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Players Accounts closed for "RISK MANAGEMENT"
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Why would they have to retire from CM?? Because you 2 say so? are you kidding me???
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so Bingo are you an affiliate with this group or not?
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ouch...
I'd rather have, or at least read, the discussion... but Sissy seems to want to just make statements and if you don't agree wholeheartedly, 'you don't want to see the facts'.
She could serve her 'constituents' better if she made statements and backed them up.
Also, it seemed like she expected this to be treated as a PaB without actually filing one (which she couldn't right now) but as the current status of PaB shows, a player - and certainly an advocate - should do their due diligence before going that route.
I would prefer that she stick around.... barring that I'd like to see navymans-mom substantiate her accusations and have the rep respond.... because I do want to see the truth. I don't play many bingo sites now, but I might in the future... I'd like to know what I might be dealing with
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Personally, I don't think either side is telling the whole truth . When their rep responded when you read the whole reply it is very vauge . I think the people that are actually owed money should come and post here but that is also no excuse for people getting snarky .
What is snarky? They made allegations, and were asked to back them up.
The free-speech issue is balderdash and patooey, imo, and I've said so several times.
edit: 500 word rants don't make up for one-line statements of fact.
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No they sure aren't...empty words are just that .
I have no stake in either side so I wouldn't back something that I don't know that much about either way .
Snarky means sarcastic .
I have no stake in either side so I wouldn't back something that I don't know that much about either way .
Snarky means sarcastic .
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Lojo, you can say what you want but when someone takes it upon themselves to tell someone bye bye from the forum I find that offensive . I had someone do that to me here before and I didn't like it then and I don't care for it now . CM and Simmo make those decisions .
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I'm confused, wasn't this voluntary. I think it was a Bon Voyage not a get out of here.
As for the issue, I've read this topic and at BPU, I don't see no facts.
He said she said, bout it! Just 2cents..
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The above is what Sissy herself posted. I don't see anyone in this thread telling her to leave.
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We did not tell anyone to leave.
But like again my old saying is.
"If the kitchen is to hot you get old"
And they choose this them self no one here told them Bye Bye
I don't even know that group they are talking about.
And No I don't use them.
And I sent them the link to this forum so they can come here to say it like it is.All I want to know is the truth also that's all.
But like again my old saying is.
"If the kitchen is to hot you get old"
And they choose this them self no one here told them Bye Bye
I don't even know that group they are talking about.
And No I don't use them.
And I sent them the link to this forum so they can come here to say it like it is.All I want to know is the truth also that's all.
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The truth is what I would like to see also but why be so incredibly sarcastic about it? We are all well over the age of 21 here .
All that needed to be said was : Where's the proof ? pretty simple.
All that needed to be said was : Where's the proof ? pretty simple.
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This is true.
Where's the proof
I wish Lisa can tell us what she thinks of all this.
A former BPU member that left them.
I don't recall anyone asking Sissy to leave, just her saying she would resign... did I miss something? I didn't say 'good riddance' or anything like that, I asked her to stay and produce.
edit: And you know I don't pull punches on either side. Call it sarcastic on my part, c'est la vie, I call it chickensmack to talk @#$% about a company without having the fortitude to back up the allegations. I don't have to play nice, just fair.
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Neither do I
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I don't understand why you 3 have taken it upon yourselves to defend this group . Should'nt they care enough about their reputation to come and post themselves ? One generic post in 7 pages from their rep reeks . You all have said you know little about each group either way ....same as me . I cannot see the point in taking sides when they can speak for themselves Obviosly they don't care what anyone thinks .
P.s. and if you all plan on ganging up on me I could really care less.
P.s. and if you all plan on ganging up on me I could really care less.
Silk, I don't want to argue with you.
I really don't see why you are looking at this the way you are. I'm not defending anybody. I simply ask for facts, not inuendos and allusions.
What are the points here so we can have a menaingful debate if we're on seperate sides of the issue.
I say it doesn't matter, no one has a right to play anywhere. Sure, that behavior from a sight would indicate there might be problems, but it doesn't violate any terms of business. Does it?
I don't know, but I say 'show me'
If navymom or sissy or any other BPU player can show that they have not been paid because they posted about these sites, well, then the rep can come back and state his case, or the player can PaB (I think) and we can find out the bottom line.
There were 'accusations' made of impropriety and they haven't been backed up. The 'accusers' stopped posting when asked to back up their claims.
I really don't see why you are looking at this the way you are. I'm not defending anybody. I simply ask for facts, not inuendos and allusions.
What are the points here so we can have a menaingful debate if we're on seperate sides of the issue.
- Someone said this group bans players for 'talking' about them.
- The site says, 'not so.'
I say it doesn't matter, no one has a right to play anywhere. Sure, that behavior from a sight would indicate there might be problems, but it doesn't violate any terms of business. Does it?
- It has been alluded to that these sites locked players accounts with money in them because the players 'spoke against' the casinos
- The rep says, 'not so'
I don't know, but I say 'show me'
If navymom or sissy or any other BPU player can show that they have not been paid because they posted about these sites, well, then the rep can come back and state his case, or the player can PaB (I think) and we can find out the bottom line.
There were 'accusations' made of impropriety and they haven't been backed up. The 'accusers' stopped posting when asked to back up their claims.
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I am not arguing with anyone at all .
I agree , If they have proof then post it .
I will say though that sometimes things are true even if you have no proof. I haven't seen the bingo post proof of what they are alleging either.
I agree , If they have proof then post it .
I will say though that sometimes things are true even if you have no proof. I haven't seen the bingo post proof of what they are alleging either.
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I can careless really but I'm just looking at it for the players that just might join this bingo group that read this.
And I don't even promote them.Maybe I should lol
To clear this up we shall see if they do come back with a reply to all this.The Rep from that Bingo site that is.
The BPU are known to pop in at times to start a Campaign or something I think for some gain to make people think they are better than anyone.They use to make a big deal at WOL awhile ago.and they get something hot and they leave it for the members here to see what kind of shit they can start lol
I got banned from that BPU because I put my 2 cents in at one time.I think they should change the name to BPCBU.
And I don't even promote them.Maybe I should lol
To clear this up we shall see if they do come back with a reply to all this.The Rep from that Bingo site that is.
The BPU are known to pop in at times to start a Campaign or something I think for some gain to make people think they are better than anyone.They use to make a big deal at WOL awhile ago.and they get something hot and they leave it for the members here to see what kind of shit they can start lol
I got banned from that BPU because I put my 2 cents in at one time.I think they should change the name to BPCBU.
OMG, to censor dissenting opinion and then to cry 'freedom of speech'.
Are you sure you didn't flame, or insult, or post a nekkid pic to get kicked off? Because if you were booted just for giving your two cents worth, I won't even reply to the hypocrisy of the 'speech' issue if anyone from BPU posts here again.
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I really don't know.
All I know it was over bull&^%$
But to tell you the truth It's no great loss.
I bet if Lisa comes here she will tell it like it is about that group.
'freedom of speech'
what's that.
And if I did post a pic it would be a Crying Baby
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All I know it was over bull&^%$
But to tell you the truth It's no great loss.
I bet if Lisa comes here she will tell it like it is about that group.
'freedom of speech'
what's that.And if I did post a pic it would be a Crying Baby
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Here is a update Thank You Cyalater8
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Meister's circus
It's no circus here all we want is the truth behind all this.
The Proof that's all.
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It's no circus here all we want is the truth behind all this.
The Proof that's all.
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I was at first impressed by what I was reading, but it seemed to go a little overboard in the 'troll' red herring, (confusion and 'ad hominem' attack rather than issue).
I would hope that the admin there (because I laud what they are doing if true, and no reason to not believe it is not true) will pursue the issue, sort the object from the subject, and report the results. They don't seem to want to do it here, and that's okay I guess.
I know very little of Bingo sites other than (in my opinion, based on limited experience) that many seem to be hoaky. If somebody is out there, being a voice for the unlearned and learned, bully, boowah, HO!!! They have my support.
But if someone is selling crappy burgers in my neighborhood, and I'm an advocate for the consumer, I'm going to leverage my influence by taking each side of the issue seriously before I let an associate lay claims of salmonilla. And if the meatguy comes around and denies everything, I'm going to publish, concisely, the facts that are contrary to his statements.
Maybe BPU will do the same.
Not many people are altruistic in these discussions. And motive means a lot. Follow the money, even if the path is twisted.
wildheart can't be painted as a shill or affiliate so must be a troll. Bingo might have bone to chew, but isn't ashilliated, and me? I'm just an enigma and can disappear from these discussions anytime with no regret.
I would hope that the admin there (because I laud what they are doing if true, and no reason to not believe it is not true) will pursue the issue, sort the object from the subject, and report the results. They don't seem to want to do it here, and that's okay I guess.
I know very little of Bingo sites other than (in my opinion, based on limited experience) that many seem to be hoaky. If somebody is out there, being a voice for the unlearned and learned, bully, boowah, HO!!! They have my support.
But if someone is selling crappy burgers in my neighborhood, and I'm an advocate for the consumer, I'm going to leverage my influence by taking each side of the issue seriously before I let an associate lay claims of salmonilla. And if the meatguy comes around and denies everything, I'm going to publish, concisely, the facts that are contrary to his statements.
Maybe BPU will do the same.
Not many people are altruistic in these discussions. And motive means a lot. Follow the money, even if the path is twisted.
wildheart can't be painted as a shill or affiliate so must be a troll. Bingo might have bone to chew, but isn't ashilliated, and me? I'm just an enigma and can disappear from these discussions anytime with no regret.
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Exactly! I do not see anyone defending CB Corp. All I see is people asking for "facts".
Regards,
The Troll
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Wild Heart You Troll
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What a complete waste of 8 pages of memory on the server. I'm sorry I ever looked in the bingo section. Never again my friends.
Don't be so hasty, there may be something here.
Grammas could be getting ripped off, and others may be blowing dark smoke. We don't know.
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It has been brought to my attention that I started something I had intended to walk away from for no other reason than I did not want to deal with BingoT and his snide remarks. I stand corrected. I did have a mission when I came in here, and I still do. I will try to address questions put to me and not create a novel, although sometimes short answers do not get the job done. Please bear with me.
lojo said:
I am sure you have read all kinds of things about BPU, some true and some not.. I cannot answer this particular question for you.
lojo said:
... yes you are so right, the sites can do whatever they want , whenever they want. For me, the "freedom of speech" is just the tip of the iceberg. I believe that this "inhome entertainment" as it has been called by sites make ALL the rules. It is the players choice whether to play there or not. I feel it is my responsibility as a watchdog to make the bingo playing community aware of new rules and decisions made by these sites. I feel now and always have that if a site is implemnting a "new" rule, that players should be made aware of it. It would be great if they knew BEFORE that rule goes into effect.
lojo said:
With due respect, what other story could there be? For instance, I could tell about my bad experience at any forum about any site. IF that site takes that "review" as bad mouthing, and then decided to close my account, whether there is money in it or not, I believe that is wrong! Just because we want to play bingo from the comfort of our homes is not reason to sell our soul to do so. Far be it from me to rock the boats of any players who are happy with these newly implemented, unannounced rules. At the same time, it is my right to advise players what HAS happened to just one or to ten million players at any given site. Is it so wrong to let the sites know that we do not agree with what they are doing?
For the time being, I will pass commenting on major portion of the letter from CB management. I am in the process of going throught every thread and every complaint in BPU to ascertain what we said was true. I called myself doing that before I posted here, but I am being very thorough so I do not have to do it again. NavyMom has posted proof here that she was definitely a victim of "account closed due to activities in open forum". Please do not treat that like it is unimportant. One player issue is JUST as important as 100. I must also ask myself, how many players have NOT spoken publicly because these sites CAN opt to close their accounts if they do. In my opinion, that is blackmail, pure and simple.
As a player anywhere, I believe if a site, whether poker or bingo, closed your account, with no explanation, no prior notice, and absolutely NO support response, it may tend to make you angry and indignant. I know it would me.
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Nor do I understand or condone it. Obviously their software CAN recognize it, otherwise their reason for closing these accounts due to "multiple account abuse" would be null and void now wouldn't it?
When sites refuse to answer inquiries, or respond to player issues, I get frustrated. Handling things like this "professionally" would be a pleasure to me! These players pay for the right to play at these sites. They should at least have the courtesy of prior notice and an explanation from the sites who are paying their help and banking the profits from this players funds before closing down their accounts.
I see members here at Meisters have "thanked" CB corp for their post that states "it should be noted that one of the primary reasons is that they were all interrelated accounts and in violation of multiple account rules among other things". Please read this carefully... ONE of the primary reasons, and AMONG OTHER THINGS would be of major concern to me if I were the player whose account had been closed. It is a major concern to me and I am not a player. What is "among other things"??? What are the other "primary reasons"?
lojo said:
Thank you lojo. You are correct. I apologize and will do my best to follow up and finish what I started.
silk print said:
I am not an affiliate with any site. That takes a $$$$ investment, and I have not made one.
lojo said:
I can just about hear the snickering, but I have to say, I do not even know what a PaB is. If you care to explain I will gladly add to my education by listening and learning. Thanks. Sissy still has a lot to learn about these forums and the job she does. If I ever get finished learning, I will be done. Thanks for the pointers. I have come a long way in 3 years. Still a very long road ahead.
I have been around long enough to recognize "control damage" personnel. The reason I posted here was to get attention on this issue. I do believe I stated that in my first post. Looking at the number of views it has had, it is definitely getting some attention. Another reason to post here is the lack of response from the CB Corporation. This is not the first and will not be the last time I have to go to these measures just to get an answer from management of a bingo site. They like to pretend I don't exist. Well I do! I have a right to my opinions the same as all of you. I make a point of believing what I post due to "proof" or the word of a trusted individual.
I have been approached by players who are in fact running scams on a bingo site. When I find that. I post it. When it is my opinion that the sites are running a scam on a players I will also post that! Sometimes documentation is asked to be kept confidential and I will always honor that. When I can post it I do.
My apologies for my unprofessional and "moment of anger" resignation, but I am so tired of some posters here picking apart everything I say or do, at the moment I posted it, it seemed like the right thing to do to keep from saying something I would be sorry for. I will address that in another thread, so as to not lose site of the reason this one was started. I will be posting more information and an in depth review of all threads at BPU concerning the "players accounts closed due to posting in public forums" as soon as I can have it ready and hopefully, above reproach.
lojo said:
I am sure you have read all kinds of things about BPU, some true and some not.. I cannot answer this particular question for you.
lojo said:
... yes you are so right, the sites can do whatever they want , whenever they want. For me, the "freedom of speech" is just the tip of the iceberg. I believe that this "inhome entertainment" as it has been called by sites make ALL the rules. It is the players choice whether to play there or not. I feel it is my responsibility as a watchdog to make the bingo playing community aware of new rules and decisions made by these sites. I feel now and always have that if a site is implemnting a "new" rule, that players should be made aware of it. It would be great if they knew BEFORE that rule goes into effect.
lojo said:
With due respect, what other story could there be? For instance, I could tell about my bad experience at any forum about any site. IF that site takes that "review" as bad mouthing, and then decided to close my account, whether there is money in it or not, I believe that is wrong! Just because we want to play bingo from the comfort of our homes is not reason to sell our soul to do so. Far be it from me to rock the boats of any players who are happy with these newly implemented, unannounced rules. At the same time, it is my right to advise players what HAS happened to just one or to ten million players at any given site. Is it so wrong to let the sites know that we do not agree with what they are doing?
For the time being, I will pass commenting on major portion of the letter from CB management. I am in the process of going throught every thread and every complaint in BPU to ascertain what we said was true. I called myself doing that before I posted here, but I am being very thorough so I do not have to do it again. NavyMom has posted proof here that she was definitely a victim of "account closed due to activities in open forum". Please do not treat that like it is unimportant. One player issue is JUST as important as 100. I must also ask myself, how many players have NOT spoken publicly because these sites CAN opt to close their accounts if they do. In my opinion, that is blackmail, pure and simple.
As a player anywhere, I believe if a site, whether poker or bingo, closed your account, with no explanation, no prior notice, and absolutely NO support response, it may tend to make you angry and indignant. I know it would me.
silk print said:
Nor do I understand or condone it. Obviously their software CAN recognize it, otherwise their reason for closing these accounts due to "multiple account abuse" would be null and void now wouldn't it?
When sites refuse to answer inquiries, or respond to player issues, I get frustrated. Handling things like this "professionally" would be a pleasure to me! These players pay for the right to play at these sites. They should at least have the courtesy of prior notice and an explanation from the sites who are paying their help and banking the profits from this players funds before closing down their accounts.
I see members here at Meisters have "thanked" CB corp for their post that states "it should be noted that one of the primary reasons is that they were all interrelated accounts and in violation of multiple account rules among other things". Please read this carefully... ONE of the primary reasons, and AMONG OTHER THINGS would be of major concern to me if I were the player whose account had been closed. It is a major concern to me and I am not a player. What is "among other things"??? What are the other "primary reasons"?
lojo said:
Thank you lojo. You are correct. I apologize and will do my best to follow up and finish what I started.
silk print said:
I am not an affiliate with any site. That takes a $$$$ investment, and I have not made one.
lojo said:
I can just about hear the snickering, but I have to say, I do not even know what a PaB is. If you care to explain I will gladly add to my education by listening and learning. Thanks. Sissy still has a lot to learn about these forums and the job she does. If I ever get finished learning, I will be done. Thanks for the pointers. I have come a long way in 3 years. Still a very long road ahead.
I have been around long enough to recognize "control damage" personnel. The reason I posted here was to get attention on this issue. I do believe I stated that in my first post. Looking at the number of views it has had, it is definitely getting some attention. Another reason to post here is the lack of response from the CB Corporation. This is not the first and will not be the last time I have to go to these measures just to get an answer from management of a bingo site. They like to pretend I don't exist. Well I do! I have a right to my opinions the same as all of you. I make a point of believing what I post due to "proof" or the word of a trusted individual.
I have been approached by players who are in fact running scams on a bingo site. When I find that. I post it. When it is my opinion that the sites are running a scam on a players I will also post that! Sometimes documentation is asked to be kept confidential and I will always honor that. When I can post it I do.
My apologies for my unprofessional and "moment of anger" resignation, but I am so tired of some posters here picking apart everything I say or do, at the moment I posted it, it seemed like the right thing to do to keep from saying something I would be sorry for. I will address that in another thread, so as to not lose site of the reason this one was started. I will be posting more information and an in depth review of all threads at BPU concerning the "players accounts closed due to posting in public forums" as soon as I can have it ready and hopefully, above reproach.
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As am I. Thank you Sissy for your reply.
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Sissy I say the same.
This back Stabing shit has to stop.
And just maybe this bingo group will reply to all this again and get it all done and over with.
That was the best reply from you I have ever seen.
Thank You
This back Stabing shit has to stop.
And just maybe this bingo group will reply to all this again and get it all done and over with.
That was the best reply from you I have ever seen.
Thank You
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I have been up all night researching BPU for facts that are pertinent to our accusations that the
CB Corp are abusing their "risk management" rule. After reading and rereading the post by CB Corp, listening to input and requests for proof. I have limited this post to only complaints about these sites, and the outcome. I believe the "risk management" is such a blanket rule, that NO ONE has explained in a satisfactory manner to any players affected by it, that it could cover whatever does not have a "category". We have shown proof of one players accounts (NavyMom) closed. I have shown many players who never received their withdrawal requests for a number of reasons. Some never knew why they didn't get theirs because management never responded to them.
There are several who actually did get their monies, but had to jump through hoops and wait until the site involved was good and ready to pay them. If the following information is not enough to show someone how business is run at the CB Corp games, I guess I will have to dig deeper.
There are other issues concerning account closures that do not involve CB Corp, but believe me, I am compiling a list of all players who have been banned from chat or had accounts closed and for what reasons. Inquiring minds might want to know. All posted is as of this minute.. if anything new happens I will update.
NavyMom:
Accounts closed by BingoSky specifically for being a member at BPU.
Dannyboy29:
Account closed by CyberBingo
your account(s) and all accounts affiliated to you (predominantly with the Dixon last name) have been closed from our website and all partner websites. Your account did not receive a favourable score from our risk management department after undergoing a risk assessment check.
Danny is still waiting for his pay out due to UNAUTHORIZED debits by CyberBingo on his account 110 Lira. Danny provided us with screen shots of his banking acct.
Golfnuts: BingoZest, CyberBingo and DailyExpress bingo.uk
accounts closed, reason given "Risk Management"
owed 2oolbs
No response from support AT ALL.
ANTZ: bingoexpress bingo.uk closed accounts of husband and wife
reason: because we said the site looked like another one we go in lol thats all, no warning nothing just got disabled
mozza: account closed at bingosky & bingo zest... she posted proof (email from manager Justin Clarke & email from Zest ANNA in support)
reason: risk management
westie: unpaid wins by bingozest I have proof in the form of emails to westie from Bingozest
Player won 1/2 of a TOH coverall. Amount $2500.00 (his part)
bingozest was emailed several times and westie finally got a reply saying it was an error and the wrong pattern had played. He was offered $250. as a token apology for a $2500.00 win. Zest implied that
Westie was aware it was a wrong pattern. At the time the game played, he was on prebuy and not even at his computer playing the game. His win was also listed in the newsletter as top winner for the week.
I never received ONE response from Jason on this issue and as far as I know Westie was never paid. Eventually his account was closed.
eveofpeace: BingoZest non payment of a $5000.00 win
Never a response of any kind from Jason the manager of BingoZest.
To my knowledge, she never received this payout.
I believe there were some statement(s) about me calling CB Corp site liars...
1/ Copied/pasted from LiveChat at Bingo Sky just a few minutes ago...
Breanna: Welcome to BingoSKY Support. How may I help you today?
you: Hi, I need some information about your site
you: I heard you were a sister site of Cyberbingo to which I also belong and am afraid I might be breaking a 'multiple accounts' rule if you are
Breanna: No, we are a stand alone site
2/ Posted proof message from Zest in response to a question about Zest being "related to any other sites "
"First off, there are no related called "sister sites" BingoZEST.COM is its own entity, we do not believe in the affiliate programme which saturates the industry. As regards the inconveniences you have experienced ALL of these are been followed closely since day one and FULLY investigated, promptly a response will be originated. Any inquiries regarding pay outs must be addressed directly through our management staff, where a very HIGH security breach is placed tracing multiple accounts.
Penguin: Complaint with BingoZest.. non payment of $100.00 win
Email Proof....
"Manager" at bingozest confirmed Penguin had multiple accounts and froze his payments. He was told it was "totally illegal" to have multiple accounts and that "by law" they should inform the gaming authorities and payment platforms about Pens actions. He was asked to apologize to CM's for "comments made" and to take FULL responsibility due to "your act in multiple accounts".
Next.. account disabled. Then opened... next chat disabled... reason...
"When there are no funds to play with chatting with your friends become pointless" said by CM to Penguin in trouble ticket.
The multiple account decision was overturned and put behind them.
He got his payout on March 12 for $114.95. the first request for withdrawal was made on or about Jan 22. It took almost two months and an incredible amount of time, perseverance and an incredibly shabby treatment by Zest management and support on this issue.
Josie: Express Bingo .uk complaint... non payment of winnings 100 Lira(email and tt proof sent by Josie)
first posted complaint Sept 22, o7....NO response from management .
She eventually did receive her payout Oct 20, 2007. Another month nearly to process a $100.00 payout!
Far King Oats: Complaint: BingoZest site closed with $278 in Far's account. June 10,2007
reason: When Zest "closed" Far was in the hospital. When trying to login to Zest, he was rerouted to Alpha Bingo. The same thing happened to me SEVERAL times. Alpha told him they had nothing to do with bingozest. He states that he sent "much correspondence since March (2007) to management and never received one reply.
Debbiemf: BingoZest complaint non payment of $5000. withdrawal request
as far as I know, she never did get paid, but according to other players, her name was also added to the
"winners" advertisement portion Zest site.
Kwinkle: complaint CyberBingo not paying out 4-13-07 ($200.00)
(according to player) Denial first because of multiple accounts.
Second denial was because she hadn't deposited. 25 minutes after she posted this
info at BPU, she states.."all of the sudden today I am able to deposit with a card I have tried to use over and over, since the new legislation and it was denied...all of a sudden it works? weird".
Never ONE response from management despite many emails and TT.
Martiman: BingoZest complaint non payment of 110. Lira withdrawal request
We had only one post from this member, but I feel it necessary and fair to listen to
what (s)he has to say. Also complaints of NON RESPONSE.
bingomamma: CyberBingo non pay complaint 3-23-07 $5000.00
Payment requested 2-26-07. Management told her on 3-01-07. On 3-08-07 she tells us her cashout
has FINALLY been approved and it would take 3-5 business days to get to her. Then she gets... NO response from her many emails. We are 2 days shy of a month waiting for her payout.
Her emails show that on 3-23-07 she was FINALLY asked for more banking information, while all the time looking at her picture and quotes as a HUGE winner rode on the winners page at Cyber Bingo. On 3-26 momma posted that she was informed her ATM card had been mailed to her and she "should get it this week".
(Second "runaround").
On 3-31-07 bingomamma received her ATM card. She emailed the manager to let him know and received a reply that her card was activated and funds were loaded. She went to ATM to withdraw and her transaction was denied. She checked the balance and it was negative $4.00. Emailed manager.. no response yet.
04-03-07 Funds FINALLY loaded on card. Took from 02-26-07 through 04-03-07.
CB Corp are abusing their "risk management" rule. After reading and rereading the post by CB Corp, listening to input and requests for proof. I have limited this post to only complaints about these sites, and the outcome. I believe the "risk management" is such a blanket rule, that NO ONE has explained in a satisfactory manner to any players affected by it, that it could cover whatever does not have a "category". We have shown proof of one players accounts (NavyMom) closed. I have shown many players who never received their withdrawal requests for a number of reasons. Some never knew why they didn't get theirs because management never responded to them.
There are several who actually did get their monies, but had to jump through hoops and wait until the site involved was good and ready to pay them. If the following information is not enough to show someone how business is run at the CB Corp games, I guess I will have to dig deeper.
There are other issues concerning account closures that do not involve CB Corp, but believe me, I am compiling a list of all players who have been banned from chat or had accounts closed and for what reasons. Inquiring minds might want to know. All posted is as of this minute.. if anything new happens I will update.
NavyMom:
Accounts closed by BingoSky specifically for being a member at BPU.
Dannyboy29:
Account closed by CyberBingo
your account(s) and all accounts affiliated to you (predominantly with the Dixon last name) have been closed from our website and all partner websites. Your account did not receive a favourable score from our risk management department after undergoing a risk assessment check.
Danny is still waiting for his pay out due to UNAUTHORIZED debits by CyberBingo on his account 110 Lira. Danny provided us with screen shots of his banking acct.
Golfnuts: BingoZest, CyberBingo and DailyExpress bingo.uk
accounts closed, reason given "Risk Management"
owed 2oolbs
No response from support AT ALL.
ANTZ: bingoexpress bingo.uk closed accounts of husband and wife
reason: because we said the site looked like another one we go in lol thats all, no warning nothing just got disabled
mozza: account closed at bingosky & bingo zest... she posted proof (email from manager Justin Clarke & email from Zest ANNA in support)
reason: risk management
westie: unpaid wins by bingozest I have proof in the form of emails to westie from Bingozest
Player won 1/2 of a TOH coverall. Amount $2500.00 (his part)
bingozest was emailed several times and westie finally got a reply saying it was an error and the wrong pattern had played. He was offered $250. as a token apology for a $2500.00 win. Zest implied that
Westie was aware it was a wrong pattern. At the time the game played, he was on prebuy and not even at his computer playing the game. His win was also listed in the newsletter as top winner for the week.
I never received ONE response from Jason on this issue and as far as I know Westie was never paid. Eventually his account was closed.
eveofpeace: BingoZest non payment of a $5000.00 win
Never a response of any kind from Jason the manager of BingoZest.
To my knowledge, she never received this payout.
I believe there were some statement(s) about me calling CB Corp site liars...
1/ Copied/pasted from LiveChat at Bingo Sky just a few minutes ago...
Breanna: Welcome to BingoSKY Support. How may I help you today?
you: Hi, I need some information about your site
you: I heard you were a sister site of Cyberbingo to which I also belong and am afraid I might be breaking a 'multiple accounts' rule if you are
Breanna: No, we are a stand alone site
2/ Posted proof message from Zest in response to a question about Zest being "related to any other sites "
"First off, there are no related called "sister sites" BingoZEST.COM is its own entity, we do not believe in the affiliate programme which saturates the industry. As regards the inconveniences you have experienced ALL of these are been followed closely since day one and FULLY investigated, promptly a response will be originated. Any inquiries regarding pay outs must be addressed directly through our management staff, where a very HIGH security breach is placed tracing multiple accounts.
Penguin: Complaint with BingoZest.. non payment of $100.00 win
Email Proof....
"Manager" at bingozest confirmed Penguin had multiple accounts and froze his payments. He was told it was "totally illegal" to have multiple accounts and that "by law" they should inform the gaming authorities and payment platforms about Pens actions. He was asked to apologize to CM's for "comments made" and to take FULL responsibility due to "your act in multiple accounts".
Next.. account disabled. Then opened... next chat disabled... reason...
"When there are no funds to play with chatting with your friends become pointless" said by CM to Penguin in trouble ticket.
The multiple account decision was overturned and put behind them.
He got his payout on March 12 for $114.95. the first request for withdrawal was made on or about Jan 22. It took almost two months and an incredible amount of time, perseverance and an incredibly shabby treatment by Zest management and support on this issue.
Josie: Express Bingo .uk complaint... non payment of winnings 100 Lira(email and tt proof sent by Josie)
first posted complaint Sept 22, o7....NO response from management .
She eventually did receive her payout Oct 20, 2007. Another month nearly to process a $100.00 payout!
Far King Oats: Complaint: BingoZest site closed with $278 in Far's account. June 10,2007
reason: When Zest "closed" Far was in the hospital. When trying to login to Zest, he was rerouted to Alpha Bingo. The same thing happened to me SEVERAL times. Alpha told him they had nothing to do with bingozest. He states that he sent "much correspondence since March (2007) to management and never received one reply.
Debbiemf: BingoZest complaint non payment of $5000. withdrawal request
as far as I know, she never did get paid, but according to other players, her name was also added to the
"winners" advertisement portion Zest site.
Kwinkle: complaint CyberBingo not paying out 4-13-07 ($200.00)
(according to player) Denial first because of multiple accounts.
Second denial was because she hadn't deposited. 25 minutes after she posted this
info at BPU, she states.."all of the sudden today I am able to deposit with a card I have tried to use over and over, since the new legislation and it was denied...all of a sudden it works? weird".
Never ONE response from management despite many emails and TT.
Martiman: BingoZest complaint non payment of 110. Lira withdrawal request
We had only one post from this member, but I feel it necessary and fair to listen to
what (s)he has to say. Also complaints of NON RESPONSE.
bingomamma: CyberBingo non pay complaint 3-23-07 $5000.00
Payment requested 2-26-07. Management told her on 3-01-07. On 3-08-07 she tells us her cashout
has FINALLY been approved and it would take 3-5 business days to get to her. Then she gets... NO response from her many emails. We are 2 days shy of a month waiting for her payout.
Her emails show that on 3-23-07 she was FINALLY asked for more banking information, while all the time looking at her picture and quotes as a HUGE winner rode on the winners page at Cyber Bingo. On 3-26 momma posted that she was informed her ATM card had been mailed to her and she "should get it this week".
(Second "runaround").
On 3-31-07 bingomamma received her ATM card. She emailed the manager to let him know and received a reply that her card was activated and funds were loaded. She went to ATM to withdraw and her transaction was denied. She checked the balance and it was negative $4.00. Emailed manager.. no response yet.
04-03-07 Funds FINALLY loaded on card. Took from 02-26-07 through 04-03-07.
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Sissy,
If I am understanding correctly. Only two players are waiting on payouts? A few others you're not sure about due to they haven't updated you? So the two players are Dannyboy29: owed 110 and Golfnuts: owed 200. Is this correct? If so, maybe sending an email to the site to inquire about the status of these two payouts? Anyway is it possible the hold up is due to multiple accounts?
If I am understanding correctly. Only two players are waiting on payouts? A few others you're not sure about due to they haven't updated you? So the two players are Dannyboy29: owed 110 and Golfnuts: owed 200. Is this correct? If so, maybe sending an email to the site to inquire about the status of these two payouts? Anyway is it possible the hold up is due to multiple accounts?
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Westie was never paid.. 2500.00
eveofpeace was never paid..5000.00
debbiemf was never paid.. 5000.00
I hope you didn't overlook those players and their amounts due.
Thanks for your suggestions to email the site. I honestly do not know how much more plain I can make this statement... The site managers from Cyberbingo OR Bingozest will NOT respond. They make a blanket statement like the one that was put here, but NO RESPONSE at all to personal emails, either to my queries OR from the player.
When I am asked for help on an issue, I require the party with the complaint to forward notice to the site involved that they have asked for our (BPU) help and are giving their permission for this site to correspond or "work with us" on a particular issue. I fully understand the rules about not discussing player accounts with anyone not connected to this account.
With every issue, I try to be as professional as I know how... to begin with. With every email I send and get no response to, I get more frustrated. The frustration turns to anger. Players pleas for any kind of response with no acknowledgement makes me even more angry. The final stage of my efforts for some kind of answers to these complaints is to post publicly, being honest and truthful, providing documented proof and/or a players word about what is happening.
Now I will ask you a few questions, if I may. What would you do? Am I to just let these issues be buried or ignored? Is there anyone else out there I can go to for help to resolve them? Have you ever fought for a player to see that he/she will at least get some kind of answers even if not the ones they are hoping to see, being treated like you are invisible?
I realize these sites we have under the spotlight do not like the position they are put in. They do not like us bringing it out in the open because negative feed does not do their business any good. There is an easy... VERY easy "fix" to this. Take care of your paying player issues and the forums won't be contacted for their help!
Without player funds they are dead meat and they know it! I did not create these issues, but in good conscience I cannot let them go unaddressed. I was one of those players. I know how it feels. So I continue to do what I do. Being ignored does not make issues go away. Addressing them and working toward equal satisfaction does.
eveofpeace was never paid..5000.00
debbiemf was never paid.. 5000.00
I hope you didn't overlook those players and their amounts due.
Thanks for your suggestions to email the site. I honestly do not know how much more plain I can make this statement... The site managers from Cyberbingo OR Bingozest will NOT respond. They make a blanket statement like the one that was put here, but NO RESPONSE at all to personal emails, either to my queries OR from the player.
When I am asked for help on an issue, I require the party with the complaint to forward notice to the site involved that they have asked for our (BPU) help and are giving their permission for this site to correspond or "work with us" on a particular issue. I fully understand the rules about not discussing player accounts with anyone not connected to this account.
With every issue, I try to be as professional as I know how... to begin with. With every email I send and get no response to, I get more frustrated. The frustration turns to anger. Players pleas for any kind of response with no acknowledgement makes me even more angry. The final stage of my efforts for some kind of answers to these complaints is to post publicly, being honest and truthful, providing documented proof and/or a players word about what is happening.
Now I will ask you a few questions, if I may. What would you do? Am I to just let these issues be buried or ignored? Is there anyone else out there I can go to for help to resolve them? Have you ever fought for a player to see that he/she will at least get some kind of answers even if not the ones they are hoping to see, being treated like you are invisible?
I realize these sites we have under the spotlight do not like the position they are put in. They do not like us bringing it out in the open because negative feed does not do their business any good. There is an easy... VERY easy "fix" to this. Take care of your paying player issues and the forums won't be contacted for their help!
Without player funds they are dead meat and they know it! I did not create these issues, but in good conscience I cannot let them go unaddressed. I was one of those players. I know how it feels. So I continue to do what I do. Being ignored does not make issues go away. Addressing them and working toward equal satisfaction does.
PM'd as well.
Westie was never paid.. 2500.00
eveofpeace was never paid..5000.00
debbiemf was never paid.. 5000.00
Dannyboy29
Golfnuts
CB Corporate Management, do you recognize the account names above? (perhaps they use other aliases as logins, if so, Sissy at BPU can probably help you sort their identities)
It appears that there are unpayed accounts, can you explain this? Account by account? Are these the accounts that were interrelated by address, surname, IP address, etc.?
Also, according to a copied and pasted chat conversation with Navymans-mom (pcwarfare) in a chat with ada @ bingosky she was informed of a "managers note" on here profile that said her account was disabled because of posting on BPU. This is contrary to what you stated to us here. Was this an oversight on your part? Though it is your right to accept or deny any player for any reason as long as they have been paid in full - if this is a policy in your network people should be aware of it and you should be forthcoming about it.
I won't suggest how you should run your business, but is this sort of policy a best management practice? It is a technique used by rogue casinos and could make your operations to appear rogue.
Thank you for taking the time to look into this.
Westie was never paid.. 2500.00
eveofpeace was never paid..5000.00
debbiemf was never paid.. 5000.00
Dannyboy29
Golfnuts
CB Corporate Management, do you recognize the account names above? (perhaps they use other aliases as logins, if so, Sissy at BPU can probably help you sort their identities)
It appears that there are unpayed accounts, can you explain this? Account by account? Are these the accounts that were interrelated by address, surname, IP address, etc.?
Also, according to a copied and pasted chat conversation with Navymans-mom (pcwarfare) in a chat with ada @ bingosky she was informed of a "managers note" on here profile that said her account was disabled because of posting on BPU. This is contrary to what you stated to us here. Was this an oversight on your part? Though it is your right to accept or deny any player for any reason as long as they have been paid in full - if this is a policy in your network people should be aware of it and you should be forthcoming about it.
I won't suggest how you should run your business, but is this sort of policy a best management practice? It is a technique used by rogue casinos and could make your operations to appear rogue.
Thank you for taking the time to look into this.
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I looked at every place you said and I'll tell ya what a joke they all are.
I email ed all of them and some came back to me as unknown address.some are no longer a bingo.and one I seen was a set up for a porn site for you to join.
But the one's I did view I would not even tell a dog to play at.
Some sites are down for an upgrade and they tell ya to play at the sister site Bingo Hall and least I have respect for that one.
All I can say is when the new player looks at what I have seen I would think they can tell they are shady right from the start and not drop a dime in any of them.
This is why you have to play at one's that been around for sometime.
If a Bingo Site looks like crap stay far away.
I email ed all of them and some came back to me as unknown address.some are no longer a bingo.and one I seen was a set up for a porn site for you to join.
But the one's I did view I would not even tell a dog to play at.
Some sites are down for an upgrade and they tell ya to play at the sister site Bingo Hall and least I have respect for that one.
All I can say is when the new player looks at what I have seen I would think they can tell they are shady right from the start and not drop a dime in any of them.
This is why you have to play at one's that been around for sometime.
If a Bingo Site looks like crap stay far away.
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Worldbingohall.com is down for scheduled maintenance.
We will be back shortly.
In the mean time, please visit our sister site BingoHall where you will receive $5 free when you sign up.
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The Banner was here
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We apologise for any inconvenience caused,
Worldbingohall.com Development team.
I found afew like this.
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At bingoway oh sorry it was on the front page of the site.
This website may contain information, links, images and videos of sexually explicit material.
Permission to enter this Website and to view its contents is strictly limited to consenting adults who affirm that the following conditions apply:
That you are 18 years of age or older, and that you are voluntarily choosing to view and access this content for your own personal use.
That you intend to view the adult material in the privacy of your home, or in a place where there are no other persons viewing this material who are either minors, or who may be offended by viewing such material.
If all of these conditions apply to you, and you would like to continue, you are given permission to enter. If any of these conditions do not apply to you, you are under the age of 18, or such material offends you or if it's illegal to view such material in your community or you would prefer not to continue, please do not enter the website, please click the "exit" button now.
You must be 18 or older to view these pages. If you are not over 18, you are not allowed to view this site.
And I went by this list
Cyberbingo
WorldBingoHall
BingoBunnies
4BingoBingo
4LiveBingo
BingoBingo
BingoJackpots.com
Playbingoonline.com
ZingoBingo
BingoWay
BingoTastic
BingoStorm
MasterBingo
ExclaimBingo
HookedOnBingo
LadyluckBingo
Bahama-Bingo
ArcadeBingo
We will be back shortly.
In the mean time, please visit our sister site BingoHall where you will receive $5 free when you sign up.
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The Banner was here
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We apologise for any inconvenience caused,
Worldbingohall.com Development team.
I found afew like this.
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At bingoway oh sorry it was on the front page of the site.
This website may contain information, links, images and videos of sexually explicit material.
Permission to enter this Website and to view its contents is strictly limited to consenting adults who affirm that the following conditions apply:
That you are 18 years of age or older, and that you are voluntarily choosing to view and access this content for your own personal use.
That you intend to view the adult material in the privacy of your home, or in a place where there are no other persons viewing this material who are either minors, or who may be offended by viewing such material.
If all of these conditions apply to you, and you would like to continue, you are given permission to enter. If any of these conditions do not apply to you, you are under the age of 18, or such material offends you or if it's illegal to view such material in your community or you would prefer not to continue, please do not enter the website, please click the "exit" button now.
You must be 18 or older to view these pages. If you are not over 18, you are not allowed to view this site.
And I went by this list
Cyberbingo
WorldBingoHall
BingoBunnies
4BingoBingo
4LiveBingo
BingoBingo
BingoJackpots.com
Playbingoonline.com
ZingoBingo
BingoWay
BingoTastic
BingoStorm
MasterBingo
ExclaimBingo
HookedOnBingo
LadyluckBingo
Bahama-Bingo
ArcadeBingo
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Does Worldbingohall.com fit into this puzzle somewhere too? I thought the thread was focused on only Bingozest.com, BingoZest.co.uk, AlphaBingo.net, CyberBingo.com, CyberBingo.co.uk , BingoSky.com and dailyexpress-bingo.com.
I thought the thread was focused on only Bingozest.com, BingoZest.co.uk, AlphaBingo.net, CyberBingo.com, CyberBingo.co.uk , BingoSky.com and dailyexpress-bingo.com.
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Most sites that are down for maintenance tell you that if you like you can join a sister site for some reason.
I would say if that person does go and see this and they join that sister site they have to get something for it.
I would say if that person does go and see this and they join that sister site they have to get something for it.
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This is what was saidDoes Worldbingohall.com fit into this puzzle somewhere too?
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I just looked at a few sites on
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Not sure if these sites are really all related?BingoBunnies Cyber bingo
4LiveBingo Cyber bingo
BingoBingo Cyber bingo
BingoWay Cyber bingo
BingoTastic Cyber bingo
BingoStorm Cyber bingo
ExclaimBingo Cyber bingo
HookedOnBingo Cyber bingo
LadyluckBingo Cyber bingo
Bahama-Bingo Doesn't Exist?
4BingoBingo Doesn't exist?
ZingoBingo Doesn't appear to be cyberbingo
ArcadeBingo NOT CYBERBINGO
WorldBingoHall NOT CYBERBINGO
MasterBingo NOT CYBERBINGO
BingoJackpots.com NOT CYBERBINGO
Playbingoonline.com NOT CYBERBINGO
All that say "NOT CYBERBINGO" are actually moot sites that direct to Bingohall/winward group
4LiveBingo Cyber bingo
BingoBingo Cyber bingo
BingoWay Cyber bingo
BingoTastic Cyber bingo
BingoStorm Cyber bingo
ExclaimBingo Cyber bingo
HookedOnBingo Cyber bingo
LadyluckBingo Cyber bingo
Bahama-Bingo Doesn't Exist?
4BingoBingo Doesn't exist?
ZingoBingo Doesn't appear to be cyberbingo
ArcadeBingo NOT CYBERBINGO
WorldBingoHall NOT CYBERBINGO
MasterBingo NOT CYBERBINGO
BingoJackpots.com NOT CYBERBINGO
Playbingoonline.com NOT CYBERBINGO
All that say "NOT CYBERBINGO" are actually moot sites that direct to Bingohall/winward group
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Seems CB Corporation and Cyberbingo Network are not the same company? "Cyberbingo Network" appears to be BingoHall sites. Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) States "The CyberBingo Network Screenshots"
ADMINISTRATIVE PANEL DECISION
The Cyberbingo Corporation v. 207 Media Inc.
Case No. D2005-0714
1. The Parties
Complainant is The Cyberbingo Corporation, St. John’s Antigua, West Indies, Antigua and Barbuda, represented by Gowling Lafleur Henderson, LLP, Canada.
Respondent is 207 Media Inc., Oakville, Canada, represented by Law Office of Tapas K. Pain, Canada.
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ADMINISTRATIVE PANEL DECISION
The Cyberbingo Corporation v. 207 Media Inc.
Case No. D2005-0714
1. The Parties
Complainant is The Cyberbingo Corporation, St. John’s Antigua, West Indies, Antigua and Barbuda, represented by Gowling Lafleur Henderson, LLP, Canada.
Respondent is 207 Media Inc., Oakville, Canada, represented by Law Office of Tapas K. Pain, Canada.
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Looks kind of messy, duntit?
I just gave it a quick scan but it looks like xx and xx developed the parlay bingo software for cyberbingo, left the company, created i-cyberbingo domain that resolved to bingohall. They got spanked and had to resolve to cyberbingo.
Bingohall could possibly do the same thing to cyberbingo for 247bingohall and would probably (depending on origination date) get the same finding against cyberbingo
But I don't know original registration dates so shouldn't speculate.
And it's really none of my business 
I just gave it a quick scan but it looks like xx and xx developed the parlay bingo software for cyberbingo, left the company, created i-cyberbingo domain that resolved to bingohall. They got spanked and had to resolve to cyberbingo.
Bingohall could possibly do the same thing to cyberbingo for 247bingohall and would probably (depending on origination date) get the same finding against cyberbingo
But I don't know original registration dates so shouldn't speculate.
And it's really none of my business
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The way I understand it is, the following sites are NOT "CB Corp" sites. They ARE "Cyberbingo Network"(Bingohall) sites. Which are two separate companies? Someone please correct me If I'm wrong.
BingoBunnies Cyber bingo Network
4LiveBingo Cyber bingo Network
BingoBingo Cyber bingo Network
BingoWay Cyber bingo Network
BingoTastic Cyber bingo Network
BingoStorm Cyber bingo Network
ExclaimBingo Cyber bingo Network
HookedOnBingo Cyber bingo Network
LadyluckBingo Cyber bingo Network
BingoBunnies Cyber bingo Network
4LiveBingo Cyber bingo Network
BingoBingo Cyber bingo Network
BingoWay Cyber bingo Network
BingoTastic Cyber bingo Network
BingoStorm Cyber bingo Network
ExclaimBingo Cyber bingo Network
HookedOnBingo Cyber bingo Network
LadyluckBingo Cyber bingo Network
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