent casino.
Back on topic - let's just wait for the outcome of the PAB and see what we get.
In the meantime I will not be getting involved in any further derailment of this thread. If anyone wants to carry on discussions on other issues, please start a new thread, or pick up on an existing one on THAT issue.
Thanks.
KK
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I don't know what you mean by "during play". Of course settings can be changed even if someone is playing. Do you think they have to wait untill no one is playing, and then make the change? Possibly the players playing at the time would be kicked off the game in order for the change to be made, I don't know. That's not important.
Here is the important part: the explanation given was that during the training of a new employee, blackjack payout had been changed accidentally. (I personally believe that's a half truth, and the change was deliberate, but that's my opinion.) This is evidence that changes can be made very easily.
You show a consistent pattern of you defending Rival casinos at every opportunity, in spite of overwhelming evidence of rogue behaviour. You do this quite deceptively, by throwing up smoke screens, ignoring evidence, trying to cast suspicions on wronged players without any basis in fact, thanking posters you know are writing false information when it serves your purposes as a Rival affiliate.
When I read your posts, I'm reminded of the fellow:
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I find it hard to believe that a game, regardless of who it is developed by, be it Playtech, Wagerworks, Microgaming, Rival etc, would ever get passed by a decent licensing authority if there was any way to alter the RTP. They are licensed as an individual game which then get released to clients, each individual licensee doesn't go through the testing process, so how one place can pay more than another I don't know...
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More reason to avoid Rival?
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It's being looked into at the moment. Also, I should reiterate that the ex-employee that I referred to as to "trusting what this person says" was a person who was sorting out the OP's account at Slot'ocash. As for applying this comment to discussions on RTP and everything else - it wasn't intended to be directed towards that.
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Bold and underline for relevance and quote an extract of original post.
Hi all,
I'm just getting started on this one...
I really hate to say this, but I seriously doubt the OP will see $8 dollars worth of his $80k winnings. The writing has been on the wall for a number of months now that there are software and payment issues with Rival. They just don't seem to have the capability of paying anyone - affiliates included.
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
This is a difficult situation and I want to see how things develop but I'm a little confused as to what is being investigated.
The Op quoted the source directly "software manipulation" and stated that this is just a small extract from emails, not only from this source but other ex employees.
Can you clarify what you mean by, "RTP and everything else" and if this is now being excluded from your investigation?
Or alternatively exactly what it is you are looking into at Rival?
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Well I guess I read too much into your prior post, but I think I'm not the only one.
Thanks for the clarification.
The unfortunate thing (for the player) is that the licensing authority in this case is, I think, the Netherlands Antilles out of Curacao, which is not exactly renowned for taking up player cases against its licensees.
Perhaps if enough convincing evidence was assembled that attitude could become more cooperative and responsible, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Hopefully the information obtained by the player (even if from ex-employees) will prove useful in other cases, or in an expose in the interest of warning players about these operations.
Perhaps if enough convincing evidence was assembled that attitude could become more cooperative and responsible, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Hopefully the information obtained by the player (even if from ex-employees) will prove useful in other cases, or in an expose in the interest of warning players about these operations.
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Dead right about Curacao, they don't even have an email address and state specifically they do not have the capacity to deal with complaints against one of their licensees.
You couldn't make it up could you?
Of course that is exactly why the Casino is licensed there.
Hopefully the information obtained by the player (even if from ex-employees) will prove useful in other cases, or in an expose in the interest of warning players about these operations.
If this sort of well backed expose is merely going to result in the odd reference to this thread when the next players is ripped off by Rival (which you are right and is probably what will happen) then I am at a loss as to what this forum is all about.
This needs serious investigation and if credence is given, by those privy to the well founded allegation of software tampering, then, IMO, not only the Casinos in question should be rogued but the software needs to be as well.
They are pretty much the same thing anyway in most cases.
Sure we can't shut the Casinos down but it neds to be made explicitly clear that Rival Casinos are to be avoided.
How long ago was it we had the scandal of the progressive jackpot anyway?
A general warning was quite rightly put out on the Topgame software for far fewer and lesser indiscretions.
That gives the magnitude of this thread some perspective.
It is a huge scandal that needs to be confronted and the truth brought to light.
Testimony from reliable sources (employees and X-employees) of software tampering.
That is before we even get to the Op having his winnings stolen.
PS
I appreciate that this is on going and all that may yet happen - just venting.
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Hey Rusty you talking about this one?
Irish Luck (May 2009)
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/one-million-reels-bc-204-167-54-was-hit-today.31127/
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That's the one (or 3), thanks Tom.
Just a general reply with contributions from the Principal in "Billy Madison",...........Mr. KK, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no comp points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Hi all,
I'm just getting started on this one...
I really hate to say this, but I seriously doubt the OP will see $8 dollars worth of his $80k winnings. The writing has been on the wall for a number of months now that there are software and payment issues with Rival. They just don't seem to have the capability of paying anyone - affiliates included.
The OP PMd me some of what he has, and I can clearly state that I know this "ex-employee" and would trust what this person is saying. Looks like a long day ahead of us
How I read Bryan's post is now a moot point. Per AGD, it now appears all Rival affiliates are being paid including TIV's "400 Affiliates". Link Removed (invalid URL)
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That said, Bryan may have meant "400 Affiliates" (who as of present have no current posted affiliate payments that I noticed but I only read page 3 of the linked thread) but I read Bryan's post above as "all Rival affiliates". Regardless, he hopefully will clarify on the possibilities and/or confusion
Is this another Lock whereby affiliates are being paid while players are being slow paid if paid at all????? In Lock's situation, it certainly is contrary to CM's Mission Statement as I understand it. Is it also with Rival?
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Just a general reply with contributions from the Principal in "Billy Madison",...........Mr. KK,
Mr. Nash, are you talking about this guy? LOL
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Posts regarding Lock affiliates have been moved here: Are Lock affiliates getting paid?.
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Wow Welcome to my world gid88. Basically the exact same thing happened to me with Slots of Fortune excepted my loss was only $20,000 instead of $80,000. They stated everything under the sun that I was a fraud and had mulitiple accounts and blah blah blah. None of this was true and they never paid me. And of course I had those haters out there that were saying the same things about me. I hope all turns out for you but I had those FINAL DECISION emails also and that was the FINAL DECISION. I got nothing. Sorry this happened. I do however still play at a few respectable Rivals and have continuted to get paid.
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Ummm....didnt you PAB on this issue?
What was the result? Max?
I assume it was probably against you given you havent been paid, so Max must have had some pretty convincing evidence.
I continue to be amazed that after almost 10 years online gambling I have never had any issues with ID or confiscated winnings etc - and yet it seems to follow some people everywhere..?? (not referring to you personally btw). Maybe Im just very lucky.
Are you taking about CM? Can you link me to where all the haters are?
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Has this person been paid yet?
unfortunately if a U.S. player win bigs it is hard to imagine how we will get played. Most casinos only allow X payout per week/month. Even then transfering funds to your bank account will take time as you don't want to set off "fireworks" by transfering more than 4999.00 per transfer. I figure if I win big it would be better to fly to the country paying me to collect my winnings, rather then waiting over a year to collect my winnings.
Maybe that is why micrograming discontinued u.s. players from playing progressives and maybe this why I have seen few u.s. playerss the past few years win "huge jackpots". I have often wondered if it is fixes so that we will not win these million plus jackpots as it would be difficult to get us paid.
Your thoughts please.
unfortunately if a U.S. player win bigs it is hard to imagine how we will get played. Most casinos only allow X payout per week/month. Even then transfering funds to your bank account will take time as you don't want to set off "fireworks" by transfering more than 4999.00 per transfer. I figure if I win big it would be better to fly to the country paying me to collect my winnings, rather then waiting over a year to collect my winnings.
Maybe that is why micrograming discontinued u.s. players from playing progressives and maybe this why I have seen few u.s. playerss the past few years win "huge jackpots". I have often wondered if it is fixes so that we will not win these million plus jackpots as it would be difficult to get us paid.
Your thoughts please.
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Indeed there was a PAB. It was closed after a discussion with the OP. I believe he understood my reasons but I don't feel at liberty to discuss those here. If he is so inclined I have no objection.
Considering that this is kinda a "left hanging" final decision, could we at least get a Green or Red Light on TiV? Is it safe to play there or should we stay away from RIVAL or TiV all together? That's kinda the question that would be nice to be answered.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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If you do a search on This Is Vegas, i think you will find plenty of reason to stay away from this particular Rival, regardless of the outcome of this situation,
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Hi Max, any update on my PAB ?
