Your Input Please Removal of Auto Spins with UKGC

Should Autoplay be removed?

  • Yes Completely

    Votes: 8 7.1%
  • No

    Votes: 97 86.6%
  • Reduce to 25 Auto Spin Batches

    Votes: 8 7.1%

  • Total voters
    112

ZoeP

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slight topic derail here but:

VS are not paying for the spins in the battles, its done with non existent money, they may be paying a small commission to the provider but they do not pay for the cost of the spins, if they were, using the lowest rtp games (as they usually do) it would end up costing them more.


Really? Costing More to VS?

How Many times have you or any other player hit the Top Win from FS at VS? NONE.

How may times do players in Freerolls hit the top? 10 hell maybe even a Hundred times more than real players do.

Very naive.

Just like when i i know they lowered the RTP but took them nearly 6 months to admit it on CM.
 

colinsunderland

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Really? Costing More to VS?

How Many times have you or any other player hit the Top Win from FS at VS? NONE.

How may times do players in Freerolls hit the top? 10 hell maybe even a Hundred times more than real players do.

Very naive.

Just like when i i know they lowered the RTP but took them nearly 6 months to admit it on CM.
I'm sorry, but unless you have access to the Videoslots backend, how would you know that?
 

lewisnadasurf

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I actually had a mini session yesterday and deliberately avoided using auto play.

After a while of 20p spins I actually got bored and INCREASED my stake to 60p as I was getting annoyed by how long it was taking. Click. Click. Click.

So well done UKGC on this well thought out rule.

Do they even ask real gamblers?!
 

Buffalo Bill

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I 100% agree that when spinning manually I’m more inclined to increase my stake.
I always use the auto play as a means to track how much ive played a slot and were my session returns are.
 

News Hound

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We've covered this over on Casino Gazette - the worry is, what other changes that some want the UKGC to impose. 2021 is going to be a bumpy ride for the UK Gambling Industry and players in the UK, that is for sure!

Online Slots in the Sights of the UK Regulator
 

Naok777

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And there isn't even any real cool off period between new restrictions to assess the impact they had... they just pile new restriction on new restriction.

I have a distinct feeling the only ones benefitting will be the Curacao no pay clip joints.
 

09237653

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Really? Costing More to VS?

How Many times have you or any other player hit the Top Win from FS at VS? NONE.

How may times do players in Freerolls hit the top? 10 hell maybe even a Hundred times more than real players do.

Very naive.

Just like when i i know they lowered the RTP but took them nearly 6 months to admit it on CM.

Its not naive its just basic maths and how RTP works, yes people hit the top wins in battles daily but many many other players end up with 20% or less it all adds up in the long run and will average out to the RTP of the game used, using the rise of Olympus battle currently up 5000 players x 100 spins that is half a million spins at an RTP of 94%, do half a million spins at 94% and you will not make a profit.
 

09237653

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BTG have more clout than any of us in this , I suggest they just ignore it , state that auto spins are an integral part of the games.
 

johnnybagel

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Didn't they say that they came up with all these regulatory changes by talking to a mix of people working in the industry, campaign groups, AND players? I'm not sticking up for them by the way, if i've got enough for a few hundred spins and only 15 minutes break it's easier to stick it on autoplay so it will be annoying to lose the feature, even though I don't always use it.
 

bamberfishcake

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Didn't they say that they came up with all these regulatory changes by talking to a mix of people working in the industry, campaign groups, AND players? I'm not sticking up for them by the way, if i've got enough for a few hundred spins and only 15 minutes break it's easier to stick it on autoplay so it will be annoying to lose the feature, even though I don't always use it.

You know how the UK runs...be seen to be consultative whilst behind the scenes drafting legislation and changing law to suit what they proposed in the first place.

They may have talked to players but i doubt they asked the right questions looking at the survey. The q's were very skewed towards getting feedback to support their claims. They can pass it off as democratic then.
 

dunover

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The thing is, I am a firm 'remainer' here. With autoplay you can also manage your loss limits and monitor performance. For example, set 100 spins with an aim of 75% RTP for the duration, stopping when either they expire at zero or £25 is lost. You also get autoplay on land-based and AWP games in the UK, are they going to remove that? Are they fuck.

I used to love setting up St*rcl*sters at Sky Vegas for 25 spins with a loss-limit of 10x bet, hoping to achieve 60% RTP over the 25 spins and failing on one occasion 29 consecutive times, finally doing it twice in 32 times. What joy it was, also doing the same on Bonanza and waiting for 4 or 5 tries each time to not lose the 10x bet in 10-13 spins.
 

Gam Blor

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I don't play anymore, but I would be interested to know why auto-clickers could get you into trouble with the casinos.

Another problem with an autoclicker. It's fine if you're in another room making a cup of tea, but if you're doing other stuff on the same PC, you're goosed. It'll only work on the PC if you're not doing anything else on it at the time.
 

Kroffe

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I don't play anymore, but I would be interested to know why auto-clickers could get you into trouble with the casinos.

Another problem with an autoclicker. It's fine if you're in another room making a cup of tea, but if you're doing other stuff on the same PC, you're goosed. It'll only work on the PC if you're not doing anything else on it at the time.
You can actually set up scripts that perform actions on a tab thats in the background.
Probably not an option for the most basic autoclickers, but i looked into it a bit when word started spreading about autoplay maybe being removed, and it seemed pretty straightforward and easy to do.

Of course you are missing out on all the extra options, like losslimit, stop on bonus etc.
But if all you want to do is to press the spin button on a tab thats in the background, its an easy fix.

Edit: I would recommend someting like this:
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09237653

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You can actually set up scripts that perform actions on a tab thats in the background.
Probably not an option for the most basic autoclickers, but i looked into it a bit when word started spreading about autoplay maybe being removed, and it seemed pretty straightforward and easy to do.

Of course you are missing out on all the extra options, like losslimit, stop on bonus etc.
But if all you want to do is to press the spin button on a tab thats in the background, its an easy fix.

I'm already looking into auto clicker solutions for when this comes into force, not found anything that will control multiple windows as of yet, found plenty that function on a single window but it needs to be in focus, a program called autohotkey may be the solution but not had a look at that yet.

If anybody knows of a solution that can autoclick multiple non focussed windows let us know, ideally contained so I can still use the mouse to browse while its happening in the background.
 

Kroffe

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I'm already looking into auto clicker solutions for when this comes into force, not found anything that will control multiple windows as of yet, found plenty that function on a single window but it needs to be in focus, a program called autohotkey may be the solution but not had a look at that yet.

If anybody knows of a solution that can autoclick multiple non focussed windows let us know, ideally contained so I can still use the mouse to browse while its happening in the background.
I edited my post to mention autohotkey since thats what ive been looking at aswell.
I know you can run scripts that perform actions on tabs in the background while you do other stuff.
Everything is open source, so with some google-fu you can probably find a script that can do what you want.
 

09237653

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I edited my post to mention autohotkey since thats what ive been looking at aswell.
I know you can run scripts that perform actions on tabs in the background while you do other stuff.
Everything is open source, so with some google-fu you can probably find a script that can do what you want.

I have used it before for multiboxing on world of warcraft but my mate provided the scripts, Am not a programmer but a simple script for auto clicking cant be that tricky to work out, could also probably create scripts to automate bonus rounds as well (for freeroll battles)
 

johnnymcc1966

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Talking to the casinos first as a few of them have recently added ex MP’s to their boards who could actually help is a brilliant idea from Colin I’d take that route first
Have the brown paper bags full of cash ready if you're trying to change the minds of former MPs,especially Tories.
 
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