Are you a Highroller? BEWARE of CASUMO

@CasumoLouis you've been on a couple of times since I posted my question. You obviously can't answer account specific questions but can you tell me which part of the gdpr allows you to process someone's, who isn't your customer, personal details without explicit consent from that data subject? Clearly it is what you do from the posts above.
 
hmmm

Hi Colin,
At Casumo, we need to verify that you are who you say you are, that you are using payment methods that belong to you and that the money you are using to gamble is coming from legal sources.

We will do these checks at various stages depending on your gameplay, deposit levels or other factors and will contact you for the documentation we may need as quickly as we are able when a trigger arises on your account.

We want to make you aware of all types of documentation and information we may request as sometimes, in order to meet our legal obligations we may need to ensure we have checked certain information (if we have not done so already) prior to permitting a withdrawal. We therefore want to let you know that these may be requested and that you can proactively manage your account by providing this documentation to us at any time by contacting us via live chat or at hey@casumo.com and we’ll guide you from there.

yeah, I don't think so.
If you are going to ask for documents you are supposed to do so as early in the customer journey as possible, and if not, then set out what I will be required to send to you.
 
hmmm

Hi Colin,

At Casumo, we need to verify that you are who you say you are, that you are using payment methods that belong to you and that the money you are using to gamble is coming from legal sources.

We will do these checks at various stages depending on your gameplay, deposit levels or other factors and will contact you for the documentation we may need as quickly as we are able when a trigger arises on your account.

We want to make you aware of all types of documentation and information we may request as sometimes, in order to meet our legal obligations we may need to ensure we have checked certain information (if we have not done so already) prior to permitting a withdrawal. We therefore want to let you know that these may be requested and that you can proactively manage your account by providing this documentation to us at any time by contacting us via live chat or at hey@casumo.com and we’ll guide you from there.

yeah, I don't think so.
If you are going to ask for documents you are supposed to do so as early in the customer journey as possible, and if not, then set out what I will be required to send to you.
Did CasumoLouse answer you in a PM?
 
It's surely time to close your account and move on I'm afraid . They are not going to budge and there is no way you can give them what they are asking for . Other peoples Ids and letters - that's not happening .
I really don't care for my account... but I think this case is very important for us as a community.
It perfectly shows the absurd world the online casinoes (Casumo) are living in.

It is totally fine that they don't want my business, but grow some balls and tell me instead of doing shit like this @CasumoLouis.

Casumo avoids all and every important questions I have and they are a nightmare to communicate with.

Therefore I have decided to do a PAB. (thank you for that service btw).
I have both time and money and I'll go to the next step if needed.
 
I really don't care for my account... but I think this case is very important for us as a community.
It perfectly shows the absurd world the online casinoes (Casumo) are living in.

It is totally fine that they don't want my business, but grow some balls and tell me instead of doing shit like this @CasumoLouis.

Casumo avoids all and every important questions I have and they are a nightmare to communicate with.

Therefore I have decided to do a PAB. (thank you for that service btw).
I have both cash and money and I'll go to the next step if needed.

Ok you know once you've put your PAB in you can no.longer comment on this thread or any thread about this matter until the PAB is finalised one way or the other
 
The crazy thing is that real money launders wouldnt have a casino account that they play big gambling sessions on day in day out for many years, using the same deposit and withdrawal method. Not a single one, ever would operate like that!
DING DING DING>We have a winner!!..>So Very True. You nailed it. Up to this point I am blown away by this thread.
 
Online casinos are, sadly, becoming unusable. It's all about the withdrawal. There's always this tension between the player and the casino when it comes to withdrawing. This as been going on for a long time. Now that more regulations are involved, the casinos can hide behind those regulations. Casinos, just pay us without making it complicated.
 
Short update: Casumo added a 80% deposit bonus to my account today. Probably some standard mass bonus, but still...

My cashback which should have arived today in the morning has not come. That has been manually stopped because it comes each monday like clockwork.

Still no replies to my emails sent on friday.

They told me they stopped with cashback. You still have it?
 
Casumo is good until they no longer serve you.

I have problems with games and have been a "highroller". Lost about $ 230000 to them.

I have shown signs of gambling addiction several times. But nothing was done because they should take everything you have first. Have always liked Casumo. But everything got worse ...

A month ago I emailed my VIP manager and asked for all chat history, deposits. Nothing more than that.


Then I would log in to casumo. NOW IT HAS BLOCKED ME PERMANENT. FOR I WANT TO HAVE DATA AND CHANGED TONS IN THE MAIL.

BUT THEY COULDN'T BLOCK ME WHEN I PUT 30 K ON A MONTH


that month they wanted proof of the money.

I gave a 2 year declaration with 0 earned and showed a loan agreement of 80k

do you take or, they approved quickly so I could lose more money. Then when you are not playing, they block you like nothing
 
Update: I am cancelling the PAB.

I'm pulling out the "big guns" straight away. I have looked over everything with my lawyer and this case will probably turn out much bigger.
I can not promise to keep you updated all the time, because they adviced me to keep silent for a while.

PS! Thank you for offering the PAB-service, Casinomeister.

Good luck me :D
 
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good luck Luckylobo in your endeavours .


@CasumoLouis just out of curiosity , tho I know you are here as a rep but if a friend of yours asks for your picture with your ID and some other docs for his casino's SOW would you personally give that to your friend ?
 
good luck Luckylobo in your endeavours .


@CasumoLouis just out of curiosity , tho I know you are here as a rep but if a friend of yours asks for your picture with your ID and some other docs for his casino's SOW would you personally give that to your friend ?

I'm not Louis :D but I was talking about this with a friend yesterday, how absurd all of this is. He said if it was just to prove where I got the money from he probably wouldn't just want to send out his ID to me to give to a 3rd party but if it was to get access to a big withdrawal he would try and help me out. But that's a friend I've known for years, not someone I sold something to on Ebay or the likes. He agreed with that and he would never give his out his ID to a complete stranger.

Good luck @Luckylobo
 
I'm not Louis :D but I was talking about this with a friend yesterday, how absurd all of this is. He said if it was just to prove where I got the money from he probably wouldn't just want to send out his ID to me to give to a 3rd party but if it was to get access to a big withdrawal he would try and help me out. But that's a friend I've known for years, not someone I sold something to on Ebay or the likes. He agreed with that and he would never give his out his ID to a complete stranger.

Good luck @Luckylobo

Exactly, If it was a friend or family member I might be able to persuade them to let me send their ID, but a stranger, not a chance. Plus, thats assuming they have ID. One of my daughters doesn't have a passport or driving license and she sent 2 x £500 transfers to me during August (plus smaller ones). She also doesn't have bills as the gas and electric were on key meters when she moved in and hasn't bothered changing them. How exactly could I do what is being requested in that situation? @CasumoLouis I know you aren't answering but I really think you should comment on this. You won't be getting another penny from me until I know I won't be getting asked for this type of thing, and how you aren't breaching the GDPR by doing so?
 
I know you aren't answering but I really think you should comment on this. You won't be getting another penny from me until I know I won't be getting asked for this type of thing, and how you aren't breaching the GDPR by doing so?

It's answered already, they follow strick regulations set by license providers and EU laws and directives.. It would be great outcome from any casino (quite many hear have been questioned about SOW processes when someone have started thread here) just in general without giving any exact information about their practices, would just explain and show what parts of these AML regulations in EU level and as well regulators who have provided their guidelines what to follow (without exact step by step procedures, that's why we see very interesting practices in place), for sure trying to explain why something very extended (like 3rd party id from some transfer to players bank account, just to name one) checks need to be done and point which part and which from these many regulations is reason to different actions casino have decided to take.

We have very many exact similar comments about retulations, legislations, EU money launderin directives etc... These are all public documents, i've been reading all them applicable for casino operators and really don't agree for some demands what we have seen. Opening it step by step would be very welcome and for sure would stop any arguing in this topic if there would be one casino clearly openly point where they decisions are based. Now we only have this same jargon about these mystical legislations and directives which are forcing casinos request 3rd party ID:s etc... Would be honestly very interesting to understand what is making certain transaction to be such a high risk categorized that instead of reporting suspicious transaction to authorities like probably should be done in case of suspicious transactions which is triggering heavy AML investigations (what asking 3rd party id for sure can be counted) is handled like this by asking these documents and also tipping suspected person that he/she is suspected which probably is not right to do, tipping suspect person about investigations seems to be not right thing to do when reading these AML guide lines from different sources.

Would really take my hat off if any casino would open what exact part where every document request is based, then it would be much easier to understand or judge if that certain part of directive or what so ever, actually is meant to be that extended in some scenario. These requests and assessments probably should be risk based, many casinos have already stated that they do these checks in certain life time threshold which is not required, like in this topic OP is under MGA license and they in many many places are referring everything to be risk based and only borderline is made for basic KYC request to be completed and even that can be counted in 180 days rolling period instead of life time.

Hope we one day can see and even more hopefully, understand where these mystical magic laws and legislations are coming from as we can't find them in AML directives, no any guide lines from gaming regulators etc... For sure processes are passing audits like mentioned in this topic because these are so extrem extended, for casinos point of view would be more interested to study and challenge these auditors that what really must be done and when to learn, instead of only making own judgements about these regulations and directives which quite clearly seem to be bit something else what these are meant to be.

Already from this forum we have seen so many threads about these extended SOW checks, laws and regulations really are not telling that only in CM here are so many suspicious persons who need to be investigated. Would also be interesting to know, how many players have been reported to by MLRO doing SAR to authorities, if somebody is not cooperating with decent requests when they have some suspicious activity in their account, for sure that should be reported or is it ok to let somebody keep doing illegal activities as long they don't do it with us? Seeing crime but not reporting it could maybe also counted as failing in AML monitoring (like also tipping about suspect that he/she is under investigation). These just disappear somewhere when suspected players is not cooperating, which is strongly suggesting that casinos don't believe themselves that their requests are made in right places where real suspicions are standing, starting from tipping suspect who's not cooperating and then not reporting suspect to authorities.

Would be great to have any casino just open to which legislations they very extended demands, let's say for single transaction from private person like in this thread are based. Is OP somehow counted as high risk, he's coming from very low risk country, using very low risk payment methods, his stats suggested that his deposits are wagered, loop is closed when ever it's requested (exceptionally in this thread casino asked to withdraw to other method). Can by drinks for any legal team who would like to educate us as we here in this forum seem not to be educated enough to understand same lawas same way even been trying many years and license providers haven't demand certain activities spoken in this thread and in others but have advised for exact question with all information what is necessary and what is not. Casino legal teams have some great wisdom to read these laws what many other who are working in finances, money laundering etc... don't. Probably that's why they wanna keep that secrect and not willing to educate others how to comply, there shouldn't be secrets as these are all public documents or actually it seems there is as nobody can't explain these actions.
 
And say you are the person handing over your ID and bank statement to your friend, then you suffer a fraud on your bank account. You tell the bank about handing over your ID and, poof, they will not reimburse you as they would say you have been negligent in compromising your ID.

To this could add as well, that if person like OP here is suspect of being breach of AML legislation because of suspicious transaction from 3rd party has been made, how in earth they then can decide that everything is ok after that "criminal" send his ID and explanation that it wasn't drug money.

Usually if you are suspect of illegal activities, only your word is not proof enough but officers who are investigating these are demanding some actual proof, other than only kind promise that we don't do anything bad. Or maybe days of trust are back when you are suspected about criminal activities and all investigations are finished once you just state that you didn't do it and provide passport picture of your partner in crime.
 

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