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Evolution Live Roulette - stay away- huge scam

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by Kopfkino, Nov 28, 2015.

    Nov 28, 2015
  1. Kopfkino

    Kopfkino Banned User - Angry troll - multi-accounts

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    warning !

    I want to warn everybody not to play Evolution Live Roulette
    from Riga and Malta.

    I have played hundreds of times, they activate from time to time
    a magnet or use air ball and let the ball land on the number what they
    need to rip you off.

    It based on time ( Rushhour ) and day (especially weekends).
    sometime they let you win because they
    know you will come back and then they take all your money.
    whatever you bet the outcome will not be in your favor.

    so stay away from Riga, London, Deutsches and VIP (Evolution)

    this is a huge scam its fraudulent and criminal in my
    opinion.
     
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  2. Nov 28, 2015
  3. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

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    That's a a pretty big accusation you've made. I'm confident that Evolution provide fair gaming as they are both licensed and regularly verified by independent testing companies.

    Also, they have won many awards including 'Game Of The Year' at EGR recently.
     
  4. Nov 29, 2015
  5. Kopfkino

    Kopfkino Banned User - Angry troll - multi-accounts

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    and that`s the sad part

    governments and online casino have a - carnival license-

    i know what i´m talking about. i would not say this without experience
    i don´t wanted to believe some month ago but now i´m sure.

    example: at Verajohn Casino you find some automatic Roulette from
    Evolution.

    that´s exactly the same what you will find at the Live Dealer
    the only "Live" in here is that the girls throw in the ball

    its not random, i´m absolutely sure

    from time to time i have also played some Casino Holdem
    and there is a little bit the same. They let players win some
    rounds and then they change the cards and Bam runner runner
    for the Dealer. who knows that a shuffle deck will bring the
    picture cards for the dealer

    some very strange things happen every day with Evolution

    bye
     
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  6. Nov 29, 2015
  7. Cleveland

    Cleveland Meister Member

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    Not calling you a liar but I would be more incline to believe you if you offered more proof beyond the information given above! :eek2:
     
  8. Nov 29, 2015
  9. syntynyt

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    play netent roulette if you feel that live one is a scam. play on columns for a faster test and see how the ;genuine; randomness most of the time gives a number of unselected column. and loves to give no. 0 a lot, when you don;t put on it. blackjack too, compared to liveplay, in software every Ace in dealers hand is the preview of a blackjack. stick to live blackjack, there is no and cant be any cheating, just dont play alone against house for a better notion of random.
     
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  10. Nov 29, 2015
  11. PaaskeDKnowUK

    PaaskeDKnowUK Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

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    Look forward to have ur account banned closed shortly. You should read above what it says before posting as you did.

    Tell me why would they want to cheat you or other players when they earn big bucks every single day anyway no matter what numbers comes out? Every time they have to pay out on a big winner they get lots income from other losing players.
     
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  12. Nov 29, 2015
  13. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Yes, similar to the above post: with live-streamed Roulette they can have literally 100's of players betting on just one wheel at the same time. Even if it were only a dozen or so players, chances are all numbers are covered... so how do they pick which player to rip-off? :confused:

    No matter where, when or how players place their bets on Roulette, the house WILL make it's 2.27% of every single bet in the long run - it's like a 24/7 money printing machine for them!
    Why on earth would they risk having that machine taken away from them just to try to make a few extra %? They would be insane.
    It's not rigging - it's called luck.

    KK
     
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  14. Nov 29, 2015
  15. Kopfkino

    Kopfkino Banned User - Angry troll - multi-accounts

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    i have played the whole year 2015 and if you play a lot you get a feeling. often i sat alone
    at the french roulette vip.
    its hard to prove that´s the reason a online casino tell you everytime everything is "normal random"
    but its not. they activate from time to time an magnet i guess and the ball is running straight through
    the bowl.
    here is a vid what shows how it works. its real.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    i know a lot user here work for casino or are affilliates and they don´t like to read what i´m talking
    about. but you have to know i hate scam. i hate it

    the best decision for me is to stop to play online .

    bye
     
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  16. Nov 29, 2015
  17. hedgehok

    hedgehok Senior Member mm3

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    That's the problem. Playing a lot = losing a lot, you can be lucky short-term but in the long-run you will lose. To proof cheating you need to analyze 100,000's of spins to be certain and I doubt that you did that.

    That is a great idea indeed.

    It's ~2.7% with single-zero (French Roulette)
     
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  18. Nov 29, 2015
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Ooops - silly typo!
    Yes, I meant to say 2.7027%

    KK
     
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  21. Kopfkino

    Kopfkino Banned User - Angry troll - multi-accounts

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    Sunday afternoon hundreds of players online..
    watch this i just joined to have a look and thats what i´m talking about.
    so avoid Casino Holdem from Evolution as well if you don´t want to lose your money.

    they deal double Ace, everybody bets now and runner runner. the bonus bet
    of some highroller is still a lost. only in this hand they have won 100k for sure !!
    enough to pay back a little to the players ~ 10-20k and still profit in their pocket.

    no random here, the shuffle machine knows the value of every card.
    Evolution Live Roulette - stay away- huge scam: casino holdem.JPG,Nov 29, 2015

    and if you don´t believe me go and watch EZUGI from Costa Rica . they
    shuffle their cards right before your eyes ! thats the difference to Riga.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    my losses i remember:
    July 2014: 1900 € London Roulette ( Kroon Casino)
    then i avoided it a long time , this year i returned
    July 2015: 2000 € French VIP ( Verajohn)
    Sep 2015: 2600 € Roulette (verajohn)
    Nov 2015: 800 € French +normal (verajohn)

    all at Evolution enough is enough.

    bye
     
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  22. Nov 29, 2015
  23. dunover

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    Watch a lot of James Bond do you??
     
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  24. Nov 29, 2015
  25. gagamel

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    How what worked. I can`t see anything. Maybe it would be better for you to stop playing Roulette online. Play at your local "Spielbank" instead.

    But I`m sure after some losses you will tell us they are rigged, or not eh?
     
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  26. Nov 29, 2015
  27. Biti

    Biti Full Member webmeister

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    True. It's a very big accusation and with a complete lack of reasonable arguments. But, also EGR does not say anything to me. If Aff Utd an 888 for examplecan win an award, it points out this election is completely BS. Same as Malta and Latvia are not countries that do care too much about fairness of games...

    But, point in the OP is ridiculous, Typical reaction after some bad run s.
     
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  28. Nov 29, 2015
  29. neilw

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    Cold hard evidence is what you need to provide to substantiate your claims if you want to be treated seriously. Having a feeling isn't evidence, losing at a casino playing roulette isn't evidence.

    Show me how the shuffling machine has been manipulated to sort the cards in a predetermined way.
    Give me a copy of the software that controls the machine and show me the lines of code that are to blame.
    Show me a photo or video of the magnet and how that is used to influence the ball into the number they want.
    Show me the air gun and how that works.

    Until you can provide all of that I don't think I'll be stopping playing at Evolution or any other Live Casinos.

    If you don't like losing then don't play, that's one of the outcomes when you gamble.
     
  30. Nov 29, 2015
  31. PaaskeDKnowUK

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    YES thats proves everything. Clearly they cheat as cards are not random everything is
    a set script. Wish I had known that years ago. Thanks for that screenshot I really believe in that now. No More poker or blackjack or Roulette. I will stick to slots.
     
  32. Nov 30, 2015
  33. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

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    I watched Evolution live roulette for a few hours today, seemed normal to me. The only thing they are guilty of is keeping the casino clean!

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  34. Nov 30, 2015
  35. dunover

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    NO NICOLA! That is NOT a hoover the guy's got, but a selfie stick with a large speaker magnet fixed! He has clearly been instructed to stop the ball on a certain number, which is why miss blue seems so bored - no surprise.:eek2:

    The second photo he applies a paste to a certain number, ensuring the ball becomes trapped there. This only occurs when players spot the magnet trick, so scream for a ceramic non-magnetic ball to be used instead.

    Please stop trying to pull the wool over our eyes Nicola - we all really know what goes on in random games when we lose.
     
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  36. Nov 30, 2015
  37. sigothx1

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    You can spot the gambling addict quickly when they knock software scream rigged and yet log into it everyday.
     
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  38. Dec 3, 2015
  39. prop82

    prop82 Experienced Member

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    He should have seen, what happend on the danish table at unibet today....played few rounds, got numbers as if i had cards, but the dealer did not give cards. Just the numbers where displayed while the dealer did nothing.
    Think some technical issues but that was really strange....maybe unibet sam knows what happend there?
    Just lost 5 € so i wont complain:D
     

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