Prism Casino or EZTP.NET .. which one?

[jetset]

LOL - not a criticism of your return for more punishment, but a commentary on the bad behaviour of the casino staff that you described.

 

[jinnia]

jetset , for one to laugh like that means the nail was hit on the head .. smile

You know the old saying, 'kill two birds with one stone?'

Well, you done that actually .. grin

 

[bewitch]

"There can't be too many industries where the *consumer* is put through this sort of nonsense, causing stress and anxiety. Judging by the experiences here (and there have been reports at WOL too) this EZTP crowd shouldn't be in business"

Jetset, well saying. I am really living in FEAR from now on. Who know when will they charge me again? Six months later? I check all my credit card and bank statement every day and was worried about it. It is really a mental/physical abuse. (Good way to lose weight. LOL) Wish there is something we can do about it.

If the casino didn't know at first place. I can understand, but they should stand up to hlep players and reslove the issue. Prism, Goldbettin, LadyDream and DirectNetPay (or whoever use them) should clear out the mess with EZTP. Otherwise, players will have fear to play at their casino.

I just can't believe HOW could they do this? They are killing themselves and everyone too.

 

[jinnia]

bewitch, when I spoke with prismpitboss on phone yesterday, he told me they quit using eztp.net last month.

Said this has been going on with a lot of their players.

Bad thing about this is, any one of the casino's or the payservice(s) can have numerous charges pending to clear your account at a certain date, which has been set up a month, 2 or even 3 months prior. So even if you close your account, when any of the charges finally hit, it automatically re-opens that account.

That is why my bank told me to open a new account for my use, and just leave the one that's being hit with these charges alone. They 'flagged' that account so any activities within it will be monitored continously, they then can immediately see where/who it is coming from and keep better record so they'll know exactly who to go after.

And by me signing a form to recover my money, that means they are actually stealing money from the bank itself.

I think who ever has done and is doing this finally made a 'big' mistake, and WILL pay for it.

 

[jetset]

That's good news, and there seems to be a need for some detective work on EZTP.NET so we know a little more about these bozos.

It's perhaps understandable that the casino wants to pass the blame on to the processor, but I can't help thinking that in a responsible business it is as much a casino problem (maybe even more so) as a player problem if the processor screws around.

After all, the player in most cases did not choose the casino because it uses or does not use a particular processor - he or she chose to give their business to a particular casino for reasons related to that casino. And a bad experience will probably result in players avoiding the casino in future.

It seems to me that the casino should be playing a very real part in this mess (which they admit involves a number of their players) by aggressively assisting the players to get their money and putting a stop to these ridiculous unauthorised charges.

 

[jinnia]

Yes, good news, but what other casino uses this eztp.net?

One never really knows if it's the casino or payservice til it is investigated completely by someone who has the knowledge and means to do so.

That is why I'm posting to y'all just for your information, a 'heads up' so to speak, and going to let the fraud department within the bank handle this.

 

[jinnia]

prismpitboss (John),

I'm sure you are still checking posts here, so to let you know if you haven't already figured it out, I'm not sending any of my personal information to anyone, I'll let my bank handle this issue and if information is needed from whoever, the bank can do so if acceptable.

I was going to call you and inform you of this, but decided to step out of all communications concerning this from the legal aspect there of.

It's in the hands of my bank, completely now.

Thank you for your time.

 

[jinnia]

people! I see WOL constantly here in the posts, laugh if you will, but, what/who is WOL ?? Attach Removed (Old not found) >,--- myself referred to...grin

 

[bewitch]

No, you are not stupid at all. Silly girl.
WOL is the message board belong to winneronline.com.
Here is the link:

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I use the same name: bewitch register there. It's more tough forum, but it's fun to read it. You will see a lot of gambler. And they always come out the math on gambling. I don't know how they do it. Write down every bet, I think.

 

[jinnia]

Ah, winneronline .. now that I know, just couldn't make the connection ..smile

Thank you bewitch.

A question .. isn't Lady Dream Casino and DirectNetPay management, one and the same?

Sister casino's are: Gold Betting, Players Vegas and Lucky Dog Sports?

 

[bewitch]

LOL. I don't know either. Very confused. right?
There are 4 of them : goldbetting , ladydream , luckdogsports and playersvegas.

Someone just gave me an idea about asking Neteller to help. Will Neteller help me to get my deposit back?

 

[jinnia]

bewitch,

Confused? That don't even begin to describe it bewitch. Gawd!!

I wouldn't know for sure, but seems if you made your deposit through Neteller, they should help you with this issue ..

Give it a shot and see.

Best of Luck!

 

[prismpitboss]

That is fine.
But all I need to see are the transactions being placed on your card, you may black out the rest of the info.

But we will wait, please keep me updated on this thanks.

John

 

[jinnia]

prismpitboss,

I will keep it posted here as to what is happening as I find out.

Thank you!

oh yes, the casino you asked if I have played ..answer is yes.. Dec 16, 2002- one deposit, Dec. 17, 2002- one deposit, Dec 24, 2002-one deposit, then July 27th, 2003 .. used a coupon only, no deposits.

More than you asked for, I know.

 

[prismpitboss]

Thanks, and may you always be a winner.

P.S. Check your Account

 

[jinnia]

prismpitboss,

I just installed Prism again and checked my account. I want to thank you. That's kind of you to do.

 

[glodge]

jetset,

Regarding EZTP.NET

I'm sure people have done a whois on the domain, for those that have not here is some info. Even though it states it's located in Cypris, whois info & server location proves otherwise.

Registrant:
Siam Management Services, Ltd (HJOLCYWRBD)
British Colonial Center of Commerce #401
One Bay St. PO Box CB 10974
Nassau, New Providence 10974
BS

Domain Name: EZTP.NET

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Siam Management Services, Ltd (QLIQPAQGXO) rpousaz@siamnassau.com
British Colonial Center of Commerce #401
One Bay St. PO Box CB 10974
Nassau, New Providence 10974
BS
242-322-6656 fax: 242-322-6657

Record expires on 18-Dec-2005.
Record created on 18-Dec-2002.
Database last updated on 10-Aug-2003 19:36:20 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.SECUREHOST.COM 24.244.140.100
NS2.SECUREHOST.COM 24.244.140.101

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Whois info for, siamnassau.com:
Registrant:
Velocity Works, Inc.
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US

Domain name: SIAMNASSAU.COM

Administrative Contact:
Works, Velocity dns@velocityworks.com
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Technical Contact:
Works, Velocity dns@velocityworks.com
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980


Registration Service Provider:
Velocity Works, Inc., dns@velocityworks.com
912-525-1980



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2003.
Record expires on 14-Aug-2004.
Record Created on 14-Aug-2002.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.134
NS2.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.135


---------------------------------------------

Whois info for, velocityworks.com:
Registrant:
Velocity Works, Inc.
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US

Domain name: VELOCITYWORKS.COM

Administrative Contact:
Works, Velocity dns@velocityworks.com
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980
Technical Contact:
Works, Velocity dns@velocityworks.com
304 W. Upper Factors Walk
Savannah, GA 31401
US
+1.9125251980


Registration Service Provider:
Velocity Works, Inc., dns@velocityworks.com
912-525-1980



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 20-Jul-2003.
Record expires on 03-Dec-2004.
Record Created on 04-Dec-1998.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.134
NS2.RACKMY.COM 63.246.15.135

 

[jetset]

Thanks Glodge - we're trying to check out the individuals involved in Wager 21, DirectNetPay and these four casinos, too. There are some very close connections from what we can see.

 

[glodge]

My pleasure

I did happen to do some more snooping around, and came over the host of Cave Creek

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Now from memory cave creek also has a adult dedicated hosting company; helps to have been round since year dot of the net.

Maybe useless info, but thought I'd add it.

 

[schankwart]

Hey Mr. Prism, would you care to comment on why my $700 withdrawal from last December has not been paid yet, my account locked & all emails getting refused?!?

I doubt it.

 

[bewitch]

EZTP.NET has sister website as below:
EZNP.NET (Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) ), Payment Systems Online (Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) ) and

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

.

They are the same company under different name. psobill is located in Los Angles, CA.

I finally get respond from DirectNetPay and they said they don't know what happen. However, they kept question me why I want to charge back $500 on my bank. I told them EZTP charge me $895 again on 8/5 and 8/6 and Never refund my $500 on 6/15. I still have $1955 was locked under them and they won't pay me. And DirectNetPay still ask me why? (sigh)

Casino still didn't respond me as Prism did.

(Message edited by bewitch on August 11, 2003)

 

[prismpitboss]

schankwart, Please send your user name to support@prismcasino.com Att: John
I'll look into it for you.

Thanks,

John

 

[jinnia]

an update:

[color=0000ff]Sent email to eztp.net (copy below)[/color]

From: xxxx
Date: Saturday, August 09, 2003 05:49:47 PM
To: rpousaz@siamnassau.com
Subject: Information, Please!!


Dear Sir,

I used my bankcard at a few online casino's. And back in June, I was hit with numerous 'unauthorized' debits, 3 or 4 from eztp.net as the processor.

Could you please check and let me know which casino(s) put these charges through?

Name: xxxx xxxx
User Name: xxxxx
card used (last 4 numbders): xxxx

And now, my checking account through this bankcard is being hit again with 'unauthorized charges showing eztp.net being the only one this time. This is happening after having the #3348 card 'hot carded' and a new one issued to me.

So my bank done an indepth search and found these fraudulent charges as being set up back in June 2003, as 'pre-auth' against my account and to start hitting it again this month. Of which it has started and found more waiting to hit again.

An explaination as to why this is happening will be appreciated.

Thank You!
xxxxxxx


[color=0000ff]Received this from them today....[/color]

From: Eztpnet@aol.com
Date: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:05:17 AM
To: xxxxxxx
Subject: bankcard issue

Dear Deborah,

We are researching this mistake and will take appropriate action right away.

What phone number can you be reached at?

Best Regards,

Customer Care
eztp

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Guess I'm going to give them a call, and try AVP Solutions again, never can reach anyone there.

 

[bewitch]

Jinnia,
Good luck. If it's 888-357-2727 the customer service. You probably won't find ahything. They told me the charge me $500 on 6/12 and refund $500 on 6/15 according their computer. But not my bank. They charge me 2 x $500 and never refund me.

Good news (hope so) Neteller said they will try to help me get my deposit back at least. Wish me luck!

 

[jinnia]

bewitch,

yes, that's the only number I can come up with for them, then the email at aol, listed above.

still searching, I'm not letting go of this, even if only $5.00, I'd be doing same.

I also called the court house here today just to gossip with a friend, when I told her of what's been going on, she said 60 Minutes aired about 2 or 3 weeks ago about several online eprocessing companies being shut down and charged with making fraudulent charges against peoples credit/debit cards.

From what she said, one of the companies that hit me the hardest back in June was named.

Anyone see that story?