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What sounds like "isolation" to one person is "comfort" to another. I dont feel convenient to visit landbased. That´s simply a personal opinion for each of us, i think nothing to excuse.
UK player done with regulated casinos. How to move to unregulated play?
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What sounds like "isolation" to one person is "comfort" to another. I dont feel convenient to visit landbased. That´s simply a personal opinion for each of us, i think nothing to excuse.
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I've read through this thread and I have a question for the OP.
If you intend to play crypto casinos can I ask how you I tend to purchase crypto and send.to.thr Casino and so withdraw any winnings from your Crypto wallet?
I'm in the UK and you still need to submit your KYC information on the main exchanges such as Coinbase, Kraken, Binance and gate.io, LocalBitcoin and Paxful.
Then you need to submit source of funding and jump through other hoop's when you reach the cap/limit for each exchange - I think coinbase was £500 for level 1 and that is a combined value of deposit and withdrawals (ie deposit and purchase £100 you win £500 you will only be able to withdraw £400 - if that makes sense)
You are also submitting banking information to entities based overseas still.
So you are better off doing with a UK regulated casino and if you do have any serious issues you do have the UK court system to fall back on PLUS the Crypto exchanges are not covered by FCA.
At least when you deposit using a Debit card in the UK on a casino/exchange you do have some cover to get a chargeback if you can prove deposit didn't go through.
Where as if you make a deposit by Crypto to a Casino then just pray you got the right address.
Ive been involved in crypto for 6yrs, lucky enough to have mined 150btc in 2017 and sold them for the high price of £180 - yep £180 big difference between the thousands they've been going for.
I use each of the exchanges listed quite regularly and despite passing/opening all levels I've still faced restrictions depositing and withdrawals both with the exchange and my own banks.
HSBC held £4k on one withdrawal from Kraken at the time of the mtgox crash - 8mths they held that as the banks flagged all exchanges as risk/linked to the crash so I was investigated (oh and when you are investigated by a bank did you know a temporary marker is added to SIRA, CIFAS and National Hunter? Your basically marked as a fraudster so good luck with mortgage, insurance or even employment when them things are on)
One bonus if you don't want to use your banking details or card details with crypto is both Paxful and LocalBitcoin allow you to Trade Gift cards / preloaded Visa & MasterCard's.to get BTC & then you can get paid out straight to a PayPal account after (still.a.risk.of PayPal being blocked)
Now for the past 6mths I've been playing in a Crypto casino using VPN but using my BTC to purchase FUNx tokens - I've not had any issues with withdrawal of the tokens or converting back to BTC & that's been basically £200 to £2k worth if tokens. Thr slot games are a bit shit but I enjoy them - they do have that Aztec Magic megaways though.
I am.also.signed up to other casinos that say there.is no KYC and you don't need a VPN but not been lucky enough to withdraw anything substantial to test that.
When / If you do go the Crypto route still read the t&c's check the minimum deposit amount for each crypto currency and also the important one is if there prices/values are tethered to - most with be USDT in which is approx $0.96 to $1
If you intend to play crypto casinos can I ask how you I tend to purchase crypto and send.to.thr Casino and so withdraw any winnings from your Crypto wallet?
I'm in the UK and you still need to submit your KYC information on the main exchanges such as Coinbase, Kraken, Binance and gate.io, LocalBitcoin and Paxful.
Then you need to submit source of funding and jump through other hoop's when you reach the cap/limit for each exchange - I think coinbase was £500 for level 1 and that is a combined value of deposit and withdrawals (ie deposit and purchase £100 you win £500 you will only be able to withdraw £400 - if that makes sense)
You are also submitting banking information to entities based overseas still.
So you are better off doing with a UK regulated casino and if you do have any serious issues you do have the UK court system to fall back on PLUS the Crypto exchanges are not covered by FCA.
At least when you deposit using a Debit card in the UK on a casino/exchange you do have some cover to get a chargeback if you can prove deposit didn't go through.
Where as if you make a deposit by Crypto to a Casino then just pray you got the right address.
Ive been involved in crypto for 6yrs, lucky enough to have mined 150btc in 2017 and sold them for the high price of £180 - yep £180 big difference between the thousands they've been going for.
I use each of the exchanges listed quite regularly and despite passing/opening all levels I've still faced restrictions depositing and withdrawals both with the exchange and my own banks.
HSBC held £4k on one withdrawal from Kraken at the time of the mtgox crash - 8mths they held that as the banks flagged all exchanges as risk/linked to the crash so I was investigated (oh and when you are investigated by a bank did you know a temporary marker is added to SIRA, CIFAS and National Hunter? Your basically marked as a fraudster so good luck with mortgage, insurance or even employment when them things are on)
One bonus if you don't want to use your banking details or card details with crypto is both Paxful and LocalBitcoin allow you to Trade Gift cards / preloaded Visa & MasterCard's.to get BTC & then you can get paid out straight to a PayPal account after (still.a.risk.of PayPal being blocked)
Now for the past 6mths I've been playing in a Crypto casino using VPN but using my BTC to purchase FUNx tokens - I've not had any issues with withdrawal of the tokens or converting back to BTC & that's been basically £200 to £2k worth if tokens. Thr slot games are a bit shit but I enjoy them - they do have that Aztec Magic megaways though.
I am.also.signed up to other casinos that say there.is no KYC and you don't need a VPN but not been lucky enough to withdraw anything substantial to test that.
When / If you do go the Crypto route still read the t&c's check the minimum deposit amount for each crypto currency and also the important one is if there prices/values are tethered to - most with be USDT in which is approx $0.96 to $1
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The following URL is a blog that identifies Crypto and no-account and No-KYC casinos.
The blog details which casinos are available for places that normally have geo blocks.such as UK and US.
It also.explains in great detail the differences in the type of accounts restrictions, currencies required.
*snip*
PLEASE REMEMBER No-KYC and No-account may seem.like a good idea due.to.what hell you've been through BUT they are unregulated and as I said in post above you do have the UK court system to fall back on, with the case in 2021 of Andy Green v Betfred setting the benchmark and it has identified that casinos try to mislead the consumer via the T& C's so.courts are favouring the player (if it gets to court as there has been quite a few settled.before.that stage)
The following URL is a blog that identifies Crypto and no-account and No-KYC casinos.
The blog details which casinos are available for places that normally have geo blocks.such as UK and US.
It also.explains in great detail the differences in the type of accounts restrictions, currencies required.
*snip*
PLEASE REMEMBER No-KYC and No-account may seem.like a good idea due.to.what hell you've been through BUT they are unregulated and as I said in post above you do have the UK court system to fall back on, with the case in 2021 of Andy Green v Betfred setting the benchmark and it has identified that casinos try to mislead the consumer via the T& C's so.courts are favouring the player (if it gets to court as there has been quite a few settled.before.that stage)
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No, it's not ok
You have placed a direct link to a review site that is grossly incorrect.
For example, the first casino I check, Andromeda, has this in its t&cs
113. Approval of submitted documents takes up to 2-3 (two-three) business days. If the documents were not submitted at once, the Casino might require additional time to process them.
115. Acceptable identification documentation includes, but is not limited to:
- Photocopy of ID (good quality, front/back, in color);
- Color photo of the front side of all the credit card(s) used for making deposits at the Casino. The Casino requires only the first 6 (six) and last 4 (four) digits, the expiration date, the card holder's name. The rest can be covered;
- Photo of the player holding his/her ID close to the face, in good quality and in color;
- Proof of address (Utility, Medical or Delivery Bill or any official document with the Player’s full name, address, and date, provided it has been issued within the past 3 (three) months).
109.All withdrawal payments will be made in 7 (seven) to 10 (ten) business days after approval
So, your site is making inaccurate and ill-advised recommendations.
There is no such thing as a non-kyc casino. Your suggestion and site link is dangerous.
Either you did not check your info, or you just don't care.
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I can just about understand members discussing unlicensed gambling given the current climate in the UK, but do NOT ever post links to sites offering this or encouraging the same. This could tempt people into a whole lot of trouble. Thanks.
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Yes, apologies for my scathing post, I should rub my eyes before spouting.
My post should have gone much more like Dunovers and just said it's not ok to post links to other review sites
Still, what a shoddy and misleading site that is.
My post should have gone much more like Dunovers and just said it's not ok to post links to other review sites
Still, what a shoddy and misleading site that is.
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No need to apologise, it's why I opened with the "mods/admin please delete if..."
I guess at 1:30am I should be cut off and shouldn't of followed up with my second post, I was actually trying to be helpful of which I apologise about the link.
As others in this thread had named crypto casinos (of which are more unregulated than regulated) I presumed to was ok.
The blog was last updated 2nd April so I should of spotted that as well.
The first 3 on the list I've played at which did not and has not required any form of KYC process, andromeda was 5th.
The whole thread is requesting access to Casinos where the OP doesn't want to provide documentation, ie no KYC or even something is not something available to the OP in the UK.
The whole point of these verification requests is to prevent fraud - both against the casino but more importantly the person identified in documents/deposit method.
As I said in my first post the whole UK regulations are there for the above specific reason, and regardless if the OP wants to go down the crypto route they are also required to provide Validation documentation to unrestrict the accounts.
Sorry again for the link.
Think I best not post anything after midnight & medication.
I guess at 1:30am I should be cut off and shouldn't of followed up with my second post, I was actually trying to be helpful of which I apologise about the link.
As others in this thread had named crypto casinos (of which are more unregulated than regulated) I presumed to was ok.
The blog was last updated 2nd April so I should of spotted that as well.
The first 3 on the list I've played at which did not and has not required any form of KYC process, andromeda was 5th.
The whole thread is requesting access to Casinos where the OP doesn't want to provide documentation, ie no KYC or even something is not something available to the OP in the UK.
The whole point of these verification requests is to prevent fraud - both against the casino but more importantly the person identified in documents/deposit method.
As I said in my first post the whole UK regulations are there for the above specific reason, and regardless if the OP wants to go down the crypto route they are also required to provide Validation documentation to unrestrict the accounts.
Sorry again for the link.
Think I best not post anything after midnight & medication.
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Just check RTP again on Crypto 90% of games are max RTP
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No u dont pay Tax you not dealing crypto you gambling with crypto, no one will report you if you hold under £4999 on crypto
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I wouldn't hold your Crypto in an exchange.
I learnt the hard way when mtgox exit scammed.
I'd recommend for BTC either the Blockchain Wallet or an Electrium Wallet.
Blockchain Wallet linked to Blockchain itself so virtually impossible to crash/exit/hacked
Electrium wallets are standalone, install to a folder on pc then back that folder up to a zip / usb. Main file you need to protect is the wallet.dat file.
**Be careful when looking for the Electrium Wallet there are scams about make sure you get it from the Electrium website (electrium.org)
Also make sure the websites URL do start with "Https"
If your looking to use ETH to gamble with then it's Metamask add on for Chrome/firefox or even the Mobile app. Recommend both browser and app then set activity notifications on the app.
I learnt the hard way when mtgox exit scammed.
I'd recommend for BTC either the Blockchain Wallet or an Electrium Wallet.
Blockchain Wallet linked to Blockchain itself so virtually impossible to crash/exit/hacked
Electrium wallets are standalone, install to a folder on pc then back that folder up to a zip / usb. Main file you need to protect is the wallet.dat file.
**Be careful when looking for the Electrium Wallet there are scams about make sure you get it from the Electrium website (electrium.org)
Also make sure the websites URL do start with "Https"
If your looking to use ETH to gamble with then it's Metamask add on for Chrome/firefox or even the Mobile app. Recommend both browser and app then set activity notifications on the app.
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Didn't spot that one.
Lunch time at my local was interesting, they had 3 machines bought in by a rep for them to select. So rep and landlord putting coins in & emptying, so he could see the play and the bonuses. RTP was set at 97%.
He selected the machine, they counted and filled new machine, locked everything up and took the two machines back.
Little old Harry who sups half a mild for an hour put 50p in on 25p stake. First press bonus. £100 win didn't hit the repeat, but second press straight back in and £75 cashpot win.
Landlord straight on phone to company - RTP still 97%, Out of order sign placed on machine ??
Harry bless him said he can afford to have the heating on when he gets home.
Lunch time at my local was interesting, they had 3 machines bought in by a rep for them to select. So rep and landlord putting coins in & emptying, so he could see the play and the bonuses. RTP was set at 97%.
He selected the machine, they counted and filled new machine, locked everything up and took the two machines back.
Little old Harry who sups half a mild for an hour put 50p in on 25p stake. First press bonus. £100 win didn't hit the repeat, but second press straight back in and £75 cashpot win.
Landlord straight on phone to company - RTP still 97%, Out of order sign placed on machine ??
Harry bless him said he can afford to have the heating on when he gets home.
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What, in the middle of May? Where does he live, Kiruna?
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Today, temp hasn't been above 14°C and it's been hammering it down all day. That's coming off a mini heatwave the weekend.
Will drop to around 6°C tonight and then tomorrow thunderstorms with temp at 18°
The good old UK and it's bipolar weather.
Will drop to around 6°C tonight and then tomorrow thunderstorms with temp at 18°
The good old UK and it's bipolar weather.
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Because you may have been signed up to many casinos and these 'new' Ts and Cs and UKGC restrictions,sow or whatever have been implemented during your time at the casino. We have little choice here in the UK now. Personally I am sticking to the large sports betting companies who I also do sports betting with as they,as Dunover mentioned in a recent video,very rarely ask you for personal documents to play there. Again this is screwing the 'little guy' and allowing the big fish to swallow their competition. I have my own views on why this stuff is happening but its a whole political debate and I dont really want to go down that road other than to say that almost everything in the UK now is designed for the big companies to thrive and to kill off any competition to them. I dont believe online gambling is any different.
I don’t think this is the correct advice for the UK …. If you are buying coins through an exchange you are trading and subject to tax.
For it to be tax free it would have to be classed as spread betting which would have to be a gamble on the price movement . This can only be done through licensed spread betting companies.
This is the same as forex , if you go through a normal CFD broker , it is taxable income .
Going through a spread betting account through a broker would be tax free.
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It's only trading if you're holding in anticipation of a price increase. In this case it's simply a medium of exchange to gamble on the casino, with any gambling winnings being tax free as per normal.
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Exactly my problem with L and L casinos,which I loved to play. Small deposits over the group and then bang SOW invasion stuff after submitting details several times. I will show anything except my bank details,bills,card details,utility statements etc,but I will simply not reveal my banking habits to anybody for so called 'leisure' activities. It's like being strip searched if you visit your local gym for a workout.
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well you not trading Crypto or holding, you simple using as payment
to avoid tax is simple just open 20 wallet keep it under £5k you will be tax free for £100.000 free tax
you can open even more than 20 wallet
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You guys should read this in regards of playing on a crypto unregulated casino:
140k confiscated. User banned with no reason. Nothing he can do about it. Be warned! This is Gamdom again. They dont like winning users.
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140k confiscated. User banned with no reason. Nothing he can do about it. Be warned! This is Gamdom again. They dont like winning users.
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You seem desperate to keep people onshore, are you an affiliate?
Again, it comes down to personal freedom of choice and risk assessment. If my idea of entertainment was doing $10 spins on a high variance monster like LD, well, would I be on a Crypto - no way.
For my crappy $100 deposits and 0.40 / 0.60 spins, if anything ever got confiscated I'd personally not so much as blink, walk away and think well, it was great while it lasted.
Again, it comes down to personal freedom of choice and risk assessment. If my idea of entertainment was doing $10 spins on a high variance monster like LD, well, would I be on a Crypto - no way.
For my crappy $100 deposits and 0.40 / 0.60 spins, if anything ever got confiscated I'd personally not so much as blink, walk away and think well, it was great while it lasted.
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"Desperate" ....
Dude if you want to spunk your funds onto a crypto casino and even come close to having that risk GO AHEAD!
Dude if you want to spunk your funds onto a crypto casino and even come close to having that risk GO AHEAD!
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You are smart enough to know that old people's body thermostats feel cold a lot more than us *cough cough* 'youngsters.' Although as a non drinker I'd expect Harry to get more from his cash buying his drink from a supermarket instead.
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140k confiscated. User banned with no reason. Nothing he can do about it. Be warned! This is Gamdom again. They dont like winning users.
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Hi I am not saying that it is without risk but they are offshore casinos that never ask for KYC - even when it might show in the T&C - and yes they could hit you with that anytime. But a few places I have played at do not / did not ask for KYC with high better and wd levels.
I have been asked for KYC at 2 places which I wont name. One I refused and just closed account the other I gave very basic info - through vpn
name email and 1 form of ID - this one is a very well known offshore crypto. It passed and I could continued to play. The account was placed into withdraw mode only - I did make a small wd whilst waiting for the process to complete and it was done instantly.
Now of course this is only my experience - and whilst I have had no issues - I am not saying you could not get caught out. And the risk level is always there. But for me wd / dep have gone without issues ever.
The bigger problem is the absolute lack of RG - so its wide open. But for people who can control the gaming - then I suppose it is a possible option based on your own assessment of the risk.
I will return to crypto gaming later this year but only at one place. Oh coinbase booted me out - ) so needing to set up a new system for DEP/WD - dont have time for that now but its all doable.
This is my own view only - and not any recommendation.
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not sure way he got banned I won $42k on same casino on DOA2 they paid me right away, they did ask me for ID I send my UK driving licence got approved fastYou guys should read this in regards of playing on a crypto unregulated casino:You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
140k confiscated. User banned with no reason. Nothing he can do about it. Be warned! This is Gamdom again. They dont like winning users.
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Thanks for sharing, how do you subscribe to this?
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Yes I’ve been invited to the ‘players panel’ a few times now on a couple of casinos.
Not sure what good it will do as the UKGC appear to be non responsive when it comes to compromise.
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I got invited by Partycasino, I am sure it will help when we fill survey, we siting on silence talking on forums what UKGC is doing to slots, well Government takes feedback from gamcare or gamestop forum.removing autospin bonus buy and now £100pm limit, now we can fight back and give are feedback maybe we can have better gambling...more of us we fill survey better chance UKGC will not take any action on £100pm limit, same time we save are self from going to crypto casino
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No autoplay. Constant reminder emails about responsible gaming. Constant ingame pop up reminders about gameplay. No bonus buys. Paperwork around verification - ofcourse after depositing. Let's say someone has millions in savings yet same way treated as everyone. Rtp decreases causing players to lose more. It's already a big joke and the only thing this will cause is everyone in the UK looking for alternatives and if a half decent one comes around they will grab it. And what has the ukgc accomplished then? Everyone not/semi protected for anything, just to get the fun back. Things need changed badly.
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All reducing max stake will do is slow down losses, but also prevent a player from getting ahead by catching a lucky bonus on a higher stake once the balance allows. What has anyone’s salary/job got to do with whether you hit lucky on a session and can afford to up the bet with the bankroll you’ve built?
With such proposals it’s hard to imagine that these people understand anything at all about online slots play. It’ll be the final nail in the coffin of regulated UK casinos as there’ll be an exodus to unlicensed crypto sites.
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what will UKGC do or profit when most of UK gamblers will go too crypto or give up gambling ? Carolyn Harris MP am sure she act what gamban or gamstop inform her...Gamestop if you join 6month or 1 years just take brake you will target as problem gambler even you not...they are 1000s of casinos online without license target UK players.what UKGC or MP`s do to protect UK players..they did fk all
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I have the feeling if this was a non profit organisation things wouldn't be as bad. They just come up with all sort of shit hoping casino's break the rules by mistake and then fine them. And all that money goes in their pockets. Perhaps I'm wrong, not sure.
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I think it's a good move to only raise the stakes on those who can actually afford it.
You want to gamble (away) ? Go ahead, after approval of a reasonable income that can sustain your habbits. Fair enough.
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It's in dutch, but what it comes down to was this: an employee of a house service managed to "slip" through millions over time because she was head of the administration, and was able to fraudulent send money to her own or her daughters account(s) to sustain her gambling addiction.
If above check would be in place, there was no way that she was able to sustain such bets or let alone fund her habbit like that with just a regular income in monthly basis.
I mean someone making on avg a 3000 a month cant sustain doing 10k deposits a month to a casino. It would be either savings or heritage of some orders, and still should be questioned in my opinion.
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This women ran a caring agency for people who needed true care. Her business was subsidized for millions and she managed to take quite alot of money (in the millions) over time to play in a landbased casino. When the casino took her apart, in a private conversation she spoken that she had acces to way more money if needed. At that point Holland casino did the right thing: they banned her from all places in Holland pretty much, on where she still managed to take or book a trip to Vegas, and spend over 30 grand in just a few days.
Once accountant figured out she took awefully alot of loans and private bookings to herself, this came up to a staggering 1.2 million on which all involved party's demand to pay that back. She bankrupt now, and she is facing legal consequences now for this case.
If a proper cheque was done upfront, this woud'nt have happend. At least detected in a far more early stage then after the 1.2 million of damage done due to her gambling addiction.
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Where’s the logic? I can understand people’s deposits being limited as that can be correlated directly to income. Bet size can not be correlated in all scenarios because you may deposit £20, build it up to £500 and wish to do £5 bets, for example. If a player can afford the initial £20 deposit they can afford to increase the bets to any level during that particular session.
What I’m saying here is an example of logical and pragmatic reasoning.
I can understand with FOBTs because your winnings are capped anyway. Totally different to online slots.
So with that I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you. You seem to have an extreme authoritarian view when it comes to gambling; one that isn’t shared with the majority of slots players it seems.
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I'm not from the UK, but i do watch in certain manner regulations and / or updates in that regards. With some players, there's a significant risk that they can blow millions before someone even notices it. No casino in the world is going to complain about the situation because, they are making money on their bets. So nobody asks a question and i think it's a good move to have a more indepth checking on their players.
Landbased casino's are trained for that behaviour too. They start seeing someone come in often? How does he or she play? Are they leaving angry or are they becoming hostile to others after leaving the slots for example? You impossible cant in a online situation because online gambling is isolating. If a casino would ask me how i get my funds i'd tell them it's none of their business to be honest really.
a 2 pound a stake limitation, is a good thing and for a regular based amount of players that could be set to whatever they are comfertable with. This separetes the potential victems vs the already hardcore gamblers out there. They need addictive players, quite alot of any revenue in a casino comes from players who visit or play more then frequent. Always has bin like that.
Politicians understand as well that, they are dependend of quite some TAX revenue out of gambling. By cutting the spending limits they would harm their own tax income in that case.
Landbased casino's are trained for that behaviour too. They start seeing someone come in often? How does he or she play? Are they leaving angry or are they becoming hostile to others after leaving the slots for example? You impossible cant in a online situation because online gambling is isolating. If a casino would ask me how i get my funds i'd tell them it's none of their business to be honest really.
a 2 pound a stake limitation, is a good thing and for a regular based amount of players that could be set to whatever they are comfertable with. This separetes the potential victems vs the already hardcore gamblers out there. They need addictive players, quite alot of any revenue in a casino comes from players who visit or play more then frequent. Always has bin like that.
Politicians understand as well that, they are dependend of quite some TAX revenue out of gambling. By cutting the spending limits they would harm their own tax income in that case.
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Hey guys!
Please consider this post as just a personal opinion of someone who worked closely with many crypto casinos and know how biggest ones working atm from internal information. I do not offer anything nor suggest anything.
Step by step:
From what I can see:
1) Crypto casinos have much more bigger RTP to offer. Simple, they have less expenses on payment systems, they have bigger volumes than most of the 'average' FIAT money casinos, and they do not need to put low RTP settings on games.
2) From what I have seen - biggest crypto brands will beat 'really good with high ratings brands'. In terms of customer support, withdrawal speed, security and in general safe.
3) Crypto defo is a future of gambling. Or let's say decentralised gambling. Nowadays game providers / payments systems / regulators take way too much money on everything and when you go crypto - it's simply easier to work.
Once again - it's just my personal opinion and I'm not recommending anything to anyone.
Industry in strange position at the moment with few different future outcomes, will be interesting to see how it goes.
Br,
V.
Please consider this post as just a personal opinion of someone who worked closely with many crypto casinos and know how biggest ones working atm from internal information. I do not offer anything nor suggest anything.
Step by step:
From what I can see:
1) Crypto casinos have much more bigger RTP to offer. Simple, they have less expenses on payment systems, they have bigger volumes than most of the 'average' FIAT money casinos, and they do not need to put low RTP settings on games.
2) From what I have seen - biggest crypto brands will beat 'really good with high ratings brands'. In terms of customer support, withdrawal speed, security and in general safe.
3) Crypto defo is a future of gambling. Or let's say decentralised gambling. Nowadays game providers / payments systems / regulators take way too much money on everything and when you go crypto - it's simply easier to work.
Once again - it's just my personal opinion and I'm not recommending anything to anyone.
Industry in strange position at the moment with few different future outcomes, will be interesting to see how it goes.
Br,
V.
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you can have 20 casino accounts and deposit 1k each no one will ask you anything.
UK makes about £3.1 billion on tax from gambling a year, easy they make another £2-£3 billion from casinos fine them a year
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In some London casinos seem like their staff is instructed to ask their customers if they are comfortable with their gambling habits, but others are more concerned with money laundering. You can go to Hippodrome and buy £10,000 in table game chips with your bank card and no one will say anything, but if you come in with a grand of cash in your pocket, they will jump around you like pigs.
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I use to go to Grosvenor Casino with friends on weekend, The Barracuda in Baker street, last time they stop my friend and ask him about his Cash he got it from ATM, they told him show his bank app he got it from bank lol he replay go fk u self to them we left,now we just go to Malta for weekend we stay one night and come back, Jan to April flys are cheap and hotels
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To be honest with you, I'm perplexed as to why so many people carry cash on them these days.
I very rarely have cash, so much easier to pay for stuff with a simple tap of your card.
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In my daily routine, i'm the same - I almost never have cash in my pocket. But it's a different story when it comes to casinos. In London's Leicester Square, there are five casinos almost attached to each other, so if you win at one, you can decide to try your luck at another. And this is how you may end up walking from one casino to other with a bunch of cash in your pocket.
Hippodrome is generally the worst in terms of checking where your money comes from because anyone can walk in there without being registered and throw it on the table to exchange it for chips or simply go and stick it in slot machines.
There are some withdrawal limits for unregistered customers of up to 1k i guess, which means if you win more than that they'll pay you out 1k only and you'll get the rest when you come in next time with your ID and get registered (in case you don't have your ID on you right now).
But even 1K is enough for those who are up to some dodgy things since they can milk the cash desk without any probs.
When you come in with a sealed package of red 50s, they can see that it came from one of their neighbouring casinos; sometimes they even keep the seal. However, if you have a ton of unsealed 20s, they will be suspicious.
On the one hand, you can understand them, but when your money is coming from legitimate sources and they keep asking you stupid childish questions, you just want to leave the casino because such simply ruins your evening.
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Grosvenor is my fav, and the one on Edgeware road isn't bad too, Victoria Casino which is the same company.
But Malta, I guess I'll give it a shot... lol! I see that tickets start at £17, which is about the same as what I pay to get from Windsor to Waterloo.
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I think some crypto-only casinos are already rocking the scene due to their fast payouts, high RTP slots, and modern looking websites. Plus the majority of their reps are sitting on the bitcoin talk forum and can be reached at any time.
Yes, they are unregulated, so to find one of the top quality players simply need to do a bit of research. But "regulated" usually does not mean that the site is better to play at since it's all about who runs the casino and what their business intentions are.
For UK players, however, no-gamstop sites are far more dangerous to play at because they are simply websites with a connected package of fake games and dubious payment methods.
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Ah another N1 representative who holds a history of not paying out their customers.
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Their license requires them to figure out of the customer is'nt laundering money or not. If they dont ask questions and they did got caught > huge ass fine waiting for them. In worst case they get their license stripped.
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Their license requires them to figure out of the customer is'nt laundering money or not. If they dont ask questions and they did got caught > huge ass fine waiting for them. In worst case they get their license stripped.
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