Your Input Please Removal of Auto Spins with UKGC

Should Autoplay be removed?

  • Yes Completely

    Votes: 8 7.1%
  • No

    Votes: 97 86.6%
  • Reduce to 25 Auto Spin Batches

    Votes: 8 7.1%

  • Total voters
    112

Kroffe

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I have used it before for multiboxing on world of warcraft but my mate provided the scripts, Am not a programmer but a simple script for auto clicking cant be that tricky to work out, could also probably create scripts to automate bonus rounds as well (for freeroll battles)
From the little i looked at, just a simple "clicker" script seemed really easy to set up yourself, even with no prior knowledge about writing scripts.
Probably gets a bit trickier if you want to automate bonuses aswell.
 

09237653

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From the little i looked at, just a simple "clicker" script seemed really easy to set up yourself, even with no prior knowledge about writing scripts.
Probably gets a bit trickier if you want to automate bonuses aswell.

Probably fairly easy to do but you'd need a different script for each game.
 

bamberfishcake

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Its crazy because i cant count better than my computer whilst watching the reels and handling life's distractions.

People will lose track easier, simple. I fail to see the logic to be honest.

I imagine it will cut profits yet do nothing to help problem gamblers.

They are taking away a feature that helps gamblers i think. Like has been pointed out - It makes you think about budget and limit - How many spins do i want in this slot and how much will i spend?

Maybe they have been reading to much CM and think everyone plays Bonanza on auto for days on end.
 

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I miss the good old days majority of UKGC rules are dumb, some OK which actually help the player but a lot of it is controlling to the point it's not even fun
 

Masquerade67

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I have used it before for multiboxing on world of warcraft but my mate provided the scripts, Am not a programmer but a simple script for auto clicking cant be that tricky to work out, could also probably create scripts to automate bonus rounds as well (for freeroll battles)
Haha - they don't like that very much these days. I used to get ganked quite a lot with my Priest/Mage in Western Plaguelands where the quest mobs could be spawned en masse by others to attack the nearest player (ie. me !!)

I use Karabiner (not sure whether there's a PC version) but that can translate the click event into multiple keypresses to different targets.
 

bamberfishcake

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Can you get an auto clicker that can stop after losing a certain amount?

Thats the difference that i can see. Autospin allows control of budget and loss. I can see how they may want to encourage gamblers to focus on budget and what each spin means financially but i dont think they have really thought this through.

The removal will take away a control measure for some and now force them to focus on the bright lights, teases and tricks built into games to entice you into one more spin.
 

Kroffe

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Can you get an auto clicker that can stop after losing a certain amount?

Thats the difference that i can see. Autospin allows control of budget and loss. I can see how they may want to encourage gamblers to focus on budget and what each spin means financially but i dont think they have really thought this through.

The removal will take away a control measure for some and now force them to focus on the bright lights, teases and tricks built into games to entice you into one more spin.
Would probably be a bit tricky, but not impossible, to set a losslimit.
Its easy to set a number of clicks tho, so you can limit it that way instead.

Most providers have somewhere between 100-1000 autospins available as options (for the swedish market) but i rarely ever do more than 25-50 at a time.
I think its easier to keep track that way.
 

colinsunderland

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Would probably be a bit tricky, but not impossible, to set a losslimit.
Its easy to set a number of clicks tho, so you can limit it that way instead.

Most providers have somewhere between 100-1000 autospins available as options (for the swedish market) but i rarely ever do more than 25-50 at a time.
I think its easier to keep track that way.
Not sure doing a loss limit would be possible, well certainly not within the limitations of most people's coding skills. You would need to be able to pull data from the accounting system of the casino, or pull the bet/return data as it's going to/from the game provider, which, considering how highly encrypted it should be, is unlikely to be possible in my view.
 

Masquerade67

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Not sure doing a loss limit would be possible, well certainly not within the limitations of most people's coding skills. You would need to be able to pull data from the accounting system of the casino, or pull the bet/return data as it's going to/from the game provider, which, considering how highly encrypted it should be, is unlikely to be possible in my view.

I did start trying to re-create my own 'Goonies server' - just as proof that you could create a tailor made session to simulate Roshtien and Co.

The data is certainly passing through from server >> client. I just need time :) (I use 'Fiddler' to decrypt the HTTPS). I did start talking about this elsewhere. It seemed like a good idea but I enjoyed playing the game itself too much.

<SpinResult symInView=“6,2,6|1,6,2|6,0,10|0,3,5|0,4,4”>
<LineWin line=“4” winSym=“6” payout=“20” winnings=“0.40” reelIndex=“0,1,2” rowIndex=“2,1,0” posIndex=“2,4,6” linePosIndex=“2,4,6,10,14” containsWild=“False” />
<LineWin line=“7” winSym=“6” payout=“20” winnings=“0.40” reelIndex=“0,1,2” rowIndex=“0,1,0” posIndex=“0,4,6” linePosIndex=“0,4,6,10,12” containsWild=“False” />
<ScatterInfo type=“10” index=“0” count=“1” column=“2” row=“2” />
</SpinResult>
 

Kroffe

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Not sure doing a loss limit would be possible, well certainly not within the limitations of most people's coding skills. You would need to be able to pull data from the accounting system of the casino, or pull the bet/return data as it's going to/from the game provider, which, considering how highly encrypted it should be, is unlikely to be possible in my view.
I figured it would be possible to pull your balance amount from the website somehow, but maybe thats not possible.
I mean, shouldnt you be able to pull most numbers that are visible on the screen?

Either way, its just like you say, a much more advanced thing compared to just setting up to click a certain number of times and setting a "loss limit" that way instead.
 

Spikie

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Out of interest I just tried playing a random megaways game with no auto spin ..

It’s soul destroying.

All the auto spin ban will do is force providers into making “all action” games with little to no base game , and £2 power spins for the bonus just like the bookies slots that the UKGC were so against .
 
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Kroffe

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Out of interest I just tried playing a random megaways game with no auto spin ..

It’s soul destroying.

All the auto spin ban will do is force providers into making “all action” games with little to no base game , and £2 power spins for the bonus just like the bookies slots that the UKGC were so against .
Agree to disagree.
I mostly play without using auto spins.

I mean, why play slots if you dont want to actually play the slot apart from watching the bonus.
Imo its like setting a videogame on auto and just come back for the bossfights, makes no sense to me.

Also, everyone knows that manual spins adds 4.3% to the rtp.
 

Spikie

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Maybe there needs to be a whole rethink of the way slots are designed then , instead of waiting 2000 spins for some scatters to drop in ( anyhow why are they still called scatters after all these years), make the games more interesting throughout...

A lot of games are programmed for the autoplay market.
 

Kroffe

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Maybe there needs to be a whole rethink of the way slots are designed then , instead of waiting 2000 spins for some scatters to drop in ( anyhow why are they still called scatters after all these years), make the games more interesting throughout...

A lot of games are programmed for the autoplay market.
Yeah, i agree that Megaways slots get a bit tedious when spinning manually, since most have around 300ish spins on average to hit a feature.

But there are exceptions imo.
Like Wish upon a jackpot megaways, or some of the other blueprint ones that gives you mini features every so often.
They are alot nicer to spin manually on compared to other megaways that have all the focus on the bonus.
 

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Agree to disagree.
I mostly play without using auto spins.

I mean, why play slots if you dont want to actually play the slot apart from watching the bonus.
Imo its like setting a videogame on auto and just come back for the bossfights, makes no sense to me.

Also, everyone knows that manual spins adds 4.3% to the rtp.
I generally don't play auto spins my self allbeit 90%of my play time is on mobile but I just don't see the logic of grinding a slot on auto spins.
2 reasons for playing auto spins IMHO are gambling bores the shite out of ya or your a streamer..
 

colinsunderland

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I generally don't play auto spins my self allbeit 90%of my play time is on mobile but I just don't see the logic of grinding a slot on auto spins.
2 reasons for playing auto spins IMHO are gambling bores the shite out of ya or your a streamer..
I play single line a lot of the time, usually 3 or 4 games at once.
I would find the opposite of what you say. Playing them without auto play would bore me to death. You can easily go over 50 spins without a win, clicking like that would make me sleep. I don't even play like that on casinos where you can't play more than one as it bores me with autospins. At least having 3 going at the same time it keeps you active watching all 3 at once.
 

irish-ranger

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I play single line a lot of the time, usually 3 or 4 games at once.
I would find the opposite of what you say. Playing them without auto play would bore me to death. You can easily go over 50 spins without a win, clicking like that would make me sleep. I don't even play like that on casinos where you can't play more than one as it bores me with autospins. At least having 3 going at the same time it keeps you active watching all 3 at once.
Actually I found my self during the bonanza comp sitting at home with the mobile/laptop and tablet all auto spinning for 4hrs which cost me £250..
Until I caught my self on and for me this is one of the dangers of using auto spins..
 
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