Thanks ksech the information you provided is correct.
Star12War, we did respond to your last email and in answer to your other questions, when you hit the jackpot you still had not met the wagering requirements so the total amount was not cashable at that stage. You increased your balance considerably by increasing your bet to $20.
vinylweatherman, gambling grumbles did not publish all the information by our request.
Best Regards
Ms Sloto
This is a bit "new". Opinion seemed to be that the win was the RJ, and no benefit was gained from the later wagering at $20. Things are different if the mistake lead to substantial benefits that would not have been realised had the bets remained at $6.
The Gambling Grumbles case seems to reveal that Gambling Grumbles DO withhold information that an operator has given them. I thought that they said they will publish what they use in deciding the case, which is why many operators just don't cooperate, and we end up with rather one sided presentations. They certainly DID publish the details of the playing patterns, that it was $50 to start, reducing to $20 to finish off the WR after a substantial gain. It is also pointed out that this was not against the bonus terms at the time, although it would be now.
The current case, although in breach of the terms, is still being dealt with by confiscation of EVERYTHING, whereas confiscation should be got rid of in favour of some other sanction, even if that is 100x WR on the illicit proceeds of a breach of terms, followed by a bonus ban.
It is the headline "winnings confiscated" that shows the industry in a bad light, and makes other players wary who only see what they are allowed to see about the issue, which may not be the whole story. "winnings adjusted to reflect a breach" is less emotive, and thus less damaging to the industry.
The other case is worrying because an operator can claim a winning player is a "professional gambler", and void winnings purely on this basis. To others, it just looks like once you get too savvy, you are deemed a professional for no reason other than you have played well, not because you actually treat gambling as your profession. Any experienced player, even though they treat it as a hobby, even when it takes up a major portion of their time, is at risk of arbitrarily being deemed a professional once they reach a certain standard in their ability to play and manage their bankroll.
In fact, A level maths (pre university standard, equivalent to "high school") is enough knowledge to beat the house when promotions are taken into account. A degree in maths is enough to not get CAUGHT doing it.
They say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", and this seems the case when players en masse follow a strategy posted on some major bonus hunting website, making them all appear to be part of a syndicate, even if all they are is followers of the same published strategy.
With a little more knowledge, you would NOT play by rote a published strategy that everybody else is being told to try, and from which the affiliate producing the site stands to pocket more commission the more players they can attract to try said strategy where they "cannot lose".
If I had read that complaint, yet Sloto had NOT added a $6.50 max bet term, the LAST thing I would do is try the same kind of strategy, even if I knew it could work. If anything, I would try the reduced lines strategy, but not like the OP using the wrong slot
If I hit big, I would stick at the $6 level, knowing that a drop to around a third of the starting bet might be viewed as "grinding out WR".
The other thing I try to do is avoid winning from the SUB, so I play a pretty conservative game then, and usually bust out. This means I am NOT choosing a casino based on how big the SUB is, but on how well loyalty seems to be rewarded. Unfortunately, only a minority seem to appreciate regular players to anything approaching the degree with which they seem to appreciate new players taking on the SUB.
The Sloto SUB is too big, and too complicated, and there is little sign of what comes beyond the first 7 deposits. You can get their "VIP bonus" of 400% up to $2000 by nothing more than depositing $500 in one go, and at a stage where the casino has no idea who you are, a genuine high roller, or someone who will advantage play that bonus, and never return. They STILL don't know if the player wins from the bonus, because if they get the run around because they are thought to be going to "hit & run", it will be a self fulfilling prophesy because they WILL run because they got messed around after winning, rather than it being their intent all along.
I also noted that their is a slots bonus that bans "Real Series video slots", which is almost ALL of the slots one now finds in an RTG casino. There used to be around half a dozen "classic slots", but around half of these got pulled a few years ago, and nothing new in that range has been released since. It would seem that such a bonus would be valid on only 4 games out of over 100 on offer.
) have pointed out ad infinitum in this thread, if they make an exception for you in this case they would be setting a president for loads of other players to "accidentally" break the rules and expect to get those rules waived because you "got away with it" so why can't they?
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