Bogus Complaint joe90joe VS Platinum Play

[Casinomeister]

Yo joe,

Shut the hell up. Thank you.

As for Facebook, it's a very useful tool that a number of casinos to include Max and me in determining whether or not people are who they say they are. We had one guy denying up and down until Tuesday that he wasn't a student - his Facebook page claimed other wise . We had a a few issues where a person denied knowing someone else. But they were friends on Facebook.

We've even had a case where one person claimed to be someone. I contacted her via her Facebook page and she had no clue on who I was (stolen ID). And we had a situation where a affiliate program denied any connection with another - yet they were all buddy buddies on FB to include shared company names. It's a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive....

So FB can be a helpful tool if you know how to use it right.

 

[joe90joe]

Why am I being treated with disrespect. Jheeze I thought this was meant to be a helpful Forum. Why you on my back so much?

Look. FACT is you can do any investigating you like on my Facebook Page, I do not know a Theresa nor have I set up any other accounts at any other Casinos than myself.

I think its funny how paranoid people are that they stalk Facebook accounts.

 

[bsilva028]

Why am I being treated with disrespect. Jheeze I thought this was meant to be a helpful Forum. Why you on my back so much?

Look. FACT is you can do any investigating you like on my Facebook Page, I do not know a Theresa nor have I set up any other accounts at any other Casinos than myself.

I think its funny how paranoid people are that they stalk Facebook accounts.

oyu dont have any duplicated account in another casino from them?

and the forum its helpful forum
when problems are genuine
but its not a blaming forum

if you are 100% sure that you are correct and that casino its not doing good, PAB the case, stop posting and wait for the results.

 

[CakeKing]

my bad

 

[joe90joe]

I made a PAB 2 hours ago.

Am I allowed to still continue in discussion here with fellow members?

 

[CakeKing]

You might want to read the Pitch a bitch FAQ and no your not suppose to discuss the issue here anymore.

 

[Casinomeister]

I made a PAB 2 hours ago.

Am I allowed to still continue in discussion here with fellow members?

I'm pretty sure that in the PAB FAQs it says not to continue discussing your issue in public. That's why I kindly asked you to shut the hell up.

But it's your PAB, if Max tosses it to the curb, that's his call.

 

[Jasminebed]

I thought I'd add I'm facebook friends with people I don't know in real life, mostly from this forum or other gambling ones.

I do hope that if I'm linked to any fraudsters or suspected fraudster a casino would contact me and inform me if they discover this association.

I was recently somewhat disturbed to join a casino and find the user name "Jasminebed" taken. I did double check with support to make sure I didn't already have and account, and am a little worried still by it.

 

[skiny]

Why am I being treated with disrespect. Jheeze I thought this was meant to be a helpful Forum. Why you on my back so much?

Look. FACT is you can do any investigating you like on my Facebook Page, I do not know a Theresa nor have I set up any other accounts at any other Casinos than myself.

I think its funny how paranoid people are that they stalk Facebook accounts.

I've always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty but you're really not helping your case. It's pretty rare that a reputable casino wrongfully accuses a player of fraudulent activity but mistakes are possible. In these cases a third party can be asked to look at all of the information. That is the stage you are in now.

But rather than sit back an allow the process to run it's course you continue to post here in the very thread you were told not to. Sarcastic replies will not convince members of this forum of your innocence and even if they did we're not the ones that need to be convinced.

In my experience when new people show up here to proclaim their innocence, the more belligerent they behave the less likely it is they're actually being honest. Go read the jokes or attic threads until the process has run it's course. Post all you like about unrelated topics and stop being sarcastic toward the people you're asking to help you.

 

[skiny]

I thought I'd add I'm facebook friends with people I don't know in real life, mostly from this forum or other gambling ones.

I do hope that if I'm linked to any fraudsters or suspected fraudster a casino would contact me and inform me if they discover this association.

I was recently somewhat disturbed to join a casino and find the user name "Jasminebed" taken. I did double check with support to make sure I didn't already have and account, and am a little worried still by it.

Don't worry. We know you're the real Jasminbed. We'll accept no substitutes.

 

[joe90joe]

Please Excuse me for breaking the rules regarding PAB.

I will not comment no further on this thread. I will just finally add, Can you or Max please make a decision before calling me a fraudster with HARD evidence supporting PP accusation. Its just because I have read elsewhere today that PP have been getting away with this for a while now.

 

[irmster]

how to endear yourself to people whose help you are seeking.

Oh dear.

 

[Casinomeister]

Please Excuse me for breaking the rules regarding PAB.

I will not comment no further on this thread..

Ok.

I will just finally add,

Oh dear

Can you or Max please make a decision before calling me a fraudster with HARD evidence supporting PP accusation. Its just because I have read elsewhere today that PP have been getting away with this for a while now.

I may not call you a fraudster, but I can make a clear and concise decision that you are a pain in the ass and are violating our venerated rules - specifically rule 1.18:

1.18 - Don't be a PITA Members who just don't have a clue on what is socially acceptable, or are just too annoying will have their accounts closed. The administration and moderators of Casinomeister reserve the right to close accounts at our discretion. This may be a public forum that encourages freedom of expression, but it's still our house. Abuse it and lose it.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/forum-rules/

Tread carefully.

 

[MisterBJ]

Please Excuse me for breaking the rules regarding PAB.

I will not comment no further on this thread. I will just finally add, Can you or Max please make a decision before calling me a fraudster with HARD evidence supporting PP accusation. Its just because I have read elsewhere today that PP have been getting away with this for a while now.

OP I'm willing to BET you're one post away from having your PAB tossed out. Quit commenting, not even to say 'hello'. Until your claim has been processed. Afterwards you can read the thread from the outside looking in LOL.

 

[dunover]

I just seen this thread has been updated, I did suggest the possibility of duplicate accounts earlier and I'd wager that FL did their homework before acting.
I do get a sense of the OP's outrage that he/she hasn't gotten the universal unequivocal support that was expected. People need to take note of this fact; CM is balanced and has people that will look into every nook and cranny in a player's complaint and being heavy on outrage and light on truth or facts will ultimately get one nowhere.

 

[hakapuku]

Hi everyone

I have replied to the OP's PM and, as this issue has been discussed widely in this thread, I also need to inform you of why the OP's accounts were locked and why her winnings were confiscated.

As mentioned in a number of previous posts, we conduct extensive security checks on players we suspect of attempting to commit fraud against our casinos. We will only lock accounts and confiscate winnings where we are satisfied that we are indeed dealing with a fraudster as it is not in the interest of business locking accounts of proper, bona fide players.

In this particular case the OP opened multiple accounts, using the details of friends she had invited to her Facebook page. She then attempted to change the personal details and e-mail addresses afterwards to that of her own. All these "different" players shared the same identifiers, same passwords, purchasing accounts and played exactly the same games.

She disputed the issue with eCOGRA who also turned down her dispute.

Her accounts will remain locked and she has been put onto a central negative database to prevent her from defrauding other casinos as well.

I hope this clears up this issue.

Regards

Wim

FL representative replies seem inconsistent. First they claim that a group of players used same "purchasing accounts" (what additional prove do you need if you have this one? ). And later he asks the OP if he already has sent his documents to the casino.

 

[chuchu59]

I made a PAB 2 hours ago.

Am I allowed to still continue in discussion here with fellow members?

Of course you can continue discussing as long as you are willing to wave your money goodbye. Many of us here have come across bogus players fraudsters who are all too happy to proclaim innocence and bash whoever stand in their way. They are afraid of being caught out once the PAB runs its course and they wont be able to grab their winnings. From the little trust I had in you its now 0 as you seemed too eager to claim you are innocent and from experience its normally the opposite.

 

[maxd]

Some Casinos just do not like to be fair to players who win so big I take it.

I'm sorry If I offended him or you ... I did not slate them in any way.

See above, you can't slag a casino off that way and expect there will be no repercussions. Speak crap expect pain. Simples.

And you didn't "offend" us, you've pissed us off by being a PITA. Big difference.

Please Excuse me for breaking the rules regarding PAB.

Did you read the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ before you merrily kept on posting AFTER you'd filed your PAB? Obviously not. So you are ignoring our advice here and in the FAQ AND you want us to help you. How exactly does that make sense to you?

As to your PAB my curiousity is peaked so in spite of your misbehaviours I am going to pursue the thing to its conclusion. And yes that means having evidence before me to base the decision on, as the FAQ makes clear (did I mention you should have read it? ).

Also, thread title changed, wouldn't want it to adversely affect your PAB.

 

[DepositSpinLose]

up and up

all I can say about platinum play is good cs and always pays. total trust in Platinum and group!

 

[Nifty29]

Strap yourselves in!

 

[DepositSpinLose]

come on nifty

come on Whole Mighty Nifty....gotta be more than that.

like everyone says here, play where you are comfortable and nowhere else.

meister is doing what he always felt is right!


oh did anyone ever mention on the topic that when you win a bit IT IS NATURAL TO RAISE BET BECAUSE YOUR MIND ALWAYS SAYS YOU WILL WIN AGAIN.....your mind will over write your common sense and this is what happens to most players/wagers. it's just a thing that occurs in our minds.

 

[Casinomeister]

The guy PABd - Wim responded with damning evidence - the guy is a fraudster trying to drum up a torch and pitchfork crew here.

My suggestion for Joe: take a long walk on a short pier. Thanks!

 

[kieranbkieran]

So what exactly did the OP do? FL made several excuses. I personally think its biased here towards FL and some other groups because I lost a PAB before when I broke no terms.

I suppose I will be banned for expressing my opinion but hey that's what I thought Forums were for right????

 

[chuchu59]

So what exactly did the OP do? FL made several excuses. I personally think its biased here towards FL and some other groups because I lost a PAB before when I broke no terms.

I suppose I will be banned for expressing my opinion but hey that's what I thought Forums were for right????

The OP was not trying to provide any evidence to prove that the identifiers were just coincidence. Instead he tried to stir emotions with no real proof. FL can and did err in the past but you take the bull by the horns and prove that the 'personal identifiers' are wrong and not just shout innocence.

Don't try to be a martyr. This forum never bans people for expressing opinions . In fact Bryan and co. are extremely tolerant but will ban spammers and fraudsters. As for forums being an avenue for expressing opinions that's correct but we cannot allow fraudsters to make use of forums to coerce casinos to pay.

 

[Nifty29]

So what exactly did the OP do? FL made several excuses. I personally think its biased here towards FL and some other groups because I lost a PAB before when I broke no terms.

I suppose I will be banned for expressing my opinion but hey that's what I thought Forums were for right????

Kieranbkieran.....joe90joe......unusual usernames with the same pattern. Weird. Live very close by too...spooky.

Anyway, the OP has been PROVEN as a fraudster. You will NOT be seeing this evidence, but Max and Bryan have seen it. So, you either take their word for it, or you don't. If you don't, then what are you doing being a member of a forum run by liars?

FL have a proven track record of integrity and fair treatment of GENUINE players with GENUINE issues.

Why do you want to know exactly what the OP did wrong kieran? Sometimes people ask because it helps them cheat better next time.