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Player Losses £34,000 on Live Roulette but The Ball Acts Very Strange!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by worldlad, Jan 31, 2017.

    Jan 31, 2017
  1. worldlad

    worldlad Crybaby McCryface

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    I found this video on YouTube pretty odd, this guy is making some pretty high stakes on NETENT live roulette he eventually losses everything £34,000.

    But as per the many YouTube comments on the video the ball starts acting very strangely.


    Checkout 2:20 or 4:00
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    Why don't they have cameras underneath the table to help with players fears?

    Let me know what you think? Either way it's a fear and many of us have been here before I'm sure.
     
  2. Jan 31, 2017
  3. RichyJ75

    RichyJ75 Silly Member PABnonaccred

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    I'm not a roulette player, but have watched it quite a few times. I agree, the ball does sit rather jerkily in the number slots - normally I see it jump out a few times before it settles. Just seems to settle rather quickly on those numbers!

    However, I am sure they are audited and equipment checked, especially being such a big provider?

    Just my thoughts!
     
  4. Jan 31, 2017
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Is it even a 'live' wheel? It looks rather pseudo as if the dealer is superimposed on it, check out her series of arm actions as she throws the ball in. But to hit 4 times an uncovered number is not likely but it can happen - I can see why people think it's sniffy though.
     
  6. Jan 31, 2017
  7. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    This is just the tip of live games online said many times now, watching that was just brutal ive been playing for years & never seen any roulette spin like what happened there & did it again , im thinking the same as dunover that the wheel is already set up such a way , this would sit pretty nicely with other things like , dropped connection , black out at higher stakes , always before the ball lands . get the tinfoil hat out , no different from RNG roulette which is a slot disguised as roulette to many times certain things happen.
     
  8. Jan 31, 2017
  9. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    Dont know anything about roulette but 2:20 looks really messed up and abnormal
     
  10. Jan 31, 2017
  11. Tropicana50

    Tropicana50 Senior Member

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    I'm not usually one to join the tinfoil hat brigade but this looks very suspect. The balls moves against physics on several spins to land on the handful of spots without chips placed. Glad I never play at these live places. This is an upsetting video to watch. £34,000 in minutes on what appears to be a jacked roulette..

    - T
     
  12. Jan 31, 2017
  13. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Roulette is the one game all live casinos want players to play. As its a sure fire way to always come out on top. The house edge takes care of that. And sure anything could happen or be fixed with an online environment but would NetEnt (who seem to be the provider for this game) put everything at risk to deliver bent live games ? I would say it would be insane to even consider it. Especially with Roulette as the casino is guaranteed to come out on top over time. 34k though in one session no wonder the player was pissed off!
     
  14. Feb 1, 2017
  15. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

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    You win some, you lose some. This same player won similar amounts (if not more) playing the same roulette game during other sessions. Was it rigged then too?
     
  16. Feb 1, 2017
  17. chiya

    chiya Experienced Member PABnononaccred

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    Think about it like this: if you were as big as NetEnt, and rigged your games, no one would question it or be any wiser because you're a well known game provider. However if NetEnt did indeed rig their games would they really do so in an "obvious" way? Of course not. If they rigged games they'd make damn sure no one knows.

    I don't play roulette so I can't say anything about the video but Paul (rocknrolla) plays it ALOT so tbh I'd think he would've noticed if it was actually rigged. Well, he was drunk during this recording session but maybe afterwards ..

    There has been some odd happenings around Paul though before as well. Two times now he's made a huge bet to roulette, and just as the game round would start he'd mysteriously get disconnected as if he had no internet. Yet refreshing the game would get him back in game immediately but he would, of course, not win because the bet didn't register. He's been in contact with NetEnt about this who've basically told him to bugger off because his bet wasn't registered which means he didn't participate in the round so it doesn't matter what the end result would've been if he had played.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2017
  19. liberec

    liberec Full Member

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    bait&hook strategy. the casino let you win sometimes because they know you get addicted and then finally they take all your money.:cool:
    ( the same strategy with slots )

    we are living in a fake world. lies are truth and truth are lies ( 1984 George Orwell)
     
  20. Feb 1, 2017
  21. Steviedoo

    Steviedoo Senior Member

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    His initial bet was 300$... he cashed out then reversed some of it and then. won again. He cashed out twice I think up to 20k and left 1200$ ......of which he then got up to 34 k.....and then he blew it....he was going for a 100k....he says he would have never bet so much for the fact that there was 20k already being processed..and that his dream was to get to 100k cashout.

    I don't think the wheel is rigged...I've been to the land casinos where that ball does some really fancy footwork before landing on a number.....even like the ball jumping the way it does at the 2 20 mark. Nothing extraordinary.
     
  22. Feb 1, 2017
  23. conker

    conker Super Moderator CAG MM webmeister

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    I totally agree, I think the OP used to write headlines for the Daily Mail, as when you uncover the true story this streamer was betting stupid amounts to try and show off to his followers. I would put my house on the fact it is not rigged, as a multi-million dollar company like NetEnt would have nothing to gain from shaving a bit of money off players with rigged games.

    I wonder if this streamer has paid royalties to the company who made the film Rock'n'rolla? Since he is using all the graphics from the film in his opening credits. My guess is probably not...
     
  24. Feb 1, 2017
  25. Pulver

    Pulver Senior Member PABaccred webmeister

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    I can agree on the fact that it does look a bit strange, but as others have commented, I have seen this guy win huge amounts on the roulette before, was it rigged then? I think not..

    To me it looks like the framerate on the video feed from the casino is not the best, could that have contributed to it looking a bit weird?
     
  26. Feb 1, 2017
  27. k6kaysix

    k6kaysix Newbie member

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    I bet his own balls felt a bit strange after that session :D
     
  28. Feb 2, 2017
  29. michielm1

    michielm1 Senior Member mm1

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    If you win, you start thinking about lucky underwear (which you obviously cant wash ever again)
    If you lose, you know shit is rigged and you are being conned out of your hard earned cash.
     
  30. Feb 2, 2017
  31. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    I find his gambling appalling.
    I would gladly take his bankroll and spend it on the needy.
    Sorry to say so but it is just ridiculous.

    Like my budget is around 200-300 Euro a month to make a comparison with him.

    If you have so much money, why waste it like that.

    I have this dream that whenever I would win the lotto or win a significant amount of money, my goal will be to make as many people happy as I can by helping them out in any way I can.

    How cool would it be to feel Santa Claus for a day. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  32. Feb 2, 2017
  33. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    (Said in a squeaky voice)

    Spent a fair whack on Roulette myself over the years but my balls never seem to drop
     
  34. Feb 2, 2017
  35. rocknrollax

    rocknrollax Full Member PABaccred

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    It does look appalling but you could also say from a £300 deposit and 20k already withdrawn and processed that it doesnt look as bad? I would never dream of depositing anything near this amount to play casino games with!

    I have also donated near five figures to my huntingdons charity over the last two years so I do give a percentage of my winnings and wages to good causes!
     
  36. Feb 2, 2017
  37. SlotGrinder

    SlotGrinder Senior Member

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    Seriously I think people have a cheek telling you what you should do with your own money... keep it up man , I enjoy your streams

    Also your streams always go somewhere , big money or busto ! which is fun to watch and you obviously get a buzz from that too
     
  38. Feb 2, 2017
  39. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    That is great and I have to applaud you for that.
    As I do a lot for charity here in Ireland too, I just love to help people in many ways. :)

    I have watched you a few times and I just felt I could not comprehend the stakes you are playing.
    I am sure you are genuine and as you can see in other threads on this forum I always defended the streamers by saying I enjoy watching them.
    But I rather watch people that play in my own bet range of €1.00-€5.00 max a spin depending on the balance.
    So that is maybe why I feel your stakes are so excessive but hey if you can afford it who am I to say they are way too high.

    I might have misjudged you and I am man enough to apologise for that mate!
    Sorry for that!

    Maybe if I had watched you longer or more often I would have gotten a better impression of you as a person.

    I tried the streaming thingy myself very shortly but I dropped it very quickly as I just cannot enjoy my gambling session because you always have to interact with your viewers and keep them happy too.
    In that perspective I already respect streamers as I rather log in, deposit, have a coffee and later on a glass of wine or beer and a smoke.
    Fully enjoying my session in peace! :p

    Nevertheless, the things one can do with 34k tho.. ^^



    Cheers,

    Mark.
     

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