UK player done with regulated casinos. How to move to unregulated play?

[DreamRJ]

but it is my first deposit and purchase of litecoin and it says there is a 72 hour wait. When I type in the amount I want to withdraw to a casino with my vave litecoin address the button is greyed out and I tried typing lower amount and still greyed out.

It gives a red error message under the type box where you type the amount saying invalid amount?

So what the fuck is wrong then?

 

[satchnz]

This maybe?

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[DreamRJ]

This maybe?

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So I have to wait like I said then?

 

[satchnz]

So I have to wait like I said then?

I guess so. They mustn’t have had this first purchase restriction when I first started using them a couple of years ago hence why I’m not familiar with this restriction.

 

[DreamRJ]

ok

 

[Guntis]

If you just want to try out that casino; use Skrill crypto withdrawal for now. And in case you win send your Litecoin to Kraken.

 

[DreamRJ]

If you just want to try out that casino; use Skrill crypto withdrawal for now. And in case you win send your Litecoin to Kraken.

What are you talking about? Kraken does not even have skrill as an option all it has for me is Plaid or PayPal

Or are you talking about I login to my very old Skrill account that I have not used in many years?

If that is the case I did not even know you was able to buy crypto with Skrill?

 

[Guntis]

What are you talking about? Kraken does not even have skrill as an option all it has for me is Plaid or PayPal

Or are you talking about I login to my very old Skrill account that I have not used in many years?

If that is the case I did not even know you was able to buy crypto with Skrill?

Lol..., yes your very old Skrill account nowadays allows sending crypto, but not receiving.

So i mean this time, Skill would work just fine, if you just wanted to try the casino out.

...and send your winnings to Kraken as you have a wallet address over there.

 

[DreamRJ]

Lol..., yes your very old Skrill account nowadays allows sending crypto, but not receiving.

So i mean this time, Skill would work just fine, if you just wanted to try the casino out.

...and sent your winnings to kraken as you have a wallet address over there.

Ok good to know, I might do it later then.

Thanks for the heads up bud.

 

[tazmart]

Going back to the original thread, I totally agree. Before I played my first online slot about 9 years ago I had always dismissed them as a scam, but then I took a £5 offer at Gala Bingo, won over £200 and never looked back.
However, if I was just starting out now it would simply confirm my original belief that slots were a scam and would never play them again. I have lost all trust in UK casinos, games developers and the Gambling Commission, because to all intents and purposes the slots are basically a scam these days, and I truly believe there is much more to it than a few percent drop in RTP.
Games that I used to play all the time 3 or 4 years ago now play so utterly differently that they've just become money losers. Wins have plummeted, dead spins have gone through the roof, and if I hadn't worked out how to spot a losing game very early on I wouldn't win anything on 90 - 95% of all games I play.
There's nothing random about these slots at all as they all do the same things, basically at the same times practically every game, that you can set your watch by them. UK casinos have fallen so far, in every area, that I now do most of my playing at an offshore site. Yes, it costs a few quid to deposit and withdraw, but it's just like playing those same games 4 or 5 years ago, with no RSI and the ability to actually get some decent wins on a relatively regular basis. It's actually fun to play the games again and I didn't realise how much I missed autoplay until I accidentally joined and deposited at this site a year or so ago (I didn't realise it was a Curacao site at the time).
Never had any problems up to this point and I hate playing at UK casinos now, and hardly ever do.

 

[ritae]

Great being able to bonus buy on all the Big Time Gaming slots now. No more waiting hours for the Final Countdown or Chocolates!

 

[DreamRJ]

Great being able to bonus buy on all the Big Time Gaming slots now. No more waiting hours for the Final Countdown or Chocolates!

Oh so you moved to unregulated too? Which casino?

 

[DreamRJ]

Well I just finally was able to withdraw to my vave casino account, Just playing now, and damn its nice to have bonus buys and turbo spins/autoplay back

Just did a bonus buy and then just got a free spins the first normal spin on a Game Art buffalo slot and won 34 euros from it, so now I got more to play with, Happy times ahead I hope

 

[DreamRJ]

Just managed to have 2 insane wins on zeus vs hades and big bass golden lake. Made it to 10X

Did 2 withdraws 2.0 litecoin and then 3.0 litecoin

Got 1.7litecoin left to play with as well

Any idea how long it will take for them to be processed?

 

[interlog]

Just managed to have 2 insane wins on zeus vs hades and big bass golden lake. Made it to 10X

Did 2 withdraws 2.0 litecoin and then 3.0 litecoin

Got 1.7litecoin left to play with as well

Any idea how long it will take for them to be processed?

Usually within the hour

 

[DreamRJ]

Usually within the hour

ok well its been over an hour now and still pending

 

[DreamRJ]

3 hours now and both withdrawals still pending in Vave

 

[Guntis]

3 hours now and both withdrawals still pending in Vave

In future, try to do just one withdrawal. When creating your 2nd withdrawal you could cancel the 1st one and then request all in one single go. This way they process them quicker.

Payout times at this casino can vary, once I had to wait 1 day. But usually they pay between 30 min to 3hours.

 

[DreamRJ]

In future, try to do just one withdrawal. When creating your 2nd withdrawal you could cancel the 1st one and then request all in one single go. This way they process them quicker.

Payout times at this casino can vary, once I had to wait 1 day. But usually they pay between 30 min to 3hours.

Ok well I just spoke to live chat and they said I have to wait for my turn basically its been 4 hours now.

 

[slot_zombie]

The first withdraw at this casino is always slow for some reason. You'll get paid.

 

[DreamRJ]

The first withdraw at this casino is always slow for some reason. You'll get paid.

Ok I hope so, thanks

 

[DreamRJ]

Still pending

 

[DreamRJ]

Still pending nearly 24 hours now

I will not play at vave again if this is the normal withdrawal times.

 

[satchnz]

For reference from someone who has made a few withdrawals from Vave over the past year or so - I played at Vave today and turned a $60 deposit into $150 (in LTC). Requested a $150 withdrawal which was approved 5 mins later and the withdrawal was in my local wallet shortly after. Admittedly this was very quick by Vave’s standards, but I’ve never had to wait more than a couple of hours bar a couple of situations explained below.

I do remember my first withdrawal taking overnight to be approved. It was also a weekend which may factor into the delay.

I also experienced a withdrawal delay when I withdrew to a different LTC address than I’ve used with Vave previously. So try to always use the same address to withdraw to in order to minimise delays.

Vave has been very solid for me so don’t give up on them yet.

 

[DreamRJ]

For reference from someone who has made a few withdrawals from Vave over the past year or so - I played at Vave today and turned a $60 deposit into $150 (in LTC). Requested a $150 withdrawal which was approved 5 mins later and the withdrawal was in my local wallet shortly after. Admittedly this was very quick by Vave’s standards, but I’ve never had to wait more than a couple of hours bar a couple of situations explained below.

I do remember my first withdrawal taking overnight to be approved. It was also a weekend which may factor into the delay.

I also experienced a withdrawal delay when I withdrew to a different LTC address than I’ve used with Vave previously. So try to always use the same address to withdraw to in order to minimise delays.

Vave has been very solid for me so don’t give up on them yet.

Ok well 27 hours and both of my withdraws are still pending. Live Chat is 100% useless they keep repeating the same thing. "you have to wait in line in the queue"

This now means I will not play at Vave casino ever again. I refuse to play at any casino that do not process withdraws within an hour.

I am totally pissed of right now. I am currently in live chat again right now as I type this and they keep fobbing me off with the same excuses.

I have now informed them if they do not get approved in the next hour then I will never play at your casino again.

EDIT: I now just sent an email to support@vave lets see if that helps.

 

[misstrouble]

Double post sorry

 

[misstrouble]

I've been playing unregulated for years. First stake and rollbit. Now moved to Shuffle.

They pay out almost instantly too.

 

[DreamRJ]

I've been playing unregulated for years. First stake and rollbit. Now moved to Shuffle.

They pay out almost instantly too.

Ok well because vave has still not processed my 2 withdraws I will do Betpanda next. Vave has now lost me as a customer.

I might check out those you mentioned as well.

 

[satchnz]

Ok well because vave has still not processed my 2 withdraws I will do Betpanda next. Vave has now lost me as a customer.

I might check out those you mentioned as well.

All I can do from this point is to wish you luck. You'll have to prepare yourself for hurdles like this when playing with crypto at offshore casinos. Wait for the wild crypto fluctuations that reduce the value of your coins!

Vave is one of the better crypto casinos out there. Betpanda has gimped RTPs and is therefore not worth the risk of playing offshore for this reason.

Good luck!

 

[Guntis]

All I can do from this point is to wish you luck. You'll have to prepare yourself for hurdles like this when playing with crypto at offshore casinos. Wait for the wild crypto fluctuations that reduce the value of your coins!

Vave is one of the better crypto casinos out there. Betpanda has gimped RTPs and is therefore not worth the risk of playing offshore for this reason.

Good luck!

I still believe that if he had canceled both payouts and sent them in one go, then all would have gone smoother. It's just from my own experience.

Also, it's a good practice when playing at casinos that have withdrawal fees as there is no point in paying them twice.

 

[DreamRJ]

Yeah I did expect issues, I finally got them approved, Got money in my Kraken and just sold 4.0 Litecoin for euro. Great news also was that LiteCoin rallied today so I made profit from that as well

Can I ask which withdraw option I use to my bank? I have 4 options? which one is faster?

EDIT: Nevermind,, I did a google search and it said FPS was fasted way, so I just used that. Lets see how long it takes.

 

[DreamRJ]

Ok got the money now in my bank

Super fast, happy days..... Fees was £4 for the withdraw lol but I am not that bothered about that, just happy now.

It was not to difficult, at least now I know how to do everything

Thanks again everyone for all the help as well, I just did a deposit also to BetPanda as well, just waiting for the funds to arrive so I can play some ELK their

 

[Guntis]

Nice one! But why you sold your 4.0 LTC for EUR instead of GBP? If that was your plan, then that's alright. Otherwise, you lose a bit on EUR to GBP currency conversions before the funds hit your UK bank in GBP.

 

[DreamRJ]

Nice one! But why you sold your 4.0 LTC for EUR instead of GBP? If that was your plan, then that's alright. Otherwise, you lose a bit on EUR to GBP currency conversions before the funds hit your UK bank in GBP.

I sold Litecoin for GBP not euro

 

[slot_zombie]

Ok got the money now in my bank

Super fast, happy days..... Fees was £4 for the withdraw lol but I am not that bothered about that, just happy now.

It was not to difficult, at least now I know how to do everything

Thanks again everyone for all the help as well, I just did a deposit also to BetPanda as well, just waiting for the funds to arrive so I can play some ELK their

Stay off the Hacksaws on BP. I don't know why they are gimped, could even be a mistake, but anyway they are.

 

[DreamRJ]

So another deposit and purchase of Litecoin I just did again has been held for 72 hours in Kraken. I googled it and it said that not just first deposit and purchase could get a hold. So it appears now that every deposit and purchase of litecoin I do I get a 72 hour hold.

If this keeps happening I will have to find another wallet that does not keep holding funds for 72 hours, this is a disgrace.....

EDIT: So basically it is because I deposited with PayPal - it is every single deposit you make even if you use PayPal balance which I always do.

So it now means I have no choice but to do Manual deposit from now on using Clear Junction(FPS)

It seriously is a fucking joke that 72 hour holding period. It is criminal.

 

[Guntis]

So another deposit and purchase of Litecoin I just did again has been held for 72 hours in Kraken. I googled it and it said that not just first deposit and purchase could get a hold. So it appears now that every deposit and purchase of litecoin I do I get a 72 hour hold.

If this keeps happening I will have to find another wallet that does not keep holding funds for 72 hours, this is a disgrace.....

EDIT: So basically it is because I deposited with PayPal - it is every single deposit you make even if you use PayPal balance which I always do.

So it now means I have no choice but to do Manual deposit from now on using Clear Junction(FPS)

It seriously is a fucking joke that 72 hour holding period. It is criminal.

For me on Kraken, it shows that top-ups with PayPal cost a 2.4% fee. So i wouldn't choose it.

Skrill in this case has a 2% fee for the complete process and less fuck abouts like buying crypto and then waiting for 72h...

You simply need to:

- top up your Skrill balance
- then click Transfer, and then Withdraw to Crypto Wallet
- choose a crypto currency
- Enter an amount to transfer
- and that's it.

Next steps and possible winning scenario

- Visit BTG Bonanza thread
- Find seasoned, professional Bonanza players
- Ask about when to play, how much to start with, and when to expect the D letter to land, etc
- Hit the GOLD 4-letter combination
- Wait till the multiplier reaches at least 20x
- Cash the winnings out to Kraken and buy something worthy.

 

[satchnz]

Seems pointless to convert smaller amounts of crypto to cash if you are only going to be crypto gambling again. In fact I’ve never converted crypto to cash. All my winnings go back into my local wallet to be used for future sessions.

 

[Guntis]

Yeah, definitely! There is no point in sending all to a GBP wallet and then 2 hours later deciding again to buy some crypto to play.

It's more optimal to send some of the winnings straight to another casino to try instead of buying again and then sending crypto from place to place.

 

[slot_zombie]

For me on Kraken, it shows that top-ups with PayPal cost a 2.4% fee. So i wouldn't choose it.

Skrill in this case has a 2% fee for the complete process and less fuck abouts like buying crypto and then waiting for 72h...

You simply need to:

- top up your Skrill balance
- then click Transfer, and then Withdraw to Crypto Wallet
- choose a crypto currency
- Enter an amount to transfer
- and that's it.

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Next steps and possible winning scenario

- Visit BTG Bonanza thread
- Find seasoned, professional Bonanza players
- Ask about when to play, how much to start with, and when to expect the D letter to land, etc
- Hit the GOLD 4-letter combination
- Wait till the multiplier reaches at least 20x
- Cash the winnings out to Kraken and buy something worthy.

You forgot

- As soon as you win, up your bet to £10 then £20 like @dunover which yields spectacular results every time when measured over a "season"...

 

[DreamRJ]

For me on Kraken, it shows that top-ups with PayPal cost a 2.4% fee. So i wouldn't choose it.

Skrill in this case has a 2% fee for the complete process and less fuck abouts like buying crypto and then waiting for 72h...

You simply need to:

- top up your Skrill balance
- then click Transfer, and then Withdraw to Crypto Wallet
- choose a crypto currency
- Enter an amount to transfer
- and that's it.

View attachment 196059

Next steps and possible winning scenario

- Visit BTG Bonanza thread
- Find seasoned, professional Bonanza players
- Ask about when to play, how much to start with, and when to expect the D letter to land, etc
- Hit the GOLD 4-letter combination
- Wait till the multiplier reaches at least 20x
- Cash the winnings out to Kraken and buy something worthy.

Yeah thanks but I do not wanna use Skrill again. Will just do manual deposit in Kraken from now on.

 

[ritae]

If you play at 500 Casino (the one with the numbers) it would seem they have been warned by British authorities recently (maybe UKGC) about UK players.

Apart from their site now being geoblocked, a few in their chat have been restricted to withdraw only mode.

Will be interesting to see if they outright ban known UK players or go down the BC Game route of geoblocking and not caring who plays.

 

[satchnz]

If you play at 500 Casino (the one with the numbers) it would seem they have been warned by British authorities recently (maybe UKGC) about UK players.

Apart from their site now being geoblocked, a few in their chat have been restricted to withdraw only mode.

Will be interesting to see if they outright ban known UK players or go down the BC Game route of geoblocking and not caring who plays.

I was recently told this by someone else, then read some online accounts of these issues, so withdrew my remaining balance this morning. Will give this place a miss for now. It’s a shame as it is a decent casino otherwise.

 

[SlotGrinder]

I'm a UK player and I used to play (and lose) a lot more than I do now
It's a shame because they really took the fun out of it. I used to play turbo spins and autoplay and now I have to sit there clicking and waiting 3 seconds between spins. Especially on a lot of modern slots where it's mostly just waiting for a bonus to hit - slot playing just becomes more frustration than fun these days.
On the other hand, I do play less because of it ... so in one way that is good for my bank balance. Then again, the rtp is worse on a lot of slots now
Generally, they kind of killed slot playing for me. Not sure if that was their intention

 

[slot_zombie]

I was recently told this by someone else, then read some online accounts of these issues, so withdrew my remaining balance this morning. Will give this place a miss for now. It’s a shame as it is a decent casino otherwise.

It looks like a really good casino, love the layout, game selection and and colour scheme.

Unfortunately the Bandit has probably brought too much attention on their heads. Smaller, less visible outfits may be the way forward..

 

[ritae]

Seen a couple of posts on the Bandits forum and Reddit in the last 24 hours. Chat support says no UK players are allowed on 500 Casino now. They have also removed the UK from the KYC page so you're screwed if you try to open a new account and verify.

I have tested a few other lesser-known crypto sites over the weekend - all of them VPN friendly and zero KYC required. They worked fine and withdrawals were done within a few hours.

One I'm not sure about is Telegram Casino. They claim no KYC but they clearly mark the UK as excluded in terms and conditions.

 

[Guntis]

If you're playing at casinos on Telegram, remember to check whether you're playing at their proper versions. It adds a bit of trust if they also have a browser-based version, but it doesn't mean they are 100% trustworthy. Check Reddit or Bitcointak to see what people say before playing. But beware of shills.

Also, take Google results with a pinch of salt. A lot of stuff out there, especially on gambling-unrelated websites, are just AI-created parasite pages by people who've never played a casino game.

 

[justdoit]

Revolut Bank now they taking other crypto as deposit&Withdraw on Ravolut account, I did USDT withdraw not long ago to my revolut account, I try to make deposit from Revolut to casino last week all the BS regulation pop up my account got frozen for 2 hrs lol

 

[EkJR]

Revolut Bank now they taking other crypto as deposit&Withdraw on Ravolut account, I did USDT withdraw not long ago to my revolut account, I try to make deposit from Revolut to casino last week all the BS regulation pop up my account got frozen for 2 hrs lol

Revolut block you from sending USDT/ETH and USDC after the first one to any crypto casino. I got completely blocked for 4 days after sending USDT and the addresses were permanently blocked. BTC seems to work but fees are quite hefty at times. You can still receive USDT etc to Revolut though...just get blocked from sending.

 

[justdoit]

Revolut block you from sending USDT/ETH and USDC after the first one to any crypto casino. I got completely blocked for 4 days after sending USDT and the addresses were permanently blocked. BTC seems to work but fees are quite hefty at times. You can still receive USDT etc to Revolut though...just get blocked from sending.

I withdraw €4k (USDT) they charger me like €32 is not bed, still cheaper then wallet, Coinbase charger €50 for €1k