Your Input Please Removal of Auto Spins with UKGC

Should Autoplay be removed?

  • Yes Completely

    Votes: 8 6.9%
  • No

    Votes: 101 87.1%
  • Reduce to 25 Auto Spin Batches

    Votes: 8 6.9%

  • Total voters
    116

electronictonic

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I said in 2016 that with the constant strangling of the market all the casinos will leave the UK until all that will be left is the big UK bookies and the time is coming, soon we will have 2 choices, bitcoin casinos or a friend in another country letting us play through his computer via Team Viewer remote desktop connection. Go ahead and remove autoplay, people can just download an autoclicker which renders it pointless.
 
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Casinomeister

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@Casinomeister now is the time to get in discussion/negotiations with a curacao casino getting accredited for when the time comes U.K. based players end up their,
If we had casinos that were properly run there (respected Gamblock, no fake games, no dodgy business practices, proper tools for players to control their gambling i.e. deposit loss limits) then there would be possibilities. At the moment, I don't see any.

There are in fact some excellent properties in Curacao (iNetbet, Intertops, Legends, etc.) but they aren't taking UK bets.
 

CasinoNinja

Non-Gambler
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Apr 27, 2017
Location
UK
Prebuying spins sounds stupid anyway, if I autoplay and hit a feature I might want to end it there instead of keep playing?
 

lewisnadasurf

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Jun 11, 2008
Location
Earth
I would love to know who these gamblers are who they speak to, as they have no idea what the majority want most the time.

They probably dont speak to normal punters at all. They probably only speak to problem gamblers (which UKGC think we all are/or will turn into without their genius ideas) to identify what their triggers are.

Im waiting for the time you can only buy one beer at a time and you're breathalysed during purchase. because you MIGHT turn into an alcoholic you know.
 

Lemon

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I was not aware that they are mostly made up from those with gambling issues. I would have hoped that they had found gamblers from a wider spectrum.
The UKGC seems to have become so large that it appears to me almost akin to a casino's live help in as much as only major issues filter up to the top so the top rarely get to know what the basic problems are
I fully agree with this - the UKGC also need to hear the voice of the ordinary punter who treats gambling like the fun pastime it is marketed to be. All they're getting is feedback from embittered ex-players who couldn't control their gambling and now have an axe to grind. There's too much bias in this campaign and they are fighting for the minority, at the expense of the vast majority.
 

Mr Wild

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Mar 10, 2015
Location
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Sorry but I completely disagree with that approach. Attempting to circumvent regulations never ends well, either they will ban that option within weeks, or they will respond with even tighter regulation.

The whole ethos of the UKGC recently seems to be massively limit players

Ban bonus buys
Loss limits on auto spins
Max 100 auto spins
Cash separate to bonuses

then the rumored changes

£100 mandatory loss limit per month
A limit on time spent playing
£2 max stake

There is no way on earth they will allow you to tie a player into a 100 x stake up front buying spins, and even less likely, allowing them to auto play.

Well, the only thing they would listen to is to players. But not enough players are getting together to do something about it all.
 

Davey86

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Shame all gambling community’s can’t come together as one voice to speak out together

doesn’t matter what you say EVERYONES in it for the same thing either as a gambler or affiliate
 

colinsunderland

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Well, the only thing they would listen to is to players. But not enough players are getting together to do something about it all.
Hence my comments earlier about casinos doing a pop up on entry survey. Doesn't have to be long, just a few questions with a tick box, then a submit button. There's no way player communities have enough players to influence a decision that has already been made.
However, if 20 casinos, with maybe 5 million players between them did it and showed 96% of customers thought it a bad idea, they would struggle to ignore it, with the right marketing.
Would Videoslots take part in it if it did happen?
 

Deeplay

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Thing is the UKCG are now set on destroying UK online gaming. But surley this gives a perfect opporunity for an offshore that is run in the right way. The potential with the right approach could be huge. But as CM said earlier no such places seem to exsist not for UK players at least. But someone or a company with foresight - surley could see the potential of a whole new market opening up - without fake games/ & with proper procedure for RG and so forth. TBH If I found an offshore casino that was 100% legit in all areas I would play there.
 

ZoeP

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I couldn't care less once my XP runs out on VS that is it for me and slots.

I'm sick to death of waiting hundreds if not thousands of spins to end up with a 5x bonuses which has happened about 30 to 40 times over the last two months, then add on all dead spins which is like 60 to 70 out of hundred, then add on not being able to get a base game win over 25x.

Don't get me started on all the freeroll battle n paid ones you can weeks n months n win naff all, more akin to playing the lottery

There is no point in playing slots with 92% to 94% at VS because the way their global RTP works is even if you play a 96%RTP slot it will still factor in all those lowered RTP slots so their overall take can swing as low as 88% to 96%.

I have never been more frustrated and sat there in disbelief at the utter crap i am watching play out in front of me.

I hope these Corporations including the Corporations of Government get found out for what they really are LEECHES.

Wish you all well for the future as this ship is sinking faster than the Titanic.
 

dealer wins

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Thing is the UKCG are now set on destroying UK online gaming. But surley this gives a perfect opporunity for an offshore that is run in the right way. The potential with the right approach could be huge. But as CM said earlier no such places seem to exsist not for UK players at least. But someone or a company with foresight - surley could see the potential of a whole new market opening up - without fake games/ & with proper procedure for RG and so forth. TBH If I found an offshore casino that was 100% legit in all areas I would play there.
Exactly like Pinnacle is for sports. As trustworthy as any UK bookmaker, no SOW shit, and no limiting or banning. Just a good old fashioned sportsbook.

We need the same for an online casino or 5, out of the way of the UKGC and their evilness.
 

Lemon

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There is no point in playing slots with 92% to 94% at VS because the way their global RTP works is even if you play a 96%RTP slot it will still factor in all those lowered RTP slots so their overall take can swing as low as 88% to 96%.
Well then if you want value for money just find all the high RTP% slots and play those only.
 

colinsunderland

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Thing is the UKCG are now set on destroying UK online gaming. But surley this gives a perfect opporunity for an offshore that is run in the right way. The potential with the right approach could be huge. But as CM said earlier no such places seem to exsist not for UK players at least. But someone or a company with foresight - surley could see the potential of a whole new market opening up - without fake games/ & with proper procedure for RG and so forth. TBH If I found an offshore casino that was 100% legit in all areas I would play there.
I agree
However, the games providers won't be able to serve the games to you, so you can forget about playing PlayNGo, Netent etc and you will be left with games from providers who don't have any UK licensing.
 

bamberfishcake

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For the first time since i started to enjoy slots im considering my options outside of the UKGC's nannying arms.

I really hope someone comes up with an autospin app or the casinos/providers find a way to combat/circumvent these stupid rules.
 

colinsunderland

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uk
For the first time since i started to enjoy slots im considering my options outside of the UKGC's nannying arms.

I really hope someone comes up with an autospin app or the casinos/providers find a way to combat/circumvent these stupid rules.
Just use a auto clicker. If it's a casino with a rep here, get permission.
Maybe a rep could explain why they are banned anyway?
 

Buffalo Bill

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I would like to hear from a casino as to wether an auto clicker would result in a voided withdrawal.
 

Lemon

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I hope they're going to be removing autoplay across the whole UK industry then? That's betting shops and Adult Gaming Centres, as well as B1 machines in casinos. Some older legacy games will no longer be supported and will have to be scrapped, physical autoplay buttons on cabinets in casinos will have to be disabled or blanked off.

If I can't play 100 spins automatically on 96.23% Fishin' Frenzy at 10p a spin online in my own home, I shouldn't be able to play 100 spins on 88% Fishin' Frenzy at 20p a spin in an AGC should I? Got to keep the punter safe...should be the same across all sectors of the industry.

Why drive punters into LBOs so they can catch COVID and play games at vastly inferior RTPs? I mean, you'll be limited to £100 losses online without SOW but you'll still be able draw a monkey out of the wall and row it through some hi-variance abomination on 91% at £2 a spin in a cramped betting-shop, surrounded by mouth-breathing neanderthals.

All because a bunch of fucking wet-wipes couldn't control their gambling so they have to take their ball home instead of taking responsibility for their own stupidity. I could understand it 30 years ago but today there's limitless information about safe gambling at everyone's fingertips, plus a whole bunch of responsible gambling tools. Not our fault they didn't use them.
 

Naok777

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Jun 11, 2015
Location
UK
Autoplay is already restricted in the UK (max 100 spins, have to set loss limit), so removing it is pointless.

Honestly, the UKGC just strikes me as wanting to be seen doing something (regardless of what that actually achieves).
If they really wanted to help problem gamblers then they should focus on the support available to problem gamblers to fix their brain rather than spamming new restrictions that have the value of raw donkey an*s steak and affect everyone.
 

nutnut

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Sep 11, 2014
Location
england
only reason BGT rep disappointed is now no one is insane enough to manually spin on his slots as you wait 4000 spins to hit a bonus.

bonanza rip

i will save a fortune as i will never play manual
 

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