Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

go play some uk based fixed odds betting terminals

then say fixed

a number not coming in for 380 spins, check
11 losing thirds in a row?check
8 out of 16 losing spins covering 34 numbers out of 38, check

Sounds an awful lot like my exact experiences with Evolution's roulette.

Only last week, I covered all of both tier and orphelins EXCEPT the number 5 for three spins in a row. All three times, it fell on 5.

Here's a few more strange outcomes:

10 bets in a row on 2nd 12 + 3rd 12... all fell on 1st 12. For good measure, I then did two more rounds with 2nd 12 + 3rd 12 + 6-12... those two rounds fell on 3 and 5.

I normally never bet on colours, but I decided to give them a go. I steadily bet on black for exactly twenty times in a row before I gave up. It went on to form a 31-spin red streak.

Bet on ALL numbers except 30 11 36 13 27 6 34 17 for four spins, waited for one spin, then another four spins.
Every spin that I played landed on one of those numbers. The one spin I skipped, the ball landed nowhere near.

I could go on and on. Individually, you can chalk these up to bad luck. But this is the sort of thing that happens constantly. Be very careful with this company.
 
For the record, I PM'd the Unibet contact about this. Not got a reply yet.
Is there a specific Evolution representative though?

Out of interest, what do you expect the Unibet rep to do?

Evolution don't have a rep on the forum, if they did, what would you ask them?
 
Out of interest, what do you expect the Unibet rep to do?

Evolution don't have a rep on the forum, if they did, what would you ask them?

"Why are the games random in someone elses favor?"

What people seems to forget is that apart from the casino specific tables there are most likely hundreds of players at any given time on most of the Evolution tables. Even if you lose, you can be sure that your losses doesn't cover half of the tables total losses from that spin, even if you do play max bet every spin.
 
Risking lively hood

I very much doubt they would risk loosing certain machines just to get money out of people
When I can imagine they make more than enough money from all there players
Some win some lose that's the nature of random
 
Out of interest, what do you expect the Unibet rep to do?

Evolution don't have a rep on the forum, if they did, what would you ask them?

I'm not sure what to expect. Acknowledgement would be a start.
That it's not just me thinking these results are weird, especially at the rate at which they occur.
 
I'm not sure what to expect. Acknowledgement would be a start.
That it's not just me thinking these results are weird, especially at the rate at which they occur.

The thing is the results aren't weird. The results as you know are completely random. If you display the stats on any of the Evolution Roulette tables they will show you how the results are dispersed across the wheel. From a quick scan I've just done they all look to have the type of dispersion you'd expect to see over the last 500 spins.

Roulette has it's built in edge, there is no need for Evolution or any other supplier to fix these games.

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but need to see some strong evidence to support any claims. Bad beats while playing isn't evidence, that's gambling.
 
"Why are the games random in someone elses favor?"

What people seems to forget is that apart from the casino specific tables there are most likely hundreds of players at any given time on most of the Evolution tables. Even if you lose, you can be sure that your losses doesn't cover half of the tables total losses from that spin, even if you do play max bet every spin.

That's what I figured.
That's why I shrugged it off for months. But it came to a point where it just got absolutely ridiculous. The odds of certain events happening twenty times in a row exactly at the same and only time that I happen to place a bet on them... and this happening repeatedly... the odds are astronomical.

It's practically clockwork. I already know that if I, for example, put € 10 on 2nd12 and € 15 on 3rd12 that it will always fall on 1st12. If I'm really, really lucky, I manage one win out of ten rounds with those odds. It's absolutely consistent over the course of the ten months I've been playing.
 
I very much doubt they would risk loosing certain machines just to get money out of people
When I can imagine they make more than enough money from all there players
Some win some lose that's the nature of random

Since when is "more than enough" good enough for a company? By manipulating the results, they can earn twice as much.
And they can easily get away with it. So why not do it?
 
The thing is the results aren't weird. The results as you know are completely random. If you display the stats on any of the Evolution Roulette tables they will show you how the results are dispersed across the wheel. From a quick scan I've just done they all look to have the type of dispersion you'd expect to see over the last 500 spins.

Roulette has it's built in edge, there is no need for Evolution or any other supplier to fix these games.

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but need to see some strong evidence to support any claims. Bad beats while playing isn't evidence, that's gambling.

Well, from my end, that's the only evidence I can supply, I suppose.
The apparent fact that bad beats are the rule rather than the exception. And that it isn't just a phase. It's been like that for many months.

Oh, and one more interesting phenomenon that I hadn't mentioned yet!
They also are in the habit of rejecting winning bets right after the ball gets thrown. Every time, they blame connectivity issues on the user's end, but this only occurs when I would have won.

A good example of this, of a few months back:
I spent about an hour placing various bets, but with one constant: extra high bets on the zero zone. Bizarrely, not once did the ball come near zero or its neighbours while I played.

Then, after an hour and a bit, it begins.
Seven rounds in a row, it falls on 0, 26, 32 etc.
And EACH of these rounds, my bet gets rejected.

The three rounds after those, my bets all suddenly get accepted again. Of course, they all fall on losing numbers.

And THEN, it falls on the zero area five more times in a row. Each of these gets rejected again.
It's literally like a switch gets flipped.

Obviously furious, I demanded an explanation and Evolution's live support simply gave me the standard "connectivity issues" reply. My network monitor didn't show irregularities on my end during these spins.

Anyone else have experience with "convenient" connectivity issues that cost them all their biggest wins? Come to Evolution roulette if you're curious. :|
 
If indeed everything said in this thread is true and the roulette seems rigged to some people.

Then why would anyone play it for months on end if it is rigged. Surely if the results look fixed and its constant over months you would have quit playing it.

I really will never understand how people that think something is fixed waste their money and continue playing it.
 
If indeed everything said in this thread is true and the roulette seems rigged to some people.

Then why would anyone play it for months on end if it is rigged. Surely if the results look fixed and its constant over months you would have quit playing it.

I really will never understand how people that think something is fixed waste their money and continue playing it.

I persisted for a long time because I couldn't really believe that it might actually really be true.
But the insane bad beats kept coming and coming and coming.

So I took a three-week break and then came back.
Still the same shit.

I then started experimenting to see how rigged it was exactly.
For twenty rounds, I'd write down my bets without putting actual chips on the table. I got 13 out of 20 right.
For the next twenty rounds, I actually did put money on the table, but otherwise played according to the exact same system. This time, I only won 2 out of 20.

I also did a count of how many rounds I'd won with a bet on a combination of 2nd12 and 3rd12 (theoretically a 66 percent chance to win).
I had won 19 times out of 112.

So many stories. Far too many.
 
If indeed everything said in this thread is true and the roulette seems rigged to some people.

Then why would anyone play it for months on end if it is rigged. Surely if the results look fixed and its constant over months you would have quit playing it.

I really will never understand how people that think something is fixed waste their money and continue playing it.

They keep playing because they are sick, i.e. gambling is a disease and makes us do things we don't wanna do but (some of us) are powerless to do anything about it so we just do them.
 
They keep playing because they are sick, i.e. gambling is a disease and makes us do things we don't wanna do but (some of us) are powerless to do anything about it so we just do them.

I guess the basic rationale is that, after losing 10 times, they should be winning the next 10 times.

But... maybe my belief that Evolution surely weren't cheating, and that eventually some of the results would fall in my favour, was just as naive though. So I'm not judging (much). :bubbles:
 
Just having another go at Evolution's roulette right now.
Same crap as always.

Round after round, I cover 25 of the 37 numbers. Every time, it manages to fall on one of the other twelve.
Even if it lands on my winning area, the ball will simply sit there for nearly a full second, then jump out and start slowly ambling over to the opposite side of the wheel until it finds the nearest losing number, and abruptly come to a halt there.

It's like there's an invisible barrier around my winning numbers. When it reaches those areas, the ball literally screeches to a halt and starts backpedalling. Always to the first losing number it finds, so it constantly falls one spot next to my winners. It's insane.
 
This is... beyond ridiculous.

The very second I give up, they hit one glorious win after another. Bam, bam, bam, jackpot, jackpot, jackpot... No strange bounces or jumps whatsoever. The ball neatly drops into its pocket and stays there.

The moment I give in and - with trembling finger - hit repeat again, the ball suddenly starts making these wild leaps away from the winning numbers all over again. It will do absolutely anything to avoid landing on anything that constitutes a win for me.

And this is exactly what has been happening for ten months straight. Like I said, as if a switch gets flipped the second I start joining in the fun.

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Yeah, I'd better give up entirely and delete my account. I'm starting to build another typical Evolution roulette losing streak: the kind where I lose for fifty rounds in a row, while each round I theoretically stand a 50 - 80% chance of winning.
Either there is a god up there who enjoys toying with specific mortals down here, or these Maltese licenses really aren't worth shit.

It's one or the other: absolutely IMPOSSIBLE, ASTRONOMICAL amounts of bad luck... or a massive scam. Take your pick. I'm out of here.
 
Ok, so I've just blown € 160 on this money pit.

Now I'm just predicting the spins without placing any bets.

Got 4 out of 4 correct so far.

edit:
Predicted 16 spins now... 13 of them correctly.

*throws hands up*
What's going on here? I'm not crazy. I'm not making this up. This is happening.
I can only "win" with Evolution roulette for as long as I don't put my money on their table.

How completely batshit does one's bad luck have to be before somebody will acknowledge that it's flat-out suspicious?
 
Ok, so I've just blown € 160 on this money pit.

Now I'm just predicting the spins without placing any bets.

Got 4 out of 4 correct so far.

edit:
Predicted 16 spins now... 13 of them correctly.

*throws hands up*
What's going on here? I'm not crazy. I'm not making this up. This is happening.
I can only "win" with Evolution roulette for as long as I don't put my money on their table.

How completely batshit does one's bad luck have to be before somebody will acknowledge that it's flat-out suspicious?

Ok, I understand your frustrations but I honestly think that you would be better off not gambling. Re-read your posts and see just how this is affecting you. I wish you luck, my friend!
 
Ok, I understand your frustrations but I honestly think that you would be better off not gambling. Re-read your posts and see just how this is affecting you. I wish you luck, my friend!

I'm fine gambling. As a programmer, I understand the odds and the risks.
What happens at Evolution's tables... defies all that.

You have to agree this looks bizarre, am I right?

And yes, being cheated indeed would affect anyone. I'll take my money elsewhere.
 
I'm fine gambling. As a programmer, I understand the odds and the risks.
What happens at Evolution's tables... defies all that.

You have to agree this looks bizarre, am I right?

And yes, being cheated indeed would affect anyone. I'll take my money elsewhere.

It certainly does look bizarre and I can imagine how annoying it must feel.
 
For the record: their double-ball table is exactly the same.
Doesn't matter that there's two balls per spin. They will never land you a win. Maybe a tiny scrap if you absolutely carpet-bomb the table with chips, but forget about any profit otherwise.
 
Looking back at the first page of this topic, I can 100% empathise with the starter. And there are plenty more people who feel cheated by Evolution.
They can't keep hiding behind their Maltese license. Something has to give at some point.

There's not much more I can post here, except countless more examples of extremely suspicious "coincidences". Something stinks here.
I don't expect to get my money back (the world is not a fair place), but I would at least like that these people don't get away with it.



P.S. This is an example of a typical losing Evolution bet:
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Go ahead, repeat it two, three times. No wins.
 
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If you want to see something interesting... go to Evolution's live roulette table and place €5 on 2nd12 and €5 on 3rd12.

Then watch as, magically, absolutely every ball will fall on 1st12.

Only when you stop putting your chips on 2nd12 + 3rd12, will the ball land anywhere else.

Have fun! :thumbsup:


edit: I'm having a go at it myself. So far: 1 win out of 13 tries. The other twelve rounds all mysteriously fell on 1-12. The second I stop playing, the ball stops falling on 1-12. This is happening literally right now, as I type this (it fell on a 19).
 

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