Prism Casino or EZTP.NET .. which one?
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"There can't be too many industries where the *consumer* is put through this sort of nonsense, causing stress and anxiety. Judging by the experiences here (and there have been reports at WOL too) this EZTP crowd shouldn't be in business"
Jetset, well saying. I am really living in FEAR from now on. Who know when will they charge me again? Six months later? I check all my credit card and bank statement every day and was worried about it. It is really a mental/physical abuse. (Good way to lose weight. LOL) Wish there is something we can do about it.
If the casino didn't know at first place. I can understand, but they should stand up to hlep players and reslove the issue. Prism, Goldbettin, LadyDream and DirectNetPay (or whoever use them) should clear out the mess with EZTP. Otherwise, players will have fear to play at their casino.
I just can't believe HOW could they do this? They are killing themselves and everyone too.
Jetset, well saying. I am really living in FEAR from now on. Who know when will they charge me again? Six months later? I check all my credit card and bank statement every day and was worried about it. It is really a mental/physical abuse. (Good way to lose weight. LOL) Wish there is something we can do about it.
If the casino didn't know at first place. I can understand, but they should stand up to hlep players and reslove the issue. Prism, Goldbettin, LadyDream and DirectNetPay (or whoever use them) should clear out the mess with EZTP. Otherwise, players will have fear to play at their casino.
I just can't believe HOW could they do this? They are killing themselves and everyone too.
bewitch, when I spoke with prismpitboss on phone yesterday, he told me they quit using eztp.net last month.
Said this has been going on with a lot of their players.
Bad thing about this is, any one of the casino's or the payservice(s) can have numerous charges pending to clear your account at a certain date, which has been set up a month, 2 or even 3 months prior. So even if you close your account, when any of the charges finally hit, it automatically re-opens that account.
That is why my bank told me to open a new account for my use, and just leave the one that's being hit with these charges alone. They 'flagged' that account so any activities within it will be monitored continously, they then can immediately see where/who it is coming from and keep better record so they'll know exactly who to go after.
And by me signing a form to recover my money, that means they are actually stealing money from the bank itself.
I think who ever has done and is doing this finally made a 'big' mistake, and WILL pay for it.
Said this has been going on with a lot of their players.
Bad thing about this is, any one of the casino's or the payservice(s) can have numerous charges pending to clear your account at a certain date, which has been set up a month, 2 or even 3 months prior. So even if you close your account, when any of the charges finally hit, it automatically re-opens that account.
That is why my bank told me to open a new account for my use, and just leave the one that's being hit with these charges alone. They 'flagged' that account so any activities within it will be monitored continously, they then can immediately see where/who it is coming from and keep better record so they'll know exactly who to go after.
And by me signing a form to recover my money, that means they are actually stealing money from the bank itself.
I think who ever has done and is doing this finally made a 'big' mistake, and WILL pay for it.
That's good news, and there seems to be a need for some detective work on EZTP.NET so we know a little more about these bozos.
It's perhaps understandable that the casino wants to pass the blame on to the processor, but I can't help thinking that in a responsible business it is as much a casino problem (maybe even more so) as a player problem if the processor screws around.
After all, the player in most cases did not choose the casino because it uses or does not use a particular processor - he or she chose to give their business to a particular casino for reasons related to that casino. And a bad experience will probably result in players avoiding the casino in future.
It seems to me that the casino should be playing a very real part in this mess (which they admit involves a number of their players) by aggressively assisting the players to get their money and putting a stop to these ridiculous unauthorised charges.
It's perhaps understandable that the casino wants to pass the blame on to the processor, but I can't help thinking that in a responsible business it is as much a casino problem (maybe even more so) as a player problem if the processor screws around.
After all, the player in most cases did not choose the casino because it uses or does not use a particular processor - he or she chose to give their business to a particular casino for reasons related to that casino. And a bad experience will probably result in players avoiding the casino in future.
It seems to me that the casino should be playing a very real part in this mess (which they admit involves a number of their players) by aggressively assisting the players to get their money and putting a stop to these ridiculous unauthorised charges.
Yes, good news, but what other casino uses this eztp.net?
One never really knows if it's the casino or payservice til it is investigated completely by someone who has the knowledge and means to do so.
That is why I'm posting to y'all just for your information, a 'heads up' so to speak, and going to let the fraud department within the bank handle this.
One never really knows if it's the casino or payservice til it is investigated completely by someone who has the knowledge and means to do so.
That is why I'm posting to y'all just for your information, a 'heads up' so to speak, and going to let the fraud department within the bank handle this.
prismpitboss (John),
I'm sure you are still checking posts here, so to let you know if you haven't already figured it out, I'm not sending any of my personal information to anyone, I'll let my bank handle this issue and if information is needed from whoever, the bank can do so if acceptable.
I was going to call you and inform you of this, but decided to step out of all communications concerning this from the legal aspect there of.
It's in the hands of my bank, completely now.
Thank you for your time.
I'm sure you are still checking posts here, so to let you know if you haven't already figured it out, I'm not sending any of my personal information to anyone, I'll let my bank handle this issue and if information is needed from whoever, the bank can do so if acceptable.
I was going to call you and inform you of this, but decided to step out of all communications concerning this from the legal aspect there of.
It's in the hands of my bank, completely now.
Thank you for your time.
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No, you are not stupid at all. Silly girl.
WOL is the message board belong to winneronline.com.
Here is the link:
I use the same name: bewitch register there. It's more tough forum, but it's fun to read it. You will see a lot of gambler. And they always come out the math on gambling. I don't know how they do it. Write down every bet, I think.
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I use the same name: bewitch register there. It's more tough forum, but it's fun to read it. You will see a lot of gambler. And they always come out the math on gambling. I don't know how they do it. Write down every bet, I think.
Ah, winneronline .. now that I know, just couldn't make the connection ..smile
Thank you bewitch.
A question .. isn't Lady Dream Casino and DirectNetPay management, one and the same?
Sister casino's are: Gold Betting, Players Vegas and Lucky Dog Sports?
Thank you bewitch.
A question .. isn't Lady Dream Casino and DirectNetPay management, one and the same?
Sister casino's are: Gold Betting, Players Vegas and Lucky Dog Sports?
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LOL. I don't know either. Very confused. right?
There are 4 of them : goldbetting , ladydream , luckdogsports and playersvegas.
Someone just gave me an idea about asking Neteller to help. Will Neteller help me to get my deposit back?
There are 4 of them : goldbetting , ladydream , luckdogsports and playersvegas.
Someone just gave me an idea about asking Neteller to help. Will Neteller help me to get my deposit back?
prismpitboss
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That is fine.
But all I need to see are the transactions being placed on your card, you may black out the rest of the info.
But we will wait, please keep me updated on this thanks.
John
But all I need to see are the transactions being placed on your card, you may black out the rest of the info.
But we will wait, please keep me updated on this thanks.
John
prismpitboss,
I will keep it posted here as to what is happening as I find out.
Thank you!
oh yes, the casino you asked if I have played ..answer is yes.. Dec 16, 2002- one deposit, Dec. 17, 2002- one deposit, Dec 24, 2002-one deposit, then July 27th, 2003 .. used a coupon only, no deposits.
More than you asked for, I know.
I will keep it posted here as to what is happening as I find out.
Thank you!
oh yes, the casino you asked if I have played ..answer is yes.. Dec 16, 2002- one deposit, Dec. 17, 2002- one deposit, Dec 24, 2002-one deposit, then July 27th, 2003 .. used a coupon only, no deposits.
More than you asked for, I know.
prismpitboss
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Thanks, and may you always be a winner.
P.S. Check your Account
P.S. Check your Account
jetset,
Regarding EZTP.NET
I'm sure people have done a whois on the domain, for those that have not here is some info. Even though it states it's located in Cypris, whois info & server location proves otherwise.
Registrant:
Siam Management Services, Ltd (HJOLCYWRBD)
British Colonial Center of Commerce #401
One Bay St. PO Box CB 10974
Nassau, New Providence 10974
BS
Domain Name: EZTP.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Siam Management Services, Ltd (QLIQPAQGXO) [email protected]
British Colonial Center of Commerce #401
One Bay St. PO Box CB 10974
Nassau, New Providence 10974
BS
242-322-6656 fax: 242-322-6657
Record expires on 18-Dec-2005.
Record created on 18-Dec-2002.
Database last updated on 10-Aug-2003 19:36:20 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.SECUREHOST.COM 24.244.140.100
NS2.SECUREHOST.COM 24.244.140.101
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Whois info for, siamnassau.com:
Registrant:
Velocity Works, Inc.
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
Domain name: SIAMNASSAU.COM
Administrative Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Technical Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Registration Service Provider:
Velocity Works, Inc., [email protected]
912-525-1980
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2003.
Record expires on 14-Aug-2004.
Record Created on 14-Aug-2002.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.134
NS2.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.135
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Whois info for, velocityworks.com:
Registrant:
Velocity Works, Inc.
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
Domain name: VELOCITYWORKS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Technical Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Registration Service Provider:
Velocity Works, Inc., [email protected]
912-525-1980
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2003.
Record expires on 03-Dec-2004.
Record Created on 04-Dec-1998.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.134
NS2.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.135
Regarding EZTP.NET
I'm sure people have done a whois on the domain, for those that have not here is some info. Even though it states it's located in Cypris, whois info & server location proves otherwise.
Registrant:
Siam Management Services, Ltd (HJOLCYWRBD)
British Colonial Center of Commerce #401
One Bay St. PO Box CB 10974
Nassau, New Providence 10974
BS
Domain Name: EZTP.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Siam Management Services, Ltd (QLIQPAQGXO) [email protected]
British Colonial Center of Commerce #401
One Bay St. PO Box CB 10974
Nassau, New Providence 10974
BS
242-322-6656 fax: 242-322-6657
Record expires on 18-Dec-2005.
Record created on 18-Dec-2002.
Database last updated on 10-Aug-2003 19:36:20 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.SECUREHOST.COM 24.244.140.100
NS2.SECUREHOST.COM 24.244.140.101
--------------------------------------
Whois info for, siamnassau.com:
Registrant:
Velocity Works, Inc.
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
Domain name: SIAMNASSAU.COM
Administrative Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Technical Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Registration Service Provider:
Velocity Works, Inc., [email protected]
912-525-1980
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2003.
Record expires on 14-Aug-2004.
Record Created on 14-Aug-2002.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.134
NS2.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.135
---------------------------------------------
Whois info for, velocityworks.com:
Registrant:
Velocity Works, Inc.
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
Domain name: VELOCITYWORKS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Technical Contact:
Works, Velocity [email protected]
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Registration Service Provider:
Velocity Works, Inc., [email protected]
912-525-1980
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2003.
Record expires on 03-Dec-2004.
Record Created on 04-Dec-1998.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.134
NS2.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.135
My pleasure 
I did happen to do some more snooping around, and came over the host of Cave Creek
Now from memory cave creek also has a adult dedicated hosting company; helps to have been round since year dot of the net.
Maybe useless info, but thought I'd add it.
I did happen to do some more snooping around, and came over the host of Cave Creek
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Now from memory cave creek also has a adult dedicated hosting company; helps to have been round since year dot of the net.
Maybe useless info, but thought I'd add it.
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Hey Mr. Prism, would you care to comment on why my $700 withdrawal from last December has not been paid yet, my account locked & all emails getting refused?!?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
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EZTP.NET has sister website as below:
EZNP.NET (Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) ), Payment Systems Online (Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) ) and
They are the same company under different name. psobill is located in Los Angles, CA.
I finally get respond from DirectNetPay and they said they don't know what happen. However, they kept question me why I want to charge back $500 on my bank. I told them EZTP charge me $895 again on 8/5 and 8/6 and Never refund my $500 on 6/15. I still have $1955 was locked under them and they won't pay me. And DirectNetPay still ask me why? (sigh)
Casino still didn't respond me as Prism did.
(Message edited by bewitch on August 11, 2003)
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.They are the same company under different name. psobill is located in Los Angles, CA.
I finally get respond from DirectNetPay and they said they don't know what happen. However, they kept question me why I want to charge back $500 on my bank. I told them EZTP charge me $895 again on 8/5 and 8/6 and Never refund my $500 on 6/15. I still have $1955 was locked under them and they won't pay me. And DirectNetPay still ask me why? (sigh)
Casino still didn't respond me as Prism did.
(Message edited by bewitch on August 11, 2003)
prismpitboss
Casino Representative
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schankwart, Please send your user name to [email protected] Att: John
I'll look into it for you.
Thanks,
John
I'll look into it for you.
Thanks,
John
an update:
[color=0000ff]Sent email to eztp.net (copy below)[/color]
From: xxxx
Date: Saturday, August 09, 2003 05:49:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Information, Please!!
Dear Sir,
I used my bankcard at a few online casino's. And back in June, I was hit with numerous 'unauthorized' debits, 3 or 4 from eztp.net as the processor.
Could you please check and let me know which casino(s) put these charges through?
Name: xxxx xxxx
User Name: xxxxx
card used (last 4 numbders): xxxx
And now, my checking account through this bankcard is being hit again with 'unauthorized charges showing eztp.net being the only one this time. This is happening after having the #3348 card 'hot carded' and a new one issued to me.
So my bank done an indepth search and found these fraudulent charges as being set up back in June 2003, as 'pre-auth' against my account and to start hitting it again this month. Of which it has started and found more waiting to hit again.
An explaination as to why this is happening will be appreciated.
Thank You!
xxxxxxx
[color=0000ff]Received this from them today....[/color]
From: [email protected]
Date: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:05:17 AM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: bankcard issue
Dear Deborah,
We are researching this mistake and will take appropriate action right away.
What phone number can you be reached at?
Best Regards,
Customer Care
eztp
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Guess I'm going to give them a call, and try AVP Solutions again, never can reach anyone there.
[color=0000ff]Sent email to eztp.net (copy below)[/color]
From: xxxx
Date: Saturday, August 09, 2003 05:49:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Information, Please!!
Dear Sir,
I used my bankcard at a few online casino's. And back in June, I was hit with numerous 'unauthorized' debits, 3 or 4 from eztp.net as the processor.
Could you please check and let me know which casino(s) put these charges through?
Name: xxxx xxxx
User Name: xxxxx
card used (last 4 numbders): xxxx
And now, my checking account through this bankcard is being hit again with 'unauthorized charges showing eztp.net being the only one this time. This is happening after having the #3348 card 'hot carded' and a new one issued to me.
So my bank done an indepth search and found these fraudulent charges as being set up back in June 2003, as 'pre-auth' against my account and to start hitting it again this month. Of which it has started and found more waiting to hit again.
An explaination as to why this is happening will be appreciated.
Thank You!
xxxxxxx
[color=0000ff]Received this from them today....[/color]
From: [email protected]
Date: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:05:17 AM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: bankcard issue
Dear Deborah,
We are researching this mistake and will take appropriate action right away.
What phone number can you be reached at?
Best Regards,
Customer Care
eztp
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Guess I'm going to give them a call, and try AVP Solutions again, never can reach anyone there.
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Jinnia,
Good luck. If it's 888-357-2727 the customer service. You probably won't find ahything. They told me the charge me $500 on 6/12 and refund $500 on 6/15 according their computer. But not my bank. They charge me 2 x $500 and never refund me.
Good news (hope so) Neteller said they will try to help me get my deposit back at least. Wish me luck!
Good luck. If it's 888-357-2727 the customer service. You probably won't find ahything. They told me the charge me $500 on 6/12 and refund $500 on 6/15 according their computer. But not my bank. They charge me 2 x $500 and never refund me.
Good news (hope so) Neteller said they will try to help me get my deposit back at least. Wish me luck!
bewitch,
yes, that's the only number I can come up with for them, then the email at aol, listed above.
still searching, I'm not letting go of this, even if only $5.00, I'd be doing same.
I also called the court house here today just to gossip with a friend, when I told her of what's been going on, she said 60 Minutes aired about 2 or 3 weeks ago about several online eprocessing companies being shut down and charged with making fraudulent charges against peoples credit/debit cards.
From what she said, one of the companies that hit me the hardest back in June was named.
Anyone see that story?
yes, that's the only number I can come up with for them, then the email at aol, listed above.
still searching, I'm not letting go of this, even if only $5.00, I'd be doing same.
I also called the court house here today just to gossip with a friend, when I told her of what's been going on, she said 60 Minutes aired about 2 or 3 weeks ago about several online eprocessing companies being shut down and charged with making fraudulent charges against peoples credit/debit cards.
From what she said, one of the companies that hit me the hardest back in June was named.
Anyone see that story?
EZ and Netpay:::
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[color=ff0000]EZ Netpay specialist in hard to place sites and companies that Visa and MC consider high risk.[/color]
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[color=ff0000]EZ Netpay specialist in hard to place sites and companies that Visa and MC consider high risk.[/color]
Established 1996 GMT . Woodbase Investment, Ltd. 15 Themistocles ... in the power of the Internet" Office 1-242-502-8636 Woodbase Investments, Ltd. Copyright 2002 - 2003, all rights reserved
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Hi gang,
Here is some more info :
>,ip<,
24.244.140.103
EZTP.NET
Host unreachable
>,net<,
24.244.140.0 - 24.244.140.254
>,owner<,
Maxil Communications Ltd.
Robinson at Marathon Rd.
Nassau
New Providence
CB13050
Bahamas
>,technical<,
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
Abuse:
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
>,additional<,
MAXIL-1
Created: 2001-05-15
Updated: 2003-06-12
Source: whois.arin.net
-------------------------------------
>,ip<,
24.244.140.28
maxil.com
Host reachable, 311 ms. average
>,net<,
24.244.140.0 - 24.244.140.254
>,owner<,
Maxil Communications Ltd.
Robinson at Marathon Rd.
Nassau
New Providence
CB13050
Bahamas
>,technical<,
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
Abuse:
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
>,additional<,
MAXIL-1
Created: 2001-05-15
Updated: 2003-06-12
Source: whois.arin.net
Here is some more info :
>,ip<,
24.244.140.103
EZTP.NET
Host unreachable
>,net<,
24.244.140.0 - 24.244.140.254
>,owner<,
Maxil Communications Ltd.
Robinson at Marathon Rd.
Nassau
New Providence
CB13050
Bahamas
>,technical<,
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
Abuse:
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
>,additional<,
MAXIL-1
Created: 2001-05-15
Updated: 2003-06-12
Source: whois.arin.net
-------------------------------------
>,ip<,
24.244.140.28
maxil.com
Host reachable, 311 ms. average
>,net<,
24.244.140.0 - 24.244.140.254
>,owner<,
Maxil Communications Ltd.
Robinson at Marathon Rd.
Nassau
New Providence
CB13050
Bahamas
>,technical<,
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
Abuse:
Douglas, Richard
242-502-8602
[email protected]
>,additional<,
MAXIL-1
Created: 2001-05-15
Updated: 2003-06-12
Source: whois.arin.net
prismpitboss
Casino Representative
- Joined
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schankwart, I'm working on your problem, expect an E-mail from us with in 2 days.
Thanks,
John
Thanks,
John
schankwart
Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
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Okay John,
I am anxiously waiting...
I am anxiously waiting...
a lot of searching, but found Process Money (ProcMoney) ::
Right under my nose .. gee!
EZTP.NET told me the charges came from Prism, went through ProcMoney then to them.
I'll be calling them (ProcMoney) later today and see what they say.
Keep in mind, still don't know the wrong doers yet.
Great Southern (my bank) will get to bottom of this, no doubt, I'm just restless and looking for information for myself.
I'm suppose to get in touch with my bank later today, hope they have news of some sort...!?
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Right under my nose .. gee!
EZTP.NET told me the charges came from Prism, went through ProcMoney then to them.
I'll be calling them (ProcMoney) later today and see what they say.
Keep in mind, still don't know the wrong doers yet.
Great Southern (my bank) will get to bottom of this, no doubt, I'm just restless and looking for information for myself.
I'm suppose to get in touch with my bank later today, hope they have news of some sort...!?
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Jinnia, Keep me update. ProcMoney looks kind of new to me. Not too much on internet about them.
I talked to EZTP on the phone 2 days ago about my 6/15 refund (it never "arrive" my bank). He said it's being refund according his computer. So I ask him to send me an email about this statement. Gusee what? He sent me an email said "the refund has been issue (?) and please allowed 15 days to arrive my account." LOL. I forward it to my bank anyway.
During the conversation, I asked him how's the situation? Is there a lot of mess around EZTP recently? He is kind of answer yes. There has been "some issue" with Master Card around for a while.
I will be on a mini vacation from tomorrow. Just going to beach, having lobster, away from the computer for 2 days.
Good luck! Hope you will find WHO is real trouble maker there.
I talked to EZTP on the phone 2 days ago about my 6/15 refund (it never "arrive" my bank). He said it's being refund according his computer. So I ask him to send me an email about this statement. Gusee what? He sent me an email said "the refund has been issue (?) and please allowed 15 days to arrive my account." LOL. I forward it to my bank anyway.
During the conversation, I asked him how's the situation? Is there a lot of mess around EZTP recently? He is kind of answer yes. There has been "some issue" with Master Card around for a while.
I will be on a mini vacation from tomorrow. Just going to beach, having lobster, away from the computer for 2 days.
Good luck! Hope you will find WHO is real trouble maker there.
- Joined
- Jul 20, 2003
- Location
- Home, sweet home
Here is the copy from Term and Condition.
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15. VENUE
Any dispute arising from, or in connection with the Service shall be construed under the laws of the United States, and shall be brought in any competent court in the country of the United States.
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I thought they are located at UK. Guess not really!
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15. VENUE
Any dispute arising from, or in connection with the Service shall be construed under the laws of the United States, and shall be brought in any competent court in the country of the United States.
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I thought they are located at UK. Guess not really!
talked with eztp.net today (again), still claim that the charges in June came from Proc-Money - Prism Casino, and charges this month the same.
They gave me the number to Proc-Money (1-866-968-7946 or 1-911-888-824-6874), of which I called. Gave name and last 4 numbers of my bankcard used for depositing. They checked, no information at all comes up from my Name, nor card number. Lady put me throuh to manager. She couldn't find anything either. Asked for my number, gave it, said she'd check into it and call me back in about two hours, still no call, and it's been more than 2 hours.
So, someone here (won't mention who I think) is nothing more than a lying thief!!
Can't wait to see what my bank uncovers!!
They gave me the number to Proc-Money (1-866-968-7946 or 1-911-888-824-6874), of which I called. Gave name and last 4 numbers of my bankcard used for depositing. They checked, no information at all comes up from my Name, nor card number. Lady put me throuh to manager. She couldn't find anything either. Asked for my number, gave it, said she'd check into it and call me back in about two hours, still no call, and it's been more than 2 hours.
So, someone here (won't mention who I think) is nothing more than a lying thief!!
Can't wait to see what my bank uncovers!!
schankwart
Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
- Joined
- Mar 28, 2003
- Location
- Colony Gamma
John,
it's Friday by now and as expected I have NOT gotten an answer from you AGAIN!
The automated email-response from your Computer seems all you are able to say about this...
Nice!
it's Friday by now and as expected I have NOT gotten an answer from you AGAIN!
The automated email-response from your Computer seems all you are able to say about this...
Nice!
prismpitboss
Casino Representative
- Joined
- Aug 7, 2003
schankwart, was away from the office. We will send your payment no later then Tues.
Thanks,
John
Thanks,
John
prismpitboss
Casino Representative
- Joined
- Aug 7, 2003
jinnia, how are you doing?
schankwart, I'm working on your problem, expect an E-mail from us with in 2 days.
Thanks,
John
prismpitboss
If you say your going to do something, then you do it, it's that simple.
It's not good enough by a long shot, why didn't you send an e-mail to say sorry such and such is out of the office, instead you waited till the person posted here to give a retort. ( 2 days after )
One can only go on your; VCG's past performance, and this is just more of the same BS excusses that have been used in the past.
Obviously you can't see the problem here, and this is what has me questioning your sincerity.
(Message edited by glodge on August 17, 2003)
Thanks,
John
prismpitboss
If you say your going to do something, then you do it, it's that simple.
It's not good enough by a long shot, why didn't you send an e-mail to say sorry such and such is out of the office, instead you waited till the person posted here to give a retort. ( 2 days after )
One can only go on your; VCG's past performance, and this is just more of the same BS excusses that have been used in the past.
Obviously you can't see the problem here, and this is what has me questioning your sincerity.
(Message edited by glodge on August 17, 2003)
schankwart
Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
- Joined
- Mar 28, 2003
- Location
- Colony Gamma
As of today I still have not gotten the promised answer on my email!
Getting paid now would absolutely blow my mind, definetely I would not expect you to straighten out your dues anymore!!
Getting paid now would absolutely blow my mind, definetely I would not expect you to straighten out your dues anymore!!
pokeraddict
Webmaster
- Joined
- Aug 3, 2002
- Location
- Las Vegas
I just noticed a poker room i played at used EZTP as their CC processor. This doesnt mean bad things does it? Just because they used same processor. I have never used CC there. The link is dead too. They are unable to process right now the link says. Just because this place used this processor doesnt mean the casino is bad news does it? For example if a place uses ecashpay they are elka related, EZTP isnt an exclusive processor only for this group is it? They could process for legit casinos too right?
pokeraddict,
according to Proc-Money, there has been a lot of complaints about eztp.net, and may be so. But When money is being taken from your account without your authorization, and it's being done by several different e-cash processors, it tends to point finger to the casino.
Just keep watch on your bank/charge statements, if you see anything that is not right. Take any and all action you can against the casino and or processor.
It'll come out eventually who has done the theft!!
Then it can be posted here, anywhere and everywhere exactly who are the lying theives!!
according to Proc-Money, there has been a lot of complaints about eztp.net, and may be so. But When money is being taken from your account without your authorization, and it's being done by several different e-cash processors, it tends to point finger to the casino.
Just keep watch on your bank/charge statements, if you see anything that is not right. Take any and all action you can against the casino and or processor.
It'll come out eventually who has done the theft!!
Then it can be posted here, anywhere and everywhere exactly who are the lying theives!!
- Joined
- Jul 20, 2003
- Location
- Home, sweet home
Jinnia, How are you doing? Just got back last night from a "stressful but no computer" mini-vacation.
As for your question, it's copy from Process Money Online website.
Pokeraddict. As long as you don't use Master credit card, I think you "should" be fine. I had no problem with my visa card with them, but Master card is another story...
Jinnia, how can your bank "see" the future? The "coming" charge? Maybe I should open an account there. LOL Please let me know the discover from the bank. It became more and more interesting now.
As for your question, it's copy from Process Money Online website.
Pokeraddict. As long as you don't use Master credit card, I think you "should" be fine. I had no problem with my visa card with them, but Master card is another story...
Jinnia, how can your bank "see" the future? The "coming" charge? Maybe I should open an account there. LOL Please let me know the discover from the bank. It became more and more interesting now.
jinnia is doing good, went to two land casino's over the week-end, had fun.
I wish I could see the future myself bewitch .. smile
Back in June, Prism and or Eztp.net put charges against my account, in holding, not to go through til this month, August. So it shows in my account file they are there, but not on my statement or online account til they hit.
All banks can see this in everyones account, just ask them to check for you.
How is bewitch doing?
I wish I could see the future myself bewitch .. smile
Back in June, Prism and or Eztp.net put charges against my account, in holding, not to go through til this month, August. So it shows in my account file they are there, but not on my statement or online account til they hit.
All banks can see this in everyones account, just ask them to check for you.
How is bewitch doing?
prismpitboss
Casino Representative
- Joined
- Aug 7, 2003
schankwart, Please send your user name to [email protected] (once again) Att: John
I'll look into it for you.
Thanks, I'll get your payment out today.
John
I'll look into it for you.
Thanks, I'll get your payment out today.
John
schankwart
Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
- Joined
- Mar 28, 2003
- Location
- Colony Gamma
Email resent, John.
schankwart
Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
- Joined
- Mar 28, 2003
- Location
- Colony Gamma
Needless to say... No reply, no money, no nothing!!!
