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From player to player - what casinos do you have left to put your money on?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by kimss, Nov 7, 2016.

    Nov 7, 2016
  1. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    I would first off say that casinomeister is a great place and the accredited list is just a god send for us players. But this is the forum so we are allowed to share our opinions and I am also assuming every player does not play at casinos from the rogue list at all! To be honest there should be no reason at all to play at a casino present on the rogue list, if not you are waiting for your big win and for someone to just decapitate you from your win with a laugh! Some of the casinos that are crooked are even as unprofessional they will laugh in your face over the phone when they confiscate your money - I had that experience!

    So what I would like to do, and I do hope you find any use for this, is share some quick notes for what casinos I have had problems with where there were not supposed to be any problems. To be honest this is my way of giving back to you players so you do not need to experience what I or my friends experienced from theese casinos. Some might be accredited - but whatever status they what happened happened and cannot be undone.

    spilleautomater.com / sveacasino.com / cherrycasino.com / eurolotto
    Be aware that when winning getting verified will become problematic. They will use any document needed to make ut hard for you, and from personal experience it took me a week to get verified. And as soon as I had lost the whole win - I was verified. Nice! Another friend of mine had the same experience last week, however he lost a 50K win because of their problems for verifying an account. If I were you - I would not play at theese casinoes to be honest! They screwed me over for my wins, and they screwed a friend of mine aswell same pattern. Do remember I am a compulsive gambler - so I am sorry to say it is not always possible for me to look at a win for 7 days without gambling on it again. Therefore cashout and verification is crutial when you actually use it.

    21prive.com / reelisland.com / gdaycasino.com
    Be aware they will let you deposit, they will let you play, they will even let you win and withdraw. Then they will confiscate your entire winnings for a personal opinion of a technicality in their complex T&C and leave your account with the initial deposit. At the same time they block your IP in their firewall so that communicating with them is impossible until you have a new IP. To top it they will still send you pronmotions and you are welcome to play again at their casino after your money are confiscated. Theese casinos have the highest freespins of them all - and the sickest wagering requirements aswell for surviving for a cashout so I find it damn annoying when my friend was robbed by them for 10.000 NOK. (In short, when you complete the freespins balance was played to zero before depositing with a WR attached for the match - they assume that this kind of behaviour is bonus abuse. I have all the details if needed, Im sure my friend would love the 10.000 to!)

    rizk.com
    In fairness a very good casino I have never experienced problems but my friend did, so this could happen for the same reason. My friend was lucky getting a large win on rizk.com, was up for 50.000 NOK and cached out and started verification process. The process took over 7 days, and during the first days he was foolish enough to play down his win to 9.000 NOK which was enabled with rizk's LOCK feature so that the withdrawal couldnt be reversed. They marked this functionality, its a good function all casinos should have this. However there is a problem with it, a big one! It seems to be the case that if your LOCK is more than 7 days it will be released... So at the same time as verification was completed my friend found his funds playable again. He managed to lose even more since it had been days of no play and only arguing with support, thats how gamblers work I know this is why that function is there... Thats the enture point of the LOCK function that the money will never be possible to wager unless deposited back into the casino. Anyway he managed to get out 4000. But from a 50.000 to 4.000 I cant really say he feels very happy. That being said my experience with Rizk is nothing of that kind, they are super fast together with guts.com the quickest I ever experienced in my online gambling life so I will recommend them at the hardest! But be aware if you are that unlucky dude getting into verification problems - remember the feature to protect your withdrawal resets in 7 days... Usually their payouts are within the hour.

    vera&john.com
    I lost my temper when I was trying to verify myself with them. It must be said that in Norway you cannot use Visa or Mastercard to deposit on a casino since its forbidden by law, this is why we have several gift card options available in stores like paysafe/paygoo/spendon and so on. Theese cards are nothing else than one time cards, since buying new ones are cheaper then reloading them there are no reason to reload if all you need is to deposit. So over a period of time there will be lots of credit cards being used in an account, and since the cards are gift cards for the sole reason to move cash from my pocket into the casino I throw them away. vera&john stalled the entire verification process and wanted me to have scanned copies of all these cards and when I told them they were gift cards that didnt help. After calling them and going bananas on the phone I got them to understand what kind of cards theese were and the account was verified and problem solved. I had to explode to get it done I remember, which I feel was very not needed. Casinos should keep up to date with what number ranges belong to virtual cards, gift cards and such and I feel it is not need at all wasting 1-3 days clarifying gift cards... I got all my money out from them, so only misunderstanding with them were the cards. I have never experienced other problems with them - but again this moment is the CRUTIAL moment for a player.

    I would also add that I could give a finger aswell to spilleautomater.com, sveacasino.com, superlenny.com, mobilautomaten.com and easily more for giving me bullshit about entropaycards, paysafe cards and gift cards. They have many deposits with theese at daily basis - if not I am to belive I am the only norwegian... so in 2016 technical support should know theese things and they shouldnt require photoes of digital card or visa versa. If I were new in this game I would fall for this, as its a scheme used on every player to you are the one that learns them how it works... But I have experienced this so many times now I am fed up and do not need it.

    An easy way to filter casinos that want to stall at a basic level - in Norway this applies to all casinos. I believe it would apply to the world since licenses are in malta... If the win is below 23.000 NOK - you do not need papers at all. Verification is optinal, but really its a hassle and takes up time so some casinos only do this if you win big... Think about that... And think about those that MUST have theese papers, and dont understand difference of online and offline cards...

    crazywinner.com
    I never deposited here and never had the adventure of trying a cashout here, but I have talked with support at some occations while playing freespins there and I recommend this if you have little else to do. Their support personall will eagerly try to throw some fine deposit matches on you and avoid mentioning the T&C attached for your freespins which are horrible including all sorts of you screwing up. Also there is a max cashout depending on your next deposit, which you are not informed about at all but I guess we are supposed to read our selves. Well - a casino that does what they can do to trick me - I have nothing left for them. I remember talking to a person there going into details for their wagering requirements and my pquestion was what I needed to wager and what I needed to deposit to be able to cash out my winnings (I had €100 in balance). He would not give me a straight up answer, he only wanted to push a deposit on me with a great match bonus of 200% or 300% I remember. When I combined info from earlier in our chat and it went something like - but if I am unable to cash out anything more than 100 euro - because winnings are from freespins - why on earth do you try to make me deposit as I cannot withdraw any winnings from the deposit as all winnings are regarded as winnings from freespins. I can only withdraw 100 in any case... And surely this is when I lost him... Sneaky sneaky, but they are responsible for making me understand how crazy theese no deposit freespins really are when combinded with a real deposit. They intend to fool you from the start, or they had lawyers crafting to good rules in their T&C - I end up as a sucker so no thanks!

    7 Sultans / Euro Palace / Platinum Play / Royal Vegas / Vegas Palms / Red Flush / Casinolavida
    A few years back when this happened, but they are all the same. That gang from south africa is the worst I ever met in my gambling career as they did represent a large casino group. Well atleast that was my understanding of the online casino industry at the time. - I do have emails they sure have them and the papers needed in the end. In short this is what happened. I won my largest win at the time - 50.000+ NOK. But when I cashed out - which was a HUGE step for me - all hell broke lose. They confiscated the money, they couldnt even descide internally what to say. It was in this process I learned alot about the support personel that answers chats and phones and what relation they are into their employers. In the end I got the verification when all money was lost. I have to mention that they blocked the entire verification process everytime like they were a judge, and each time was another lie. The best one was when I was accused of using a card that was never used in the casino I won but they took it from another casino and mixed the data - the card was also expired years ago and to make it even worse they stated that their security team had found this card and it belonged to my girlfriend at the time that also had an account. Then they wanted a copy of it for it to go away... Now thats a pickle, as the card WAS mine, years ago. I cannot get a copy of a card that was not used in the account I won, it expired 2 years before the win, and from their security department ut now belnged to my girfriend aswell. Long story short - I had the head of the bank write a letter explaining for the casino it was my card years ago expired so not possible to use at all or take picture of but probably signed letter from bank would do. I got the other bank aswell to explain to Platinum Casino that the card they tried to frame on my girlfriend did not exist had not existed and will not exist. After this lie was cleared up I kinda understood I will never get my money, so I faught for some more days having to explain my relationship to my girlfriend in writing but always a new problem. So I wasted the entire win after trying to get the money out for weeks. And funny thing - As soon as I had lost them all I went onto support with the woman that was the front for their scheme and asked again for verification well aware I would not get it and get new idiotic explernations. But then I told her - what TF is your problem - the money is gone I gave it back to you - what are you now defending? And I was verified... They screwed me over so big that I hate all south africans because of this! Assholes to be honest, and damn drilled sergeants aswell they were good at it aswell! This was their way - steal the money from winners! I have been burned so hard by theese that I cannot simply recomend them to any people without feeling abit retarded! I became more retarded after having to do with theese people over 12+ months - I think I have recooperated now.

    My list of casinos that I can wager on has also shrunk over time, but please help me by giving tips of casinos I should try out ( note verification and cashout I do not want trouble there ), or as there are casinos here I havnt yet cashed out at I might get into trouble so if I need to remove some please tell so. If you didnt get your money - it could happen to me to!

    In no particular order

    MG CASINOS I will use:

    Spin Palace
    Mummys Gold
    Ruby Fortune
    Cabaret Club
    32red casino:
    Dash Casino
    Nedplay casino:
    Golden Lounge:
    Wild Jackpots
    Go Wild casino
    Aztec Riches Casino
    Blackjack Ballroom
    Captain Cooks Casino
    Casino Action
    Casino Classic
    Casino Kingdom
    Casino Share
    Challenge Casino
    Colosseum Casino
    Golden Reef Casino
    Golden Tiger Casino
    Grand Mondial
    Grand Hotel Casino
    Lucky Emperor Casino
    Luxury Casino
    Music Hall Casino
    Nostalgia Casino
    Phoenician Casino
    Players Palace Casino
    Quatro casino
    Rich Reels Casino
    Strike It Lucky Casino
    UK Casino Club
    Vegas Country Casino
    Vegas Slot Casino
    Virtual City Casino
    Yukon Gold Casino
    Zodiac Casino
    Villento Casino
    lucky247.com

    Netent / xxx

    allaustraliancasino.com
    annacasino.com
    bethard.com
    betive.com
    betsafe.com
    betspin.com/no
    bgo.com
    bitstarz.com
    cashmio.com
    casinocruise.com
    casinoeuro.com
    casinojefe.com
    casinoroom.com/no/
    casinostugan.com
    casumo.com
    chanz.com
    comeon.com
    drueckglueck.com
    expekt.com
    extraspel.com
    folkeautomaten.com
    galaxypig.com
    grandivy.com
    grandx.com
    guts.com
    igame.com
    instacasino.com
    jackpotparadise.com
    karamba.com
    karlcasino.com
    leovegas.com
    luckycasino.com
    luckydino.com
    mamamiabingo.com
    maria.com
    mobil6000.com
    mobilautomaten.com
    mobilbet.com
    mrgreen.no
    mywin24.com
    nextcasino.com
    nordicbet.com
    nordicslots.com
    norgescasino.com
    norskeautomater.com
    norskelodd.com
    oddsautomaten.com
    omnislots.com
    pingocasino.com/no
    primescratchcards.com
    princessstar.com
    redbet.com
    rizk.com/no
    royalpanda.com
    simbagames.com
    slotsmagic.com
    suomikasino.com
    superlenny.com
    thrills.com
    tradacasino.com
    unibet.com
    vegasparadise.com
    verajohn.com
    videoslots.com
    vikingslots.com
    vinnarum.com
    winadaycasino.eu
    wunderino.com
    yakocasino.com

    Okidoki cant wait for some comments on my complaints here - always fun to share some of the bad experiences one have had over the years!
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2016
  2. Nov 7, 2016
  3. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

    Occupation:
    A bit of this and that
    Location:
    EU
    Just something to say about Rizk.
    For me the verification process was very fast, also the withdrawals and I love the lock function.
    But my (very limited these days) budget will go to VS because of the bigger game selection. My most played games are not in Rizk, and although Rizk has fast withdrawals VS is faster. So fast that it is the ultimate “lock”. :D
    Of course, the real test for fast withdrawals would be with 4-5 figure amounts and I didn’t have any yet.
     
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  4. Nov 7, 2016
  5. hedgehok

    hedgehok Senior Member mm3

    Occupation:
    self-employed
    Location:
    Germany
    If you had verification issues so often you might have something to blame yourself with too. However I can sympathise with your comments regarding south African MG casinos. They are indeed likely to pull some tricks when you have a bigger withdrawal (bonuses on reversals, stalling-tactics etc.).

    Thanks for making a big effort in sharing your experiences.
     
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  6. Nov 7, 2016
  7. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    I don't believe the OP's list is comprehensive enough and needs far more attention to detail :eek:
     
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  8. Nov 7, 2016
  9. nikantw

    nikantw Ueber Meister MM PABaccred

    Occupation:
    A bit of this and that
    Location:
    EU
    Not defending the casinos, but I understand how careful they have to be.
    Unfortunately, I don’t think you can be 100% sure for fast verification/cashout at any casino.
    My advice is to trust the accredited section and the ranking, read the MM reports, and try to make things as easy for them as possible. Meaning use the same e-wallet, same email, same address, same pc, on every casino for as long as possible.
     
  10. Nov 7, 2016
  11. TradaCasino

    TradaCasino Official rep for Trada Casino

    Occupation:
    Head of Casino
    Location:
    Dublin, Ireland
    Good choice :lolup:
     
  12. Nov 7, 2016
  13. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    Re the use of gift cards, vouchers etc. Always keep them. I got quite a stack myself, and I don't use them regularly. Recently had a pain in the ass time with some I'd used at Videoslots, although I was aware they would be required. That same period I also used one at 32Red, and they knew the difference and told me not to worry, it would never be requested. Still kept the card however.
     
  14. Nov 7, 2016
  15. Steviedoo

    Steviedoo Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Writer
    Location:
    South
    spit out my coffee at this one goatwhack!
     
  16. Nov 7, 2016
  17. adamtheaddict

    adamtheaddict Senior Member

    Occupation:
    fruits
    Location:
    Kent
    Should maybe consider learning how to count & memorize cards and play land based card games instead of slotting if you literally just picked that list of casinos you play at from the back of your head. ;) I have trouble remembering all of the 8-10 or so casinos i play at.
    Still, interesting read, ty.

    Africans can stall a bit but you get there in the end. Currently waiting for a decent 7 figure amount to be credited to my account as it is. Have had to send a few grand more than once via western union to nigeria to help speed up the transaction but the guy keeps calling me and insists everything is A OK, which is rare imo if compared to a lot of CS from other countries where you have to make the call yourself as otherwise can get ignored. :thumbsup:
     
  18. Nov 7, 2016
  19. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    I would say that casino offering theses chuck away cards etc should have things in place or know what they are, No point in offering them as a payment method than its impossible to get them verified,


    I seen you had GDay as a complex terms, I agree but as per all the sites in that group such as the min £1 bet to count towards wager yet any bet still counts,

    But than you go on to say what sites you play including the some that are in the same group as 21prive and gday, Albeit white labels they still use all the back end for verification etc as far as I am aware all the same terms?
     
  20. Nov 8, 2016
  21. BrianGhattas

    BrianGhattas Where's My Handpay?!?

    Occupation:
    Freelancer
    Location:
    Ottawa, Ontario
    There are no more worthy new casinos for me to try. I will stick with VSO/Leo Vegas/PlayOLG.ca for now.
     
  22. Nov 8, 2016
  23. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Thanks for noticing this, I have moved them over to my STAYAWAY list of NONO casinos. I have that list to and it keeps groing. I might add that the following reasons apply when I move the casino into my RIP section.

    1. Rouged
    2. Google searches finds people not getting paid
    3. Google searches finds casino representants engaging in dialogue where they are obfuscating their bonus terms going for the old "our customers are suckers" approach
    4. Cashouts potentially being capped if you do not read T&C thuroghly
    5. Casinos that promote freespins or free money but writes max $20 max cashout with small text, but informes you with LARGE TEXT when you win and are under the capping knife
    6. RTG casinos
    7. Sister casinos of a casino that I find croocked
    8. Casinos not longer available
    9. And if I was broke, went for a no deposit hunt and the bonus did not work I feel played aswell and put them there. If they cant make their website work on their advertised promotions I do not want to play there.

    In my opinion, if you want to deposit and win and cashout and expect a possibly 100% return (this would be the standard for all I guess) - then expect getting into problems you do not need if you are using any of theese :

     
  24. Nov 8, 2016
  25. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    Highnoon is an accredited casino,

    Do you actually play alot of casino or just stick to a few at a time?

    Also I feel the one where you said casino not offering bonus and they do not honor it, I was ripped of by Noxwin, In fact it was actually Skrill that was advertising them, When I asked where was the bonus I was told that bonus had finished, Yet skrill had the same offer and did not take it down,

    I asked them to remove the shit bonus that was added, But I nearly busted out so asked them to add the bonus back on, STUPID as my next spin bought in a good win and did not need the extra bonus, When wager had finally finished my balance shot down to £100, I asked why has my bonus gone to 100,

    I was told due to having a none deposit related bonus, I took out the 100 and not been back



     
  26. Nov 8, 2016
  27. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    I know, that didn't stop them in not paying out $300 to my frind Ryan. They want to screw you with a bonus, but if you win and beat the bonus terms I promise you a horrible customer experience calling from USA promising over and over again all is OK but in the end verification was never completed due to their technical departments did not trust Norwegian IDs - obviouslty. allstarslots is also accredited, won there to same prblem. Manhattanslots aswell - they never approved and one of them till this day havnt managed to transfer my $100 winnings into my netteller account.

    For me as a Norwegian - it seems all RTG casinos are criminals and liars! They lied to us when we took there offers and won! Everyone without exception - none of us here in Kristiansand was paid! Around 10 different cashouts så really alot of cash to be honest.

     
  28. Nov 8, 2016
  29. Captain Rizk

    Captain Rizk Accredited Casino Representative

    Occupation:
    Bullshit battling Superhero
    Location:
    Malta
    Hi kimss, thanks for the notes above - I cant speak for your friends case above but what i can say is that it is extremely unusual for a verification case to go on for so long, it is normally because we have not received the documentation that we need.

    However you bring up another good point about the withdrawal lock and the 7 days. This is actually not the withdrawal lock, this is a hangover of a long ago placed setting. The setting being that if a withdrawal has not been accepted in 7 days then it gets returned to the account because for obvious reasons, we cannot accrue an ever expanding liability that may or may not ever be fulfilled.

    However I do agree with you that 7 days is too short and we will have this setting extended asap and the withdrawal lock will still stay in effect for the amount fo time that the withdrawal is pending.
     
  30. Nov 10, 2016
  31. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Extending this to 30 days to make sure this never ever happends again sounds like the correct sollution in any case, given 7 days is unlikely 30 days will probably never ever happen in our existance. At present time the mechanism is counterintuitive and the outcome leaves the player with total loss of trust if it happends - which it did. I am glad that poiting out this weakness of your configuration results in a change - this will guaranteed make your casino maby one of the best platforms for the user since the user can enable the lock without asking support at all.

    Thumbs up Rizk!
     
  32. Jan 10, 2017
  33. lolo1

    lolo1 On a Break PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    unemployed
    Location:
    morrocco
    spilleautomater.com / sveacasino.com / cherrycasino.com / eurolotto
    Be aware that when winning getting verified will become problematic. They will use any document needed to make ut hard for you, and from personal experience it took me a week to get verified. And as soon as I had lost the whole win - I was verified. Nice! Another friend of mine had the same experience last week, however he lost a 50K win because of their problems for verifying an account. If I were you - I would not play at theese casinoes to be honest! They screwed me over for my wins, and they screwed a friend of mine aswell same pattern. Do remember I am a compulsive gambler - so I am sorry to say it is not always possible for me to look at a win for 7 days without gambling on it again. Therefore cashout and verification is crutial when you actually use it.


    Re Euro lotto I had exactly the same problem. Very very unlucky place to play.
     
  34. Jan 10, 2017
  35. 09237653

    09237653 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    .
    Location:
    UK
    One thing with casino rewards, although they have good regular promos, reliable cashouts etc. if you happen to end up doing well you may well find your loyalty balance locked, i had a few good wins over November/December and now my loyalty balance is locked, any bonuses are added to the loyalty points balance as as such cannot be claimed, and live help just bullshit you off with "the system does it there's nothing we can do" even as a "gold" member I get the shaft.
    so be warned. Its a shame really and a blight on their otherwise good service.
     

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  37. prop82

    prop82 Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Work in office
    Location:
    Germany
    Cherrycasino i had the same problem with. As i live with my girlfriend i do not get invoices for water stream phone etc.because all is adressed on her because she lived there first.
    They did not accept bill for mobilephone, insurance, invoice from amazon etcetc....in the end i had to go to citygouverment to take a proof of my adress....i understand there are rules for verification but do not understand why some oc accept my bill for mobile phone for example and others dont.....
     
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  39. lolo1

    lolo1 On a Break PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    unemployed
    Location:
    morrocco
    It's much more than just that .
     

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