Venting Muertos Multiplier - another dirty slot from Pragmatic

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Valhalla

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Few games are more blatantly designed to rob you than Muertos Multiplier.
Wait a literal age for free spins to land (if they ever do), then you are almost invariably awarded the minimum possible (5 out of a possible 14), and given the opportunity to "gamble" your meagre bonus award for a single spin more. What on Earth? Why is it not double or nothing? A couple more, perhaps? No no, you waited all this time to get a slap in the face with 5 free spins but we've done that so you feel almost compelled to gamble them because let's be honest, 5 is crap and we all know it.

I've only ever once got more than 6 spins to begin with; when I was shocked to land on 12. But guess what? Yep, the first 6 spins were dead anyway so what was the bloody point? I could have gambled the 12 to get one more I suppose. Free spins are so hard to land in so many Pragmatic games, but then they trot out nonsense like this on top of things to make your bonus feel more like an insult anyway :rolleyes:

My guess is they are designed entirely with bonus buys in mind. Players will buy the bonus over and over, gambling to try to get 14 spins because only then do you really have a shot at a decent bonus result. Players like me (UKGC-licensed) don't stand a chance when 5 or 6 free spins is usual starting point. Good luck winning 8 or 9 gambles in a row for max free spins.
 
This sort of mechanic should be banned altogether.

Gambles as you describe fair enough or say like Extra Chilli where if you win you get at least 4 extra spins and its only less than a handful of gambles to reach the max spins possible, then players choice and a realistic reward if you win the gamble successfully.

This crap where you gain one spin and have to reach at least 12 spins IMO to stand a chance of a decent return is a piss take on top of an already existing pile of piss takes.

You only have to watch the Bandit's battle with this game to see how costly it can get within minutes.
 
This sort of mechanic should be banned altogether.

Gambles as you describe fair enough or say like Extra Chilli where if you win you get at least 4 extra spins and its only less than a handful of gambles to reach the max spins possible, then players choice and a realistic reward if you win the gamble successfully.

This crap where you gain one spin and have to reach at least 12 spins IMO to stand a chance of a decent return is a piss take on top of an already existing pile of piss takes.

You only have to watch the Bandit's battle with this game to see how costly it can get within minutes.
There's nothing funnier online than hearing the bandit lose his shit on this slot!
 
The Bandit has had some decent hits on it (like 1250x on a £2 buy) but by and large he’s spaffed fortunes just trying to acquire that magical 14 spin bonus.

I’ve also seen several times now he’s got to a huge multiplier (150 to 200) then all remaining spins are, predictably, dead. It’s a nasty game in keeping with the modern slotting dynamic.
 
Hi @Valhalla :)

Thank you for bringing your feedback to our attention.
Pragmatic Play offers a vast range of slots that caters to beginners, casual players and experienced users alike, all of whom have different preferences in terms of themes, features, volatility levels, etc.

Muertos Multiplier Megaways™ is a very high volatility game. Landing at least 3 bonus symbols in the base game will trigger the bonus round with a random number of free spins. The player can choose to collect the number of free spins initially awarded or gamble for more. The chance of winning a gamble ranges from 64.43% to 86.41%. The risk of losing all free spins is proportionate to the value of winning more. Some players enjoy this feature, others do not.

FYI the following slots include similar mechanics:
  • Beware The Deep Megaways™
  • 5 Frozen Charms
  • Rocket Blast Megaways™
  • Power of Merlin Megaways™
  • Mammoth Gold Megaways™
  • Spin & Score Megaways™

If you prefer sticking to the Megaways mechanics, then we'd like to recommend you to check out our recent release, Pompeii Megareel Megaways™, where each win in the bonus round is multiplied by the total number of winning symbols in the tumble. Blazing Wilds Megaways™ with its expanding wilds feature, and subsequent Multiplier, may also come to your attention, as might these upcoming games, based on your interest in Muertos Multiplier Megaways:
  • Fire Portals
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We feel that the above options may suit your game play better - please do not hesitate to contact us for further game related questions.

Thanks again for your feedback.
 
@Jelena_PragmaticPlay thanks for taking the time to respond. Respect.

The issue is that I like the idea of Muertos, but playing in the UK means I'm almost never going to see anything close to a good game. I'll never have a good experience on it. Triggering the bonus is far too difficult, and the free spins awarded far too often meagre.
Why does gambling free spins only add one more? That's really what gets me. I am almost invariably awarded 5 or (rarely) 6, and that just isn't enough.

High variance doesn't trouble me. My favourite games are: Danger High Voltage, Wild Unicorns, Dead or Alive 1 & 2, Tombstone RIP etc... but Muertos Multiplier is high variance with added insult :(
 
Saw Pompeii Megareel Megaways mentioned as a new game. Being in UK I can't buy bonuses anyway so doesn't affect me but I tried the game buying bonuses in demo.

Has anyone else played it if so could someone tell me if I am mistaken and missing something.

You can buy normal bonus for £20 on 20p stake or the enhanced bonus for £60 that doubles the multipliers.

Now having tried it several times if 8 symbols dissappear you get 8x multiplier. If on enhanced feature its 16x multiplier on all wins. But its not likenthe multiplier stays as each spin it starts again.

So I can not get why the enhanced bonus is 3x normal to buy. If you just buy the normal bonus and double stake it pays exact same as the enhanced bonus but cheaper.

An example. If you bet 20p and won 2.10 on a spin and it gave multiplier of 10x you would win £21. On enhanced feature that would be 20x so £42. So if you doubled stake to 40p win would be the same on normal bonus except you would have saved £20 on the bonus buy.

Like I say maybe I am missing something but no matter how many times I try itbworks out the same which means the enhanced bonus is just a complete rip off
 
Saw Pompeii Megareel Megaways mentioned as a new game. Being in UK I can't buy bonuses anyway so doesn't affect me but I tried the game buying bonuses in demo.

Has anyone else played it if so could someone tell me if I am mistaken and missing something.

You can buy normal bonus for £20 on 20p stake or the enhanced bonus for £60 that doubles the multipliers.

Now having tried it several times if 8 symbols dissappear you get 8x multiplier. If on enhanced feature its 16x multiplier on all wins. But its not likenthe multiplier stays as each spin it starts again.

So I can not get why the enhanced bonus is 3x normal to buy. If you just buy the normal bonus and double stake it pays exact same as the enhanced bonus but cheaper.

An example. If you bet 20p and won 2.10 on a spin and it gave multiplier of 10x you would win £21. On enhanced feature that would be 20x so £42. So if you doubled stake to 40p win would be the same on normal bonus except you would have saved £20 on the bonus buy.

Like I say maybe I am missing something but no matter how many times I try itbworks out the same which means the enhanced bonus is just a complete rip off

Pragmatic they start to copy nolimit city with super bonus buy, on pragmatic you have no chance to land super bonus coz they script on 3 scatter , in Nolimit is chance you land 5 scatter and get super bonus, Like you see all new big bass games are same script they just add extra bet on it, 100% rip off

 
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Pragmatic they start to copy nolimit city with super bonus buy, on pragmatic you have no chance to land super bonus coz they script on 3 scatter , in Nolimit is chance you land 5 scatter and get super bonus, Like you see all new big bass games are same script they just add extra bet on it, 100% rip off
Not sure if you have heard the rumour, but I hear that a five-scatter trigger on San Quentin has never been hit in standard play. Nor was it hit in testing :)

@LadyJelena nice reply to outline the alternatives and also the games that are similar - very helpful :thumbsup:

I wouldn't take the feedback personally, although they are justified in many ways, the deluge of extra bet features and unattainable super bonuses are not just a Pragmatic thing.

Seems most players just want a normal slot with no extra bet options, gamble features, or pie-in-the-sky bonuses that we can only witness on youtube. via streamers.

Which begs the question - if players don't want them, why are they becoming more prevalent? This is perhaps why most players think games like this are a con. There is always going to be a question or doubt that remains for a player when there are options on the table - nobody wants them except the casinos and developers.

Gimme a bog-standard slot with no fairyland frills and straightforward stats please :)
 
I like a lot of Pragmatic Games but always vote with my balance. If a slot doesn't pay after a certain number of spins,5-10 in my case I will either reload for another 5-10 and then move onto another game. If you keep grinding and grinding on any game you will lose everything much quicker.
 
Not sure if you have heard the rumour, but I hear that a five-scatter trigger on San Quentin has never been hit in standard play. Nor was it hit in testing :)

@LadyJelena nice reply to outline the alternatives and also the games that are similar - very helpful :thumbsup:

I wouldn't take the feedback personally, although they are justified in many ways, the deluge of extra bet features and unattainable super bonuses are not just a Pragmatic thing.

Seems most players just want a normal slot with no extra bet options, gamble features, or pie-in-the-sky bonuses that we can only witness on youtube. via streamers.

Which begs the question - if players don't want them, why are they becoming more prevalent? This is perhaps why most players think games like this are a con. There is always going to be a question or doubt that remains for a player when there are options on the table - nobody wants them except the casinos and developers.

Gimme a bog-standard slot with no fairyland frills and straightforward stats please :)
They are becoming more common as they prefer players to go apeshit on their balances.

They don't want a player, let's call him 'PlumpyPorkPie'.. Hammering away for two hours and breaking even on 20p bets.

What they actually want to do is mimic the live Casino environment where Evolution made insane amounts of money. Big bets = Big losses... But not very big wins in the feature buy scenario.

Think about it for a second...how many feature buys are running through those games at 100x each. If 50 of those lose, it's paid for a max win already.

Nate
 
Think about it for a second...how many feature buys are running through those games at 100x each. If 50 of those lose, it's paid for a max win already.
It would be interesting to know how many "average" players buy bonuses regularly.

At my level of play, 20p/20c spins and a typical deposit of £50/$60, my balance would potentially be gone in 2.5 to 3 bonus buys. But I know I'm not your typical gambler.
 
It probably wrong, but often i have the following play manner. I deposit €100 and play it down to €50 at stakes up to €1. Then, i go to buy a bonus for €50. Next, one like Sugar Rush gives me 12x, then after about 1 minute it says your balance is low and asks for more money :D
I don't think anything is wrong as long as you are playing within your means and are enjoying yourself.
 
Not sure if you have heard the rumour, but I hear that a five-scatter trigger on San Quentin has never been hit in standard play. Nor was it hit in testing :)

@LadyJelena nice reply to outline the alternatives and also the games that are similar - very helpful :thumbsup:

I wouldn't take the feedback personally, although they are justified in many ways, the deluge of extra bet features and unattainable super bonuses are not just a Pragmatic thing.

Seems most players just want a normal slot with no extra bet options, gamble features, or pie-in-the-sky bonuses that we can only witness on youtube. via streamers.

Which begs the question - if players don't want them, why are they becoming more prevalent? This is perhaps why most players think games like this are a con. There is always going to be a question or doubt that remains for a player when there are options on the table - nobody wants them except the casinos and developers.

Gimme a bog-standard slot with no fairyland frills and straightforward stats please :)
not sure abut San Quentin but I had land 5 scatters on Nolimit games, How many ppl play on San Quentin? not many coz everyone know that game is bonus buy, regarding to extra bets non of us even know they work do they really give you extra chance to get faster bonus? even paying extra bets you could end up spining 400-500 spin without bonus, I thing paying 50% or 100% extra bet is just extra money for provider.
 
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I like a lot of Pragmatic Games but always vote with my balance. If a slot doesn't pay after a certain number of spins,5-10 in my case I will either reload for another 5-10 and then move onto another game. If you keep grinding and grinding on any game you will lose everything much quicker.

Yup been applying same rule for years myself, I tell ya, it has turned me into a *reel* slot grinder 🤣but because ofthe way I play. if a slot is paying well I don't stop until it reverts to dead spins. Now I either make my money work first and get a good win and then after that I will adjust and take a lower bet to see how it's still playing. .if there's a likelihood of big wins at lower bets then I feel I might be more likely to hit a big win/elusive bonus)
All pseudosomaric b.s of course , but it's how I play and turn 50eu into 350-500eu back.
 
They are becoming more common as they prefer players to go apeshit on their balances.

They don't want a player, let's call him 'PlumpyPorkPie'.. Hammering away for two hours and breaking even on 20p bets.

Literally me 🤣🤣🤣
 

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This sort of mechanic should be banned altogether.

Gambles as you describe fair enough or say like Extra Chilli where if you win you get at least 4 extra spins and its only less than a handful of gambles to reach the max spins possible, then players choice and a realistic reward if you win the gamble successfully.

This crap where you gain one spin and have to reach at least 12 spins IMO to stand a chance of a decent return is a piss take on top of an already existing pile of piss takes.

You only have to watch the Bandit's battle with this game to see how costly it can get within minutes.
It was obvious to me many moons ago when I did my video and site review on this horror that gambling your spins up is pointless mostly. All that risk to increase ultimately your dead spin proportion in the bonus. Meh. You'll find that with just 6 or 7 you will get a bigger proportion of wilds and winning tumbles than you will with 12.
 
I decided to buy free spins on this God-awful game out of frustration after waiting tens of hundreds of spins. $60 buy, awarded 10 free spins which surprised me.
The massive x18 multiplier and the 10.5x bet win did not surprise me though, what a horrible slot.
 
Seen it many times as soon as you get your multiplier to 100x it will give 1 win and then dead spin no matter how many you have left anyway
Just like base games that build a multiplier for use in the bonus round - you actually don’t want that multiplier to max out… you want it to get around 50% and pop off free spins / bonus. The max multiplier is designed to keep a gambler playing in hopes of the bonus being achieved all the while being tickled by the possibilities of what will be when the bonus happens - just to finally get it and see the round was typically not half as good as when the multiplier is lower…. “Random” they say - strange how there’s so much that works against the player and to the houses favour.
 
Here is a perfect example of the “chase the dragon” tactic…. Played hundreds and hundreds of spins to get this game to where it is. As I’ve mentioned prior about new games starting hot - bonus round got triggered very first fuckin soon EVER on this game the FIRST time I played this game (believe it was released just yesterday on CR - Yukon Gold), and it went on to trigger an almost comical amount of times in my first hundred or so spins yesterday. Now that it has almost nowhere to hide it’s ensuring extracts a “fair” amount before it pops off - and I will not be surprised when it blanks me over and over when the time comes. Should hopefully get to level 3 jackpot before it tells me to frigg off….
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