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While I don't necessarily disagree with your premise,Mr Vegas is an awful casino with appalling RTPs and not a good casino to gauge slots on. I would suggest a different casino for starters.
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Yes, Mr Vegas is just Videoslots with different pants on. I agree, I was a fool to play there, as I had moaned enough about VS being shite.While I don't necessarily disagree with your premise,Mr Vegas is an awful casino with appalling RTPs and not a good casino to gauge slots on. I would suggest a different casino for starters.
How about Bet365? Those popular games there sit at max RTPs, and Bet365 doesn't piss people off with how come you got those 50 pounds on your bank account, etc.Yes, Mr Vegas is just Videoslots with different pants on. I agree, I was a fool to play there, as I had moaned enough about VS being shite.
Problem is, for UK players, where do you go? Unibet has gone from being one of the best to absolute scum and now ranks amongst the worst. I have always been suspicious of bookies sites and convinced from the ones I have played at, that they operate on at least a 2% lower rtp than advertised. That is based on returns at the odd few I did play at.
Of the others, most decent ones like Dunder, Thrills and others, left the market. The rest wanted ridiculous SoW which I couldn’t be bothered with so I suppose you’re left with the dregs. Never been tempted to play at a rogue Casino because If I ever did hit the one in a trillion win, I’d like to be paid.
You've simply been unlucky, and you're not alone - there will be lots of people who get turned over by shit-or-bust slot profiles like that, with very little in the middle. The best thing you can do is walk away from games like that and play lower-variance stuff that at least give entertainment. 10,000 spins is absolutely nothing on slots like CCM - but why bother carrying on in the hope that your luck changes when you'll probably experience the same sort of thing again?
People can say whatever they want. You will never convince me that online gambling is anything but legal (I use the term loosely) systematic robbery. A filthy disgusting, immoral and unethical Industry that should be dumped in room 101 quicker than it appeared.
How about Bet365? Those popular games there sit at max RTPs, and Bet365 doesn't piss people off with how come you got those 50 pounds on your bank account, etc.
My suggestion as a UK player is to try Bet365 given its largely maximum RTPs. It should also highlight any noticeable differences against a shoddy place like Mr Vegas.Yes, Mr Vegas is just Videoslots with different pants on. I agree, I was a fool to play there, as I had moaned enough about VS being shite.
Problem is, for UK players, where do you go? Unibet has gone from being one of the best to absolute scum and now ranks amongst the worst. I have always been suspicious of bookies sites and convinced from the ones I have played at, that they operate on at least a 2% lower rtp than advertised. That is based on returns at the odd few I did play at.
Of the others, most decent ones like Dunder, Thrills and others, left the market. The rest wanted ridiculous SoW which I couldn’t be bothered with so I suppose you’re left with the dregs. Never been tempted to play at a rogue Casino because If I ever did hit the one in a trillion win, I’d like to be paid.
The thing is, I have been calling them out for ages. I am not doing it retrospectively. I have been suspicious that players are getting a rough deal for a long time.
All I got is, where your proof? You then produce some that is as emphatic as you can imagine. Irrefutable evidence and it’s still not enough for some folk.
We can all select samples of our gameplay to create the illusion required.Look at this recent example of mine.
Playing Bonanza, on my 6th deposit of £100 so £600 in on £1 spins. None of those deposits have resulted in a single bonus round and at no point did I have a balance of more than £100.
Down to the last 15 spins, and bam I get a 800x base game hit.... shed load of diamonds all across.
I am suddenly £200 in profit.
It only takes 1 spins to turn your fortunes around.
Nearly 10,000 spins, not a win above x100 and my rtp is around 20% below expected.All i can say there is: what seems irrefutable to you, may not be so irrefutable according to others. And assuming you were spot on, some people don't even see the light if you smash them in the head with it... Most of which only happens if they have a very similar experience to yours, or sit next to you while it's happening to you. And even then...no guarantees!
For me it has always been quite simple, if my gut tells me i'm not getting a fair game, or i feel like im being played, i move on. And of course, often then give fellow players a heads up to stay away, lest they want the same experience. But usually there are just as many people with good experiences on said slot/provider/casino, that it evens out..
The few times it doesn't - something's usually up![]()
We can all select samples of our gameplay to create the illusion required.
That’s why I purposely chose to play a game from scratch so the full history is there.
You’re not £200 up (unless you’ve never played it before). You are £200 up on that session and probably well down, lifetime.
Nearly 10,000 spins, not a win above x100 and my rtp is around 20% below expected.
How much worse would it have to be to convince people?
The question begs... Are those bonus buys?Following your post, I found several streamer videos of Christmas Carol Megaways and compiled the stats.
I think you just had a run of bad luck because the results of 44 streamer bonuses on the same game tell a different story.
The results of 44 random Pragmatic Play streamer bonuses are as follows;
X160
X410
X422
X2095
X411
X2099
X1021
X670
X6098
X180
X389
X150
X444
X352
X621
X2190
X1300
X2005
X270
X5923
X261
X241
X143
X9091
X4308
X1001
X582
X263
X184
X315
X3967
X2834
X2821
X291
X5723
X4724
X332
X7289
X1156
X1737
X623
X3845
X6223
X1234
The question begs... Are those bonus buys?
Nate
Nah Sorted. He PM'ed me to confirm that they were all Naturally triggered bonuses live on stream.Think he was just taking the piss and made those figures up to reflect the fact streamers always seem to hit big wins.
Yes, you had done 13,000 spins and thought something was wrong with the game. IIRC you contacted the Casino to vent your dismay. You got lucky in that you hit a win that balanced it out somewhat but there was never a guarantee that would happen.
So, it’s okay for you to question suspect gameplay but it’s not okay for me to do likewise? Talk about double standards!