vinylweatherman
You type well loads
- Joined
- Oct 14, 2004
- Location
- United Kingdom
Sorry if you see threatening legal action by disputing transactions with your bank as a threat to chargeback. The only terms I have read regard charging back transactions; not diputing. You can stop the dispute process at any time. If it takes responding to the lack of payment after 3+ months with a statement that it has been long enough, too many excuses regarding lack of payment and if payment is not received within X amount of time, you will be forced to take further action; then so be it.
Why do members continue to side with a Casino Group they say is "rougued" and don't even deposit at, and that they know has had past issues in the last 6 months paying winners? You claim people who have played and have won and are now posting their experience are doing a disservice to all other players because the casino group is rouged. I say they are doing everyone a service by commenting on their experiences. So why are you attacking those that make comments on their experience, instead of attacking the casino or attempting to offer members assistance like other player forums I belong to instead of bad mouthing your fellow members?
this is a reason I am very close to leaving this forum for good. Many members have no intention of helping other members. they call them liars, accuse them unfairly of being deceptive and trying to only help themselves; while all the time responding to threads when the thread has nothing to do with them and then instead of offering advise from their experiences, decide to badmouth the poster and others that truly are making comments that are answering the poster questions.
I am not at wrong and the fact that other member continually assualt my comments, twist my comments and make untruthful comments about what I say; leads me to believe that nobody is actually arbitrating members comments on this website. Period. I will continue to help other member that P.M. me regarding their need for assistance and information regarding their non-payment be the Rushmore Group. As far as those that continually attack me; go right ahead because I could careless about your lies and am happy when I can help those that send me pm's for assistance. It is obvious why they won't post their request for help on the thread. The don't what to be attacked and belittled.
I never said never (as James Bond might say), but threatening a chargeback, or even initiating a process that could lead to one, is considered serious enough for one to be kicked out of CM by Bryan. The "nuclear option" is a weapon you just have, you never use it, nor even threaten to use it in a specific dispute. It is just something that exists, just as casinos know that their achillies heel is the chargeback procedure, especially in the case of the US. This is why you often find the FIRST sanction imposed by a casino is the refund of the deposit. They know that not doing this leaves them vulnerable to a chargeback.
Bluffing that you will initiate a process you cannot (legal timeout) is considered blackmail, and even if justified morally, is frowned upon.
A better way is to allow the casino to get the feeling that they might be taking a bigger risk than they are, but without directly issuing a specific threat. One way is to ask whether you have run out of dispute options and should seek advice from elsewhere.
I have seen many US facing casinos drop themselves right in it without the player saying a word, let alone making a threat. The "pass the buck" policy is to blame, and where payments fail to arrive, casinos try to blame the bank, and even tell players to pick a fight with their bank for not crediting the wire, rather than the casino not sending it. You just say "will do that, thanks", and sign off.
I can just imagine the supervisor finding out, and saying "you advised the player to do WHAT" since the LAST thing they want is a players' bank doing a reverse lookup on the path of a missing wire, and finding out it is related to gambling. Often, this has lead to the bank opening a full investigation on ALL recent transactions of a similar nature, and the bank could (and has in some cases) take it upon themselves to run a bulk chargeback because the transactions are illegal under UIGEA, rather than because the customer got screwed.
This also causes several varieties of grief for the player, as the bank will often throw them out, and may even blacklist them. On top of this, the industry will rate the player as high risk, and they could end up banned from a wide variety of casinos, including ones that they are perfectly happy with.
It doesnt really matter whether it was Lojo or Lotso or whether the hunch was correct for that matter. Unless Lojo had access to the accounts of Rushmore its not possible to foresee they were underfunded. However, they were very active with promos and freerolls, eg $10k freerolls and that 's not really a good sign. I was once told that banks who offer high interest rates are usually in deep shit and this might also apply to casinos who offer too much to be true.
which turned out to be true when Icelandic banks offered far higher savings rates than anyone else, and it was not just individuals that got burned, it was local authorities, charities, and even the Church of England that lost the bulk of their funds.