Doubling up your big wins?

jshort

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How many of you have use the GAMBLE feature after a big win?

For me, I loved the idea of going for those break even odds to double-up my bigger wins and I was more likely to do it if I had a bonus WR to beat. Then after several occasions of getting 5-6 consetutive loses (even got 9 consecutive losses once) I stopped. Too demoralizing.
 

mcgameboy

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No chance I go anywhere near the gamble feature. Wins are hard enough to come by without giving the casino an extra chance to f*ck you over.
 

mrmark21

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Not me. Never big wins. TBH I'd play it more often but I tend to forget about the gamble feature. I get so wrapped up in the slot that I forgot about this other feature. I actually don't mind it either but I'd never do it on a big win.
 

jshort

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No chance I go anywhere near the gamble feature. Wins are hard enough to come by without giving the casino an extra chance to f*ck you over.
My thinking use to be "if there gonna f*ck you over, then there going to f*ck you over SOMEHOW regardless if you use the double up". I noticed
though that the emotional high I'd experience after a big win would turn to anguish if I gambled and LOST though! This just started happening too often
and I like to leave my gambling session feeling happy :)

MrMark

Well if my win was greater than x50 bet, I usually wouldn't either. But as for those x10 - x20 wins, hmmmmm.
 

rockycatt

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I think that double up feature is on a bandwidth / rtp , different than the slots your playing and way more to the house , does any one know if they are tested [the double up feature that is ]
 

nisosbar

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As others have said, not on big wins, but on small wins, maybe - esp. if I'm close to busting out. Then if I do double, I can go to VP or Roulette, double it again, and maybe have another session at slotting. I would MAYBE do it on big wins if I was having a really good session, but to be honest, I don't think I have ever done it - if I want to resist, I typically hit spin right away in order to take that option off the table, irreversibly.
 

jshort

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I think that double up feature is on a bandwidth / rtp , different than the slots your playing and way more to the house , does any one know if they are tested [the double up feature that is ]
How do you figure? Do you mean has it been certified for fairness like the other online games?

FYI; Out of all the casino games, the GAMBLE feature is the easiest game to test yourself for fairness (though its time consuming)?

I sorta semi-tested it twice. First test passed (though probably not enough trials to make any definite conclusion), but on a different experiment under different conditions it failed (9 consecutive losses and I ran out of money so I couldn't continue lol).

If you run 10,000 trials, 95.5% of the time the fraction of wins / (total trials) should fall inside the interval 0.49 - 0.51 if the true odds of winning are
indeed 50%. Hence if you did 10,000 Gambles and got less than 4900 wins, your either in the bottom 5th-percentile (just shit luck), or the casino really is screwing you!
 

osulle

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I have used the double feature a few of times on Leagues of Fortune slot. I won most of the time and lost once. The losing one was around 25 and I had a 75% chance of winning. Anyway ever since then I haven't used that feature. I would never use the double up feature where you have to pick a card though.
 

jshort

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I have used the double feature a few of times on Leagues of Fortune slot. I won most of the time and lost once. The losing one was around 25 and I had a 75% chance of winning. Anyway ever since then I haven't used that feature. I would never use the double up feature where you have to pick a card though.
Why? I always use that one.
 

mcgameboy

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The pick a card gamble feature is f*cking rubbish. Tried it out on Avalon. I needed FOURTEEN attempts to get ONE correct suit. And FOUR to get ONE correct colour. I deliberately tested the feature on small wins (ones that were smaller than my actual bet) because I had a feeling it was going to give poor returns. But they were not just poor, they were bordering on outright rigged. Just felt like a complete screw over job. Tried it once, saw plenty and vowed "never again".

It's not so bad on the video pokers though. But again, I'd rather just get on with playing hands/spins instead of gambling wins.
 

jshort

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Be sure to read those T & C carefully. I have frequently seen where gamble feature does not count toward the WR.
Every casino I played had a 0% contribution with regards to WR for these break-even games.

The one T&C term players have to watch out for are the ones regardling low-risk wagering. You have to be aware of any max betting limit rules too, but that ones easy so long as you don't forget what the limit is.
 
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jshort

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The pick a card gamble feature is f*cking rubbish. Tried it out on Avalon. I needed FOURTEEN attempts to get ONE correct suit. And FOUR to get ONE correct colour. I deliberately tested the feature on small wins (ones that were smaller than my actual bet) because I had a feeling it was going to give poor returns. But they were not just poor, they were bordering on outright rigged. Just felt like a complete screw over job. Tried it once, saw plenty and vowed "never again".

It's not so bad on the video pokers though. But again, I'd rather just get on with playing hands/spins instead of gambling wins.
The odds of getting at least 13 consecutive losses are (0.75)^13 = 2.4%. Were you playing with a bonus in effect when this happened?

As a frequent player, weirder stuff happens to me by chance on and off. With that said, you mentioned you did this will small wins because you ALREADY SUSPECTED it wasn't being accurate??? I;d be in the "never again" camp too.
 

osulle

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Why? I always use that one.
Cause its too much of a gamble:eek: The gamble feature on the newer MG slots are a little easier to win on since you can set the amount you wish to gamble. You can go for a lower risk for a lower return or higher etc the wheel then turns and stops either on blue for win or red for lose. As I said I didn't use it much and now have stopped since I lost that one time.:D

I have only done it on 32Red, its not against the t&c's although it doesn't count towards wagering. The times i did it though I wasn't playing with a bonus.
 
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jshort

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I have only done it on 32Red, its not against the t&c's although it doesn't count towards wagering. The times i did it though I wasn't playing with a bonus.
It shouldn't make a difference if a bonus is in play (obviously), but I've had some pretty one sided results when I have used a bonus and doubled big(ish)
wins, including one occasion that had nine consecutive losses.

I was kinda hoping someone here on CM was gonna say something like "TAKE YOUR TINFOIL HAT OFF JSHORT, I GO DOUBLE-UP ON BIG WINS ALL THE TIME AND DO JUST FINE".

Instead the response seems to be "THERES NO WAY IN HELL I'D EVER RISK LOSING MY BIG WINS BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT" lol
 

Nifty29

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The pick a card gamble feature is f*cking rubbish. Tried it out on Avalon. I needed FOURTEEN attempts to get ONE correct suit. And FOUR to get ONE correct colour. I deliberately tested the feature on small wins (ones that were smaller than my actual bet) because I had a feeling it was going to give poor returns. But they were not just poor, they were bordering on outright rigged. Just felt like a complete screw over job. Tried it once, saw plenty and vowed "never again".

It's not so bad on the video pokers though. But again, I'd rather just get on with playing hands/spins instead of gambling wins.
18 picks isn't even the beginning of a reasonable sample.

Wild swings can and will happen in such circumstances.

Yes, it's a nasty result, but hardly cause for questioning fairness.
 

osulle

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It shouldn't make a difference if a bonus is in play (obviously), but I've had some pretty one sided results when I have used a bonus and doubled big(ish)
wins, including one occasion that had nine consecutive losses.

I was kinda hoping someone here on CM was gonna say something like "TAKE YOUR TINFOIL HAT OFF JSHORT, I GO DOUBLE-UP ON BIG WINS ALL THE TIME AND DO JUST FINE".

Instead the response seems to be "THERES NO WAY IN HELL I'D EVER RISK LOSING MY BIG WINS BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT" lol
I think the reason why we are saying we won't risk it because we are lucky to get decent wins on slots as its the nature of the beast. Taking a chance on losing a win is too much of a gamble. Time to take the tin foil off jshort. 50/50 is just too much of a risk and has nothing to do with the fairness of the games. :D
 

Diane

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How many of you have use the GAMBLE feature after a big win?

For me, I loved the idea of going for those break even odds to double-up my bigger wins and I was more likely to do it if I had a bonus WR to beat. Then after several occasions of getting 5-6 consetutive loses (even got 9 consecutive losses once) I stopped. Too demoralizing.
NEVER, EVER on a big win. Why risk cash in hand for a 50/50 payoff? Pure recklessness IMHO.

Diane
 

lotusch

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I hardly use the gamble feature in online gaming,sometimes on Novomatic slots because you can win a progressive when doubling up a certain x of times or you can win some extra SG/MG which are spins on a moneywheel...
But other than that I keep the gambling button for landbased slots... :cool:
 

KasinoKing

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I never use it on slots - like others above, it's hard enough to get a decent win - I'm not going to risk losing it again!

The only time I do use it is on multi-hand video poker; if my win is less than about 80% of my bet I will try to double up to be more than my bet.

KK
 
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