It has been brought to my attention that I started something I had intended to walk away from for no other reason than I did not want to deal with BingoT and his snide remarks. I stand corrected. I did have a mission when I came in here, and I still do. I will try to address questions put to me and not create a novel, although sometimes short answers do not get the job done. Please bear with me.
lojo said:
No disrespect if I'm mistaken... but haven't I read accusations that BPU makes unsubstantiaited claims and gets all riled up before the facts are in?
I am sure you have read all kinds of things about BPU, some true and some not.. I cannot answer this particular question for you.
lojo said:
Of course it may be a freedom of speech issue to you, but it is any business's right to accept or decline customers for any or no reason.
... yes you are so right, the sites can do whatever they want , whenever they want. For me, the "freedom of speech" is just the tip of the iceberg. I believe that this "inhome entertainment" as it has been called by sites make ALL the rules. It is the players choice whether to play there or not. I feel it is my responsibility as a watchdog to make the bingo playing community aware of new rules and decisions made by these sites. I feel now and always have that if a site is implemnting a "new" rule, that players should be made aware of it. It would be great if they knew BEFORE that rule goes into effect.
lojo said:
Now if you got kicked out of a forum for reporting your experiences, that would be another story.
With due respect, what other story could there be? For instance, I could tell about my bad experience at any forum about any site. IF that site takes that "review" as bad mouthing, and then decided to close my account, whether there is money in it or not, I believe that is wrong! Just because we want to play bingo from the comfort of our homes is not reason to sell our soul to do so. Far be it from me to rock the boats of any players who are happy with these newly implemented, unannounced rules. At the same time, it is my right to advise players what HAS happened to just one or to ten million players at any given site. Is it so wrong to let the sites know that we do not agree with what they are doing?
For the time being, I will pass commenting on major portion of the letter from CB management. I am in the process of going throught every thread and every complaint in BPU to ascertain what we said was true. I called myself doing that before I posted here, but I am being very thorough so I do not have to do it again. NavyMom has posted proof here that she was definitely a victim of "account closed due to activities in open forum". Please do not treat that like it is unimportant. One player issue is JUST as important as 100. I must also ask myself, how many players have NOT spoken publicly because these sites CAN opt to close their accounts if they do. In my opinion, that is blackmail, pure and simple.
As a player anywhere, I believe if a site, whether poker or bingo, closed your account, with no explanation, no prior notice, and absolutely NO support response, it may tend to make you angry and indignant. I know it would me.
silk print said:
What I do not understand is how a bingo or casino can let someone make an account at various places and then hold it agains them after the fact
Casino A owns casinos 1 -100
You don't know they own those and make an account at 23 and 46 .After the fact they can do whatever they want because you broke the rules?
Casinos and Bingo ARE taking advantage of the way things are right now .
Just as a Info only Navy mom has been around the forums since forever.
IMHO is people here started having their accounts closed just for saying playing at XYZ casino stinks right now or they can't win anything there would be alot of pissed off people ..there are a couple of threads going right now that say this and I don't see them having their accounts closed for it . Pretty much only a junky outfit would pull that ..
Nor do I understand or condone it. Obviously their software CAN recognize it, otherwise their reason for closing these accounts due to "multiple account abuse" would be null and void now wouldn't it?
When sites refuse to answer inquiries, or respond to player issues, I get frustrated. Handling things like this "professionally" would be a pleasure to me! These players pay for the right to play at these sites. They should at least have the courtesy of prior notice and an explanation from the sites who are paying their help and banking the profits from this players funds before closing down their accounts.
I see members here at Meisters have "thanked" CB corp for their post that states "it should be noted that
one of the primary reasons is that they were all interrelated accounts and in violation of multiple account rules
among other things". Please read this carefully... ONE of the primary reasons, and AMONG OTHER THINGS would be of major concern to me if I were the player whose account had been closed. It is a major concern to me and I am not a player. What is "among other things"??? What are the other "primary reasons"?
lojo said:
Sissy, If there are points to be made, and questions to be answered, you might do some good by stating facts, asking and answering questions here; rather than 'resigning'.
All I care about is the truth and the facts.
Stick around and make apoint if it is important, please?
Thank you lojo. You are correct. I apologize and will do my best to follow up and finish what I started.
silk print said:
Is anyone posting in this thread an affiliate with these bingos?
I am not an affiliate with any site. That takes a $$$$ investment, and I have not made one.
lojo said:
Also, it seemed like she expected this to be treated as a PaB without actually filing one (which she couldn't right now) but as the current status of PaB shows, a player - and certainly an advocate - should do their due diligence before going that route.
I can just about hear the snickering, but I have to say, I do not even know what a PaB is. If you care to explain I will gladly add to my education by listening and learning. Thanks. Sissy still has a lot to learn about these forums and the job she does. If I ever get finished learning, I will be done. Thanks for the pointers. I have come a long way in 3 years. Still a very long road ahead.
I have been around long enough to recognize "control damage" personnel. The reason I posted here was to get attention on this issue. I do believe I stated that in my first post. Looking at the number of views it has had, it is definitely getting some attention. Another reason to post here is the lack of response from the CB Corporation. This is not the first and will not be the last time I have to go to these measures just to get an answer from management of a bingo site. They like to pretend I don't exist. Well I do! I have a right to my opinions the same as all of you. I make a point of believing what I post due to "proof" or the word of a trusted individual.
I have been approached by players who are in fact running scams on a bingo site. When I find that. I post it. When it is my opinion that the sites are running a scam on a players I will also post that! Sometimes documentation is asked to be kept confidential and I will always honor that. When I can post it I do.
My apologies for my unprofessional and "moment of anger" resignation, but I am so tired of some posters here picking apart everything I say or do, at the moment I posted it, it seemed like the right thing to do to keep from saying something I would be sorry for. I will address that in another thread, so as to not lose site of the reason this one was started. I will be posting more information and an in depth review of all threads at BPU concerning the "players accounts closed due to posting in public forums" as soon as I can have it ready and hopefully, above reproach.