forgotlogin vs BitStarz

[Playford7]

Him saying that he wasn't looking for money back, but was just warning everyone, says everything. Even the richest of the rich, want retribution if they feel they have been done wrong.

He’s supposedly a high roller also at the likes of rizk. There’s definitely more to this, although that said If you high rolled would you really play at this casino?.. I sure as hell wouldn’t.
Shame we ain’t gonna get a resolution.

 

[Playford7]

This whole thread is about clarity, and a guy who rather lose 40k then let anyone but the casino see what they have on him.
Clarity is great though so I hope he will give in and PAB

Pretty sure the casino have all they need on him otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Just a pity we won’t ever know what’s what.

 

[mack341]

just rereading the op's opening post, some bits stick out now going over it again:

provided all documents. LENGTHY list. including selfies and other such things.
eventually documents approved but then have to wait for game checks with provider. Ok no problem.

The next day is when the problems started. an email for further documents. basically they asked for a selfie outside my homestreet, holding ID. Sent it within an hour even i thought it was a strange request.

finally I want to point out the only reason I signed up here was the highly prominent approval given to it by askgamblers. and also a recent claim they paid 1.35million out within 10 minutes (something I highly doubt is true given my experience)

I also should have had my alarm bells ringing due to it being a primarily bitcoin casino (yes there surely are legitimate users of this stuff but it certainly has an air of criminality to it) . for the record i deposited using real euros from my bank card.

If it's one of the possibilities of fraud I'm thinking of, that the casino has accused him of, they can't then simply pocket the deposited money.
I think clarification from the rep/casino on this should be made at least

 

[ternur]

Doesn’t GDPR only apply to EU jurisdiction?

Territorial scope of GDPR applies to all data controllers or processors established in whole or in part in the EU.

The Regulation also applies if the controller of processor offers services or goods to EU data subjects or are monitoring the behaviour of those data subjects (if the behaviour takes place within EU). In this case it does not matter where the controller or processor is established.

 

[samdog21]

Hello @samdog21

If you can PM me your email at bitstarz - I can check why you was asked such docs.

Re warning - we are working on it, I'm working on each and every complaint with Max for pretty much decent time now, and I do not think Max can tell that I was slow or not honest anywhere.

And once again, Bitstarz recently paid over 1kk win within few hours (I checked myself, I know what I'm saying)...

Br,

V.

 

[samdog21]

like i said i closed my account at bitzstarz its not worth the stress i spent a week trying to get my money. only 1 casino my money goes vs all the way. you get paid when you withdrawty though. samdog21.

 

[ladyhawke]

Him saying that he wasn't looking for money back, but was just warning everyone, says everything. Even the richest of the rich, want retribution if they feel they have been done wrong.

Very true. EXCEPT...

...His only role on this forum is to warn and protect others...
.... but if this is true true why would he offer to have this thread deleted for information from the casino or out of fear for repercussions

(paraphrasing Mouche12 slightly here).

He can't have it both ways. Either he is trying to warn everyone (by posting here) or he isn't (by asking to have thread deleted).

And who would give up 40k so easily? I have some very rich friends, and all of them have stated they are rich because they are careful with their money, and would try their damndest to get this money if they were entitled to it.

And that is the crux of the matter. Is the OP entitled to anything?

Taking a stab in the dark here - IMHO sounds as if OP was hoping not so much to get his money, but to try to understand how he was caught out in the first place, And when this approach didn't pan out the way he had hoped, he is now trying to get this thread deleted, so no trace remains of his questionable actions.

If I am mistaken, I sincerely apologise to the OP.

 

[homerbert]

Hey guys!

I'm not sure why:

a) This thread is still so much discussed
b) Why some of you trying to blame me in something

Customer posted a thread with complaints in regards to one of our white labels. Of course as it's our WL - I was interested to check. I checked, spoked with casino team, and I agreed to their decision and informed user.

If user not agree - he can PAB or sent complaint to Curacao. Everything else - just direct damage to a brand without any reason.

I'm Direx rep, not Bitstarz in this thread. And I will not post any further details. But I believe Bitstarz have their own thread on CM, so you can try to ask him.

That's all from me, and like always have a great start of the day! It's FRIDAY

BR,

V.

 

[maxd]

Doesn’t GDPR only apply to EU jurisdiction?

GDPR _officially_ applies to anyone anywhere offering services to an EU citizen.

By asking a PABer to give explicit permission we accomplish three things:

1. Explicit permission as required by GDPR (applicable where the PABer is an EU).
2. Exicit permission for those casinos that are reluctant to discuss player cases (applies to everyone).
3. Makes it clear to everyone that permission was requested and given (helpful re player and casino AND protects us against any "invasion of privacy" claims (it has happened)).

So obviously adding that requirement to the PAB form is a no-brainer.

 

[forgotlogin]

my appologies homerbert i thought you represented bitstarz, not direx.
i am a VIP at another direx casino, playamo (same email) and there i have had no issues. so mod, please remove thread title reference about direx. this is against bitstarz alone.

ftr, i will proceed with pab if it is agreed i will be privvy to whatever (false?) information bitstarz puts forward

 

[samdog21]

nobody gets it meister posted warning about all direx casinos about payouts and said dont play at these casinos .the thread is still here somewhere. samdog21. i think back dec of 18.

 

[mack341]

nobody gets it meister posted warning about all direx casinos about payouts and said dont play at these casinos .the thread is still here somewhere. samdog21. i think back dec of 18.

I didn't know anything about this background situation when I posted in this thread, but I have now looked it up, there's an old british saying 'more front than brighton' along with 'pot calling the kettle black' ringing in my ears...

 

[ternur]

GDPR _officially_ applies to anyone anywhere offering services to an EU citizen.
[...]

Just a friendly clarification about the applicability of GDPR for the bolded part.

Article 3(1) does not restrict the application of the GDPR to the processing of personal data of individuals who are in the EU.

The EDPB (European Data Protection Board) considers "that any personal data processing in the context of the activities of an establishment of a controller or processor in the Union would fall under the scope of the GDPR, regardless of the location or the nationality of the data subject whose personal data are being processed."

GDPR is a very complex piece of legislation.

 

[MartiniMan]

Can understand an Aussie player swimming in risky waters and then getting into strife. The OP seems like he has no country restrictions.
Why deposit, much less highroll at a place like this, if your casino options aren't limited. That doesn't make any sense.

 

[mack341]

Can understand an Aussie player swimming in risky waters and then getting into strife. The OP seems like he has no country restrictions.
Why deposit, much less highroll at a place like this, if your casino options aren't limited. That doesn't make any sense.

well he did 'win' 33,000 so from that point of view it wasn't an unlucky casino . I thought this thread would just finish as an unanswered mystery but as the op says he is a VIP at another casino in the same group [presumably verified to obtain that status] the tale gets more interesting. I think we may need to bring columbo out of retirement for this one...

 

[Playford7]

well he did 'win' 33,000 so from that point of view it wasn't an unlucky casino . I thought this thread would just finish as an unanswered mystery but as the op says he is a VIP at another casino in the same group [presumably verified to obtain that status] the tale gets more interesting. I think we may need to bring columbo out of retirement for this one...

I was thinking more ironside...

 

[MartiniMan]

I vote for inspector Clouseau

 

[dionysus]

I vote for inspector Clouseau

what?
EVERYone knows who you go to for a good mystery solving

 

[dunover]

nobody gets it meister posted warning about all direx casinos about payouts and said dont play at these casinos .the thread is still here somewhere. samdog21. i think back dec of 18.

You mean this one?

GENERAL WARNING - Direx NV casinos are generating a lot of complaints

 

[homerbert]

You mean this one?

GENERAL WARNING - Direx NV casinos are generating a lot of complaints

You love us, I know mate. I always knew that.

 

[WinSumTon]

There are tons of complaints on bitcointalk about bitstarz casino. I honestly stop playing there because of their poor reasoning of confiscating people's withdraws (though I never had a problem). But this is one casino I would definitely tell others to avoid...

 

[samdog21]

hi thats what i say. iam telling you i think askgamblers is the flipside of meister they gave bitzstarz an award this year wtf. and those robot chat its the same thing when you ask a question. casino heroes they called this casino is a scam.

 

[Playford7]

hi thats what i say. iam telling you i think askgamblers is the flipside of meister they gave bitzstarz an award this year wtf. and those robot chat its the same thing when you ask a question. casino heroes they called this casino is a scam.

Ask gamblers is about as reputable as a Nigerian election.

 

[EkJR]

Hey guys!

I'm not sure why:

a) This thread is still so much discussed
b) Why some of you trying to blame me in something

Customer posted a thread with complaints in regards to one of our white labels. Of course as it's our WL - I was interested to check. I checked, spoked with casino team, and I agreed to their decision and informed user.

If user not agree - he can PAB or sent complaint to Curacao. Everything else - just direct damage to a brand without any reason.

I'm Direx rep, not Bitstarz in this thread. And I will not post any further details. But I believe Bitstarz have their own thread on CM, so you can try to ask him.

That's all from me, and like always have a great start of the day! It's FRIDAY

BR,

V.

"Raise a complaint to Curacao"....lol! Good luck with that.

 

[mack341]

Is this thread dead now, where's the op, have the bitcoin mafia perhaps silenced him for good?

statements and confident pronouncements need to be followed up IMO, there's something amiss with the logic

I would like a forensic analysis of this bitstarz casino, it sounds like they have got form for withholding winnings, but it's the withholding of a deposited balance that most concerns me in a case of alleged fraud by the player, if the group is accredited here should they not be required to clear this up?