ifrimm vs Fortune Lounge

[ifrimm]

Is here a good place to present a problem with Europalace ? I have more than 4k canceled even if I completed all their requests (things like holding my documents in front of a camera and make pictures with them)....and until now I don't have a reasonable explanation.

 

[maphesto]

Is here a good place to present a problem with Europalace ? I have more than 4k canceled even if I completed all their requests (things like holding my documents in front of a camera and make pictures with them)....and until now I don't have a reasonable explanation.

Try their rep here:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

Btw, did you place big bets on roulette and then cleared wagering on slots?

Read this:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/royal-vegas-takes-my-deposits-and-winnings.59198/

 

[ifrimm]

Btw, did you place big bets on roulette and then cleared wagering on slots?

No, I played exclusively slots

 

[fortunelounge]

No, I played exclusively slots

Hi ifrimm

As explained to you in my PM your winnings were confiscated (September 2012) due to you sharing identifiers with other Romanian players who are all also linked to each other. There are also similarities in terms of how all those accounts were registered

Although the account remained open it was locked recently when Euro Palace became part of the Fortune Lounge Group.

Regards

Wim

 

[maphesto]

Why do players, who shares ID with other players (FRAUD), think that they can show up here and easily recieve money?

As I read Wim's post, there are plenty of proof regardning this fraud. Not only "irregular play", this is fraud.

Normally Bryan closes members accounts when he know fraud is committed, let's see this one.

@ifrimm (if you still are here..):

Are you a fraudster?

 

[chuchu59]

Hi ifrimm

As explained to you in my PM your winnings were confiscated (September 2012) due to you sharing identifiers with other Romanian players who are all also linked to each other. There are also similarities in terms of how all those accounts were registered

Although the account remained open it was locked recently when Euro Palace became part of the Fortune Lounge Group.

Regards

Wim

Do you mean that this player only played at EP whereas the others played at the other FL casinos? If so, though they shared identifiers technically this player wasn't committing fraud before EP joined FL. If those other players claimed the SUB at FL and ifrimm claimed the SUB at EP the sharing of identifiers does not warrant the confiscation of winnings.

 

[fortunelounge]

Do you mean that this player only played at EP whereas the others played at the other FL casinos? If so, though they shared identifiers technically this player wasn't committing fraud before EP joined FL. If those other players claimed the SUB at FL and ifrimm claimed the SUB at EP the sharing of identifiers does not warrant the confiscation of winnings.

Hi chuchu

No, they all played at Euro Palace in this case. They picked this up in September 2012.

Regards

Wim

 

[ifrimm]

Hello Wim

Europalace invited me to deposit in order to get a promotion when I won the amount of 4836 Eur. They apply the classical scheme you lose is ok you win we void all your winnings even if we invited you play at our casino.

I asked you to define me the term "identifiers" and the action of sharing identifiers. Also I want to know what I have done because I do not understand to many things from this explanation:

Your winnings were confiscated because you were sharing identifiers with other players, who, in turn, also share identifiers with another group of players.

Someone saw to many times Inception movie.

maphesto

As I read Wim's post, there are plenty of proof regardning this fraud.

So you read a post and you know that are a lot of proofs of fraud ?

Try a google search about frotune lounge group and see with your own eyes the other side of this group.

 

[maphesto]

I have seen FL group and their irregular play confiscation, I do not like it.

This time it looks like an id issue, I might be wrong. Can you please make a PAB. You obviously claim no fraud, then FL lies..

 

[fortunelounge]

Hi

The issue relates to fraud and not irregular betting and I have already advised the OP to PAB or to contact eCOGRA.

Please note that the withdrawal was confiscated in September 2012 and he contacted support on 2/09/2012 and was asked to return certain additional verification documents. A copy of his utility bill was requested and, as in the case with every single one of the players that were linked, he was also living with his parents and was unable to supply it. EP attempted to contact the OP and as with each of the other players (who all registered only mobile numbers) the call was diverted to someone claiming to be the player. This happened every time an attempt was made to contact any of the players in this linked group. The similarities and links, however, do not end there.

The first time the OP contacted support again to query this was only on 27/09/2013. This, in itself, is also very odd.

Regards

Wim

 

[ifrimm]

Please note that the withdrawal was confiscated in September 2012 and he contacted support on 2/09/2012 and was asked to return certain additional verification documents.

I have completed all your requests I send two times pictures with me holding my ID and a recent utility bill in front of my face.

he was also living with his parents and was unable to supply it

I send a utility bill in my name as I said above, my parents have nothing to do with our relation and I don't see why you have to involve outsiders.

registered only mobile numbers

In my country is a common practice to have only mobile phone and is my choice what number I give you.

the call was diverted to someone claiming to be the player.

Wim I send pictures with me with my face ....my call was not diverted and you don't have any evidence regarding this because I did not diverted my call please come with evidence and you will close my mouth.

The first time the OP contacted support again to query this was only on 27/09/2013. This, in itself, is also very odd.

My situation is next I had a balance of 4600 Eur and last year I made a withdraw of 2k if I am not wrong that sum was confiscated but my account was opened until last month when I made a new withdraw of 2.6k.


Wim why I was invited to play this was my second deposit and was made after Europalace invitation ?

 

[fortunelounge]

Hi ifrimm

As advised please PAB or contact eCOGRA on the address I gave you.

Regards

Wim

 

[chuchu59]

Ifrimm,

Its your word against the casino's. Please PAB if what you say is true. I am particularly interested in knowing whether you had really provided your utility bill as FL said you hadn't with an excuse you lived with your parents.

 

[Casinomeister]

Hi ifrimm,

You need to PAB today - or contact ecogra. Two weeks have passed since your initial public forum complaint. On the surface it looks like a case of trying to get a casino to pay up via bad publicity which violates our form rules.

You have 12 hours to submit a complaint. If we don't hear anything, your forum account is dust (will be closed).

 

[chayton]

I'm assuming you also sent an email to the OP with this time limit Bryan? Just because not everyone is around the forum every day....

Unlike some of us who should be on salary.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I'm assuming you also sent an email to the OP with this time limit Bryan? Just because not everyone is around the forum every day....

Unlike some of us who should be on salary.

Would also had been better to give OP at least 48-72 hours to respond? 12 hours lol???

 

[Casinomeister]

Would also had been better to give OP at least 48-72 hours to respond? 12 hours lol???

It's my spidey sense. I had a good feeling that the OP wasn't legit. Its been over three days now - not a peep.

I'm assuming you also sent an email to the OP with this time limit Bryan? Just because not everyone is around the forum every day....

Unlike some of us who should be on salary.

Yes, message sent - and the OP has logged in since then.

Salary??

 

[chayton]

Salary??

Or an hourly rate, either way.