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[Glassheart]

jesus F christ. i really wanted to stop posting here but..
i never knew it was mandatory to file a pab if you have an issue.
you lot are behaving like wolves.
i love rizk. i love leovegas. slotsmillion are great. they are all properly regulated. bitstarz are as you rightly put it, lockinlove, shady as hell

i might just open a pab just because it seems im being forced to by the voices of the community.

What people cant understand (myself included) is how you can just write off 40,000 smackers and not even attempt to use a free service that has reclaimed €5.2 million for players. You obviously wanted to get the money or you wouldn't have posted here but after you have seen the reply from Hombert you know the game is up.

To me that says guilty.

I am happy to eat my words on this but i dont imagine ill have to.

 

[mariafbb]

I am happy to eat my words on this but i dont imagine ill have to.

can I watch anyways ?

on topic, at least something intresting is happening
40k and then refuse to file a PAB and pretend it's nothing ?
what kind of world do you live in that 40k is nothing ?

 

[dunover]

Read here: Player Arbitration Policies and Procedures

Then: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/tickets/

 

[Mouche12]

Yes, it struck me too that the OP seems to have a (bit of an arrogant) attitude of "40K - it's peanuts to me". Which he tries to substantiate by claiming he deposited over 50K at Rizk. I understand he is (or claims to be) a high roller, but I don't believe for a second that high-end players would simply accept deposits + winnings being removed without any valid reason given. His only role on this forum is to warn and protect others. Not buying that.

Edited to add: but if the latter were true why would he offer to have this thread deleted for information from the casino or out of fear for repercussions (hitmen, really)?

 

[zreb]

While I think people were going a little too hard on the "doesn't want to submit pab? 100% chance of guilt" thing, it is very odd that the OP claims that he's happy that the thread is here to warn other players while before he said he would be willing to remove the thread if he received a result he was satisfied with.

The attitude in the first case is, when being willing to remove the thread - "if I get what I want, I don't care if other players have relevant info."

The attitude in the second case, being content that at least the thread is here - "as long as others have relevant info, I'm willing to eat the loss."

Pretty much complete opposite attitudes expressed by OP at different times within the thread.

 

[Playford7]

40k to almost anyone isn’t a amount to just disregard in order to ‘warn others’
Why on earth would you just write off such a amount?.. it’s bizarre
Also the simple and free option of PAB seems thus far not used either...why?
Also the rep homer seems a stand up guy and his words seem pretty strong and damning to say the least, as always there’s lots more to this story and I just hope we see the outcome.
Also didn’t know dazza g was now a affiliate for nike!..

 

[Mr Wild]

well if you are Bill Gates 40k is probably peanuts.

 

[samdog21]

well iam not fishy and same thing happened to me at bitzstarz i sent them everthing they ask for 4 times over 300$ they owe me gave up not worth the stress. mr meister you gave a warning about this whole group direx withholding money.i just close my account. and askgamblers please they gave bitzstar an award. samdog21

 

[homerbert]

well iam not fishy and same thing happened to me at bitzstarz i sent them everthing they ask for 4 times over 300$ they owe me gave up not worth the stress. mr meister you gave a warning about this whole group direx withholding money.i just close my account. and askgamblers please they gave bitzstar an award. samdog21

Hello @samdog21

If you can PM me your email at bitstarz - I can check why you was asked such docs.

Re warning - we are working on it, I'm working on each and every complaint with Max for pretty much decent time now, and I do not think Max can tell that I was slow or not honest anywhere.

And once again, Bitstarz recently paid over 1kk win within few hours (I checked myself, I know what I'm saying)...

Br,

V.

 

[Betreels Casino & Sports]

Can Max not simply query this with Bitstarz without a PAB?

If I was the OP, I would be doing everything I can to clear my name if I have been falsely accused. At the end of the day, it's all we get to take with us in the end.

 

[rena35]

Sometimes money is not worth the stress. Stress can be worse then anything else and at the end of the day do what is best for you. If you have other casino's to play at and you do not want to be bothered with all of this then play at those casinos. 40 grand is a lot of money. I would be glad to get 40 bucks right now . I hope everything works out whatever you decide.

 

[xexe]

youre right im a little worried because they know where i live, and i think bitcoin is associated with hitmen.

please close this thread.

If you're really serious that you're worried about hitmen, I can assure you that there's no reason to be. They're all a scam, even the infamous Besa Mafia. Their data was leaked and some people got charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

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It wouldn't make any sense for any of them to be real either. You got the bitcoin already, there's no reason to risk prison. Because what are the buyers going to do? Call the police and tell them you didn't kill x person for them? Leave a bad review online?

 

[mack341]

This is an interesting article I missed from december, there's no doubt organised crime wants to get inbedded into the gambling industry, it's easier to money launder if you own a casino/bookmakers or have people on the inside. I doubt the op need worry about an online casino based in curacao coming after him though, if he's feeling philanthropic with his money, submit a pab and if successful donate the 40k to a charity instead.

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[maxd]

Can Max not simply query this with Bitstarz without a PAB?

In the old days, sure thing, no problem. But we now live in a world with GDPR rules and the like.

The PAB submission process now requires the PABer give explicit permission for us to discuss their details with the casino. Keeps everything GDPR compliant and soforth.

 

[jelsmith]

I play at Bitstarz on the regular. Ive never had an issue ever. Instant payouts. Just my 2 cents

 

[thr0b]

In the old days, sure thing, no problem. But we now live in a world with GDPR rules and the like.

The PAB submission process now requires the PABer give explicit permission for us to discuss their details with the casino. Keeps everything GDPR compliant and soforth.

Doesn’t GDPR only apply to EU jurisdiction?

 

[bebo67]

The Rep mentioned fraud, which trumps any term or condition.

Is a rep allowed to disclose that publicly? Even just to hint at it?

 

[Playford7]

Is a rep allowed to disclose that publicly? Even just to hint at it?

No, I’d not of though so tbh as that’s assuming guilt on the player.
Some clarity here would be lovely.

 

[bebo67]

No, I’d not of though so tbh as that’s assuming guilt on the player.
Some clarity here would be lovely.

If so allowed, it just seems un professional imo. But what do I know, Lol

 

[Tirilej]

No, I’d not of though so tbh as that’s assuming guilt on the player.
Some clarity here would be lovely.

What he said was that if it's about bonuses or multiple accounts he can tell the player, but since this is more about fraud or crime then he can't.

They already are assuming the player is guilty or they would have paid.

 

[Playford7]

What he said was that if it's about bonuses or multiple accounts he can tell the player, but since this is more about fraud or crime then he can't.

They already are assuming the player is guilty or they would have paid.

Hey sara, hows you?. Surerly tho some clarity would be nice, doesn’t have to be in great detail, but some idea rather than radio silence is more beneficial to us all?.

 

[dionysus]

Hey sara, hows you?. Surerly tho some clarity would be nice, doesn’t have to be in great detail, but some idea rather than radio silence is more beneficial to us all?.

well, if he were to file a PAB im fairly certain maxd would post a statement of some sort

 

[Tirilej]

Hey sara, hows you?. Surerly tho some clarity would be nice, doesn’t have to be in great detail, but some idea rather than radio silence is more beneficial to us all?.

This whole thread is about clarity, and a guy who rather lose 40k then let anyone but the casino see what they have on him.
Clarity is great though so I hope he will give in and PAB

 

[bebo67]

Him saying that he wasn't looking for money back, but was just warning everyone, says everything. Even the richest of the rich, want retribution if they feel they have been done wrong.

 

[bebo67]

This whole thread is about clarity, and a guy who rather lose 40k then let anyone but the casino see what they have on him.
Clarity is great though so I hope he will give in and PAB

Meh. There is no story here. I'm moving on. Hahahaha!