Redbet is doing well

[Redbet-Andy]

QUOTE=deucebag;508005 A certain percentage of each bet goes into the jackpot. Larger bets pay more into the jackpot per spin, and therefore have a proportioanally greater chance of hitting the jackpot.

You're right in the first instance a certain percentage does go into the jackpot from every spin. I don't think you're correct in the second assumption (at least not for every jackpot game, you are right about some)


If Redbet Andy wants to make a real contribution to the forum, I challenge him to reveal the following information:
Oh I love a challenge me.

1) The percentage of each bet that goes into the jackpots
It varies by each jackpot slot and to be fair to all the other Net Ent operators, and to Net Ent I don't think I can tell you that if they don't. If it was up to me I would cos I've got a big gob, but the bottom of their game sheets say "private and confidential".

2) The probability of hitting each jackpot by bet size
That they don't share with us, and I'm no Stephen Hawking so I couldn't work it out, sorry.

If a casino cares at all about transparency, this type of information should be made available. IMO it's equally important as RTP.
Again, that's got to be up to the games providers and it may reveal too much to other games providers. There's obviously a reason they don't reveal it, or maybe it's just that nobody's ever asked...
Unfortunately, I suspect the odds of hitting jackpots are far longer than the casinos care to reveal. That's why they don't put it in the paytable or help files.

 

[rainmaker]

You are of course free to base your assumption on thin air if it were so, but personally I tend to listen when people who make a living out of designing slot machines explain how they work. What bothers me is that you're posting this information as if it were fact, when it really is unfounded speculation which goes against common knowledge of how progressive slots work.

Sorry that my post made you upset. I have now added "I think", which clearly indicates that it is based on my own opinion. Let me know if you still think I need to further change my post. Thank you!

I see that Andy is disagreeing with your assumptions, so I guess players just need to make up their own mind

 

[ChopleyIOM]

On just about any lottery in the world, the odds of hitting is made public. Why should it be any different for progressive slots? I don't think any players would be against having this information.

I agree this information would be nice to have, but outside of Galewind Software (running at Pinnacle Casino), I can't think of a single online casino software provider in the world that actually provides the odds of hitting their progressives, and how the stake affects the weighting of the win.

IMO it's not fair to give Andy a hard time over this, I suspect this information is basically considered private by NetEnt themselves, and that he is not at liberty to present it here, whether or not he would personally wish to do so. (And indeed Andy's reply does seem to confirm this.)

If we're going to start beating up on any software provider, let's start with the real elephant in the room which is Microgaming, they won't even publish the T-RTP for their slots on an individual basis, so in my book NetEnt have already got a head start on them by a country mile.

 

[deucebag]

I agree this information would be nice to have, but outside of Galewind Software (running at Pinnacle Casino), I can't think of a single online casino software provider in the world that actually provides the odds of hitting their progressives, and how the stake affects the weighting of the win.

IMO it's not fair to give Andy a hard time over this, I suspect this information is basically considered private by NetEnt themselves, and that he is not at liberty to present it here, whether or not he would personally wish to do so. (And indeed Andy's reply does seem to confirm this.)

I'm not giving Andy a hard time, I'm giving the software providers a hard time. This is just another example of how they don't care about transparency and are unwilling to give players any reason to trust their games.

You may be right that only Galewind provide odds of hitting the jackpot, but quite a few will give the percentage of each bet that is seeded to the jackpot (Playtech, RTG to name a couple). And pretty much all of them will explain that higher bet means higher chance of getting the jackpot. NetEnt won't even state that. I applaud NetEnt for publishing RTPs, but they have a long way to go. Don't get me started on the lack of game specific audited payout reports.:icon_twis

 

[rainmaker]

....And pretty much all of them will explain that higher bet means higher chance of getting the jackpot. NetEnt won't even state that.

I can not agree with you on this statement as some of the NetEnt progressive Jackpot games like Hall of Gods and Tiki Wonders do have a "the more you bet, the greater the chance to win a jackpot"-rule which is clearly stated in the paytable.

 

[deucebag]

I can not agree with you on this statement as some of the NetEnt progressive Jackpot games like Hall of Gods and Tiki Wonders have a "the more you bet, the greater the chance to win a jackpot"-rule which is clearly stated in the paytable.

You're right, seems like they've put this on their more recent games. They should update the paytables on their older games with this info as well.

 

[Redbet-Andy]

I'm not giving Andy a hard time, I'm giving the software providers a hard time. This is just another example of how they don't care about transparency and are unwilling to give players any reason to trust their games.

You may be right that only Galewind provide odds of hitting the jackpot, but quite a few will give the percentage of each bet that is seeded to the jackpot (Playtech, RTG to name a couple). And pretty much all of them will explain that higher bet means higher chance of getting the jackpot. NetEnt won't even state that. I applaud NetEnt for publishing RTPs, but they have a long way to go. Don't get me started on the lack of game specific audited payout reports.:icon_twis

For what it's worth I'll tell you what I will do. The next time someone wins a jackpot at one of our sites I'll tell you what their bet size was in achieving it and how much they spent in that session.
Now, back to my video poker session and my bottle of Tullamore Dew. Wish me luck!

 

[rainmaker]

You're right, seems like they've put this on their more recent games. They should update the paytables on their older games with this info as well.

This is something I can agree with. If this rule also applies to other progressive jackpot games that currently do not have this rule on their paytable, then it should be added. I do not know whether this is the case or not.

Andy: I think that many of the Mega Fortune jackpots have been hit with very low bets, like around €0.50-€2, so I am guessing it will be a low roller who wins your next jackpot. At least if they are playing one of the progressive that does not have a "the more you bet"-rule hehe

 

[incrediblestuff]

Just chiming in

To say Andy is indeed a very helpfull and generous person, of course most top reps and managers are (yes that was a disguised compliment)

All great casinos worth dropping your money "have 'em" like this though, but of course mostly you need to get in contact with them first.
It's a two way relationship i.m.o.
Anyway, let the man at his whiskey it's weekend!

For what it's worth I'll tell you what I will do. The next time someone wins a jackpot at one of our sites I'll tell you what their bet size was in achieving it and how much they spent in that session.
Now, back to my video poker session and my bottle of Tullamore Dew. Wish me luck!

Good luck, i'd be trading places instantly, if i had anything to say about it

 

[rainmaker]

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Hey Andy...why not set up a special Casinomeister promotion now that you are drunk...a €100 no deposit bonus for all CM members or something should do it

 

[Redbet-Andy]

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Hey Andy...why not set up a special Casinomeister promotion now that you are drunk...a €100 no deposit bonus for all CM members or something should do it

Who says I'm drunk, I've had a few I must admit (I must have, I've even been playing on Mr Cashback!).
Anyway, you don't need it you're Norwegian and we all know all Norwegians are richer than J R Ewing.

 

[homerbert]

Who says I'm drunk, I've had a few I must admit (I must have, I've even been playing on Mr Cashback!).
Anyway, you don't need it you're Norwegian and we all know all Norwegians are richer than J R Ewing.

i am not Norwegian ;D give me nodep )

 

[threescatters]

I'll settle for a 500% deposit bonus andy on 200EUR so i can low roll all week without busting

 

[Redbet-Andy]

I'll settle for a 500% deposit bonus andy on 200EUR so i can low roll all week without busting

If you find one of those let me know and I'll have a bit of that too!

 

[homerbert]

thank you Andy I will try golden shamrock
Next deposit will be on redbet 100%

 

[threescatters]

epic session for me now on redbet, trying this PIGGY RICHES slot rainmaker goes on about so much, I cant ever hit on it tho!

 

[Redbet-Andy]

epic session for me now on redbet, trying this PIGGY RICHES slot rainmaker goes on about so much, I cant ever hit on it tho!

My favourite slot as well as Rainmakers' but it can be a right bugger at times. Turn the sound down cos you'll get royally sick of "Oink" "Oink" "Nothing" after a while if it's not paying, Good luck!

 

[Redbet-Andy]

Nice win

Someone just won €11775.00 a minute ago on a single spin on Fruit Shop.
I hope it was one of you lot! If it was I'd like an Everton season ticket please.

 

[threescatters]

Someone just won €11775.00 a minute ago on a single spin on Fruit Shop.
I hope it was one of you lot! If it was I'd like an Everton season ticket please.

Sadly not me, trying hard tho lol - that sounds like an epic hit

 

[rainmaker]

epic session for me now on redbet, trying this PIGGY RICHES slot rainmaker goes on about so much, I cant ever hit on it tho!

hehe...yeah it is my personal favorite, but it can also be quite bitchy so maybe not the best alternative for a new NetEnt player. For example Jack and the Beanstalk has a higher RTP and is a more popular game. But Piggy Riches has its fans

 

[threescatters]

Ahh well andy comped me a very generous NDB which I tried on piggy riches (I never seem to hit on this slot but it really looks like you can get a mega hit from a low bet on it so I am gonna keep trying until I get it!!). Didnt make it there so I made a deposit of my own to try and win MEGA FORTUNE....sadly not, maybe next time. Thanks a lot tho redbet andy, really did appreciate that there.

 

[rainmaker]

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I see that Redbet has some of the game logos mixed up in the widget where you can see "latest winners"

Although the Dark Knight image did redirect me to the "correct" game (Leagues of Fortune). Only the logo that is wrong hehe.

 

[Redbet-Andy]

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I see that Redbet has some of the game logos mixed up in the widget where you can see "latest winners"

Although the Dark Knight image did redirect me to the "correct" game (Leagues of Fortune). Only the logo that is wrong hehe.

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The fella in charge of this stuff is an absolute idiot. I'll have a word with him.
Ahem...

 

[rainmaker]

The fella in charge of this stuff is an absolute idiot. I'll have a word with him.
Ahem...

Hehe...you have great sense of humor

 

[The Viking]

Sorry to hijack this thread but why is Redbet not Accredited? i find there support and fast cashout 2nd to none there aint many casinos around who process the withdrawal quicker then Redbet, ive had few and always got it within 20 hours, sometimes couple of hours,just had a gr8 hit there see screenshots and it makes you feel good when you can trust a casino
im sorry it this has been asked before

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Sorry to hijack this thread but why is Redbet not Accredited? i find there support and fast cashout 2nd to none there aint many casinos around who process the withdrawal quicker then Redbet, ive had few and always got it within 20 hours, sometimes couple of hours,just had a gr8 hit there see screenshots and it makes you feel good when you can trust a casino
im sorry it this has been asked before

It's a mystery to me, maybe they have to apply to be accredited, or something?

Redbet are absolutely my casino of choice now, not only are they running NetEnt slots (high RTPs, good choice of games, RTP transparency), they offer solid bonuses with reasonable WRs, pay very quickly (including over the weekend), and have a friendly, active rep here on the forums.

(And for those who like MG, they have MG slots as well.)

They kick half the accredited list well and truly into the gutter IMO, and are up there with the likes of 32Red and 3Dice when it comes to CS and payment times.

 

[homerbert]

Yeah, redbet is the best casino on netent soft Just i love thing to ask in live chat send money, and they always send asap :O

 

[rainmaker]

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Thanks for bumping Mister Viking, as it reminded me of some free spins I wanted to give a heads up about

They have this The perfect storm 2 promotion where you can get free spins, cash etc. More info on their page.

But everyone that has made a minimum deposit of €25 in their casino within the last 3 months or so will now have 10 free spins on Hall of Gods available in their account. Remember to grab those as you only have a few days until they expire

(I just played mine, but was not very lucky hehe).

 

[The Viking]

Just to add, withdrew £1450 around 6 PM today already paid to my Neteller account so 2 hours doesnt get any better right

 

[Jennifer]

Just reading through this thread tells me a few things.

Id like to have a few beers with Andy, he seems like a real hoot!

The casino sounds awesome including support and cashouts

However I did read one thing in here, someone posted that the wagering on the bonuses is really good. I contacted live support to see and they said it is 35x wagering and 40x wagering. That is not obviously good at all. HOWEVER support told me the bonus money is redeemable. So if thats true, it makes sense as a lot of casino's dont allow you to cash it out.

 

[Markus_Demon]

if you just wanna loose play on that casino.. i made like 10 deposites and 0 win.. slots are way too tight and bad support

 

[homerbert]

pffff, for example i win more than deposit on redbet. I am sure many guys here too.
Also you cant just say ' their support bad' , can you prove it? I think no...

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

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Thanks for bumping Mister Viking, as it reminded me of some free spins I wanted to give a heads up about

They have this The perfect storm 2 promotion where you can get free spins, cash etc. More info on their page.

But everyone that has made a minimum deposit of €25 in their casino within the last 3 months or so will now have 10 free spins on Hall of Gods available in their account. Remember to grab those as you only have a few days until they expire

(I just played mine, but was not very lucky hehe).

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won amazing 0,13€ they were gone in 2 spins on DOA

 

[parpol]

Whitebet (Redbet Gaming) for me is currently the best casino.
Live chat very serious and efficient, never a problem; withdrawals super fast, the money comes out of Neteller in 1-2 minutes!!

I'm VIP Platinum, as well as the benefits (€ 50 every Monday and 50 free spins for new slot) Andy gave me € 100 + 75 free spins (25 * 3) on 3 slot of your choice!

Simply is fantastic! Great job Whitebet!!

 

[Redbet-Andy]

Thanks Jennifer.
I am indeed a hoot, and handsome, like you wouldn't believe!*

Interesting you think 35xb and 40xb is a high WR - what is your general experience of WRs?
Yes the bonus is completely cashable (apart from the completely free cash if you haven't made any deposits - then it's a €100 max, but that's free so I think it's fair).

Andy

*For those that know me in real life please don't please reveal the hideous truth, beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Right it's back to the belltower for me.

Just reading through this thread tells me a few things.

Id like to have a few beers with Andy, he seems like a real hoot!

The casino sounds awesome including support and cashouts

However I did read one thing in here, someone posted that the wagering on the bonuses is really good. I contacted live support to see and they said it is 35x wagering and 40x wagering. That is not obviously good at all. HOWEVER support told me the bonus money is redeemable. So if thats true, it makes sense as a lot of casino's dont allow you to cash it out.

 

[Redbet-Andy]

Thanks for the support.

We're genuinely trying to create the kind of casino that we'd like to play at, and that's not marketing blarney - Myself and the MD in particular are big casino players (slots) and that's why we try to be as responsive as we can to feedback. The Baptism of Fire would be great because you can expose any flaws we have yet to address.

Unfortunately Bryan and I haven't been able to meet up to discuss it properly and get the ball rolling. Hopefully we'll manage it soon.


Cheers!
Andy

Sorry to hijack this thread but why is Redbet not Accredited? i find there support and fast cashout 2nd to none there aint many casinos around who process the withdrawal quicker then Redbet, ive had few and always got it within 20 hours, sometimes couple of hours,just had a gr8 hit there see screenshots and it makes you feel good when you can trust a casino
im sorry it this has been asked before

 

[Balthazar]

Thanks for the support.

We're genuinely trying to create the kind of casino that we'd like to play at, and that's not marketing blarney - Myself and the MD in particular are big casino players (slots) and that's why we try to be as responsive as we can to feedback. The Baptism of Fire would be great because you can expose any flaws we have yet to address.

Unfortunately Bryan and I haven't been able to meet up to discuss it properly and get the ball rolling. Hopefully we'll manage it soon.


Cheers!
Andy

Registered at Redbet after watching Chopley's video not long ago. Looks fun and all, but what bothers me is the fact that it's in Euros only. Exchanging $CAD for Euros back and forth every time that I want to deposit and withdraw represents a major loss of money in the long run, this is not good when you're already playing against the house odds.

Other than that, I think you're a good and active rep and I wish you good luck for an upcoming accreditation.

 

[KasinoKing]

However I did read one thing in here, someone posted that the wagering on the bonuses is really good. I contacted live support to see and they said it is 35x wagering and 40x wagering. That is not obviously good at all. HOWEVER support told me the bonus money is redeemable. So if thats true, it makes sense as a lot of casino's dont allow you to cash it out.

Remember that wagering is the Bonus ONLY - not Deposit + Bonus like most other casinos. And indeed it is cashable.
That makes their wagering nearly as low as Microgaming - and MILES lower than RTG or Playtech (generally speaking).
That puts their welcome bonus in the top 60 of the casinos I list = not too bad.

KK

 

[Dipity]

You could become one of the first to get a Spanish license (yes, I know it's a recurring theme in my posts)!

On a more serious note, before you pulled out of Spain, Redbet were great, very nice support, responsive, and definitely one of the most active casino reps here on the forum, which stands you guys in good stead in terms of getting accredited imo!

 

[Jennifer]

Thanks Jennifer.
I am indeed a hoot, and handsome, like you wouldn't believe!*

Interesting you think 35xb and 40xb is a high WR - what is your general experience of WRs?
Yes the bonus is completely cashable (apart from the completely free cash if you haven't made any deposits - then it's a €100 max, but that's free so I think it's fair).

Andy

*For those that know me in real life please don't please reveal the hideous truth, beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Right it's back to the belltower for me.

Ahhh I just saw KK post that the deposit doesnt need to be wagered. Support left that out so I had no idea. So yeah, that makes it pretty darn good!

And where is this free cash you speak of?

P.S. do they serve up any wine in the belltower? lol

 

[incrediblestuff]

Well let's not get ahead of ourselves
I do agree that Andy is one if the niocest reps we have on board, engaged and definitely generous.
But i did encounter several issues with automated loyalty, and was misinformed to put it gently once by a chat rep.
So there is still some room for improvement.
But thats just me being critical, i do like to see the likes of Redbet in the accredited section, and definitely agree that they are
ahead of some of the accredited casinos, based on players here, and my own experience.
One of the things i like is the 4 games at once feature.
I have confidence that Andy will lead the casino in the Acc. section soon!
Good luck

 

[Seventh777]

Well, I made my 1st deposit at Redbet yesterday, made the w/r and sent in documents that in most cases are more than enough, I do not drive nor have I ever renewed my passport.

My documents - My old passport, a screenshot of my Neteller account showing the deposit to Redbet, a most recent pdf from my isp showing my address etc, a photo copy of both sides of a debit card, when I sent these I explained I do not have photo id, I have received an email stating they need photo id..why?.

 

[Seventh777]

And so it goes on /sigh.

Casinos I have withdrawn from using if required the same documents I sent Redbet...

Virgin, Ladbroke`s. Sky Vegas, 32Red, Golden Lounge, Dash, Nedplay, NordicBet, Maxino, GoWild, 3Dice, Zodiac, Desert Dollar, 10Bet, Go Scratchcard, MrGreen, Vegas Regal, Kerching, Super Casino, Royal Vegas, Fortune Lounge, Unibet.

Probably loads more that I cba to think of, suffice to say there`s been loads, if I knew this beforehand I would not have bothered to deposit.

Telephone conversation from my very 1st withdrawal from 32Red....."Do I need to send in any documents?", "No Roy we have already verified you", any wonders they are second to none?.

To say i`m pissed off atm is an understatement.

I`ll just go down the local pub that houses all the lowlife`s and scum and buy a black market passport because this will prove?????????????.

 

[Tirilej]

Since you is you obviously, and nobody else don't ever will try to take over you identity you could probably just send a pm to Andy. I'm sure he can confirm who you are.
Poor Roy

 

[Seventh777]

Since you is you obviously, since nobody else don't ever will try to take over you identity you could probably just send a pm to Andy. I'm sure he can confirm who you are.
Poor Roy

That`s not the case hun, there are probably many people like me that do not have photo ID, and what does photo ID actually prove?, I could be a 13 year old kid using mummy or daddies ID and sending in pictures of their photo ID`s, photo ID`s prove nothing and never will unless you are sitting opposite them in a room as to compare them to the photo.

What does prove both address and age however is an downloaded upto date pdf of your recent telephone bill, and ring them up using the number clearly stated on this bill, you cannot have a phone line in the UK unless you are 18+, you also cannot change the details on these pdf downloads, and ofc a photo copy of each side of a credit card with my name on it.

That pdf download is more than enough to prove identity, age, address, how much more do they need?, nothing, all the casinos I previously stated didn`t.

 

[Seventh777]

Update - My withdrawal has now been processed tyvm Redbet for that .

A brief outline on just how important a pdf downloaded file is from your ISP etc.

1). When you 1st contact them regarding their services they will credit and electoral roll check you, now they know everyone who lives at that address, if you are not on the electoral roll for your current address they will check your previous address.

2). After instalment they will now have on record your bank details for the direct debit, age and address verification that has been authenticated during the instalment process.

3). The pdf details many things including the phone number in the account holders name (we now know beyond doubt that the account holder is 18+ and their name is correct courtesy of both the electoral roll/credit checks, and their bank details), these files cannot be tampered with.

4). All that is needed is the person whom the pdf is related to make a phone call using the number in the pdf.

5). A pdf file and phone call from the respective number prove a whole heap more than photo ID is capable of.

For future reference Andy, explain to your security staff just how much verification information is at hand, just from one of these upto date downloaded pdf utility bills .

Once again though ty Redbet for an amicable resolving of my withdrawal .

P.S.

Post the direct email address for you, I have an avatar just made for you .

 

[Redbet-Andy]

Really glad you're sorted.
If anyone has an issue you are of course welcome to contact me, I check in twice a day at least.I'll have a look at this requirement and confirm what the minimums are.
Cheers
Andy

 

[Seventh777]

Really glad you're sorted.
If anyone has an issue you are of course welcome to contact me, I check in twice a day at least.I'll have a look at this requirement and confirm what the minimums are.
Cheers
Andy

Thanks Andy, tbh if photo ID is a necessity that I overlooked, then my sincerest apologies, but, on the other hand mucho kudos to Redbet for processing my withdrawal anyway .

Thanks loads Redbet,

Roy (aka Sarah at weekends).