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Microgaming pulling out of the usa online gaming industry?

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by blacklabrador, May 16, 2010.

    May 16, 2010
  1. blacklabrador

    blacklabrador Banned User - chargebacks - multiple banned forum

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    Hi folks! Newbie here, great site so far after reading several threads. I play on 3 online casinos, Riverbelle, Casino Grand Bay and Sportsbook.com. Recently grand bay changed their software from Microgaming to something else. I asked the phone rep why and she said it was due to microgaming pulling out to serve usa customers and it will no longer be around for USA customers.


    Anyone know if there is truth to this? Also wondering what online casinos you prefer, and what software. Sportsbook uses RTG, I think its ok but doesnt seem to pay out as much as microgaming. Thank you for any input!:thumbsup:
     
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  3. SlotMonster

    SlotMonster SoftSwiss Representative webmeister

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  5. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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  7. blacklabrador

    blacklabrador Banned User - chargebacks - multiple banned forum

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    32 red?

    Seems as if 32 red is the casino of choice on here, couple questions.

    1)Do they offer bank wires? I do not like using 3rd parties to get my money, moneybookers, etc etc.

    2. Any USA players ever had trouble getting paid from them? I had an issue with riverbelle when the laws changed and it took months to get paid:mad:

    3) Whats the playthrough on the initial buy in match bonus?

    4) And this is question for casinomeister, I havent seen a site like this in while. Are there any perks on 32 red for being a casinomeister member since you pimp out their casino? lol
     
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  9. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

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    32Red hasn't allowed US play since the UIGEA came into effect, or shortly thereafter.

    I don't believe you will be able to open a new account at ANY MG casino, as things stand now. You are left with whatever existing accounts you may currently have....and after June 1st, probably only those ones which will be using the US version of the MG software.
     
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  11. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    32Red don't take US players unfortunately. Well, no Microgaming casino accepts US players anymore so they're not alone. Unfortunately a by-product of the You must register/login in order to see the link. is that most of the top online casinos pulled out. There's been much discussion here on the irony of a law supposedly designed to protect US citizens putting them more at risk, but there you go. That's politics :oops:
     
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  13. blacklabrador

    blacklabrador Banned User - chargebacks - multiple banned forum

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    That's it, I'm moving to Canada! :lolup: The US has a plethera of issues , yet they continue with their "war against online gaming". How pathetic this country has become in the last 15 years, its ashame.

    So if I continue to play online, I am stuck playing with software that casino management can control how loose the payouts are? At least thats what it appears on the surface after doing some research. I've always played nothing but Microgaming sites, I have a hard time trusting other software. Riverbelle still has it as of now but it appears inevitable that will change soon.:(
     
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  15. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    RTG operators can't change the payout ratios. They used to be able to but the functionality was removed some time ago. Bodog may be an exception as they run a copy of the original RTG source code. Can't speak for Rival casinos though. But unfortunately at the moment those are about your only choices and as you have probably gathered, the slots are mostly high variance (streaky!). You'll probably find about 5,000,000 threads on this issue from the past 6 years or so and I guess this will probably become another one now LOL.

    Bottom line - 1) stick to the Accredited list and at least you know you are in safe hands, 2) if you suspect online casinos rig the results, don't play online and 3) play fair with bonuses.

    On the bright side, things are changing and you may find more choice at some point. I think that's what the market needs. Not a big RTG fan myself and can understand the frustrations but a bit of competition and choice will help everyone.
     
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  17. blacklabrador

    blacklabrador Banned User - chargebacks - multiple banned forum

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    Simmo, where would u recommend a USA player to play at of those on the list?
     
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  19. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    There's a few on there I have played/do play but the very first RTG I ever joined was iNetBet and I've never once had any issue with them. But bear in mind I don't play with bonuses so opinions will differ LOL.
     
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  21. lost2much

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    I just got done with livechat at CR asking about D-day (June 1). The person in chat said that they have no idea what microgaming is going to do and they haven't heard anything as yet. I find it hard to believe that with 2 weeks to go they haven't heard anything. This leads me to believe one of two things:
    1) all will remain status quo and nothing will change or 2) they are staying mum about leaving the US market so as to suck in every last dime until the end. I personally fear that I will go to log in after June 1 and find that the site is either gone or locked. In any event, I won't be depositing until after that date unless the situation becomes crystal clear in the next couple of weeks. Here we go again..
     
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  23. lost2much

    lost2much Banned User

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    I just got a response from Inetbet about this same issue and James tells me that it will be business as usual for them after June 1. Haven't heard from 3Dice yet, by the way did they do away with live chat?? I don't see it offered in the support tab.
     
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  25. cpdnd31

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    enzo was in chat room today and i asked him he said bussiness as usal and they haqve backup solutions upon backup solution so no worries at 3dice.
     
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  27. lost2much

    lost2much Banned User

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    That's good to hear!!
     
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  29. Cant_Get_Right

    Cant_Get_Right Banned User

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    Live MG Support may not know what is going on. I remember a few days before Casino Action group was bought out by Casino Rewards. I was chatting with a lady at Golden Reef casino. I asked her about the buy out rumor. She had no ideal and a few days later.She lost her job due to the buy out.
     
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  31. Cant_Get_Right

    Cant_Get_Right Banned User

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    Also If I were US players. I would be taking the June 1 deadline very seriously. From a little birdie...They are planning on cracking down very hard on depositors who is knowingly breaking the law. Something similar to the laws passed in the State of Washington. You will hear more legislation on this coming real soon.
     
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  33. KasinoKing

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    Did you really mean to type that??? :eek:

    RTG software is the one and only where we know 100% for sure that they can change RTPs.

    KK :confused:
     
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  35. jod5413

    jod5413 Is That Better?

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    KK,

    I believe that Simmo is saying that only RTG, the software provider, can change the RTP. The casino operator itself can not do that.

    So, if the casino operator wants to change the RTP, he has to get in touch with RTG and have them do it.

    I know a lot of folks don't believe that. Me? I would have agreed a few months ago. Now, not so certain.
     
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  37. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Regarding Grand Bay, there are numerous and not very complimentary threads here on this online casino's owners - Grand Prive, which recently changed to Betsoft software and now uses the prefix "bet" in its url.
     
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  39. Simmo!

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    yes thats right...

    Erm...how did we know 100% for sure they could? I'm happy to stand corrected...

    Actually it's the hitherto unheard of BetOnSoft rather than BetSoft, who are also a software provider (licenced in Alderney).
     

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