Microgaming pulling out of the usa online gaming industry?

KK,
I believe that Simmo is saying that only RTG, the software provider, can change the RTP. The casino operator itself can not do that.
Yes, that's right - but who asks RTG to change them!


RTG software is the one and only where we know 100% for sure that they can change RTPs.
Erm...how did we know 100% for sure they could? I'm happy to stand corrected...
Well for starters DogBoy confirmed they can, so did CasinoJack.
It was also stated on RTG's own Game Data Sheets which were available online until about 2 months ago. They have now been taken down (or moved to a secure site?), but not before someone had taken copies of them all... :rolleyes:

Here's an example (Big Shot Slot):-
 
Yes, that's right - but who asks RTG to change them!




Well for starters DogBoy confirmed they can, so did CasinoJack.
It was also stated on RTG's own Game Data Sheets which were available online until about 2 months ago. They have now been taken down (or moved to a secure site?), but not before someone had taken copies of them all... :rolleyes:

Here's an example (Big Shot Slot):-

Yeah well obviously RTG can change them LOL ;) Apparently it works like this: the operators can put in a request with justification, probably the same with any software provider actually, and certainly the same as land based casinos. But a) it takes time to implement, b) the operators cannot change them themselves, c) it is system-wide, not on a player-by-player basis and d) you can't change it on individual slots, only "groups" of slots.

Casinojack's story was either based on an old version of the software no longer in use or he meant RTG change them.
 
Jetset - you can probably answer this, but am I right in thinking that although the UIGEA went through, the original legislation from which is was extracted for a "quick kill" is still potentially on the table?

As you know, the UIGEA went through on the coat tails of essential security legislation, late at night and just before Congress recessed - clever political timing by Bill Frist and Jon Kyl, who were its primary architects and tacticians.

The US legislative scene is so damned convoluted and busy that it's not difficult to lose track of all the proposals and manouevreing, but I seem to recall that before that fateful night's work back in late 2006, there was another piece of legislation, I think by Goodlatte and some other anti-online gambling politico who's name escapes me at present.

In order to avoid as much opposition as possible, this was very carefully crafted to preserve all the inequitable carve-outs for fantasy sports, horse racing and state lotteries in previous proposals, and I think it backed the Wire Act too.

From what I can remember this didn't really go anywhere useful and was sort of eclipsed by the UIGEA. I assume it must have dropped off "time expired" in that session of Congress, but to be honest I lost interest in it as the UIGEA became the dominant anti-online gambling vehicle.

Then there was all that banking and other opposition to the UIGEA and the difficulties that the Treasury and AG departments had in actually framing workable regulations to support the act - that took well over the timetable voted by Congress and even now it's definition of what constitutes an illegal gambling transaction is pretty wooly and much criticised.

The regulations are due for implementation June 1st after being postponed for six months by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner....and it doesn't appear there will be any reprieve this time.

However, as Bryan pointed out earlier in this thread, the Act doesn't penalise players - it's intention is to disrupt or stop financial transactions with "illegal" online gambling companies.

There are widespread fears that banks trying to come to grips with the imprecise definition of what is illegal online gambling will err on the side of caution, resulting in over-blocking and monumental foul ups.

There have already been two state lotteries adversely impacted by over zealous ban decisions, and we're only just getting to the starting gate on this punitive measure.

Edited to add that the feds are touting a recent prosecution of an i-processing manager as the first real UIGEA prosecution. Thirty-six year old Massachusetts resident Todd Lyons is the subject of a criminal prosecution involving 36 counts of racketeering, money laundering, operating an illegal gambling business, interstate travel in aid of racketeering, filing false tax returns and a variety of other related charges, according to the Department of Justice, which unsealed a multi-count indictment last week. (see Casinomeister News for the full report).
 
Wow what a bunch of great responses, thanks folks! I think I am steering clear of microgaming sites for now . Does anyone play on sportsbook.com casino? I enjoy their download casino, not so much the flash casino. And you want to talk about FAST payouts? They wire my money in 2 days, 3 tops after its been processed. Only downfall is they have 1 free withdraw a month, then charge $40 per after that, but I dont mind because I only deposit about 12 times a month. If i cash out a grand, Im fine with the $40 charge ...... I guess.
 
From what I have heard and what I can guess, microgaming software itself stopped taking us players long ago. The casinos that still let their us players play do so behind microgamings back, which is why we haven't been able to download any of the new games. I am thinking grand prive had a falling out about it with microgaming, and my guess is vegas partner lounge casinos are next as they are promising a transition to a us only casino. Sad really, because I for one still like the software even with the old games. i am hoping they don't go with that same crappy software grand prive chose, at least go rtg or something a little interesting. Just my observances on the microgaming issues with usa players, and the little gossip i have heard from my friends in the industry.
 
From what I have heard and what I can guess, microgaming software itself stopped taking us players long ago. The casinos that still let their us players play do so behind microgamings back, which is why we haven't been able to download any of the new games. I am thinking grand prive had a falling out about it with microgaming, and my guess is vegas partner lounge casinos are next as they are promising a transition to a us only casino. Sad really, because I for one still like the software even with the old games. i am hoping they don't go with that same crappy software grand prive chose, at least go rtg or something a little interesting. Just my observances on the microgaming issues with usa players, and the little gossip i have heard from my friends in the industry.

Grand Prive new software is RUBBISH. I played with Grand bay also for years along with riverbelle and when they changed software, i played the free $100 they gave me to try it and I immediately deleted it afterward. That is the worst software I have ever laid eyes on, my goodness.:mad:

I played YEARS ago on English Harbour, I am about to re-download that one and give her another whirl, anyone play on there?
 
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