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Live Roulette rigged at high stakes?

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by bradztheman, Aug 25, 2018.

    Aug 25, 2018
  1. bradztheman

    bradztheman Newbie member

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    I know there have been many many threads on live roulette and how many of us think it is rigged, or is rigged at times to make you win, and lose. I am still very skeptical about it and i have to say, in my opinion i think its genuine, but at certain times they rig the wheel.

    I usually bet big and small, i like to put big amounts on like £100 or £200 or £250 on a colour, particularly if i have the money there, strangely most of the time i dont win on big bets :(

    Im a member of paddypower, where i own a ppcashcardplus. It's a mastercard and i can make purchases in shops and also buy things online with it.

    On the PP main website theres a link where it shows all your gaming transactions, like most sites.

    A friend of mine remembered a time last year when i was at his house and i won a couple grand, we were trying to figure out the date to see how long it had been since i last saw him and when it was and i couldn't remember the exact amount but i said 'i'll just log into my account and have a look.' (Knowing it was around OCT/NOV time.)

    After logging in and looking at the statements of playing live roulette, i see where ive won a few bets, and got upto a nice amount, then ive done a £250 bet and a £150, and 2 seperate occasions and it's automatically made me lose! I'm not sure if paddypower are aware if this but this has shown up on my statement as 'CARD BLOCK UPDATE' and the amount and transaction next to it! And its taken it from my balance! This is all while playing live roulette!!

    We are getting closer and closer to seeing that live roulette really is rigged and you should stay away!! Ive seen hundreds of live spins on youtube where it just doesn't look right, i know the ball is capable of all kinds of acrobatics, but ive seen some really really strange ball moves and landings.

    Anyway ive uploaded 2 different statements for you to see...
     

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  2. Aug 26, 2018
  3. neilw

    neilw Moderator of Live Games forum CAG MM webmeister

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    What does "Card Block Update" mean? I assume you raised this with PP - what was their explanation?
     
  4. Aug 26, 2018
  5. bradztheman

    bradztheman Newbie member

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    They couldn't explain it. The live char rep basically said it was because large stakes were placed, but this hasn't happened in the past when large stakes have been placed as you can see in the attachment of another statement. I have uploaded a screen of the live chat convo too.
     

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  6. Aug 26, 2018
  7. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Senior Member

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    Paddy power don't run their live roulette... it's a 3rd party company. Someone like Evolution I imagine. They would have, and can not legally, have access to you wallet on paddypower. Let alone your card.

    Even if it were rigged, which I very much doubt, they wouldn't leave a trail of evidence like this would they.

    And also, as per all the other threads... if they rig AGAINST you, then they are of course rigging FOR other players if you are not the only one playing.
     
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  8. Aug 26, 2018
  9. bradztheman

    bradztheman Newbie member

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    Like i say, I believe that at times its rigged to make you win and also lose at times. Can i take this further? They have no explanation!
     
  10. Aug 26, 2018
  11. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Senior Member

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    I can pretty much guarantee you it's not rigged. Roulette pays back 97.2%. Why rig it? They know their edge off every bet.

    It doesn't make any sense.
     
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  12. Aug 26, 2018
  13. adamtheaddict

    adamtheaddict Senior Member

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    That doesnt sound to dissimilar to a theif robbing peoples hand bags and leaving an invoice in behind
     
  14. Aug 26, 2018
  15. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Senior Member

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    In terms of taking it further... you would need evidence of wrong doing. "I lose sometimes and win other times" is the exact outcome of gambling. Almost like it's random?
     
  16. Aug 26, 2018
  17. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    I had a feeling this would get debunked
     
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  18. Aug 26, 2018
  19. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Senior Member

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    Btw.. as for your original post. My guess is that for large bets Paddypower may block your card automatically and then unblock it automatically if the bets are within tolerance. It's just a guess.

    All your other bets are coming straight off your card right? So it stands to reason that for the bigger bets they have some extra security.

    Also you say they "automatically made you lose"... where is the proof other than a feeling? How many numbers did you cover on both bets? One? Twenty? Makes a big difference to the odds. But even if it's 24, you would still have a 1 in 3 chance of losing.
     
  20. Aug 26, 2018
  21. neilw

    neilw Moderator of Live Games forum CAG MM webmeister

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    Paddy Power use a Playtech Live Casino, the studio is in Riga, Latvia.
     
  22. Aug 26, 2018
  23. GoldenGhoul

    GoldenGhoul Experienced Member

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    Well then it's definitely Riga'd, isn't it? :D There you have it, now let's get those bastards ;)

    (Hope goatwack wasn't trying to go for this one ;))
     
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  24. Aug 26, 2018
  25. kelapa

    kelapa Experienced Member

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    Ask every bank in the world. Ask most politicians. Ask FIFA.
    Playing by the rules doesn't pay.
     
  26. Aug 26, 2018
  27. kelapa

    kelapa Experienced Member

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    That said, I'm not sure I understand what's going on here.
    Have PP blocked certain bets that would've gone on to be winners?
     

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