Why is Sugar Rush so God-awful now?

[Valhalla]

Something has changed in this slot.
Used to be good fun to play, plenty of game time, lots of potential, good bonus game. Had some real nice wins on it (2000x bet several times).

Now no matter where I play it it is utter garbage. Doesn’t matter what I bet or which casino I play at, the base game is horse dung and the free spins are offensive. First 5 free spins or so are dead then a couple of small wins to activate a few x2 multipliers, then not much else and “you won 9x bet in 10 free spins” is pretty standard.

What’s also annoying is when you got 2 scatter before they would “hold” for a moment of excitement before dropping in the rest of the symbols. Now they just drop straight in with no tension. It’s only a small change but still, clearly if they can change that they can change other things.

Used to be one of my go-to slots as it was great fun. Now I only go to it when I’ve made a withdrawal and left some change to play with (which is usually slaughtered quickly).

Even The Bandit is complaining about it as he’s buying £2/300 bonuses and getting wins like £12, £19 and so on. Only streamers I’ve seen winning are those cheeky chappies, those regular Joes who can somehow buy £10,000 bonuses and post totally legit “record wins!” on their channels. Wombats.

 

[Jono777]

Not a regular player of this slot but defo changed and for the worse as you describe.

First noticed recently in VS battles. In fact all Pragmatic grid / cascading style games have had a surge of speed added to them.

Don't these things eat money fast enough as it was before the changes

 

[satchnz]

It has been what is commonly called “nerfed”.

I’m not exactly sure what the providers do when they nerf a slot. But it feels like when they release a new slot (which has supposedly been put through millions of simulated spins) and it gives too many intermediate wins, they change the payout profile so it gives slightly more really big wins (which most players never see), along with more really small wins (again not noticeable), while removing a lot of the intermediate wins. It is these intermediate wins that you notice have gone.

I’m only guessing, and others more knowledgeable in this space may know better, but that’s how it comes across for me at least.

Take Sugar Rush Xmas. When that first came out it had a decent base game with decent hits. Now it seems to play exactly like the original now plays like. Like what is the purpose of doing millions of simulated spins before release if they have to “tweak” it further?

 

[Jono777]

Never prove it but I'm convinced most slots are released at over 100% TRTP for a week or so to get players thinking along the lines of "This new game is great!"

Then "adjusted" to the original designed payout percentages.

Who knows, just my thoughts.

 

[Valhalla]

Never prove it but I'm convinced most slots are released at over 100% TRTP for a week or so to get players thinking along the lines of "This new game is great!"

Then "adjusted" to the original designed payout percentages.

Who knows, just my thoughts.

I think along these lines as well.
The game is great to begin with, gets people into it (like myself), then after a while they change it.

Had Sugar Rush been as garbage first time I played it as it is now, I would never have looked near it again. But because I’ve had loads of fun (and nice wins) on it, I keep going back to try it again. But it is demoralising to even sit for a few minutes on it - the game messes around for a little while with half-assed wins to keep you mildly interested, then honestly the bottom simply… falls out of it.
Dead spin, dead spin, dead spin. Yawn.

 

[Reelsoffun]

I'm not saying it hasn't changed, but for me it plays just as bad now as it always has......?

In so many threads of games that have been nerfed / changed I rarely see any change to what it used to play like for me so I' m baffled why this always seems the case for me but there you have it.

As for the comment about they are released higher RTP for the first week or so I'm not fully sure how online rules are but if its anything like land based UKGC rules then there is no law stopping them from doing so.

The law is clear that only the minimum expected RTP has to be displayed to players.

For example having a machine displaying 88% minimum on land based must have at least that set so if set on 90% it is perfectly legal, however having it set to 86% is illegal. It makes sense that online would fall under same UK rules, but i'm not 100% sure, but would totally explain what people are describing on new games.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Now? It always has been.

 

[slotmaster]

I have noticed a difference as well, don't play it as much now.

 

[mcgameboy]

It is god awful now because it was also god awful then. And I only played it when the highest RTP setting was available.

Piss poor base game play, piss poor feature triggering frequency, piss poor feature payouts

SHITE, SHITE AND MORE EFFING SHITE.

To sum up, it's SHITE.

At least Bonanza could claim that it USED to be good.

Sugar Rush? May as well set my money on fire or flush it down the bog. Unplayable hot garbage.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

It is god awful now because it was also god awful then. And I only played it when the highest RTP setting was available.

Piss poor base game play, piss poor feature triggering frequency, piss poor feature payouts

SHITE, SHITE AND MORE EFFING SHITE.

To sum up, it's SHITE.

At least Bonanza could claim that it USED to be good.

Sugar Rush? May as well set my money on fire or flush it down the bog. Unplayable hot garbage.

I had 20 spins ar 20p on an offer and it paid £2.13p. A couple of weeks ago the same offer paid me around £37 as I hit a bonus. I only ever risk a few spins but it is an awful paying game.

 

[slot_zombie]

I agree it's truly dreadful these days. And its clone Sugar Twist on 98% at Stake is also playing "worse".

If the RTP hasn't changed I don't understand how they can do it.

 

[justdoit]

I play 3 days ago on $3 bonus paid me $48

 

[satchnz]

The Big Bass games are exactly the same. When they were first released it wasn’t uncommon to progress through the various multiplier stages. These days it’s near impossible to get four fishermen.

Prags/RK are the worst for this behaviour.

 

[justdoit]

no idea how they make their games but for past 30 day no chance wining anything good on big bass or sugar rush,I get that feeling all game providers they make a game first 30 days they let ppl win, than RTP off than get as much money as you can

 

[thr0b]

Sugar Rush has always been really variable. Some great wins, but mostly not.

I have a different favourite Pragmatic right now. Consistently excellent bonuses. Just withdrew £90 from a bonus triggered in a £0.20 spin. Third time in a week.

I’m not telling you what it is. They’ll only fix it

 

[slotmaster]

Sugar Rush has always been really variable. Some great wins, but mostly not.

I have a different favourite Pragmatic right now. Consistently excellent bonuses. Just withdrew £90 from a bonus triggered in a £0.20 spin. Third time in a week.

I’m not telling you what it is. They’ll only fix it

Sugar Rush x-mas?

 

[thr0b]

One thing with Sugar Rush - the 94% version seems to get better bonuses, for me at least. Not a common thing with Pragmatics, but definitely a game I don’t mind dropping in on the reduced RTP version of.

 

[slot_zombie]

Bottom line with this game is that 10 spins is not generally enough and it's all over too quickly.

 

[sledge13]

Sugar Rush Xmas, missed the proper screenshot in the win excitement lol, got retriggers galore, 42 spins! 2600x win on 40p

Joyful when they land on the 128 x squares!

 

[Guntis]

I also quite like this game , had plenty of big wins like this today, sometimes even 4 similar amounts in a row from 100x bonus buy

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Sugar Rush has always been really variable. Some great wins, but mostly not.

I have a different favourite Pragmatic right now. Consistently excellent bonuses. Just withdrew £90 from a bonus triggered in a £0.20 spin. Third time in a week.

I’m not telling you what it is. They’ll only fix it

It's that Forges game,Forge of Olympus?

 

[Valhalla]

I also quite like this game , had plenty of big wins like this today, sometimes even 4 similar amounts in a row from 100x bonus buy


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That’s my experience of it lately, especially free spins (which I have to wait for since I’m playing under the UKGC).
Usually wastes half my very meagre 10 starting spins before it gets going. Then it’s too late anyway

 

[Mirko]

Sugar Rush i like the game

 

[Guntis]

That’s my experience of it lately, especially free spins (which I have to wait for since I’m playing under the UKGC).
Usually wastes half my very meagre 10 starting spins before it gets going. Then it’s too late anyway

The last week i played Sugar Rush, it mainly paid out less than 100x for most bonus buys, with some payouts ranging from 2x to 30x, even with re-triggers. A funny thing is when you increase your stake, for example, from €1 to €3 for a bonus buy, it seems as if the game knows that paying out at least 200x would recover most of your previous losses. I the future, i'll be avoiding Pragmatic's altogether.

 

[slot_zombie]

Possibly not a great time to mention the impending Sugar Rush 1000, with a 25000x Max Win and a Super Bonus (still 10 spins but the bonus round starts with random multipliers already populating every square) only available from the BUY option so UK is out of luck again.

Free spins frequency still 1 in 323 same as the original SR, but we can see from the published stats that the max win probability has fallen from just over 1 in 2.3 million to 1 in 12.3 million.