last night on dead or alive

[interlog]

Would the person that nicked the scatter symbols please be so kind and put them back in the game?

876 to trigger the bonus round which paid an abysmal 33x stake.

Thanks

 

[interlog]

Thank you to the person that put the scatters back. Within 50 spins of posting the above, 2 bonus rounds triggered, each on 4 scatters. Shame the 5th scatter wasn't put back

 

[randomiam]

few weeks

best ive got is a wild line twice and a set of 5 scatters on 18 cent bets been chewed about double the winnings

 

[JackMack]

Well I have contacted UKGC to try and get my Netent stats since I can't get full stats at all casinos.
I would have a rough guess at around 78% RTP over tens of thousands of spins on DOA though I reckon my RTP is well down from expected at NetEnt with well over a millions spins.
On features,
No 5 sticky wilds on winline
Extra 5 spins won twice.
No 5 OAKs of pictured symbols (only 10,J,Q,K,A)
No wins over x500 bet
2 wins over 100 x bet

Main game
Not hit 5 wilds
Not hit 4 wilds
Not hit 5 scatters
5 stars I have hit once.

Gameplay is very predictable.
It is either slaughtered from the off and around 50% RTP
Or
Get a bit of a game at first and then get slaughtered and around 90% RTP

The scatters just disappear after a while and I will just see the occasional one appear until bust LOL.
Rinse repeat over 50 deposits/sessions.
This is some BS game whether it has 95% RTP, the variance seems very manufactured rather than natural. Perfectly legal I'm sure but according to the UKGC 100,000 games is a reasonable sample size to judge RTP so I want to see how my rTP looks once there if I'm not there already.
Seems to me that being around 20 percentage points out of claimed RTP should be an issue at that point unless the operator can explain the variance and discrepancy properly.

 

[asadzareef89]

Well I have contacted UKGC to try and get my Netent stats since I can't get full stats at all casinos.
I would have a rough guess at around 78% RTP over tens of thousands of spins on DOA though I reckon my RTP is well down from expected at NetEnt with well over a millions spins.
On features,
No 5 sticky wilds on winline
Extra 5 spins won twice.
No 5 OAKs of pictured symbols (only 10,J,Q,K,A)
No wins over x500 bet
2 wins over 100 x bet

Main game
Not hit 5 wilds
Not hit 4 wilds
Not hit 5 scatters
5 stars I have hit once.

Gameplay is very predictable.
It is either slaughtered from the off and around 50% RTP
Or
Get a bit of a game at first and then get slaughtered and around 90% RTP

The scatters just disappear after a while and I will just see the occasional one appear until bust LOL.
Rinse repeat over 50 deposits/sessions.
This is some BS game whether it has 95% RTP, the variance seems very manufactured rather than natural. Perfectly legal I'm sure but according to the UKGC 100,000 games is a reasonable sample size to judge RTP so I want to see how my rTP looks once there if I'm not there already.
Seems to me that being around 20 percentage points out of claimed RTP should be an issue at that point unless the operator can explain the variance and discrepancy properly.

I feel for you mate as DOA can be brutal, First year when i played doa i had nothing on it whatsoever with best win of 200x but than i realised that its extremely high variance and since then i have not ever betted more than 0.45p with 100 starting balance. Do occasionaly play 100 - 200 spins at 0.90

It will even out,lower ur bets and increase the number of spins.

My first ever 5 scatters were on 1530 spins continuously without break, and in the 1530 spins i had bonus round only twice, my last wildine came from a 30 starting balance and betting 0.18p i had 487 spins without bonus and then last 10 quid i increased my bet to 0.27 and i got the bonus round and a wildline

Try and do longer sessions with small bets, i have noticed if i have a real bad session on it next day it would give me real good session. Whitebet casino was awful to me on my last 2 deposit with 65 starting balance once and no bonus rounds with bets of 0.27-0.45 n yesterday i made a 20 deposit and 10 bonus which gave me 12 bonus rounds in 300 spins. Did bust out but u get the point(i think)

If u r losing way too much, I would suggest a break as chasing ur losses only end in more losses

 

[interlog]

Other than those sessions where I cashed out (usually twice my deposit at least), the RTP sits on average between 72% and 80% for each session of about 2,000 spins. That is normal for this game I found.

It is when you hit the bonus round and you get the extra 5 spins and win decent, the RTP gets propped up to nearer the game's theoretical RTP of 96.8%

The last time I had a wild line, it took 21,770 spins and 133 features. I was told, here on this forum, that I was lucky to get it this quick. It paid very decent - 4,223x the bet stake of £0.09.

Whether it is co-incidence or not, but I found when playing at smaller stakes (no more than £0.27 a spin) I have had much better play time.

Incidentally, if you check out the link in my signature below and navigate to the "blog/news" section, you can see a diary of my game play of this slot.

PS: It takes one spin with a mega win of 4,000+ stake to take your RTP to over 100%. I guess that is going to be the counter argument from Netent if challenged.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I went the first 6 months without a proper win on DOA before getting the first WL at VS with a 0.45$ bet. This was back in May, since then i had another 7 Wild Lines and 4 x 5 scatter with bets ranging from 0.18 - 4.50.

It surely runs better with smaller bets as i can be cold for hundreds if not thousands of spins. Saves your balance if you ride it out on small bets.

However, my original statement stands. If the slot wants to give you a Wild Line or 5 x scatter it will happen with the first deposit, i usually deposit appr. 150 x my usual bet size, e.g. 150$ and start with 0.90$ bets. Each of my big wins happened like that, never busted out on that first deposit, even when doubling or tripling my bet. It always kept me going until the big hit and it never took more than 500 bets to get there.

However 2 the slot can be absolutely brutal with payouts less than 10 x bet in numerous free spins rounds in a row. Overall, i am ahead on this slot thanks to the Wild Lines and 5 scatters. This is my current standing at Bet-AT:



EDIT: I stand corrected, this is the RTP including the WL i just had:

 

[jackanory2279]

its just robbing me blind now... every time it robs me i say never again...payday comes im back playing.. rinse repeat/
this slot must be the cash cow for casinos

 

[whatwhat]

Well I have contacted UKGC to try and get my Netent stats since I can't get full stats at all casinos.
I would have a rough guess at around 78% RTP over tens of thousands of spins on DOA though I reckon my RTP is well down from expected at NetEnt with well over a millions spins.
On features,
No 5 sticky wilds on winline
Extra 5 spins won twice.
No 5 OAKs of pictured symbols (only 10,J,Q,K,A)
No wins over x500 bet
2 wins over 100 x bet

Main game
Not hit 5 wilds
Not hit 4 wilds
Not hit 5 scatters
5 stars I have hit once.

Gameplay is very predictable.
It is either slaughtered from the off and around 50% RTP
Or
Get a bit of a game at first and then get slaughtered and around 90% RTP

The scatters just disappear after a while and I will just see the occasional one appear until bust LOL.
Rinse repeat over 50 deposits/sessions.
This is some BS game whether it has 95% RTP, the variance seems very manufactured rather than natural. Perfectly legal I'm sure but according to the UKGC 100,000 games is a reasonable sample size to judge RTP so I want to see how my rTP looks once there if I'm not there already.
Seems to me that being around 20 percentage points out of claimed RTP should be an issue at that point unless the operator can explain the variance and discrepancy properly.

Yes im having simular results. In periods i have been playing thousand of spins every day without getting any decent results. And then we have the select few on this forum who seams to get unbelivable wins on a regular basis. Something is just not right.

 

[Harry_BKK]

The legend of DOA

Yes im having simular results. In periods i have been playing thousand of spins every day without getting any decent results. And then we have the select few on this forum who seams to get unbelivable wins on a regular basis. Something is just not right.

Tin foil hats are in fashion as it seems

My stats for the past 8 months since i started playing this slot:

Total spins: appr. 1.5Mio
Average/day: appr. 6300 spins
Wild Lines: 8
5 x Scatter: 5
5 x Sheriffs: 21 (including the double whammies when wild and sheriff star are in the right position on Reel 3)
5 x Revolvers: 9
Other 5 OAK's: countless


Very much in the ball park of appr. 150.000 spins for each wild line or 5 x scatter.

But remember, you can go weeks without even triggering the extra 5 spins let alone have a wild line. Typically on every 10-15 extra free spins i have a wild line, be it within the initial 12 spins or in the extra spins. I went the first appr. 300.000 spins without even triggering the extra spins and about 800.000 spins to hit my first Wild Line, so it requires patience.

I had many sessions with initially 50% RTP or less but then i ride them out with very low bets until i see the slot picking up. This slot definitely needs patience and time, very rarely that you just come in and after a few spins you hit the big one. Had it twice though, one on spin 37 5 x scatter and once Wild Line when bonus triggered on spins 91.

 

[prop82]

I went the first appr. 300.000 spins without even triggering the extra spins and about 800.000 spins to hit my first Wild Line, so it requires patience.

and of course it requires money

 

[whatwhat]

And also this game plays very different on higher stakes. The few times i have been up on this game or winnings from other games i have tried high stakes, 1.80-7.20

Seams every time i raise the stake above 0.90 its a totally different game. It might give me bonus rounds every 30-40 spins and then i raise the stakes and it either does not give a bonus round or the bonus round produces no wilds at all. This seams to repeat every time i try this. As one poster said, something is not right about this game. Its surley not random. With the sheer amount of spins i have done the last 6 months on this game i should have had multiple wildlines.

I must be close to or above 1000 bonus rounds without hitting 5 wilds on a line or 5 scatter.

 

[citizenx]

Over the last couple of days i've seen DOA behave in a way which i've never seen for such a long period of time.

Usually, for me, DOA's "moods" blow hot and cold and varying levels in between but usually, these last only for a few hours at a time.

It seems though, no matter where I play it goes for absolutely ages without a feature. In normal play you expect an average of one set of free spins per 150 spins - sometimes a few more in rapid succession, sometimes a few hundred spins without.

Consistently though, this week, at every site I play what happens is it goes well in excess of 500 spins per bonus and usually throws in 3 or 4 decent looking wilds. No massive pays - 100x/200x max, no wildlines.

Anyone else experiencing similar?

 

[Adriana B]

The most I have ever won on DOA is $40 which quickly got played back. Have played this slot at several casinos and it always produces the same result - a big fat zero. Just played today on Betat as I saw there were quite a few winners on the Summer Betat competition thread but I gave up after I don't know how many spins.

 

[brianmon]

I had a nice 3000+ wild line last week. So I've not pushed my luck too much since
Although the few times I have played it this week, I'm getting the bonus rounds often enough, and quite a lot of 4 scatter triggers, and i'm also getting plenty wilds in the bonus rounds.

BUT, they're either falling where there's already a wild sticking or they're just not lining up to make a wild line.

like this i got at slotty a few hours ago, 9 wilds but no line. Not that I'm complaining about a 897x win, lol

 

[aceking123]

its a hard machine, good luck to anyone who plays it , i get bored within 200 spins & give up , what i can put to rest is ive had the wild one once at guts , i hadnt gotten heavy into at all ( lost funds ) , just my normal blast & run , no different from any other game . but it isnt my first port of call doubt ive clocked over 1k in spins at betat on it , i tend to do batch play on it if nothing happens i don't bother with it

seems to me a lot of people here are chasing it with mixed results ( don't chase it ), redbet another played it the longest there stakes upto 7.20 euros again only a few weeks ago did i get loads of wilds but still no wild line , i would dread to think of how many bonuses rounds i've had there over that span of time & again i've given up on it , short blasts is as far as i would go with this slot anymore , to be honest im sick of seeing dead or alive shots , this machine make some very serious money for all the casinos they may hit but would love to know a years take from this slot.

good luck to anyone that can be bothered to sit via the torture this slot gives you

 

[syntynyt]

its just robbing me blind now... every time it robs me i say never again...payday comes im back playing.. rinse repeat/
this slot must be the cash cow for casinos

same here. i suspect myself of masochism while dressing into tinfoil costume every time i decide to open it. once opened i never leave it with the never ending illusion of 'it's coming, it must do!!' concluding with my avatar. then i log-in here and tell how much i hate it but not before some consumed marathons. also every time i decide to try it at a new casino is the iceberg that hit Titanic. cold and brutal. no features no 5OAK. the same with Wishmaster at new places. after at least 100 spins with 5x max win, will start with x2 or expanding wild, both useless. between scrolls must roll another hundreds of spins leaving a sinkhole in place where once was a balance. these must be seeded a lot before giving a win that matters. at least for me every time with no exception. all the hopes in a fired netents employee that will come and say how this moneythristy volcano is supposed to work.

 

[kerry888]

I cant wait to get a decent play out of this slot lol..

Had some fantastic wins in the past. but been pretty pants the last 3-4 weeks .
Hundreds of spins in between each feature and then hardly pays anything again , feeling lucky today tho so might give it another shot ha ha ha

 

[interlog]

I too have noticed today the number of spins in between bonus rounds has gone for the worse. First session £14.03 (race money from Videoslots) lasted just the 371 spins at £0.09 with just the 1 bonus round. Total RTP was 58.2%

Second session - £25 at £0.09 a spin lasted a more reasonable 1,647 spins with a bonus round every 329 spins. Thankfully one of them paid 186x bet and that was the reason the slot kept me going for all of these spins during this session. Total RTP was 83.1%

 

[JackMack]

I had a nice 3000+ wild line last week. So I've not pushed my luck too much since
Although the few times I have played it this week, I'm getting the bonus rounds often enough, and quite a lot of 4 scatter triggers, and i'm also getting plenty wilds in the bonus rounds.

BUT, they're either falling where there's already a wild sticking or they're just not lining up to make a wild line.

like this i got at slotty a few hours ago, 9 wilds but no line. Not that I'm complaining about a 897x win, lol

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So I finally got a little water on the desert that has been DOA yesterday and today but just like you I got lots of wilds but still can't hit that elusive 5 wilds even with a good few spare spins.
Yesterday afternoon after going Months of not hitting a decent bonus round I got 4 wilds on a winline 3 times and ended up $200 ahead on the session.
Today I again got 5 extra spins and 4 wilds on a line but could only hit 10,J, Q,K 5 oaks and no 5 wild line.
So I have hit 1000 time bet twice in the last two days after not hitting that forever but still can't hit that big payout with 5 wilds.

I guess my RTP if and when I get my audit willa t least look much more reasonable but I am still well short of 95% rTP even hitting those wins int he alst two days which just shows how incredibly cold it has been for me previously.
After today's win it turned to ice and much like another poster stated I have generally been going hundreds of spins before hitting the bonus.
My last fifteen hundred or so spins I hit the bonus twice each time paying x1 bet LOL.
It wasn't so painful though after at least recently getting some hits and some fun which is really what it's all about.

 

[brianmon]

but I am still well short of 95% rTP even hitting those wins int he alst two days which just shows how incredibly cold it has been for me previously.

Sorry mate, but there's no guarantee that you'll reach the RTP% (based on all your game play), since that's the figure it, theoretically, pays back to ALL customers, not to EACH individual customer.

Some may reach 95%, some may reach 150% or more, but there are still some players who may only ever reach, say, 75%

 

[brianmon]

Finally they lined up this week, last night at Casumo.
Although it was on the very last spin of the 5 extra. pity they couldn't have all been one line lower though

 

[interlog]

Deposited £300 yesterday early in the morning. All spins at £0.45. The session lasted some 16 hours. A total of 8,030 spins and 57 bonus rounds. Still had £41.18 remaining when I had enough of it.

Total session RTP was 92.8% with the balance peaking at £326.

Never had such a good session (other than the mega big wins I had that resulted in withdrawals). So despite not making a withdrawal this time, I don't mind these kind of sessions because you get at least some decent play time from it.

 

[asadzareef89]

awesome night on doa yesterday

second wildline on doa at thrills, 7th and 8th wildline coming within 30 mins of each other, cant get better than that

 

[interlog]

Nice one... now walk away because you most probably had your fair share of them..... play on and you could well risk putting everything you won back in without result!