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PANHANDLING AT 3DICE??

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pacers31

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I just logged onto the 3Dice chat awhile ago, and there is a message that says Begging at 3Dice chat is not allowed and grounds for being banned. What's that all about, anyone know?? Begging from gamblers is a gamble in itself. Most gamblers don't like to be bothered by the WILL WORK FOR FOOD crew while they are trying to play.
 
3- dice is almost ready to lose my bizz anyway!!

pacers31 said:
Or is 3Dice saying don't hit us up for freebies on chat???
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hippo925 said:
dropped in on the chat to ask about it. apparently not an april fool's thing. guess it was something that became an issue and resulted in the new rule.
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..........i have never begged for anything at a casino, i have asked for bonuses, but this is after making alot of deposits in one day and also losing many Ks there, yes i have won there but the biggest winner so far is enzo at 3- dice:mad:i will admit ellen and karen and anna are what makes 3- dice fun to play at.it is my understanding that if a casino wants to maintain a great customer relationship, they should give you a bonus if you have had a dry period and remained loyal to that casino while still depositing there, i get more free money at b/m casinos than online ones so no enzo if you feel the need to put up such a crude/ rude statement, i wont be back till its gone and and you explain what you define as begging at your casino..............laurie................:p
 
Hi laurie, can I ask what may have happened?? I don't play much at 3Dice anymore either because the slots are just no fun to me. I will play VP there, but not as much as I used to. So they don't want us to ask for comps? Maybe not in chat, but they will still hit you every so often if you PM or email them. I really like the service, just not thrilled with the game results usually.

So, what have we learned here laurie. No begging for comps from 3Dice!! I wouldn't dream of hitting you up enzo or ellen and co., but can I have a little something PLLLEEEEAAAAASSSEE, OH PLEASE!!

That is sarcasm, know the difference everyone!
 
pacers31 said:
I just logged onto the 3Dice chat awhile ago, and there is a message that says Begging at 3Dice chat is not allowed and grounds for being banned. What's that all about, anyone know?? Begging from gamblers is a gamble in itself. Most gamblers don't like to be bothered by the WILL WORK FOR FOOD crew while they are trying to play.
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Some people are asking other gamblers NOT STAFF thru pm for money or tc. It got to be a big problem.
The way I was told this has nothing to do with asking staff for bonus.
I like the rule because I think it sad that a person in chat when the red someone won comes up that cant say thats me without someone hitting them up for money or tc.
Alot of people at 3dice give without being asked and thats the way it should be
 
please no one get me wrong but imo you call it as you see it sometimes and if you step on a few toes you say sorry and move on about your bizz!!! i have been guilty of asking and i repeat not begging for a bonus but this was after i had lost alot of money that day, so a 50.00 or 25.00 bonus will not make or break enzos casino piggy bank:eek: i think everyone that has played at 3- dice has had some degree of wins there, some more than others and they are customer friendly based and i think imo thats a good thing for any online casino to have as the u.s player really doesnt have that many places to choose from anymore.i dont have a beef with enzo but when you put something like that up on a live chat, it needs to be better explained as you may offend some really loyal players, just my thoughts on it but it sure ticks me the hell off!!!
 
pacers31;228526 So said:
Has nothing to do with staff
its about player asking other player for money or tc.
I think it has nothing to do with a friend asking a friend for money.
Lot of winners are being asked for money for other players and thats not right.
as you know a lot of players give from their heart without being asked.
Thats the way it should be
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QUOTE=keesee;228530]Some people are asking other gamblers NOT STAFF thru pm for money or tc. It got to be a big problem.
The way I was told this has nothing to do with asking staff for bonus.
I like the rule because I think it sad that a person in chat when the red someone won comes up that cant say thats me without someone hitting them up for money or tc.
Alot of people at 3dice give without being asked and thats the way it should be[/QUOTE] glad you found out keesee:)i thought enzo had lost his mind:what:i was on chat and was gonna ask ellen but that chat goes tooo fast for me ...............o.k feel somewhat better now, not offended:)
 
I think it would be distasteful to hit up others for cash (unless I know them real well, friend or something), and requests to the casino should be private. I really have no problem with players helping each other out if they want to. If you don't want to spot someone some cash say no, pretty simple. 3Dice even provides a platform to gift each other, so I can't see that the idea bugs them. It probably does make some of the customers uncomfortable, and from that aspect I understand why they don't allow it. Some people may feel that they are better friends with others that may not see it that way, then the chat arguments begin!
 
i'm pretty sure it was done for the benefit of the players so that there would be no uncomfortable situations. i honestly don't think it was in any way meant to offend anyone but to rather to retain a friendly, comfortable chat. IMO. i really thought it was an april fool's thing or something though because of the wording.
 
pacers31 said:
I think it would be distasteful to hit up others for cash (unless I know them real well, friend or something), and requests to the casino should be private. I really have no problem with players helping each other out if they want to. If you don't want to spot someone some cash say no, pretty simple. 3Dice even provides a platform to gift each other, so I can't see that the idea bugs them. It probably does make some of the customers uncomfortable, and from that aspect I understand why they don't allow it. Some people may feel that they are better friends with others that may not see it that way, then the chat arguments begin!
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agreed:) im glad its april fools day as i sure feel like one now.
 
pacers31 said:
Some people may feel that they are better friends with others that may not see it that way, then the chat arguments begin!
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I must say... very well spoken in "some people may feel that they are better friends with others that May NOT see it that way" very well said!! :thumbsup:

however I don't see any "chat arguments".... (just my opinion)

I also agree... alot of people, probably myself included. Have made friends over the years here at CM and there at 3dice and feel a real bond and trust. :)
I used to toss around TC's whenever anyone needed them. I really don't and didn't mind!, but I never felt imposed on! I guess to so many Cash is different. and that is fine..

I guess I honestly don't understand the purpose of this thread
.. is it to ask 3dice if we should not ask for bonuses? (I won't! I have in the past.. but learned!)

...to label someone a "beggar" as opposed to "someone who asked"

or

..is it to to find out "who" asked "who" for whatever??
Just curious.
Regardless of this whole Hoop La I myself will always see y'all as my friends (good, bad, whatever) and if I ever do hit good... You can be assured I will remember my friends, and then some. :notworthy
 
keesee said:
Has nothing to do with staff
its about player asking other player for money or tc.
I think it has nothing to do with a friend asking a friend for money.
Lot of winners are being asked for money for other players and thats not right.as you know a lot of players give from their heart without being asked.
Thats the way it should be
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Hell that goes on thru PM's on this forum usually by the conniving under false pretenses and manipulative lying. Ironically the most notorious individual I am aware of has made an appearance in this thread...The PM's are still available as some were fowarded to me by possible victims!! or maybe this post was just an April Fool,not...you are never lending money to a gambler, you are giving money imo and from experience, otherthan hating to see the truly innocent and good-hearted fall victim to the conniving addicted, none of my biz!!
 
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NASHVEGAS said:
Ironically the most notorious individual I am aware of has made an appearance in this thread...

Ah, this must have been you then Nash. To fund your high-rolling, I guess:D:D.

I recall Babs having thanked Hippo 925 for a small gift at 3Dice. This is very warm. However, if others should grasp these as opportunities to fund their gambling then it's very sad. I hope that Enzo can shed more light on this.
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Wow, Nash, call me dumb. I didn't know that goes on here and maybe it's just because I never even thought about asking people for money. Let's face it, no matter how "close" you think you are to someone here or on another forum, unless you know someone face to face, we are still strangers in all actuality. And would you ask a complete stranger for money. Well, I guess some people would, sorry. Blows my mind. :eek:
 
Yeah, it doesn't really bother me, but I can see from 3Dice standpoint where it could cause disruption on the the chat. Personally, I don't hang out on chat. I'll pop in once in awhile if I have a question or something. So, if anyone wants to throw me a few bones, I'll look for it in my balance!HAHA Hey buddy, can you spare a Tournament Credit?!?
 
Call me weird, I won't ask my own parents for money and won't take it when they offer. I guess some people have no standards or morals.

I guess I was brought up with the mindset of if you can't afford it you don't need it.
 
Hiya Guys:

If I may, I would like to shed some light on this subject. First, it has nothing to do with asking for chips (player to staff). It has nothing to do with gifting from our site (hippo gifting me)

This was the problem which has NOTHING to do with any players here :)

This is all hypothetical:

Say someone wins $3K and everyone is soooo happy for the winner. These winners are also very nice people. They throw some tourneys to share the wealth as Ive done when I won. Well, there are actual idiots that PM these winners asking for money which makes the winner uncomfortable and its not fair that a winner has to worry about non depositing moochers , again not from here.

scenario Two: Lets say someone has won many TC tourneys for the $50 buy ins. She/He decides to give a couple to her friend because they have so many and some ppl lose all the time and the winner feels bad so she says "hey, I got a couple you can have" Well, before you know it, this person is asking for tokens everyday, I mean everyday! Then they see that person gettting one and says "can i have one too?" It gets out of hand

Again, and this is so important: It has nothing to do with anyone in the CM site and nothing to do with asking for a chip. It is all chat players begging for TC's or money and on top of it, chances are these beggars never even deposit, ever!

I hope this clears things up with everybody :)
 
I didn't mean for this to be a big deal, just didn't know what was up with the message, now I do. Thanks everybody, and keep those tourney credits coming!
 
pacers31 said:
Who's notorious Nash?? If it's me I will feel like an April Fool!!
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Last post as this is more about 3DICE than CM but shamefully it also happens here via PM (and under false pretense) or prolly anywhere gambling is involved (as I recently posted about a 7 day stalker in Tunica I finally had to get Security to remove)...yes for you Pacers it would be considered an April fool as you would know I was not referring to you!!...I am done in this thread!
 
Well, "whew"... glad I am a depositting player. :D

I am a bit shocked at some of you, because people do fall upon hard times especially now, and not because of gambling!!.

I do not agree with "begging" and never will!!
... Guys, we all really don't know what went down so we should not be so quick to judge!!

there are so many scenarios....

I left CM a while back and stayed in the shadows because "friends were bashing friends" etc, etc.... gambling can be a vicious demon. But we are not the ones to judge this situation.

Someone who does not deposit at 3dice asking for money from a "winning player" :what: ... or.... someone who thought they were friends (whatever the context of friendship) but were not.... :confused:

thank you babs for clearing up that this was a non depositting player. :thumbsup:

and yes pacers did you need a tc because I do have an extra one. seriously.
but i need your sn at 3dice... you can pm me if you wish.. or look in your balance.
I for one have been there handing out tc's and have found my "friends" have paid me back.
thank you all.............. and good luck everyone.

(mysticjoz bows out and into the shadows again, as I would rather help my friends when I can and know they will repay me... then live in a world of greed where my son's smile can be bought with a ten spot!
Because the most precious things in this world can not be bought. and no price can be placed upon them. for those things I am eternally grateful.)
 
No Mystic, I was just being sarcastic. I don't care who gives who what at 3Dice, but it has been entertaining discussing this on April 1. Nash... Happy April Fools day. Or as my five year old says..."PAPER FOOLS!!!" Good night all, look forward to our next discussion!
 
The Real Reason...

Hey guys...

It's been a while since I've posted, but I am in 3Dice chat nearly every day at almost any time (you all know me as GGKris there :D )...

One of the reasons the rule was enacted is because the begging got to be quite a bit out of hand with some members of chat. It seemed that every time certain people came in, all they wanted to do was beg some people (and only certain people at that) for TC's (my experience) and if no one gave them any, they would essentially sit in main chat and whine basically until they got some. I know this to be true for a couple of people.

You could debate this issue ad nauseam and some people would still have a hissyfit about it. The plain and simple truth of the matter is that it got WAY out of hand, and finally someone listened to the PLAYERS and not the bottom line and did something about it. I applaud Enzo and the team for having the cojones to step up and say "Look - this is not allowed... Either stop now or go away!"

Cheers,
Kris
 
Hi all!

Im gonna answer this thread since i do know what its all about.
I guess im one of the "to blame" for that message in chat. But there is a good reason for it, if you ask me.

I did share some of my winnings...i set up some tourneys and i gifted a few that i do talk to alot...that are friends.
And that was all good.
But then it got out of control...i had people i never even seen before sending me pm's asking for money and gifts. Both in chat and from 3dice site.
Some of the ones that i did gift, came back and asked for more. And some didnt stop with 1 pm or even 2...they sent like 1-2 a day for days. Begging for money.

It got to the point where i had to tell 3Dice about it, when i started to feel that i needed to hide just because i was having some luck.

I really didnt have a problem with people asking...but the "hunting" is just to much. And the new "friends" that i got all of a sudden, that i never seen before, well...what can i say....

The message in chat is about begging from users, not about asking Enzo for a TC or 2...or a bonus if you had some really bad luck.

I hope this gives you the answer you need :)

I wish you all the best of luck!!

((((HUGS)))) Trollet
 
When I saw the 'no begging' message for the first time, I thought it was directed towards me specifically. Soon after I learned this was not the case.

Enzo was in chat and I told him what I thought when I first read it for the first time (that the message was meant for me). He reassured me that it was not directed towards me...at the same time, other members explained what had been going on in chat and how the begging got way out of hand with certain individuals. There are so many 'nice' and 'giving' people at 3Dice that were being taken advantage of by these 'beggers.' I personally have never been hit up for any cash or tourney credits (cuzz everyone there knows I'm always broke!)

Other members and I expressed to Enzo that the 'no begging' message in red seen immediately upon logging in is a bit harsh and could easily be misunderstood, like in my case. Enzo took what we had to say to heart and said he would go and change it. Thats fair enough for me..:thumbsup:...
 
Honestly, if there's some begging going on when it really shouldn't be, those accounts should be closed and if they open new accounts and start up again they should post who is doing the offending so everyone knows to avoid them like the plague.

When someone begs me for money I just send them a nice message back with the gamblers anonymous website and phone number. Let them know they need that more than $10 more to blow on the slots.
 
Hi Guys,

Allow me to apologize for the confusion that the wording of my message in the 3Dice chat caused. (It's been changed). As previous posters have pointed out, this only referred to the begging that has been going on to some of our valued players, and we came at a point where a warning for that was definitely in place.

People will be people, and unfortunately, its always the nice ones being victimized. We don't tolerate begging in the b&m (average response time to get muscle over would be about 30 secs), and we wont tolerate it in the 3Dice chat either. My message was intended to be strong, I guess I just overdid it a tiny bit ;). mea culpa !

(just my luck it was april 1st :D)

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
 
3Dice said:
Hi Guys,

Allow me to apologize for the confusion that the wording of my message in the 3Dice chat caused. (It's been changed). As previous posters have pointed out, this only referred to the begging that has been going on to some of our valued players, and we came at a point where a warning for that was definitely in place.

People will be people, and unfortunately, its always the nice ones being victimized. We don't tolerate begging in the b&m (average response time to get muscle over would be about 30 secs), and we wont tolerate it in the 3Dice chat either. My message was intended to be strong, I guess I just overdid it a tiny bit ;). mea culpa !

(just my luck it was april 1st :D)

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
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Enzo,
Does the 3Dice chat and PM system have an "ignore" option?

I haven't used it, but this would be a way for members to enforce this rule if it turned out that these individuals ignored this message, and continued with the "begging" by more subtle means.
A simple "report this" button for the PM system and a "report user" for chat would do a similar job.

I am surprised it has taken this long for the 3Dice gifting system to fall victim to this;)

GoneGambling run a similar system for their GG points, which are like 3Dice "tournament credits", and there have had to be NUMEROUS efforts by GG admin to get rid of the "beggars" and "scammers" who seek to manipulate the system. GG have a switch, and they use it, turning gifting off when things get "out of hand". It is now usually "off", and only switched on for special events, such as Easter - less time and trouble to police it.

"Begging" is a way of life for us Fruit Machine players, I can guarantee that when I go on the Motorways playing Fruit Machines I will be targeted by these "beggars", asking for "a pound for a cuppa", which will, if given, go straight into a Fruit Machine:rolleyes:
Sadly, there is no "muscle" to chuck them out, you have to deal with it either by saying "no", or having a bit of fun with them:D
There are SOME Motorway "beggars" who can supply "information" for their "cuppa", and sometimes this MIGHT be worth the pound.

My usual put down is "If your Fruitie system is so good, WHY do you NEED a pound from ME?"

Beware the "Fruitspider", probably the most persistent of the motorway "beggars", his "Fruitie systems" are BOGUS, but I watched in disbelief as he conned some poor innocent by getting the Jackpot for him around 20 AFTER his advice was to "knock back" the FIRST Jackpot in order to get the SAME payout through the feature game. He was given a fiver for LOSING this chap 20 unnecessarily:confused:
 
I wasn't going to say anything as this particular topic gets me riled up. :o

This used to happen a lot in online poker rooms... gives me the shivvers... 'I just need $5 for a tourney' sort of thing. And it would come from people who weren't even in that particular game -- they'd just pop in (as an observer) and start hitting up strangers for chips.

It even happens at B&M casinos. I hit $200 (big deal :rolleyes:) on a quarter slot and this guy comes up and starts whining about not having money for a bus ride home or some such crap. (Then what's he doing at the casino in the first place??)

Mousey's tip of the day: Don't ask for money for gambling (or for 'food' or 'gasoline' if you've gambled your money away), and don't give it to 'em if they do ask. And just a suggestion... any panhandling -- whether via PM or whatever -- should be reported to the board/chat/casino operator.
 
1819 said:
meet ya on collins where the rascal house used to be. i'll put your theory to the test.:)
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If you live in that area.....you are not fare away from hallandale beach blv.
I suggest you try Nando Trattoria italian restaurant....best ever, trust me.:thumbsup:
Thats the place were Ill take my friends if they will really show up one day.(message for RW and company)
 
Just a thought.....if you didn't have "john doe just won $2,000 on tut" in the chat message, no one would know how other people are doing right? I personally don't like that feature, when you can see how well other people are doing (even if it's only in a tourny, not sure if you do it with real money)
 
LOL Just Play

I dont like that either...if i wanna play real i have to leave cause if i see a big win it gives me anxiety thinking im gonna lose
 
3Dice said:
Hi Guys,

Allow me to apologize for the confusion that the wording of my message in the 3Dice chat caused. (It's been changed). As previous posters have pointed out, this only referred to the begging that has been going on to some of our valued players, and we came at a point where a warning for that was definitely in place.

People will be people, and unfortunately, its always the nice ones being victimized. We don't tolerate begging in the b&m (average response time to get muscle over would be about 30 secs), and we wont tolerate it in the 3Dice chat either. My message was intended to be strong, I guess I just overdid it a tiny bit ;). mea culpa !

(just my luck it was april 1st :D)

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
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I just wanted to say thanks to 3Dice for the daily tournaments. I don't play them often and have never won a tournament but it's a great option sometimes. Unfortunately freebies bring out the casino whoring crowd. It was somewhat overdue for 3Dice to draw the line.

On a related matter I for one hope that the "way too sweet" threads about 3Dice will decrease because this player sees them as just a different form of panhandling.
 
kakata said:
If you live in that area.....you are not fare away from hallandale beach blv.
I suggest you try Nando Trattoria italian restaurant....best ever, trust me.:thumbsup:
Thats the place were Ill take my friends if they will really show up one day.(message for RW and company)
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next time down to fla i'll give it a try. my place is in davie, off orange, 5 minutes from hard rock. not too far from hallandale beach bvd.
 

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