Dream Run at acredited casino Intertops

[dunover]

Hi HighIQ, with your big wins, I'm your greatest fan!!!
1) Can I know whether are you making profits throughout your online gambling sessions since you started?
Since you are winning over $100,000+ , are you also depositing that equal amount in total?

2) How much do you deposit usually per session? $300 - $500 ?

Really like to know if online gambling can really make you rich!

It can do if the casino pays you.

 

[maxd]

rep said to me contact payment team...i contact team sorry terms is 10k a week... if they show me to cooperate to get my money faster.. soon or later they will get it double back.

if a casino does this to a player who won big how is the player to feel good with this, it just making me uncomfortable...

Okay, from what I see you are getting paid -- or should be getting paid if they are as good as their word -- at twice the normal max payout rate. Is this wonderful? No, I wouldn't say so. Is it a crime against humanity and justification for all the belly-aching against them here in this thread? No, I wouldn't say so. Of course it would be wonderful if the casino smiled upon you and delivered the money in great heaping piles BUT they are under no obligation to do so. You know the Terms here, man up and stop crabbing about it.

Besides, seems to me they are giving you a pretty nice break by doubling the normal payment rate. I'd say enjoy the next ten weeks (or whatever)! I know I would.

On the other hand it seems that those payments may be getting stalled. If that is happening then there may well be a problem here, as in conduct unbecoming of an Accredited casino and worthy of a PAB.

So, if you are receiving those €10k payments then I'd say kick back and enjoy it. If you are not receiving your payments then you are welcome to file a PAB on this ASAP.

You can have as many PABs active at one time as necessary, as long as Max considers them genuine and not frivolous.

Strictly speaking that is not true. The PAB FAQ, section 1.2, says:

There are a few things that would keep us from accepting your PAB:
- you already have a PAB in progress. Generally speaking we will only accept one PAB per person at a time. ....

So one-at-a-time is usually the rule. That said we reserve the right to make exceptions and I'm doing exactly that here with this Intertops thing.

 

[dunover]

Okay, from what I see you are getting paid -- or should be getting paid if they are as good as their word -- at twice the normal max payout rate. Is this wonderful? No, I wouldn't say so. Is it a crime against humanity and justification for all the belly-aching against them here in this thread? No, I wouldn't say so. Of course it would be wonderful if the casino smiled upon you and delivered the money in great heaping piles BUT they are under no obligation to do so. You know the Terms here, man up and stop crabbing about it.

Besides, seems to me they are giving you a pretty nice break by doubling the normal payment rate. I'd say enjoy the next ten weeks (or whatever)! I know I would.

On the other hand it seems that those payments may be getting stalled. If that is happening then there may well be a problem here, as in conduct unbecoming of an Accredited casino and worthy of a PAB.

So, if you are receiving those €10k payments then I'd say kick back and enjoy it. If you are not receiving your payments then you are welcome to file a PAB on this ASAP.



Strictly speaking that is not true. The PAB FAQ, section 1.2, says:


So one-at-a-time is usually the rule. That said we reserve the right to make exceptions and I'm doing exactly that here with this Intertops thing.

Yes, I'm sorry for pre-empting that, but I did feel you might. To be fair he had a moan about the rate of payment which as you state was in the terms, but 99% of his complaint thereafter has been exclusively about stalling and non-payment, and I am not aware he's received a sorry dime yet. Plus of course the broken promises of calls/contact etc. This is why I and others are critical of their conduct toward HIGHIQ. As you say again, not becoming of accredited sites at all as w/d's are not supposed to be subject to undue delay and there should be a responsive and active rep whose absence is noted too.
TBH I'm glad you have done a PAB on his behalf here, as the thread is going round in circles and now we can just leave it and see what develops. Let's hope his patience pays off and he comes back to celebrate his first instalment..
If it was me in his position I wouldn't consider it resolved after receiving one instalment and a promise of more, but when the full amount has finally been paid.

 

[The Dude]

Just to chime in real quick - I'm rather surprised at some of the assumptions being made concerning rogue outfits, financial problems, behavior unbecoming of an accred casino, etc. Most of you ought to know that during the holidays most casinos are on skeleton crews. HIGHIQ posted his problem on Christmas Eve when most of the higher admins are away on holiday. What HIGHIQ was requesting was for the casino to make an exception of their payout terms and conditions. That is a decision that should be made only by the ownership and its legal advisors, not by some manager filling in for someone who's on holiday.

And most of you oldtimers should know that large wins at RTG casinos are normally reviewed by the software provider to ensure that the game is functioning as designed. That may cause a delay in the initial payments as well. Again, the holidays can cause a "perfect storm" which in this case, I believe it has.

I would expect a bit more patience and understanding from members for a casino that has been in business for over 15 years and is rarely complained about in these regions. A little more holiday cheer is in order me thinks.

 

[Mouche12]

Just to chime in real quick - I'm rather surprised at some of the assumptions being made concerning rogue outfits, financial problems, behavior unbecoming of an accred casino, etc. Most of you ought to know that during the holidays most casinos are on skeleton crews. HIGHIQ posted his problem on Christmas Eve when most of the higher admins are away on holiday. What HIGHIQ was requesting was for the casino to make an exception of their payout terms and conditions. That is a decision that should be made only by the ownership and its legal advisors, not by some manager filling in for someone who's on holiday.

And most of you oldtimers should know that large wins at RTG casinos are normally reviewed by the software provider to ensure that the game is functioning as designed. That may cause a delay in the initial payments as well. Again, the holidays can cause a "perfect storm" which in this case, I believe it has.

I would expect a bit more patience and understanding from members for a casino that has been in business for over 15 years and is rarely complained about in these regions. A little more holiday cheer is in order me thinks.

I appreciate your soothing comments Bryan. However, the link to the questionnaire which was sent to the OP is slightly worrying to say the least. But I am also sure that after 10+ days and still no payment of the first installment and CS' less than professional behaviour on the phone, Max will see to it that the OP will get paid in full (albeit in increments of 10K a week).

 

[Blathaon]

Just to chime in real quick - I'm rather surprised at some of the assumptions being made concerning rogue outfits, financial problems, behavior unbecoming of an accred casino, etc. Most of you ought to know that during the holidays most casinos are on skeleton crews. HIGHIQ posted his problem on Christmas Eve when most of the higher admins are away on holiday. What HIGHIQ was requesting was for the casino to make an exception of their payout terms and conditions. That is a decision that should be made only by the ownership and its legal advisors, not by some manager filling in for someone who's on holiday.

And most of you oldtimers should know that large wins at RTG casinos are normally reviewed by the software provider to ensure that the game is functioning as designed. That may cause a delay in the initial payments as well. Again, the holidays can cause a "perfect storm" which in this case, I believe it has.

I would expect a bit more patience and understanding from members for a casino that has been in business for over 15 years and is rarely complained about in these regions. A little more holiday cheer is in order me thinks.

Sure casinos might not be operating at 100% capacity during the holidays, that is no excuse for lack of proper communication with the player. Surely the management doesn't just let any random crew run the operations while they head off on holiday?

They must have some plan on how to deal with players while they are away, if the ones that are able to make decisions in instances like this are away. Then there should be a prepared response that will be given to the player that tells them when they can expect to be dealt with, so that the player doesn't have to worry.

And HIGHIQ wrote in one of his posts that he had been promised that payment would arrive the next day, then when it didn't and he called back he was informed that there are no news and that his account is now under review, so yes i do find that unacceptable of any casino, and especially an accredited one.

 

[homerbert]

Its friday friday friday
Any news luckiest NL player? Or you already start pab so cant post anything? Just keep us updated, as for me for example, its very interesting.

 

[HIGHIQ]

Its friday friday friday
Any news luckiest NL player? Or you already start pab so cant post anything? Just keep us updated, as for me for example, its very interesting.

sorry Homerbert.. i have no update.. all i know its still under review..

and i also dont know how long i need to wait before i can make a PAB.. and i also know RTG is now reviewing over more then a week on this case...

so that is pretty long..thats not all.. they are digging throug all my games at number of RTG casinos where i won money..

as i said i dont know how i can be this lucky.. i didnt play too long RTG i started after i saw a video from CM member Blathaon..

also i can say:
1) there is no bonus of any involved anymore after i won...
2) i played all the games within the limits and rules been offered
3) all the games i played it was designed and performed the way as it was described...

 

[KasinoKing]

and i also dont know how long i need to wait before i can make a PAB...

In his last post (#102), Max invited you to submit your PAB straight away. You don't need to wait at all.

KK

 

[maphesto]

That said we reserve the right to make exceptions and I'm doing exactly that here with this Intertops thing.

In his last post (#102), Max invited you to submit your PAB straight away. You don't need to wait at all.

KK

Exactly as KK said.

Don't post more about this issue now, it can really jeopardize your PAB.

 

[bigjohn]

Since the CDS was mentioned in this thread does anybody know if the CDS has any teeth?

In other words, if they conclude that the casino must pay is it binding?

I'm assuming it represents a higher power than a licensing jurisdiction who can recommend that a given casino do a certain thing but don't seem to be able to compel a casino to do anything.

 

[X-Raided]

*Bump*

Any updates? Or is this a full-fledged PAB now?

 

[HIGHIQ]

*Bump*

Any updates? Or is this a full-fledged PAB now?

i have filled in the pab,but no comfirmation yet from Maxd that he has received since the screenies uploading not working i have email him through gmail a seperate one with screenies..

i hope he comes soon with a update...

 

[Igor82]

Stop replying now mate- let him update the thread. There is too much money involved to risk your PAB and continuing presence on this is just going to lead you on to vent your frustration at one point or another. Unsubscribe from this thread and work thorugh email directly with Max.

 

[wobble33]

i have filled in the pab,but no comfirmation yet from Maxd that he has received since the screenies uploading not working i have email him through gmail a seperate one with screenies..

i hope he comes soon with a update...

screenies uploading working now HIGHIQ...

 

[homerbert]

Yeah, Highiq i also suggest you just wait Max reply.
But i am believe there is no any update, rep even not come here to explain at least something, i am believe i am not only one who wonder whats going on, and i am really curious about it... But absolutely no info.

 

[maxd]

I'm working on year-end reports while handling the PABs so things are moving a little slower than normal. That said I have received the PAB from HIGHIQ and have been in contact with the casino rep. As I understand it they will be issuing a formal statement soon so I'm basically on "hold" until that is published.

As the others have already said I too strongly encourage the OP to remain calm and sit on his hands if he has to in order to avoid putting his PAB and/or winnings in jeopardy. Silence and patience is what's required here until we have that statement from the casino. Anything else would be foolhardy at this point, IMO.

 

[maxd]

I've received confirmation from other casinos that a formal statement related to this issue is soon to be released. I'll comment further at that time.

 

[maxd]

Here's the opening to the official statement from RTG:



So, as some of you will probably have guessed, the OP used that exploit to dramatically increase his winnings. Contrary to his implied statement that only a modest portion of his winnings came from the defective game the casino has shown that fully 85% of the total winnings were derived via the game exploit. Furthermore the non-exploit winnings came after.

The OP repeated this procedure at another half-dozen casinos racking up well over €300,000 in total. I believe it is safe to conclude that he knew exactly what he was doing.

The casinos have all voided the player's winnings under the "software fault" clause of the Terms. I fully support these actions.

Furthermore for blatant abuse of the forums and the PAB system I am banning the OP from Casinomeister. All PABs, current and ongoing, are toast.

 

[homerbert]

Ok, but few questions...
Did user deposits will be refunded?
RTG stated game was not worked correctly, as i think their paytable of the game told that only 'battle bonus feature' played on the average bet. While ALL others features played on triggering bet.
Op follows paytable, and did not break any term, i am not sure again, and this is no my job make such decisions, but why to ban him without giving a chance to explain at least anything?
omfg, 300.000 euros... i did not see the number at begin.
Still very strange, max can you give OP a chance to explain to us what really happens? It is not 1k winnings, its 300k!
Here is a screenie few secs ago at JPC
So actually its not malfunction, slot worked as it should work, or i am do not understand something?

 

[maxd]

There's nothing to explain: the OP learned of a fault in the game and he ran around to a mess of casinos to exploit it. His play records show that it was no accident, totally deliberate on his part. Same play patterns were used to initiate and exploit the game malfunction.

The 300,000+ number is his accumulated "winnings" across the six or seven places (that I know of) where he pulled this stunt.

As to the deposits they were returned at the first few casinos I spoke to. Once it became clear what he'd been doing I no longer asked because it was of no interest to me.

As I've said many times in these forums I am not interesrted in "explanations" from people who lie to me and misrepresent the facts in order to abuse our PAB system. F*** them and the horse they rode in on.

 

[The Viking]

Wow 300.000+ thats a big sum, did op get paid from some of them or ? because it sounded like he was only intersting in getting paid from Intertops ? we didnt hear about the other ones

 

[homerbert]

i just called intertops again... and still say they have no news about it... and that my account is under review... however after they send me email with the following adress that i should make complain with them??? here is the link.. so i wonder any one got idea what this is? this link?

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its really not cool that this take this so long... what iam worried is now .. when it takes this so long there wont be any good news at end... this is just bullocks...

we are talking about an acredited casino here... and as i say there is much more to come .. once i get answer from this intertops i will reveal much more ...about other few rtg casino who is probaly playing under one hat... trying to come up not to pay at all...

this is ashame what its goin on here... many angry voices will be heard ...

btw OP did not lie about other casinos, he just waiting.
Max, please, as my one-per-life-ask , let HighIQ explain, i believe he is good guy...

 

[maxd]

No idea if some of them paid, certainly not the folks I spoke to. I suspect we never heard the full story here on the forums because it would have been clear that something was seriously amiss. I believe he picked one of the big fish and chased that.

Max, please, as my one-per-life-ask , let HighIQ explain, i believe he is good guy...

I appreciate your good thoughts about the guy but I have plently of reasons to stick to the course I've set upon, not the least of which is a string of very dodgy PABs that I've worked on for him. If he believes in his innocence then he can take it to Bryan and plead his case. He might want to start with an apology for the insults and corruption charges that he's been emailing me this afternoon.

 

[tinybettor]

Looks like it wasn't the dream run the OP had hoped for. He seemed like a genuine guy too even though I was a bit wary of how he managed to rack up such a streaky big win. Well now we know how.

 

[gagamel]

Another long time member who tried to abuse the forum for his own benefit. Really sad. We should write a book about these guys, "The destructive power of human greed". Maybe a bestseller.

 

[onkel]

I definitely don't approve of what OP did, but for €300k I imagine a lot of people are prepared to do way worse things than just abusing a forum!

 

[syntynyt]

wow
he really had high iq because you need some brain to discover exploits in the casino. just not big enough to run into 100K winnings, which for some is life changing money. he posted the screen with 80K winnings at twin spin at Guts saying he was paid fast. is that legit?

 

[maphesto]

When cpdnd31 noticed that the game still was defunct I sent ALL reps for accredited RTG casinos a PM about this info in the Orc/Elf thread. This was 21 dec. Many of them answered me in PM that RTG claimed it was OK!

Still, some casinos changed it to 1$/€ fixed bet and other didn't change it from before.

If the game is defunct, I think that reps for accredited RTG casinos should be aware of the issue. It's hard to believe that the error only occurs at Intertops. Why should it? The game is supposed to be the same at all RTG-casinos. The only thing that could differ, if I can guess, is that RTG operators can order different versions when it comes to House Edge. But I can't see how that could casuse these problems.

@cpdnd31

Even if I'm not satisfied with Intertops brands I wonder if you had contact with the right people at their support. Often we can see that usual customer support don't see the real issue. Have you contacted their rep here? I don't think you have, it shows dec 3 as the last time he was online.

The proper way, before you judge them, is to contact their rep here at the forum.

I think that this game is defunct and that they should remove it at all RTG casinos before this issue is even bigger.

EDIT: I sent a PM to the following members about this thread:

clubworld; iNetBet Promos; emily_hanson; iNetBet - Tom; Jackpot Capital; Sloto; Intertops;

Did I forget some reps?

Hi there,

The Orc vs Elf 3D game had an initial display error but all customer's funds/wins were paid out correctly.

This display error has since been fixed and all is functional again.

Let me take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy Holiday and A Prosperous 2014 to each and every one of you and yours!

Best regards,
Yasmeen
Casino Manager

OK, has this game always been $1 fixed bet? I could have sworn I played it when it first came out and the minimum bet was $.25.

I check 3 casinos and they are all $1 and no way to change the bet.

Very odd.

It's 0.25 at InetBet, where have you seen 1$ minimum?

EDIT: At Sloto'cash it's 0.25 as well

After this, iNetBet removed the machine from their casino.

Players on this forum understood that the game was defunct!

I can only guess, but it's not that hard...this slot machine allows the player to wait with the bonus round and continue their play. My guess is that the machine didn't always keep track on the different bet levels. When you had played at minimum bet and saved your feature, you raised your bet and, voila, you could use the feature on higher bet levels.

With a fixed betsize, this cannot happen.

Accredited RTG casinos were warned by players, but chose to believe their software supplier. Of course they did, but please, next time players tell you that a game is defunct, listen! Intertops didn't bother until they had to pay...

Btw, does anyone know if the game is still out there with the original configuration?

 

[syntynyt]

sorry don't know how to quote in same post.

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[Nifty29]

High IQ?

It doesn't appear so.

Another fraudster bites the dust. TBH, I had suspicions when he was posting about the "flaws" in the Battlestar game from MGS a while back. He's probably done this before with other games are other casinos.

I know where he went wrong, but I'm not going to state it publicly as I don't want to help him or anyone else next time.

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

Not slot related but this reminds me of when Betfair a couple of years ago had their poker Sit & Go's paying out tripple for 1st, double for 2nd and money back for every other position for a few hours. One player that I know of managed to win north of €100k, cashed out and got paid. Betfair threatened to drag him to court but as far as I know he kept his "winnings" to this day.

Stuff like this is what's makes it hard to side with any player before knowing the full story, no matter how belivable the story seems.

Oh and greedy people makes me sick.

 

[homerbert]

Accredited RTG casinos were warned by players, but chose to believe their software supplier. Of course they did, but please, next time players tell you that a game is defunct, listen! Intertops didn't bother until they had to pay...
Btw, does anyone know if the game is still out there with the original configuration?

i am also wonder, if the game was payid incorrectly, why not remove it? They was told. But they decide to keep things how it goes, and get thing like this.
Also,in paytable game says that you can change your bet any time, but only battle bonus playing in average bet.
Can someone explain me, how this can be called cheating to player who follows paytable and win 300k$. I am also curious, probably the thing go the way, when RTG did not test slot, and changing bet before last feature( this is what op did, yeah?) is ok, because u still need to hit freegames and bigger bet. After 300k in winnings, they understand their problem, and just void money.
I am still not understand why they not pay to player anything, if this is their bad. Also i am wonder if OP really one who play this way?
Explain someone to me, i am not understand at all

 

[Finn]

wow
he really had high iq because you need some brain to discover exploits in the casino. just not big enough to run into 100K winnings, which for some is life changing money.

Orc vs Elf exploit was pretty well known, even if he had been more careful, it wouldn't have helped, casinos have confiscated winnings of less than $3k from Orc vs Elf exploits, at least based on the complaints of the exploiters on this forum.

 

[maphesto]

Can someone explain me, how this can be called cheating to player who follows paytable and win 300k$.

HIGHIQ found a way that RTG didn't know about. Yes, it's cheating if you know that the game is paying in a way it shouldn't. It's like filling up slots like Scrooge, Wealth Spa, TR2, Robin Hood and Devil's Delight with free bonus money (often max cashout) and come back and get them with a small deposit...

I like to add to this mess that Five different reps answered my PM about the defunct game and none of them were Intertops. Intertops didn't respond to this thread either.

 

[cpdnd31]

Hi all. first let me state I posted about this game in December. If you remember I was trying like hell to get people to notice that this game was way messed up. i took screenshots and I even did video. Their live chat blew me off until the 3rd time when I asked where can I send screenshots. I even went as far to contact an affiliate friend of mine who works with them saying pull the game its messed up big time.

I tried posting as many screenshots and even took video. However I was able to post a few then screenies went down here.

If you remember I said to them I dont want winnings please return original deposits, they did and put a bonus with playthru attached. Thats when I lost it completly and thought to hell with this. However I did repost when they apologized and just gave me original back. I played game again and it was way messed up still. I took video I could not figure how to upload and I stated any rep or person wants it I will send it to them. NO ONE RESPONDED> I thought I tried.

Honesty is why I said I just want my money back. They would have owed me over 3 grand if I would have said pay me all my winnings however I'm not gonna take advantage of a broken slot. In my heart I was trying to save a casino the headache of just this. Of just what happened, now who do we believe? According to them the game was fixed. hmmm I knew better.

What upsets me is did the player read my thread and take advantage, did the casino read my thread and say yes a way out. There is no winner in this scenario. I'm upset. If the casino would have pulled that game like I was begging them to do. if they would have responded to my pms and live chat this crap would not have happened.

I understand I am a nobody to them however I had proof and in my heart I was trying to do the right thing for them. Hell I didn't even get a Thank you. I got a email stating it's fixed and it's ok. I knew better.

Now I feel like crap thinking a player may have taken advantage of a thread I made or a casino may be taking advantage of a player. Kinda like what came first the chicken or the egg.

All I know is I was honest and now I'm MORE UPSET THEN EVER>>>>>

I tried and I am truly sorry for the shit storm that is about to hit..

All I can say is I'm really glad I stayed away from this game and casino in question. Also glad I'm not Max today.

 

[Jory]

I would have thought all games were rigorously tested before realease to insure this kind of thing can not happen. If they release a game with an error that allows the player to manipulate the RTP, then there must also be games that have errors in the casinos favour.

Surely the statistics would show this slot was paying out more than it should and the option is always there to have it immediately pulled. They appear to have chosen to ignor the issue and insist their software is perfect. What happens when there is a genuine error in a game the reduces the RTP to player? If they are not willing to take immediate action over an exploit in the players favour then they sure as hell are not going to take notice of any error in the casinos favour.

If such an error was spotted after 6 months due to the average RTP being around 80% instead of 95%, would the casino refund all players who wagered on this game? No chance of that. There would be a small update to the game rectifying the problem and no one would be none the wiser.

OPs behaviour aside I believe it makes the software developers appear incompetent. The game should not have been released in the first place and any time they release a game in the future there will always be a doubt in the mind of whether or not the game is running how it should.

 

[BMWSTACK]

Well first I thought the money came from dream run, but I guess he was just showing a screenshot to illustrate the title of his thread. He goes on to say he hit 500x on Vulcan and a few wins on other machines including Orc vs Elf. He really emphasized the Vulcan hit but not the others so much, but in the end I guess a majority of money was on Orc vs. Elf.

On a side note, I wonder how many times there are problems that are a disadvantage to the player that the casino never comes out and talks about?

Also maybe if they were not coming out with new games every week maybe they could spend the time to make sure when they put out one it works correctly.

 

[bigjohn]

To me it seems RTG better be a little more diligent in testing their games before going live with them. Wasn't there a similar problem with the game "Dream Run?"

Ok, I'll agree the OP was certainly, knowingly, exploiting a software problem but the fact is he played the game, didn't try to modify the software in any way, and won according to the pay table.

While I believe the conclusion by Max is correct it seems to me that there should be some backlash for RTG. I would think they should be held accountable for what they offered. Maybe at least return the deposits and ban/blacklist the player.

We just had an episode where an Airline mistakenly offered tickets for ridiculously low prices by mistake but they honored the deals they had made. Clearly they lost thousands.

FWIW, IMO the 'software error' clause is too encompassing and releases the game supplier from any and all liability.

Some people seem pro-casino or pro-player, I am pro-both sides held to the rules with the same veracity.

 

[theapple]

thats the one thing i really like about online casinos. they can get away with just about anything.

game malfunction - they can void all ur winnings

now that sounds fair.

but it gets a bit less 'fair' if that same malfunction was reported 100's of times but they decide not to fix the game in question, and whats even worse, they dont even temporary suspend that game, but allow people to play it, while being fully aware that game is not working as intended. Its same $"($( like that mgs Dark knight slot, they will take your winnings but if you ask for refund because of obvious game malfunction, you are not getting it.

and no i dont feel sorry for casinos that do such a thing, because more likely than not they are doing it on purpose as they are 'free' to confiscate winnings to any player that pretty much plays this game, because you know, its game malfunction. and stuff.

tldr:
if theres a game malfunction but you manage to win, you wont get your winnings
but if theres game malfunction and you lose your deposit, in that case its all good.

no seriously, why do we allow such $%("# and how come casinos can get it they way pretty much every time is beyond me.

and no i dont want cheaters to get away with free money, but when casinos are aware theres game malfunction and yet decide to keep that game up, i dont feel sorry for them one bit and really hope this tactics backfire sooner rathar than later.

/end rant

 

[mimi26]

I am in shock about HIHIQ, , sorry guys but have I missed a thread about this games mafunction?, because I cant understand how he cheated it

 

[homerbert]

I am still does not get any reply to me, how exactly user used slot to get wins?
In paytable no rule about average bet on the freespins, NO RULE.
Also, ok, u get better feature on any bet. Did this guarantee you get profit? No, as you still should play high to get freespins + nobody guarantee that feature pay big.
Who here can guarantee that this was malfunction, not the RTG mistake? If in paytable no words about average bet on freespins feature, then it not cheating from player to do so.
For example, you play DOA, get 5 wilds, nice win. Then you go another casino, get 5 wilds. You betting higher and higher, and in 5 casinos made amazing win. Then netent appear and told this is mistake in game, just glitch...
Also question that disturbing me, if slot work incorrect, in my honest world software creator should:
a) pull out slot
b) void all games on this slot, it means: refund losers, void winners. Is this done? I guess no. So in the end RTG just make a lot of money, even not testing their own slot. They do mistake, nobody here blame them for this, all told how user is bad.
I am not understand such things, i do not agree with decision of RTG. They lost their reputation in my eyes, and i never play any rtg casino in future.
Max, Bryan, i am not blame casinos or anything like this, i just write things which interesting for me.
And once again, someone, point out for me, how user exactly cheated casinos, and how rtg can say game malfunction, if there are no rule in paytable. Thats made me angry.

 

[Finn]

High IQ?

It doesn't appear so.

Another fraudster bites the dust. TBH, I had suspicions when he was posting about the "flaws" in the Battlestar game from MGS a while back. He's probably done this before with other games are other casinos.

Same with Dark Knight Rises, he started a thread and filed a PAB when the multiplier he got for his bonus round was the average bet over the current game session, and not the current higher bet. This averaging had been done to prevent any kind of cumulative feature farming abuse.

He seems to have a record of trying to look for and use cumulative feature farming bugs.

 

[maxd]

... i am not blame casinos or anything like this, i just write things which interesting for me.
And once again, someone, point out for me, how user exactly cheated casinos, and how rtg can say game malfunction, if there are no rule in paytable. Thats made me angry.

Ah, so you are just HIGHIQ aren't you? Multiple forum accounts is a violation of _our_ Terms. Adious, again.

 

[mimi26]

Ah, so you are just HIGHIQ aren't you? Multiple forum accounts is a violation of _our_ Terms. Adious, again.

WTF , this shit is getting weird, time to put the crack pipe down I think

 

[Finn]

So, as some of you will probably have guessed, the OP used that exploit to dramatically increase his winnings. Contrary to his implied statement that only a modest portion of his winnings came from the defective game the casino has shown that fully 85% of the total winnings were derived via the game exploit. Furthermore the non-exploit winnings came after.

i had amazing run and the best pay was VULCAN slot pay 6000x my bet... had that 500x multiplier... hit also nice wins on the new slot orc vs elf and paydirt and many more .. oh yeah not to forget the slot DREAM RUN

homerbert, don't defend HIGHIQ, he even himself knows that he was exploiting, if he believed that he got honestly that 85% of his winnings from orc vs elf, his statement would have emphasized that game more, not just mention it passing by, nice wins also in that and many more.

cant upload pictures i see the system not allowed me..


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Also if he believed that he was not exploiting, he would have posted some real money shots, like his guts 399 x 50€ bet, not just this random screenshot that just shows the account balance, and has the reels in the default position before the first roll.

 

[maxd]

... glad I'm not Max today.

People tell me that pretty much EVERY day. Seriously though, sorry to hear they put you through so much hassle for trying to help. That sucks.

 

[SlotMonster]

Ah, so you are just HIGHIQ aren't you? Multiple forum accounts is a violation of _our_ Terms. Adious, again.

With all due respect, Max, I know homerbet personally. We live in the same city, and met each other few times. If you have any proof the homerbet is HIGHIQ - I would like to see it (if possible, please).

 

[maphesto]

I've tried to look at posts of these two gentlemen (homerbert and HIGHIQ) and I can't see that many similarities.

 

[Finn]

HIGHIQ never starts his sentences with capital letter, whereas homerbert usually does